OMORI - Hikikomori Route (Differences I noticed)

[@savegalkissy]

Sunny just straight up doesn't eat for three days huh

[@lostkey7301]

Bruh.

[@thevioletskull8158]

This and the bad ending are the most emotionally hurtful imo

[@savegalkissy]

@@thevioletskull8158 this lack of eating definitely plays into his mental state too, and it makes me sad to think that all the extra adventures he has in head space could be from it, some symptoms I looked up: faintness dizziness blood pressure drop slowing heart rate weakness This could be why he fainted in the bathtub, and maybe numerous other things that happened during the days and nights.

[@Bia_OkamotoS2]

@@savegalkissy could it be that he developed some kind of schizoprhenia? I mean, nothing of that dream world was real after all

[@savegalkissy]

@@Bia_OkamotoS2 yeah, I’ve seen people suggest Sunny has schizophrenia or another dissociative disorder. If you feel it’s a positive representation, than sure

[@aveedizzy]

Thx now I dont have to shut the door on Kel and feel bad

[@ITR]

Technically you just never open it, so Kel is none the wiser.

[@sorrychangedmyusername3594]

@@ITR Kel would be standing there for hours, he's persistent at knocking the damn door.

[@garlicbreath4690]

Says the on one with Aubrey as your pfp

[@doorman2374]

@@garlicbreath4690 Bruh.

[@ellec7188]

Did it for Perfectheart, although I overwrote the save file to prevent the ending from playing out

[@masterlasheron]

After finishing the game in the best ending, looking at this entire route is really depressing, it's a better RPG experience, the dream world evolves, the characters have more depth and there are a lot more quests and areas to explore, but this is all fake, the real Sunny accomplished nothing, he won't see his real friends ever again and everyone's life will remain broken forever. What a great game.

[@SnancyNegative]

I like it. It's a choice you have to make. You can either delve further into the dream, and get that much more out of the RPG aspect and the headspace characters, or you can go work on trying to mend a broken friendship and get much more out of the ACTUAL characters of the game. And you can't have it both ways, because they are antithetical in their nature. You either keep living the escapist fantasy, or stop running and try to make your last three days in town count.

[@evil_yami]

You take the OMORI pill: the story ends. You wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the SUNNY pill: you stay in wonderland... and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.

[@craftofdoom5742]

Well said brother

[@theethereal188]

@@evil_yami It's weird how those two sound like they should be reversed, especially with Sunny's 'wonderland-'esque dreams. Though the line of “believe whatever you want to believe” certainly goes against that.

[@Atiklyar]

The layers to this game are the best part for me, and I love all the contrast between Headspace and the Real World. My favorite highlight is how Mari's picnic's are placed. You get through challenging fights, and can feel confident that big sis Mari is right around the corner to patch you up. She's there to offer you a chance to breath, heal yourself, and get some cute little interactions. But the real world has no Mari picnics. There's no free healing after hard fights. There's no cute little breathers with your friends (barring a few scenes in the final day). There is no big sister to look after you. Just empty picnic baskets and a lonely piano. The game knows exactly how to punch you in the guy, and I adore every second of it.

[@beesknees5621]

Hero: *breathes* The gators: 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@ketimportatopo3471]

I imagine dunkey saying "amazing, truly a work of art it's a masterpiece"

[@Beeetlejjug]

Me when he's literally doing nothing

[@bigmeaty9000]

and they're not wrong

[@patri8929]

yeah same

[@WoozyEmoji]

Hero is best boy

[@Fionacle]

The “Welcome to white space. You’ve been living here as long as you can remember” hurts a little more every time you see it

[@randompromises1038]

it gets to me that just right after mari's fall he was so disoriented and unable to process what happened that it implies he started to slip into white space before basil came to help him. like,,, it was just that fast and easy for him to do that. so maybe white space had existed for longer??

[@nobody-mh6un]

@@randompromises1038 I think the white space + the dream world have already existed since Sunny was a kid. If I remember correctly, in the Lost Library, one book mentioned that Sunny always was in his own world with his own adventures (and that was before The Incident™, back when everyone was happy). White space doesn't seem much fun to be in, though...but since the game said "as long as you can remember," I guess it probably existed long before Mari's death the boy just likes to lucid dream i guess lmao

[@randompromises1038]

@@nobody-mh6un ooo that's a really good theory i like that!

[@kri4412]

@@nobody-mh6un the incident T M

[@kri4412]

We got a goddamn trademark what else a copyright and terms of service?

[@imbroke.5988]

I like how the Dream world is his way to escape the things he did. He becomes really obsessive with the Dream world, instead of a way coping, this becomes a way to destroy him, ending up making him feel worse and worse. Not even facing his own problems. I love how realistic this is.

[@christa4172]

The most impactful thing is that we see how happy they were, and how Aubrey was before all the shit. It’s just... god I love this game

[@flaviadinicolo546]

@@christa4172 a

[@lunk2569]

Ngl i can't enjoy this route only because it's absolutely tragic to think of a world where Aubrey, Hero, and Kel don't work through their problems. This is certainly the better RPG experience but it feels so hollow (and rightfully so) compared to the main route that I just can't see myself being happy with the expanded dream world.

[@arachnidsVengeance]

I might sound like a depressed teen right now but this happened to me, I have a very detailed imaginary world and the more you think about the more you forget about people, the more you don't want to talk with people. That almost led me to depression.

[@adinaa1589]

I also cope with things with my own imaginary world, maybe that's why i'm attached to this game and to the characters :'D I love them so much

[@Edzter]

why does everybody call the first fear 'fear of the dark' it's not the dark, that's a staircase, because omori is now afraid of heights as pushing his sister down a flight of stairs killed her, it's why in the prologue it said 'you are afraid of heights' and the first fear boss happened on an all-too-long staircase.

[@Pikrioling]

Actually the fear of heights along with others are from a specific episode we discover in the Sunny route

[@Sleeplovesrpgm]

Sorry I called it that cause it looks like the something that is called "fear of the dark", so I mixed it up. I actually wasn't sure what to label the timestamp. The game file for this enemy is called "Something in the dark" actually, so I think I'll just label it that instead for the timestamp along that it's fear of heights and my opinion also the dark. (Like a combination?) Thanks!

[@shincodedd220]

the files for the first fear are called "fear of darkness"

[@Walrus-yq6uh]

It's because the boss name is 'SOMETHING IN THE DARK' and it's not abundantly clear why SUNNY would be afraid of that particular staircase until the very end of the game.

[@potatt3782]

You know how there's an effect on the screen when you're near something like a spider web or ladder in the dream world? I like how for the fear of heights it shows a circle of black hands around you.

[@alexkatakuna2615]

31:17 it's ironic how dream basil tells you this while real basil is probably killing himself at that very moment

[@supremeoverlord0]

YEP. THAT'S WHY I'M HURTING AS MUCH AS I AM RIGHT NOW. GOD. SORRY FOR CAPS, IT'S JUST THAT I'M FINALLY GETTING AROUND TO THE HIKIKIMORI ROUTE, AND I CAN FEEL MYSELF DEGRADING. OW.

[@joshualeahy2162]

@@supremeoverlord0 YOWCH.

