OMORI- Hero Crying Over the Piano/Backyard Secret

[@Ambivalence18]

Thank you all for 1,000 views! I never thought a video on my small channel could get that many. Thanks to everyone who commented as well. It’s nice have people to discuss Omori with in the comments.

[@Ambivalence18]

@Aka animations oh thanks bro. I’ll probably be uploading more Omori clips soon

[@wengonnwong429]

The fact that Hero heard music makes me believe she was there with sunny for a brief moment since sunny was clearly standing away from the piano to play it

[@Ambivalence18]

I agree! Mari’s spirit is definitely watching over them.

[@a.k8185]

Question is, why did Mari decide to pop up only when Sunny started to go outside? It could be easily tied together with Sunny just starting to recover the truth. In terms of Hero, who was in a crisis thanks to... Mari, he pretty much got only a auditory hallucination to go off of. It seems odd for Mari to dissappear only when Hero waltzes in.

[@Ambivalence18]

@@a.k8185 Spirits often try to be subtle when appearing to others. Appearing to multiple people at once could cause too many issues and sorts breaks the magic. I have a feeling if Hero needs help forgiving Sunny in the future spirit Mari may pay him a visit

[@a.k8185]

@@Ambivalence18 I guess. - - - - - - So... i will mention something interesting here: Spirit Mari doesn't appear at all in the hikikomori route. That's it, not adding anything else to elaborate on it.

[@Ambivalence18]

@@a.k8185 I’ve never played that route but that’s very interesting. Makes sense though.

[@heliodorable4612]

hero is such an underrated character... i've even seen people call him boring. his grief and pain over thinking for 4 years that he just let the person he loved most feel like she had no other options than to end her own life is arguably the second most tragic aspect of the entire game

[@Ambivalence18]

One interesting thing I thought about was Hero’s reaction to the truth… everyone says he’d take the longest to forgive Sunny and Basil but I wonder if he’d feel a weird sort of relief? Like there was nothing he could’ve done to prevent her death and it wasn’t his fault at all. And then maybe afterward he’s angry at himself for feeling that way.

[@heliodorable4612]

@@Ambivalence18 i definitely imagine him feeling a lot of grief over the years of his life he lost due to his depression, but it's so hard to say whether or not he'd be able to forgive sunny and basil. that's part of why i find him so fascinating. it's a fundamental part of his nature to be the big brother that makes sure everyone's okay, but how could he comfort the people who killed his love and let him think it could have been his fault for years? even though they really need the support, as they are obviously unwell. also, i feel, like you said, maybe he'd be relieved at first that she wasn't suicidal, but then experience a whole new bout of grief over the revelation that she DID want to live and her life was taken against her will. for that reason he'd need the time. like i said, what an amazingly complex character 💔 hero's reaction to the truth is by far the one i'd be the most interested in knowing

[@Ambivalence18]

@@heliodorable4612 for sure. I’m also curious about what Sunnys friends initial reactions were to finding out Mari died all those years ago. I kinda hope there’s a prequel or sequel or something.

[@kittykenma7192]

The exploration of grief is what really hits home for me in this game. Aubrey’s is very sad to watch because Mari was like a sister to her but Hero’s is so palpable it hurts. On the day he comes back and you try to go to the cemetery he can’t bring himself to go, and then this scene is genuinely heartbreaking.

[@heliodorable4612]

@@kittykenma7192 so true, each one of the main 5 deals with their grief in very different and believable ways... their individuality draws you to them because you want to know what was running through their mind at any given time. things like this are why i believe the characters are the best part of the game.

[@Egg7O]

mari: maybe i pushed you too hard sunny: maybe i pushed you too hard

[@shimmyshimmy.]

HHAHAHSGSHQ

[@PR1CK3DBY0U]

💀

[@Nitram7482]

Mari: Yes sunny, in kinda sure you did.

[@lunoct]

mari behind sunny in the bathroom mirror doesn't really scare me, it's very melancholic to me. it really feels like mari is watching over sunny. i strongly think ghost mari is real and not just hallucinations tbh

[@BecketTheHymnist]

I also subscribe to a supernatural happenings theory. Basil and Sunny being able to see each other's "somethings" is some really good evidence too. I also think Mari is trying to help Sunny, there's no way she wants to see him live the life he's currently trapped in.

[@kyleco9149]

This the hallucination in the mirror where you see Mari behind sunny just standing behind him, it didn't even feel unsettling but just sad, that she'll always watch over him even in spirit.

[@PadamiPlays]

I believe that ??? In the phobia battles is indeed Mari. As it is quite confirmed in the deep well part.)(2 days left)

[@asbebers001]

But it is rather scary, because she was never THAT much taller. You get what that means?