[@welcometovibespace5596]

Yeah, it’s interesting how after shadow basil tells sunny how he couldn’t be there for him and abandoned him to die he makes dream basil to remind him how great of a friend he is, kinda like when he discovers that Aubrey became more aggressive in the real word he makes her act more flirty in the dream word

[@idioticreborn]

damm

[@exxelsetijadi5348]

@@welcometovibespace5596 seeing his old friend being more aggressive prompts him to make her behave flirty in his dreamland excuse me _w h a t_ ?

[@TheAbsoluteMost4972]

Capt. Spaceboy deserves better. I feel bad he feels horrible that she dumped him when she is a huge jerk majority of the time.

[@joaopeixoto6224]

I think spaceboi represents how Hero leaded with the ****

[@bigbochi3944]

@@joaopeixoto6224 with the what?

[@thevioletskull8158]

Agreed,I don’t get what spaceboy sees in her

[@hauwley]

@@thevioletskull8158 the only good thing with her is her battle theme music.

[@idontknowwhatimdoing6492]

​@@bigbochi3944Theres a Dialogue if you go to the Graveyard you need Kel and only kel to follow you and go to Mari's grave to get the dialogue Edit: In the real life world

[@PWNDON]

the hangman becoming mari scared the shit out of me

[@ashtar3876]

Yup, its probably sunny remembering mari's death, with the eye being her right eye which he saw while basil was hanging her, with him erasing it to pretend he didn't kill her and didn't fake her suicide

[@Natsukiii_i]

Timestamp?

[@ABCsnoopy]

_Leaving a comment here for time stamp don’t mind me_

[@wizardlydrake42]

@@Natsukiii_i 1:05:37 sorry that I’m late on this

[@Gingerbreadley]

Every moment of this game is dripping with meaning. When sorting the items while moving he throws the orange juice away. You can tell he remember Kel liked them and was saving it for him but now he’s given up or forgotten.

[@pineappleplaguedoc]

"dripping" mari wit the drip

[@SonicTDStruggles]

O u c h.

[@vibecat1556]

I would have taken the old orange joe, went over to kel's place and gave it to him and said "sorry for... you know not opening the door for four years and stuff but here I have some orange joe for you"

[@yani-yan3489]

wait I didn't see it, what part is it?

[@adriasagues7265]

But isn't that the decision of the player?

[@LePLusCoolDesCools]

So he ran away from reality to escape into his own, perfect world, and stopped himself from feeling any emotions. This game is so depressing. It makes me feel so bad yet I love it.

[@Fionacle]

It’s the best bad 😭

[@dinko4711]

As this game taught. You can't feel better in escapism. The only way you are free is dying.

[@LePLusCoolDesCools]

@@dinko4711 Are you okay ? ._.

[@aHeroWith1000Names]

@@dinko4711 Yet Sunny managed to face the truth and save Basil in the good ending. And he lived. And this is the only way he can start living again, for he was merely existing when escaping to Headspace. He managed to get on the path of forgiving himself and, despite remembering his terrible act, forging a way of becoming... alive!

[@pyschopath_gaming420]

omg ed sheeran pfp 😱

[@BroudbrunMusicMerge]

God, all the stuff about the dreamworld that felt so cute and warm and inviting feels so... hollow and sad, knowing the full context

[@randompromises1038]

it almost feels like there's no point to how much content there is in headspace, except that's kind of intentional. it's meant to be a distraction for sunny, so all of it is kinda meaningless when he lets go of reality and decides to stay in his happy dreamworld forever

[@kikiduck6253]

FR

[@niayue]

yeah it really hurts knowing that something so warm and inviting holds such a dark story,,,

[@alecojaleco]

Yes...

[@vladimirgolosin4699]

And then there is the stump - i thought it was weird that kids come out from it, but didn't think too much about it. Seeing that stump after realizing what happened is heartbreaking. It was stuck into Sunny's thoughts but Omori made it look pretty to hide the truth.

[@theethereal188]

26:55 This moment has always remained super vivid to me and at first, I didn't really get it - but I think I understand now. It's symbolic of how SUNNY has chosen to escape his fears, his paranoia, depression and loneliness not through confronting the truth, but by escaping into another reality. Existing as SUNNY has become too painful, too tumultuous and too incomprehensible without anyone by his side, and so, he accepts the help of his shattered will, OMORI, as SUNNY vanishes, now at peace with OMORI at the reins. Heck, the guy even glances up at the black lightbulb, symbolic of the repression of ideas. When OMORI is visible in the mirror afterward in the morning, it's not saying that SUNNY is dead, or that he no longer exists. It's that SUNNY has turned his back on the real world for good, that reality is nothing but an unending nightmare, a nightmare that can only be weathered by OMORI. His suffering, hence, is not ended, it is merely ignored in favour of an escape. SUNNY never has to die in this route. But with no one who understands him, the utter despair that has consumed his every waking moment, his depression leaving an empty void bereft of feelings and the conviction that reality is no longer worth the agony... He survives, but never truly lives.

[@makmakg242]

How would you imagine an OMORI sequel that takes place after the Hikikomori route?

[@theethereal188]

@@makmakg242 if there actually was an OMORI sequel taking place after the Hikki. route, it would probably be the same adventure in the dream world again with differences only really showing up in the real world. SUNNY would likely end up killing himself sooner or later out of guilt, shame and fear of the truth, so I don’t imagine it’d be that good.

[@hazekaze]

@@makmakg242 Maybe it will be a full Yume Nikki adventure. Though it will remain OMORI rpg with the gang style, we might dig deep in BLACK SPACE even further and at some point, BLACK SPACE will take over HEAD SPACE as OMORI fear, guilt, and depression keeps rotting him inside enough that even dreams can’t be his savior. Leading to OMORI decision to end himself like Yume Nikki ending.

[@derpfluidvariant0916]

@@makmakg242 I feel like following what happened after the good ending would work better. While i am envious of Omocat's creativity, there wasn't much unexplored territory on the Headspace side, and exploring the results of the truth IRL would be easier to code, and would work with the message of the game better.

[@letsreadtextbook1687]

@@makmakg242 Frankly, I think it would just be a loop of the previous adventure. The voicein deep well said that omori always goes through these adventures of finding Basil and the yellow cat room implies that it always resets after finding dream Basil. So to put it simply, it will be mind-numbing loop of the same thing over and over again, albeit with slight differences each time as implied in black space of Basil being lost through different means. It was fun for us, the players, to go through with it once but for Sunny, he has been repeating similar adventures for four years and will continue to do so in hikki route. It's as boring for normal people as it sounds and that's the point

[@salokin3087]

All the this extra content that many if not most players will skip out on is quite impressive

[@LierShadown]

i guess we cant just let Kel in the door waiting :(

[@Syphrilyn]

Bro I didnt know my morality is too good, but also I thought the game wouldn't let you say no to Kel. Guess I was wrong, time to find some secrets!

[@randompromises1038]

i feel it's partially because the player figures there'll be more to explore/more mystery unlocked if they explored the outside world tbh

[@weirdguy1495]

Meanwhile, this is my first route, so I'm definitely wondering what the other route entails.