[@Chaki21]

​@@asbebers001she's actually disproportionate if you look her torso and arms

[@The0LDies]

My older sister has been playing omori for a while and is a bit before this point and currently thinks Mari pushed sunny down the stairs and these are some flashes of memories with extreme denial or something, if she hears “Maybe I pushed you too hard” she’s gonna be dead set on that theory and her reaction after finding out the roles are revered is gonna be hysterical

[@Ambivalence18]

So she thinks Mari pushed Sunny? How does she think Mari died then???

[@The0LDies]

@@Ambivalence18 she thinks mari killed herself out of guilt

[@Ambivalence18]

@@The0LDies ah I see. That would be an interesting story ngl given how protective Mari was

[@Carboy45]

My little sister thinks Basil possibly killed Mari atm since he keeps saying sorry she also had other theories too as she played the game she's just about to enter black space.

[@Eris.s]

@@Carboy45 did they go through blackspace already?

[@TheManDude]

4:09 “Bro, get out of the bathroom already, your hair looks good enough.”

[@LucyPennies]

Sunny: it's behind me isn't it

[@autumn_sunday]

"But just look at the front! I can't go around with a Vegeta-looking hairline!"

[@zo0roo]

everytime I think I get over how sad this game truly is there's always moments like this that remind me How one accident lead to years of tragedy, affecting so many lives. I feel like a lot of people overlook Kel and Hero's grief - especially Kel's. But Hero was obviously madly in love with her, and having that being taking away in what seemed to be a suicide.. blaming himself for years, not even being able to visit her grave. It's horrible. I could write a novel on this guy and it still wouldn't be enough. And now I'm sad all over again

[@Ambivalence18]

You know what’s interesting is toward the end of the game where Sunny, Kel, Hero and Aubrey are getting ready to go to sleep at Basil’s house, Hero mentions that he really doesn’t have time to make friends anymore and Kel Aubrey Sunny and Basil are really the only friends he has left. Meaning that Mari was probably his only childhood friend that was his age, the girl next door he grew up with and probably planned to spend his entire life with was taken from him due to one accident. I really hope Hero can meet new people and find someone who loves him.

[@zo0roo]

@@Ambivalence18 Yea that too. I'm pretty sure he didn't want to move on and start meeting new people - Kel kinda said it at the grave with Sunny, that he's "a bit more closed off now". Though with how charismatic he is I don't think Mari was his only childhood friend his age, but the only one he really got close to. In a way he's a lot like Sunny, both living with the guilt of the accident and becoming extremley depressed and isolating themselves because of it. But with the way he's still affected by her death I don't think he'll every truly get over it :(

[@Ambivalence18]

@@zo0roo probably not. I’m not sure how knowing the truth will effect him either. I don’t think he’ll be able to forgive Sunny but I think he’ll at least be able to move on knowing there’s nothing he could do

[@BecketTheHymnist]

@@Ambivalence18 In my head canon Hero is the FIRST to forgive Sunny based off the fact that he knows exactly how cataclysmic the guilt that Sunny has been carrying is. Also, he starts down a path at school to become a cutting edge psychiatrist. That's just how I see it though.

[@Ambivalence18]

@@BecketTheHymnist I think that’s nice

[@WorstAbaYT]

I swear people call Hero boring and confused about him not showing emotions but just imagine the grief he has to silently go through when the one he loved the most commited suicide in his eyes and he had no option but to stay strong for his brother and their future, he's the strongest of the entire cast

[@bumbabees]

i swear the second a character (or actual person, honestly) isnt super enthusiastic about their emotions theyre labelled boring and said to have no personality lol. i think they forget that this is how actual people act. were not cartoon characters.

[@Xode_25]

where and when does that scene happen where kel tells you about hero yelling at him after mari died

[@conors4312]

This is why I love Mari as a character, she seems genuinely sorry for everything that happened and just wants everyone to be able to move on together. This moment and the one following it in the bathroom is why I like it when people lean into the ghost Mari stuff, I genuinely think she was there and in headspace trying to help Sunny break the cycle

[@Ambivalence18]

I agree and Merry Christmas

[@EzBound]

2:41 This dialogue is so sad, because Sunny's childhood ended abruptly, and so, he never had the time to take care of his toys and still have them or sell them like most of us do when growing up. Really shows how differently Sunny grew up compared to everyone else. I just wanna give him an hug sometimes, man. He didnt deserve this!

[@Ambivalence18]

That’s a good observation. It kinda reminds of when you see crowds of abandoned cars with their doors still open in apocalypse movies, or houses abandoned suddenly by war or natural disaster still having food on the table.

[@ST4RFOUND]

This game still continues to rip my heart out open 😭

[@Ambivalence18]

Yea it’s pretty devastating at times… great story tho

[@ElectricOrange]

ANOTHER SECRET??? DANG it’s honestly quite cool to see people still finding new stuff tho to today

[@Ambivalence18]

Finding new stuff is so fun in this game. I might try to log stuff that people know about but isn't captured on youtube.