[@midnightumbrmoon3644]

@@weirdguy1495 ooo I hope you enjoy it (if you haven’t watched/played it already by now). Keep away from the comments so you don’t get spoiled

[@pokemonique92]

Oh shit the end of neighbor's bedroom music loop is the final duet on a music box. Goes to show that even though Sunny is repressing his memory of the incident, it's still a precious song to him. At least, on a subconscious level.

[@lovelykitty42]

oh wow. i’m not sure about this but i think the title song is the duet but without sunny/omori’s violin. i haven’t heard it in a while though so i could be wrong

[@-e_rin-8555]

it’s part of final duet but on a music box instead of the piano and violin. the ost is named Playing Forever

[@ConvenientlyShapedUsername]

@@lovelykitty42 Yep it definitely is.

[@himegut]

Knowing kel helped omori get over his fear of drowning is absolutely adorable, kel is so cute and sweet-

[@ashtar3876]

Normally it's mari, which i think is a bit better tbh

[@klourdes6068]

I think hikikomori route was just a never ending cycle that happens to Omori

[@tbhon]

It's kind of implied to be the case in the normal route as well, right? Every Basil we meet that dies in blackspace are the product of Sunny going through the same imagined plots in his head- Basil goes missing and he and his friends have to go on an adventure to save him. It also seems like Sunny never actually ends these plots but starts over, considering the sheer amount of Basils that never got saved and are residing in blackspace.

[@Lianzi_Spl]

@@tbhon Or, know, ded. Also, don't forget the messed up versions of your party in Blackspace.

[@eduardosilva3255]

but why the blackspace party members would be a thing?

[@ashtar3876]

@@eduardosilva3255 blackspace is kind of like a place where he puts all of the bad thoughts and things. Every time a party member dies, one of them goes in black space. Every time basil isn't saved, he goes in black space.

[@eduardosilva3255]

that sounds like a good theory but i like to think that those party members are more like some first twisted version of sunny's fake friends that he ditched for bad reasons

[@kidddddddddddddddddddddddddddd]

I accidentally did this route first! Went into the game blind 2 days after release and ended up being really disappointed at the anti-climatic ending and confused at the seemingly loose ends,,, found out I wasn't playing the main route after looking up the true story and endings. Not even mad that I played this route first, just sad I hadn't went for the true route immediately afterwards instead of looking it up. Felt like I might've been more emotional and surprised when I played a second time if I hadn't,,

[@w0zwald]

See I bet a lot of players that answered the door to Mari ended up getting this route because they were so scared to answer the door again lmao

[@WeGettinHype]

Tru

[@molo1848]

To be fair this one is better,at least it doesnt excuse a murder as 'uwu he didnt know any better anyways forgive him'

[@kidddddddddddddddddddddddddddd]

@@molo1848 I mean not really,, Sunny did know better. That's why he felt guilty -- cause he knew what he did was wrong and he couldn't forgive himself for an, admittedly severe, accident. He killed someone by accident and he -- alongside basil -- lived with that guilt. I wouldn't say the true route excused what Sunny did,, we don't even know if the gang even forgave him since it cuts off when he tells them all at the hospital. We just know it was an accident -- it's up to the player to decide whether it's worth forgiving.

[@RealValkor]

@@w0zwald I felt bad for not answering the door so I kept answering lmao

[@katsu_199x]

2:02:25 after playing the true neutral route and knowing where those sirens are headed... O U C H-

[@brimlin7960]

Right I was just thinking about that 😩

[@Clarkamadorian]

I think I know but I am not all too sure. I am pretty sure it’s cuz Basil commit suicide, but I don’t 100% know

[@wingedfeline5379]

@@Clarkamadorian yep

[@Clarkamadorian]

@@wingedfeline5379 ah shit dude...

[@utepi]

i personally feel like they did an accident with the car that killed sunny and his mother. Just a HeadCanon tho

[@melreinh5265]

Just finished the game with the Good ending. I really don't want to play the hikikomori route, or even restart the game because I want Sunny to be happy now... But watching the video... It's scary how much I relate to the "hikikomori route." As someone with depression, it really is more gratifying for me to sleep. In this world, no one is dead. Everyone is happy. It's magical and fantastical. Why would I ever want to leave... but this route STILL isn't all fun and games. When you wake up from your dreams, your only choice is to shut yourself off to the guilt and the negative thoughts, or succumb and break.

[@joyousconiferdesigns5038]

Sleep is the best way to escape reality. Dreams can feel so vivid and real at times. But, sleeping to much can be dangerous.

[@madman7544]

You're not the only one I'm scared if one day something happens and because of unsatisfied life of mine,it becomes impossible for me to keep my bonds with real life. Especially when there are so many ways of escaping from really these days.

[@xStrawberryHunterx]

Same here

[@conceitedboy4490]

bro fuckin same. I wanted to replay Omori again but the thought of Sunny's dream world being fake and accomplishing nothing to fix his problem and as well him coming to terms revealing the truth is suffice. to me Omori feels like the game to play once if you got the good ending.

[@niayue]

i'm sorry that you feel this way, i hope everything eases up for you in life.

[@sensiblegh0st86]

Omori (the character) gets a bad rap because of the true ending I think. He's just symbolic of someone's response to trauma. You have to face your trauma in the True Route, which makes it become violent and overly defensive because that's how it works in the real world, trauma is messy and your body's response is to try and protect you even if it's actually harming you. In the Hikikomori Route, Omori truly is saving Sunny, as without this fantasy world to escape to, Sunny would likely die. Omori protects Sunny, or tries to, even if he doesn't do it in the best ways. Sort of like allergic reactions.

[@yoshtotoct]

Finally, someone who doesn’t villainize Omori! Even if he’s not necessarily doing the right thing, Omori’s just doing his best to protect Sunny from the traumatic truth.

[@unamelable256]

In fact, no one wants to know the brutal and mercurial truth. After all, it is nothing but negative.

[@ianmeyermarietta4328]

Space Ex-Husband literally says, “All I have are memories and even they don’t do anything for me” doesn’t take a genius to figure out how that relates to Sunny

[@midgematic8659]

Yknow, thinking about how Space Ex-Husband and Sweetheart are the representation of a toxic relationship, it makes me think that maybe they’re also more than that? Maybe Sweetheart represents how Sunny feels towards his childhood, as something untouchable, perfect in every way, and he’s always reminded about it and how he can’t have it back. Space Ex-husband is like sunny constantly grieving about his childhood, getting angry that things can’t go back the way it used to be, suffering whenever he gets a split moment of relief only for it to fall out of his grip again and again. The other HEARTS (Mutant, perfect, and robo) are attempts to get his childhood back but there’s always something just not right about it, or in perfecthearts case, the original is just better than any recreation of it.

[@kreg857]

16:48 BASIL trying to drag OMORI up the stairs... Wait, huh?

[@vikas_room]

oh oH FUCK it's worse when he says he feels nice about it ohhhhhhhhhhh no

[@sir.santiago5922]

Hmmmmm

[@nocturnal3427]

WAIT I DON’T GET IT what is it alluding to??

[@vikas_room]

@@nocturnal3427 i'll assume you beat the game but just in case SPOILERS basil helped bring mari's corpse up the stairs when sunny initially pushed her

[@nocturnal3427]

@@vikas_room OH i didn’t know they actually dragged her up. ty!!

[@foomer_]

At 53:22 Mari says "Seems like somewhere you would only go if you wanted to be all alone", and you can only access Snowglobe Mountain in the Hikikomori route...

[@gracepotato1365]

Noooo I’m cryinsyusiw

[@althea7181]

WAIT A MINUTE-

[@indigowendigo8165]

I mean, that too, but this is basically where you fight Ex-Space Husband, who also wanted to be all alone. :p And... it kind of reminds me of fighting Red as Gold in Pokemon Gold/Silver or whatever, if there was some kind of dark meaning to it. ._. And if there is some weird canon meaning to it, I wouldn't know it. :?

[@AzuMazu_]

holy damn its basically a different game

[@welcometovibespace5596]

Something that caught my attention is that after shadow basil confronts him he makes dream basil to stay in the picnic with Mari as just a save point, I mean before that he didn’t stayed in the party to fight monsters but at least he didn’t needed to teleport like Mari to catch up with the group, the reason why he did that with mari was because he didn’t wanted to see Mari die again, so maybe he got a pretty bad ( and accurate ) feeling that basil killed him self that night for what shadow basil told him ( there is no hope for me left ) welp that’s dark

[@etoile7174]

Oh god

[@welcometovibespace5596]

@@etoile7174 :)

[@randompromises1038]

that was. painful to read, how could you.

[@soniamontiel846]

o h

[@Liamelz_3109]

not so sure why but have you guys noticed how when Hero gets scared in the Lost Library fights and probably some other areas, he goes monochrome like Omori unlike Kel and Aubrey who stay in the same blue color. just wierded out by this and how I haven't heard any talk about this

[@amrabawlz2hard]

i know, right? i never understood why that happened

[@Bia_OkamotoS2]

Yeah, I noticed that too! Teory time

[@dark8118]

Hero actually goes monochrome in real world when the spider is on his trophy before Kel removed it. My bet is dreamworld Hero is the only one who stays true to his real counterpart.

[@bubbles3630]

because hero is the only other person with a phobia, he and omosun go black and white. aubrey and kel don’t change because they have no phobias. (this is just speculation, i don’t know for sure either)

[@Bia_OkamotoS2]

@@bubbles3630 That makes so sense! Thanks for giving your opinion and make us understand!

[@BigBugBiggieBug]

Did you guys also notice how in this route, when Sunny strares into the bathroom mirror, Omori is the one who stares back? Edit: Stamps 20:47, 1:59:34 & 2:00:34

[@christa4172]

Wait...

[@christa4172]

DIDNT EVEN NOTICE IT

[@eieiejjr]

Yeah, it kinda freaked me out when I first saw it.

[@windego64]

I understand it as your not sunny anymore

[@ANDY-rg4uo]

nah man that's just Sunny after not eating for three days

[@ness6714]

Man, imagine going on this route first

[@ortherner]

yea

[@RazorsharpLT]

Some people did if you read the comments. Mostly has to do with being afraid to open the door after the Mari jumpscare.

[@Mieru13]

Watch NicoB's playthrough. He's going through this route first for his first playthrough which should be super interesting.

[@marta2631]

That's what i did! Only because it makes getting 100% achievements easier tho...First do all the dreamworld achievements on hikki route, than all realworld in the true route :^

[@niko-dg8cg]

@@marta2631 agreed

[@Fionacle]

It’s awesome seeing the dream world more fleshed out but it’s so sad thinking about why

[@somethingdumb3928]

spoiler size: l a r g e the reason is just that it’s a distraction that omori made for sunny to feel like his life meant something to anyone, in reality, despite headspace people being happier, he’s done absolutely nothing, which is why he goes to bed to return to headspace and feel meaningful

[@Fionacle]

@@somethingdumb3928 This game really knows how to give you a mental breakdown

[@somethingdumb3928]

@@Fionacle yeah

[@simonghoul3602]

not gonna lie, this is the first route I would had taken Like, after the first jumpscare I am already survival mode and being like "I don't wanna die, it's gonna happen again, it's a trick!"

[@tearay1073]

which is honestly interesting, given the fact that Sunny has to be courageous and take that first step to healing after his ordeal by "opening the door" to his old friends (Kel). like not at the point of relying and confiding in them, but just facing the present of what has happened to his friends since he locked himself inside

[@letsreadtextbook1687]

That's the genius of this game, isn't it? It made player *fears* opening the door, just like Sunny does.

[@charlesonjr3rdpikmin]

Luckily when mari knocked i muted the game so i didnt hear it. Props to me for being a little scaredy cat.

[@bensweetser7647]

@@charlesonjr3rdpikmin The game doesn’t actually use a loud noise when you open the door for Mari (thankfully). It’s just the sound of the door opening.

[@charlesonjr3rdpikmin]

@@bensweetser7647 I mean I was too scared after the black hands came from the stairs that I muted the game till I got back to Headspace

[@deltaConduit]

No one talks enough about the group hug scene in this route. The weight it carries while also being miserably hollow. While it is heartwarming to see Mari and Basil included, knowing the full context makes the whole image feel meaningless, ingenuine.

[@TotallyNotSnowman]

It mocks the Sunny Route's group hug. Like a punch in the gut.

[@paranormeow]

oh god definitely I just felt so cold, especially when basil talked about omori being there for him, ough

[@lilibetclark4777]

It looks like one of their photo album pictures, but they don't take a picture. They comment on not getting a picture of the memory, but that's the thing, isn't it? Its NOT a memory. Its a fabrication and nothing more.

[@burntcinnabun5232]

I love how there's no commentary, but you can see how they were jammin along when they inserted the batteries to the plastic fish

[@toasteroven7683]

I just realized that calling him "stranger" COULD be Omori trying to distance himself and sunny from the truth. Since Stranger is the one that keeps trying to get Sunny to remember, it should be the main threat to Omori's rule over black space? Calling it "stranger" is almost like saying "I don't know you"

[@unamelable256]

I remember that in true route if we go home, there we will see strangers NOT shadows. In the hikkiomori route they become shadows, suggesting that Omori doesn't know how to deal with this yet.

[@ShadowSkyX]

Remember basil showed a side of himself that day that sunny didn't recognize as the basil he knew. He acted so different, as though he was a stranger wearing basil's face and mimicking his voice.

[@mrcheese1328]

19:40 "The last one, THE BIG YELLOW CAT, was chosen to watch over the DREAMER's most precious room. He remains the DREAMER's favorite even to this day... watching diligently... waiting for something to happen."

[@Clarkamadorian]

Editing because my previous comment was cringe

[@meyo6423]

@@Clarkamadorian not the hotline miami pic ♡♡♡♡♡

[@paranormeow]

And nothing ever will

[@cattudoggu]

When Omori caught Basil as he fell from the black thing in the church, it caught me so off guard its so cute

[@sserafims]

does anyone know the time stamp?

[@squijji3261]

@@sserafims 10:28

[@samdal420]

The real endings left me in tears but the ending to the hikkikomori route felt really anticlimactic and left me feeling empty. Even though the hikkikomori route offers alot of more headspace content (and honestly the Sculpture gator guy is probably one of my favorite characters) I still like the reality route better since you meet your friends in reality and help them with their problems, and you also get some help with your own problems. The true good ending made me cry and it also helped me with facing my own problems I've been struggeling with. What an amazing game, I've been excited to see how this game would turn out ever since I saw the first trailer and honestly, the 6 years of waiting feels like it was worth it. Thank you for making this video!