[@coffee-ouji]

I literally felt distressed all the way through the video until Sunny came back to the room Being in the dark really takes a toll on me

[@Ambivalence18]

Oh really? Personally I always liked the dark. Even in the daytime I keep the lights off and just have natural light

[@imthecoolestguyalive]

I knew abour the Hero bit, but... The backyard part... What the Hell, man. That is so creepy and so sad at the same time. The fact that Sunny reacts the same way to both of these just. Breaks my heart.

[@strawberryknives]

i cant handle this pain any longer homeboy

[@Ambivalence18]

U good brah

[@strawberryknives]

@@Ambivalence18 nah man omori kinda fucked w/ me dude /hj

[@Ambivalence18]

@@strawberryknives it has that effect on people. It sticks in your mind for weeks after

[@strawberryknives]

@@Ambivalence18 its been a year help 🔥🔥🔥

[@yaser5720]

@@Ambivalence18 its been months its been months its been months its been months its been months its been months its been months its been months its been months its been months its been months its been months its been months its been months its been months its been months its been months its been months its been months its been months its been months its been months its been months its been months its been months

[@waka727]

mari’s ghost seems to become less distorted the more sunny accepts what happened. the reverse of this is also seen in the hikikomori route

[@Ambivalence18]

Playing the hikkomori route right now. Thanks for pointing this out!

[@kittykenma7192]

I just finished playing this game for the first time and when I tell you this ripped my heart out. To see a character who is the rock of the group, the one who protects and uplifts everyone else completely break down was gut wrenching. Hero’s grief is so palpable, he really loved Mari so much and to think for 4 years he constantly wondered why she would take her own life. My heart :((

[@BecketTheHymnist]

I had NO idea you could actually go outside at this point in the game.

[@Ambivalence18]

It’s actually the first time you can enter the backyard

[@marissfisch]

Remind me to play this game in the summer and I just might

[@Ambivalence18]

Don't worry queen i will. Trust me it's worth it

[@chickennooget5812]

Play n o w

[@axelbutnotaxel]

its summer now no excuses

[@chickennooget5812]

Summertime babes

[@kofabillion]

Its summer!

[@Brando550]

i've watched plenty of different videos of this scene, but none of them ever had shown Hero to be crying. I just thought he had managed to keep himself collected and went to bed after Sunny does. This just makes it even more tragic T_T. And the game won't even let you try to console him O_o........

[@headfirst1593]

hero crying in secret personally broke me the first time in this game.

[@greenteafn]

every time i make someone play this game and they get to this scene, i try so hard to subtly tell them to go back, but it never works 😢

[@Ambivalence18]

A lotta people just wanna rush through the story. They don’t appreciate the subtle stuff

[@a_music_nerd]

aw man i had no idea you could go in the backyard then! i’m still learning new stuff about this game lmao

[@kyubeyz_7062]

I didn’t know this existed until I saw Jaiden Animation’s playthrough of the game. I hadn’t seen any footage of it anywhere until then

[@Ambivalence18]

Jaiden is cool I’m glad she played it

[@EMan-xj5cz]

Because of KZbin compression whenever sunny walks in on Mari and the camera pans up and down it looks like she’s playing the piano as fast as she possibly can

[@Ambivalence18]

Yes I think that’s funny lol

[@THEMIMIK]

If this is Mari’s Spirit (which im posative is) I’m not sure why when Hero entered the room, she suddenly dissapeared as if she didnt want anyone else to have some sort of consolation by her “existing” back into the real world and being able to talk with her, especially by someone she loved just as much as Sunny I wonder if she wanted to keep a low profile. Knowing Sunny, he probably would’ve thought Mari’s Spirit was an illusion, and as soon as Hero would enter in it would make it clear that she was real. By making herself seem like a dream but also real, it helps Sunny and the rest move on instead of clinging to her spirit trying to bring her back That or ghosts just simply cannot interact with alive people when there are more than 1 person in a room

[@Ambivalence18]

Being seen by multiple people kinda breaks the magic of ghosts 🙈 Hero heard the music. Mari is real.

[@Ambivalence18]

Thank you for commenting on my video

[@tmes69]

The first time i went to the mirror i almost got a heart attack

[@urregularanimegurl3884]

"Maybe i pushed you too hard" from mari shouldve been from omori

[@urregularanimegurl3884]

/sunny

[@L3ORAA]

off topic but this was uploaded on my birthday funny bc i had an omori party let alone all of that, i never knew about this secret

[@Ambivalence18]

Happy birthday!

[@L3ORAA]

@@Ambivalence18 thank u!

[@jeremytundo7144]

Happy belated birthday. I'm curious to know what an Omori party is like? :D

[@jeremytundo7144]

Damn this game really messed me up haha :p Thank u for this video. U help me fill that void inside me now

[@suwoo5118]

“maybe i pushed you too hard.” nah, but he certainty did

[@Ambivalence18]

BAHAHAHAHA

[@GaMeNu]

I love the detail of how the song at first ends kinda open and uncertain (first title music) and as the game progress it ends more closed, until the final duet, as if SUNNY is remembering the song again (or alternatively as if SUNNY is resolving the story)

[@TheSkyOwl]

Oh thats a genius theory

[@SpaceKitten-ee4pc]

NOOOOOO HEROOOO 😭😭😭😭

[@Aural4444]

OMG!!! Thank you very much, I didn't know about this (T_T)

[@tabbynoodles3685]

*pounds fists on the ground in pain *

[@thisisanarg..]

*I HATE THE FLOOR*

[@togati9258]

i remember discovering this on my own and was really sad

[@Mothlord03]

I know it's always the case, but god every scene with that piano song is heartbreaking. Even when i started the game with no context the main menu made me sad as hell

[@JustAfruit]

One day left Lets go to the hospital! OHHH LORD THAT STRANGE MAN KILLED THE KIDS SOMEONE SOP THE MAAAN

[@Coalgate_frsh]

Of course, Mari was not literally there. I assume that its just an auditory hallucination caused by a trigger that they both share in the enviroment. It might sound a bit weird; everyone handles trauma differently, but I suppose that they share the same "paranoia" considering that they both loved Mari to hell and back. Even if Sunny was responsible for the death and Hero dealt with it as a suicide

[@Ambivalence18]

I think I prefer to believe she’s watching over them tbh.

[@Coalgate_frsh]

@@Ambivalence18 thats one way to look at it, of course. However, because of Omori's more realistic and mature tone; she really is never coming back but they can hold on to her memory.

[@Ambivalence18]

@@Coalgate_frsh I guess so. I still like to think it’s at least a little supernatural

[@jthecryptid]

​@@Coalgate_frshthen why include that line about Hero hearing the piano? Is Hero hallucinating too? This game alludes to the supernatural quite a bit, its just subtle so that it doesn't bog down the plog or alienate people that don't want ghosts in their "realistic" psychological horror game

[@Carboy45]

Wow didn't know u could go in the backyard since u couldn't before at night

[@Dewaxel]

That Mari's "Maybe I pushed you too hard." always gets me

[@MERTOALIYORI]

Im so mad I didnt saw the backyard thing man :((((

[@amoura39]

LOL THAT BATHROOM JUMPSCARE ALWAYS GETS ME

[@Ambivalence18]

It’s very interesting to me how Sunny sees Mari as menacing in his nightmares and hallucinations

[@_.-Sunny-._]

Ahhh such a unforgettable moment

[@NaNaFan707]

PLEASE, STOP.

[@Ambivalence18]

What’s wrong?

[@NaNaFan707]

@@Ambivalence18 I am talking about how sad it is

[@Ambivalence18]

@@NaNaFan707 oh yea this part is quite sad. you can tell Hero is still in a lot of pain and guilt. Him hearing the music implies Mari's spirit was actually speaking to Sunny and it wasn't just his imagination.

[@NaNaFan707]

@@Ambivalence18 Btw, thanks for making this video! I have never seen this cutscene before :)

[@Ambivalence18]

@@NaNaFan707 oh no problem! I think 99.9% of people miss the secret in the backyard bc there’s no reason to go down there and it wouldn’t even allow you to at this point in the game. I only found it bc I’m a completionist freak who checks every nook and cranny in a video game location

[@cond3mned_24]

4:10 Jesus christ like a god damn hachishakusama.

[@cina2218]

oh i didnt know this was a secret! i found tons of secrets because i love clicking things

[@thatfrenchfried]

I don't hear it? Anyone else?

[@rockyblocky_guy1244]

what kind of telepathy going on here???

[@someone7601]

at what part in headspace did you wake up and get this? cause ive been trying to get it i just dont know what part i have to wake up or if its something you wake up to no matter what?

[@Ambivalence18]

After completing Black Space.

[@someone7601]

@@Ambivalence18 alright ty!

[@treyflorek8592]

😭😭😭😭

[@TheColor-Red]

ok

[@paladumb7272]

is this real?

[@Ambivalence18]

Yea it is. Trust me I’m not smart enough to mod

[@mushroomhollow5408]

i can also vouch, i ran into this my first time playing /srs

[@Oliver62626]

I also did this on my first playthrough, it's real

[@flower_chain7098]

How do you get this secret?

[@lunamercury_3113]

Wait is this backyard part a mod or can u actually go back there 😨

[@Ambivalence18]

You can actually go back there. It’s the first time you can go back there in the game but most people miss it unfortunately.