[@jarosawksiazczyk3082]

That's exactly how you should feel, since that's what living with depression is: empty.

[@undeadprincess5726]

@@TestName-bo7rb that all could be true, but that would be rewarding you for basically being a shut in and not really experiencing the outside world and overcoming sunnys trauma, or trying at the very least. Maybe they had something in mind, but omocat thought it would be a better representation to end with an empty outcome.

[@subzu2733]

@@TestName-bo7rb i think the hiki route is something to play if you want more lore and content, but i think im my imo i thnk omocat really made this route feel realistic i mean think about it he's been doing this for four years a constant loop of the same dream even accomplishing all the things you did in the dream world it feels hollow because sunny never actually accomplished things in reality he's still the same person as he was before and its fucking heartbreaking now you could chalk this up as lazy writing but i think what omocat did with hikki mori route felt like i said realistic and relatable but yea thats how i feel

[@UP51L]

Makes sense not to feel exciting or satisfying. You didn’t deal with your demons, you ignored them. You had more time to yourself and explore where your dreams could take you, but the reality of isolation shouldn’t be a looming dread that no one’s there or psychological horrors. It’s just emptiness. No bogeymen in the closet or monsters under the bed, Sunny’s too old for that. He’s not facing any demons with the support old friends. Instead, He’s waiting on a miracle that the issue just fades away. So how do you tell a story of a person who wishes for more without? Make the audience feel like more could be done. Because a lot more could have been.

[@gracekelley2907]

Yeah, after watching the Reality route first... this rings incredibly hollow. Part of me wonders if I missed out by watching the good route and not the hikikimori one, but honestly, i think it makes it more poignant. While it currently leaves a bitter taste in my mouth, I can be happy knowing that in the best ending, Sunny got to leave and confront his issues in order to become a better person. But here... sure, the headspace stuff is left open ended because that's the purpose of it. It really makes me look back on the initial premise of having to choose between a real and a possibly fake world that looks better. Since we were given so little context as to the real game's plot, and we didn't see much of the real world, I was gunning for the ending where Omori stays in the happy world with his friends.... but then the game came out and I got more context to what was going on... Well, seeing this play out has made it incredibly unpalatable, especially since, in the real ending, while there's no guarantee of things 100% being better, at least Sunny has overcome his demons and can finally start to move forward, and at least he has Basil. Sure, they won't be able to meet in person for a while, but they can keep in touch via phones or writing, and they have a little bit of time to spend together before they both have to leave the hospital, I can't imagine them being released the day they both woke up, lol. Here... it's all lies, a fabrication to keep Sunny from ever really living. Sure, he's safe, but at what cost. Basil is dead, Kel, Aubrey and Hero lost their chance to see Sunny or Basil ever again and they're going to be even more traumatized by both losses. Even if Sunny is still alive, he's gone physically and mentally. And the worst thing is, he knows it's no way to live his life... but he can't find another way to be. I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if this game goes on to become one of the RPG greats, if it isn't already. Idk, i recently got around to finishing the game, and it's incredibly sincere and respectful to the topics it discusses, and it has a lot of heart on top of that. Maybe that's why this ending is so rough, because I've seen it be better, and I know it can be, and all it can take is something as simple as opening up a door. I agree about the waiting! I do feel like Omocat could have done a bit more to update her backers and show the game, but I also get that it involved striking a right balance between spoiling and keeping surprises hidden for the audience. Idk, its a tough situation all around and Still, it was worth the wait and I hope that Omocat doesn't get discouraged from game development, (though I'd understand if it did.) Idk my feelings about this game are very complex, but my overall feeling is that it was well worth the wait. Sorry for the long ramble, I just... I have a lot of thoughts about this game.

[@salokin3087]

So in the True Route, Sunny doesn't brush his teeth? Bro that's kinda nasty

[@이름-p3l4c]

you can still brush your teeth in the normal route, its just easier in the omori route since youre in the house for longer

[@devinsdead921]

I'm afraid to know how often he showers

[@diandraaliffa2116]

@@devinsdead921 i think the Omoriboy blog once stated that he doesn't like water or taking baths very often

[@sinkmagg0t]

@@diandraaliffa2116 stinky boy sunny

[@burntmother.]

that's one of the many side effects of depression, my friend. degrading the person for it is shitty so maybe dont do that irl --

[@supremeoverlord0]

So, just to distract myself from the pain of everything, I'd like to just put a highlight on the cute little bridal style catch-and-spin when Omori saves Dream Basil at 10:28-10:36. It would be sweet if some talented person made an animation of that part, or something. I feel horrible, during my playthrough of this route, knowing what happens to the real Basil, but at least that little moment was nice.

[@yh0o]

ur rite,, tat wuld be so cute if it were animated !! 🤩🤩🤩

[@Fauxbird]

oh my god I dont think I ever noticed that thats adorable holy shit

[@TotesAnon]

Epic.

[@totallynotafanficreader7850]

SHHH YOU’RE MAKING MY SUNFLOWER HEART EXPLODE

[@supremeoverlord0]

@@totallynotafanficreader7850 Aw, I can help out with that. Just keep in mind that with this cute comfort, the real Basil is dying outside, unable to cope with the loss of his friends and family, and alone with the truth without Sunny. :)

[@JetZV]

Does anything explain the police siren during the credits? It's an odd way to end the game in my eyes. EDIT: Figured it out by watching other videos discussing the endings. It uses the ending where you go home without confronting Basil in his room and just move away, so the sirens are likely a sign that Basil took his own life on the last night.

[@nobody-mh6un]

I was absolutely *D E V A S T A T E D* when I realized what those sirens were about. I got one of the neutral endings when I first played so I just jokingly thought the police finally knew about the mari situation lol. nope! just that my best friend killed himself because he wasnt able to handle the guilt/stress anymore! and i couldve stopped it but i didnt! :)! :)! :)! :)! :)! :)! :)! those smileys hide my pain after I found out.

[@palecaptainwolfkayls8499]

I played Omori today, and I got the standard Sunny Route ending. I couldn’t imagine what would be worse to experience for the first time… Finding out why those sirens are here Or knowing why those sirens are here

[@infyalex698]

I thought those sirens meant that sunny had a car crash were he died while leaving town

[@elizabethramirezthezenshii9691]

@@infyalex698 Something was following him, he either: Commited suicide under the stress that he never got to see his friends Basil Something made him crash as he was leaving

[@FZone96]

Ironically, ABBI's gifts are SUNNY's and his friends' real world items. The ones you purposely decided to neglect.

[@Wormilu]

how is that ironic?

[@Joesgamesntech]

@@Wormilu I guess because he doesn’t care about the items in the real world, but he cares about them here, where everything is meaningless anyway?

[@FZone96]

@@Joesgamesntech not the items, the friends. SUNNY rather has his Dream Friends than his Real Friends. Yet everyone's strongest weapon in HEADSPACE are their favorite things from the REAL WORLD. (e.g. KEL's basketball 🏀)

[@ubilwilbur4775]

So the red knife really belonged to Sunny?

[@otavioplaysz]

it kinda makes me wonder what did abbi do to be banished to the abysm, as she is probbably "the wisest" that the coral talked about

[@nwolc7484]

It’s even worse when you remember that Black Space gets stronger every time Omori resets Headspace. Black Space will just get stronger and stronger until Omori can no longer suppress it and is forced to confront the truth, in which case he'll kill himself in one final attempt to protect Sunny from it. And since Sunny has already succumbed to Omori, he probably won’t even try to stop him.

[@craycraywolf6726]

The hikikomori route is so heartbreaking, it makes me appreciate the Sunny route so much more!

[@SomeAsian]

I distinctly remember a crackfic where Kel just casually *breaks Sunny's door down and forces him back on the normal route*

[@RandomPerson-ks3ql]

You got a link?

[@NixonWaititu]

@@RandomPerson-ks3ql it's by otomerson on a03 search for it's description there

[@itsrainingcats9365]

oh jeez, the sirens during the credits are probably because of (spoilers) . . . . . . . basils death

[@Buncie24]

I thought it was because Sunny and his Mother got caught in a traffic accident. Or Sunny finally snapped and caused the accident himself with the Something following him to the car and all.

[@k_nito7954]

Yeah, near the true route's ending you can choose to go back to sleep in basil's house and when you wake up you find out basil stabbed himself in the gut with his gardening shears

[@Fionacle]

Oh I didn’t realize he did it with gardening shears, I couldn’t tell what he stabbed himself with

[@kaexewires7531]

oh... now i understand why... that is so horrible... :

[@GeeztJeez]

very sad

[@cbou713]

watching this after finishing both routes this route made me genuinely love the true ending as this feels horrid. we all know the dream world will keep falling apart until sunny is broken down to nothing as the cycle keeps repeating, getting more broken until he goes insane or kills himself as he becomes Omori

[@fistful-of-flan]

Just realized that Sunny doesn't bathe, change clothes, or brush his teeth during the Sunny Route.

[@moon_orchid143]

You can choose to brush your teeth, though.

[@catscanhavelittleasalami]

He's a stinky lil goblin. But he has depression and a fear of drowning so it's understandable.

[@MisterJohnDoe]

He does brush his teeth and in some cutscenes he seems to be wearing pajamas when he meets up with Omori.

[@miguelthenyfan0363]

He technically took a bath in the sunny route while saving real world Basil from drowning

[@gamertypeawesome]

doesn't he get a cool eye patch tho

[@acloudofcurls5336]

The ultimate weapons ABBI gives you feel... odd. They're common objects, the least extravagant in HEADSPACE, but you can tell that's how they're supposed to be, because they're the closest to reality. They are all memorable objects the team uses in the real world, making them feel familiar. It's kind of a reminder that you're reaching the end, there's not much else to find. You're going to have to wake up soon.

[@scilyh7064]

One thing I noticed that unlike in the normal route, we never saw Mari in White, especially she was supposed to guide you through the water when going to Last Resort, she also appeared in other segments too, being there to push Sunny into overcoming his issues. Wonder why she decides not show up after you take this route.

[@Joesgamesntech]

Maybe she has given up trying to save him after four years because he at least seems happy there, and to force him to get over his fears, move on reconnect with his friends etc, would just seem cruel as reality is so painful for Sunny, and he would just realise that Basil is dead and become even more guilty? I think when you see Mari like that, it’s her spirit trying to help you move on.

[@morganwilliams2597]

Actually, since dreamworld is Sunny's creation, I think the idea that Mari helps is a sign that Sunny still had hope she would forgive him, and like her self before she died, always want to help him overcome his fears. When she no longer appears, it's proof that Sunny no longer believes that, and he decides to rely on Omori/Dreamworld. He chooses not to face Mari, so Mari becomes less and less present in Dreamworld.

[@SleepySage]

She basically says "screw this, this kid ain't ever going to learn now"

[@craycraywolf6726]

​@@SleepySageFr 😂

[@jthecryptid]

Mari refuses to look at you in the "Mari is Home" secret during the mixed and hikikomori routes. And Something relentlessly follows you in the real world. I'd say she's pissed and desperate for Sunny to open his ears, but he won't listen to her. You know how the boardwalk scene implies that Headspace Mari is sometimes Mari's spirit, and thats why she had autonomy? I yhink a similar situation happened in the Basil boss rush. She used the "Its just a clone, you're not hurting the real me!" logic of the simulator to get Sunny to face the Truth one last time. It's mean and extreme, but Mari is probably desperate and is using the Nuclear option. Of course it didn't work, Sunny turned tail and ran away, but she at least tried

[@eldritchabomination9726]

I wonder if the others telling Basil that they'll always be there for him is Sunny's guilt?

[@Joesgamesntech]

Basil: “Thank you for always being there for me” This dialogue really rubs it in, Sunny knows that he left the real Basil and failed him, so he makes dream Basil say the opposite... Edit: And later he says he knows he can tell you all anything! Even though in real life you can hardly face him and in the dream world silence him before he can say something painfully honest!

[@lorenzoperalta2579]

You didn't visit blacker space? After defeating the fear bosses in the lost library you can access blacker space through the laptop in white space.

[@adachiplsrailme]

blacker? i don't think that is a word. just call it black space 2.

[@chronicat]

@@adachiplsrailme you can call it both blacker space and black space 2

[@adachiplsrailme]

@@chronicat i have looked through some dictionaries and i haven't found the word "blacker" yet. hard to accept that it is an actual word at this point.

[@chronicat]

@@adachiplsrailme consider it a name rather than an adjective. thats just how people call the area

[@ArtificerProductions]

I prefer to call it the vantablack, I think it sounds cooler.

[@nightingalebard]

Thanks so much for making this. I really wanted to see the Hikikomori route, but I'm having a hard time playing through it after getting the good ending. The context is just *so* sad. Seeing someone else playing through it makes it easier, and I'm in awe by how much thought Omocat put into making this wonderful game.

[@shamsa3110]

what I realized is that sunnys parents aren't ever at home.. I think that they already know the truth and just don't want to be around him.. there's a part where when you find a key, you go to the black hole like usual and this time a tree was there continuously saying " you are not my son, leave" ( or something along the lines ) and I think that's sunnys father,, after the incident the parents obviously weren't dumb and knew what happened,, altho I'm not sure if the parents directly expressed or talked about the death of mari with sunny and basil,, what I know is that sunnys father fully rejected him and left him,, sunnys mother tried to accept it,, but she couldn't handle the fact that she lost her only daughter,, and even worse because of her son,, but she didn't want to lose her son either and felt too guilty to leave him which is why she instead decided to never be home, but just to show her remaining love by putting sticky notes and telling him to take care of himself,, she probably knows how guilty sunny feels and didn't want to leave him like his father.. but she couldn't handle seeing him and remembering how her daughter died..

[@Apparently_I_am_everywhere]

In my opinion, this is the worst ending. You never make up with your real friends. Real Basil likely still commits suicide, Sunny keeps his inner demons and likely dies. At least in the bad true ending you could save Basil and make up with your friends. Sure, you do a lot more in Sunny's cognition here, but it's fake. All of it is.

[@sanschungle]

At least you cheer up capt. space boy :D

[@pef_v6107]

@@sanschungle But Captain Spaceboy and headspace is all fake. Sunny just made it up.

[@niayue]

@@pef_v6107 sunny isn't made up, that's omori !!

[@QuayeEPICGAMER]

@@niayue he said sunny made cap space boy

[@niayue]

@@QuayeEPICGAMER oh sorry !! i read it wrong

[@potatt3782]

19:22 aw jeez.. that final duet part at the end of the song... Pain

[@lordhershel]

Undertale's Genocide route was nothing compared to the emptiness and discomfort this route leaves you with.

[@percyap4271]

Both games have left me emotional scars eitherway

[@HawksDellas]

The infamous Undertale comparison with another game of its genre even though they are completely different experiences, never gets old.

[@stemdapple]

Well you have hard boss fights to annoy you so you don’t feel as bad for killing everyone

[@midgematic8659]

@@stemdapple Hard to feel bad about killing them when this btch ass skeleton keeps laughing at me dying now isnt it

[@undeadprincess5726]

@@midgematic8659 * you've died like, what, 20 times now? "Yeah, bone man, maybe it's because you keep firing lazers at me!" * lol get rekt noob

[@clover284]

*”Leave me here. There’s no hope left for me.”* *_:(_*

[@dbwixn9784]

Didn't realize there's so much extra content

[@tunks3355]

me either wtf??

[@somethingdumb3928]

it’s only if you ignore kel that headspace becomes bigger

[@apuppydeer]

something about seeing my own guide in the description made me freak out lol

[@Hoozelfitz]

It's so strange how a "best case scenario" playthrough and a Hikkikomori playthrough differ Watching Manly play the good route -Omori's Journey looks much more like a exp grind to become the boss. Omori needs to relocate and rescue Basil, but ends up destroying Basil for being a final reminder of the truth in dreamland. This Omori becomes strong enough to do what is needed in "protecting" sunny forever with a never ending dream off a building. A combination of overwhelming guilt, constant suffering, and dreamy bliss. -Meanwhile the player experiences what Sunny know is true and gets to piece together this incredible sad story while also trying to mend a torn tapestry. But in the Hikkikomori route, it's all broken -Omori darn near outright loses to Sunny's idea of Basil Guilt. The fear, anger, and emotional turmoil of one of his closest friends (and confidants) is strong enough to spiral Omori into this avoidance of truth that is wicked worse then the power hungry omori. He just skips it. Straight to plan x he's taking this bitch over and locks Basil's truth in the deepest pits of his world to probably resurface later and cause them to K.O. irl. -And Sunny's life is just some incredibly boring chores with his trauma becoming more active present in the real world while he starves/disassociates worse until he's just ...gone. Dreaming till his world ends What an insane game that made lots of people cry

[@lafrenchone649]

Everyone's talking about the story but can we just enjoy how much content there is? Like the devs made these whole DLC like bosses, quest, world etc for something that almost no player would see during their first playthrough

[@eryyyy_y]

Hi fellow French Omori enjoyer

[@snowguitarrr]

If I'd played this game myself I would've unknowingly taken the hikikomori route and I wouldn't have been able to cope with that omg

[@madmulk9]

I am incredibly pained by the fact that Omori's best skills (as well as all the ultimate weapons) are gained in this route. I never knew and it only makes the game hurt more.

[@MxchiefMxker]

Aww, poor mutantheart. She just wanted you to make her certain emotions.

[@Ferkeshu]

when he puts the items in the boxes hurts

[@tearay1073]

*Duets for Piano and Violin* -just stab me it'll be so much easier-

[@midgematic8659]

@@tearay1073 its even more devastating when you get the slinky right after that. Im convinced thats fking intentional and it made me scream

[@pluto3194]

@@midgematic8659 Holy shit I just got the connection that's so dark but also kinda funny

[@bensweetser7647]

When I did the sleep until morning option in my playthrough, the first person shots had a hallucination of Hell Mari, with the second shot showing her torso and the third shot showing her face. It made me jump when I first saw it.

[@fisheraser]

i love how captain spaceboys mixtape is in his space ex husband theme lol

[@null_100]

22:13 i appreciate your visible indecision on whether you should throw away the broken kite, adds to the cinematic atmosphere 👌

[@jvronquillo3716]

I finished my first playthrough of Omori and got the True ending. I saw this and after watching, it makes me think how sad this route truly is if you do it on your first run. Firstly, you don't actually know what happens to Mari in the real world. When you wake up she's not there and you never know why. You also don't realize how different everyone is in the real world compared to headspace. Kel is tall af, Aubrey is just mad and Hero is... Hero but with an air of sadness. It also just makes the game seem shallow in my opinion, in the Sunny route, you get all the story and a bittersweet ending but in this route, it's just another rpg, sure you get a cool combat system and fun characters, but you don't actually understand what's going on. It just seems sad to think how there could be people out there that did the Hikikomori route on their first run and never found out the truth of Sunny's suffering. Well, it's been a month since I finished the game and I still think about it, I truly loved it and I feel there won't be another game that will make me feel the same as Omori did. I feel that this isn't just a game but an experience. Anyway good day to you all and stay strong my friends.

[@echothewanderer112]

Something tells me that the robot isn't as evil as they want me to think.

[@samdal420]

They just wanted to be loved ;-;

[@Big_Sloppa]

Another case of the classic "poor communication kills" trope.

[@toasteroven7683]

It really spooks me how Stranger really just gave up on Sunny facing the truth and tried to kill him right then and there

[@puzzled-head3493]

Confronting your fear of water in the true route: Aubrey pushed Basil into a lake and Kel is fighting with her, there's no one else there so Basil could drown. Even though you can't swim, it's what you have to do to save your friend Hikikomori route: "oh nuuuuuu bath scawwyyyyyy" _(drowns and dies)_

[@BigSanz]

37:12 i like how you vibing with this

[@chuck_duck]

When I first played this, I didn't open the door for Kel, and I had no clue what people were talking about online. Then I replayed the game.

[@rexeye3638]

In the end Sunny took a quiet life. No blaze of glory for him.

[@eddinn]

I don't know if anyone mentioned this, but when Basil returns to the picnics with Mari, the one photo in his photo book that isn't labeled is the photo taken outside of Basil's house (DREAMWORLD) right before you go to the Real World (or Sunny's house) for the first time, and face SOMETHING on the stairs. I found it out while playing through OMORI again, and found it really interesting.

[@somethingAccurate]

It actually differs too, the photo is centred and much less blurry. Basil mentioned the bluriness created character so ....

[@christa4172]

20:47 ...OMORI is staring back No SUNNY. But OMORI

[@FZone96]

There is nothing left of SUNNY anymore, he can no longer move on, he rather stays in his bubble as OMORI, fleeing from his problems and only caring about himself. He doesn't even recognize the employees from the Moving Company at the Ending as people anymore, he only sees black transparent silhouettes. It's quite sad honestly, SUNNY doesn't even know how KEL looks like in the REAL WORLD in this route, he only sees the projections of his friends how they used to look 4 years ago, not to mention the things that go down in the real world with AUBREY griefing MARI and bullying BASIL, HERO returning from college and he and KEL having a little baby sister now...

[@not7170]

I think the walking up the red hands staircase represents that it’s a part of black space, and the most horrible part of it, where sunny represses his memories and everything else.

[@kidincredgamez5819]

The "Gator Aid" pun didn't just make me laugh... _It made me chortle._

[@unamelable256]

Gator an artist who can help the whole team by strengthening their defense

[@AllNamesTaken_]

everyone's talking about feeling bad about ignoring kel or smth but I only care about how on cue 8:49 was

[@charlesonjr3rdpikmin]

Fr

[@kaexewires7531]

WOAHH :o

[@itsoracle]

YOO

[@iug5672]

1:30:46 Iunno why the transition from "This will be our final fight" and everyone seemingly okay to everyone being depressed, miserable and crying is funny as hell to me

[@pasteluluu4089]

Can't fear something if I can kill it in headspace 🤭

[@ohmyohnothegrapesarecoming2011]

sunny has a LOT of toys and books. he also has a pretty big house (same size as kel and hero's, but bigger than basil's and aubrey's), which had a lot of fun stuff like video games (and the tree house), which is why the friends hung out there so much. so it shows sunny's parents are well off (or used to be), this could have added to the pressure they put on mari to succeed

[@b0x640]

I, no cap, did the hikikomori route because I thought it wasn't Kel at the door cause last time it was HELLMARI... Two playthroughs well spent

[@satellitestar6734]

Tfw you loose a bunch of the extra content the hikikomori route gives you because you accidentally asked the gatekeeper guy at sweethearts castle to give the castle to you before you could get a good look around of it...

[@primetimeseven]

I haven’t watched yet but that’s a lot of dedication. Definitely gonna come back to this once I have the time so now I won’t have to make myself sad-

[@sneakysileny]

Just wanted to say in 2:42 the *spooks* arent exclusive to the route. They happen if you wake yourself at night when you are not supposed to. Its like Sunny is forcing himself to go back to sleep by imagining those things.

[@bubbalubba3747]

The developers really made choosing which route to play a tough a choice. Do you want to let Sunny have his happy ending but loses a lot of potential gameplay content or do you want to doom Sunny to forever live in a dream just so your game is funner.

[@itsoracle]

or you can just, play both 💀

[@itsoracle]

true route first hikikomori route second like it is intended

[@starwaves1631]

Honestly I'm more interested in the story than the gameplay

[@nightanddae7533]

I like how that's almost reflective of Sunny's feelings too. In the hikkimori route he gets to be lost in the fun and cute world, with lots to do and entertaining quests to play, but in the end changes nothing about Sunny's mental state and just leaves him as a hollow shell of himself, similar to how the player would feel when they play this route. More content to play, but the end result is so empty and bitter, and, as a lot of people have said, anti climatic.

[@cefsuebak7473]

who is standing on the stairs the night before the ending of the game.

[@devin9050]

SPOILER FOR OMORI. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . The character shown is actually Sunny during the Good Ending sequence should you check on Basil during the evening of Day 3. This is during the sequence when Sunny faces the gruesome truth. (kzbin.info/www/bejne/rqW1mHuad5hpmcU)

[@cefsuebak7473]

@@devin9050 this is spoiler but I have a question . . . . . . . . . So this after basil and sunny fight during the good ending and when he gets his eye taken out??

[@devin9050]

@@cefsuebak7473 . . . . . . . . . . . . Yes, during the part where Sunny picks up the dark pictures depicting the truth.

[@devin9050]

@@cefsuebak7473 . . . . . . . . . . . . Sorry, no, not after, I mixed up the events. The scene I described is before the Basil Sunny fight.

[@trumemer6677]

sunny's mom is such a careless mom lmfao doesnt even care wtf his son can *possibly* do inside the house

[@lemonlife7943]

Basically, the term "hikikoomori" means like your confined, a shut-in, that's why you can see that nearly the rest of the game you just stay in your house until the last day (I don't know, I haven't played the game yet, though I am a bit storywise with the game).

[@pointpoint8445]

Something that feels awful is ABBI's gifts and how each of the other characters have ultimate weapons relating to their Real World counterparts. As if ABBI wanted to remind Sunny and Omori about their real friends, that even if she can't fully remember nor can she help Sunny remember, she can at least give one last reminder.

[@retsychan3413]

I feel like the ending when he was leaving was saying that even if he leaves that guilt won’t.

[@nothingcanyouseentherenope6075]

At 26:55 instead of sunny seeing his friends, he chose to be inside and never chose to leave the house and never remembered the truth. That means he couldnt overcome any of his problems and beat omori. Instead, he gave control to omori and lost his identify without trying. The thing that is even sadder is that while losing to omori when fighting him, sunny drops the violin and then lost control. But in this timeline, sunny not only doesnt know what the truth is, but also he is filled with fear and trauma. At the cutscene, sunny looks at omori as a way to escape, and simply give the control to omori. Then, he lost everything that he could've used to overcome and improvise. Now, omori makes sunny's body and mind to get more hallucinations and basically merge the headspace with the real world. Also, Abbi is a representation of sunny trying to reach out and remember the truth but he has no power over omori and just like that he was gone. Sunny no longer has the control of his own soul and body anymore. this is a very good and very realistic and a very sad ending for me.

[@purpledabs]

so is the ending in regards to something bad happening to sunny in the car or in reference to basil ?

[@LarryButz]

Basil ends up committing suicide due to a lack of interaction from anyone and learning that you moved out already (his grandmother is also insinuated to have died in both routes so that doesn't help his mental state), he also does this in the neutral ending of Sunny's route if you ignore him in the last night. You even see his corpse

[@hauwley]

I think their car got crashed or something

[@madet8322]

Nothing happens to Sunny after he got into car, its just, in the end SOMETHING(his guilt) still follows him wherever he goes. He might kill himself soon or later even if he doesn't do it in his current house.

[@madet8322]

The ambulance noises must be for Basil, since he will always commit suicide on the 4th day.

[@evaaa5051]

@@madet8322 But he doesn’t always end up committing suicide? In one he ends up in the hospital..

[@hellonokay1925]

You really do become OMORI

[@galaxychill9578]

hikik-omori

[@galaxychill9578]

:)

[@itsoracle]

@Kin wabi han LOL

[@caracaracat2958]

For anyone wondering, the sirens in the background of the credits are ambulance noises for Basil… because Sunny never made things right with him, Basil committed sudoku. (If you know what i mean the n you know what i mean.) There’s an option of actually seeing dead basil in his house with Kel, Hero and Aubrey there, but I believe that’s on a different route.

[@hhp_.teri0]

VIOLENTLY SOBBING 😭😭😭

[@Yuti640]

No matter how far you move away, no matter how much you run and hide Your past will catch up to you The SOMETHING you fear will never leave until you overcome it

[@mrboerger1620]

...

[@avocadoperson]

Was looking for a video like this yesterday and now it exists, thanks!

[@Solisrite]

Same

[@blekiscooler]

This route just feels empty. we get to see more of the headspace characters yet theres a lingering feeling in the back of your mind and it feels off.