On Banning Women's Voices While Living in the Modern World, Usuli Institute Khutbah, 29 Sep 2023

[@stephenconnolly1830]

HIGHLIGHTS Bismillah al-Rahman al-Raheem [Sermon commences @8:41] 9:05 avoiding the minutiae. 12:20 the prohibition of the female voice and setting up Muslim girls for future disappointment - a case study... 18:15 ...relating to the (legal) tradition. 21:20 accessing the Divine will - direct and indirect revelation. 22:50 the serious responsibility representing the juristic tradition - speaking on behalf of God. 25:55 muzzling women - setting a precedence to girls. 30:30 protecting precious male Muslim ears in religious settings... 32:00 ...the dichotomy elsewhere. 32:55 blind obedience versus logic/thinking. 34:30 the juristic tradition on the call to prayer - Adhan and Iqamah. 35:12 the weak prophetic narration \ Hadith, "women are not obliged to perform the call to prayer." 37:50 the precedence of Ayesha... 39:20 ...plus other notable women who sounded the call to prayer. 40:30 Ghazali's review of the subject recorded in his work al-Wasit fi al-Mathhab... 41:42 ...Imam Shafii's opinion... 43:16 ...Imam Jafar al-Sadiq's opinion. 45:04 the absence of evidence not being evidence of absence. 46:50 the prohibition of the later scholars based on the presumption of the prevalence of chaos \ Fitna. 50:00 the then justification - patriarchal mediaeval society... 52:09 ...diametrically opposite the prophetic model. 54:20 the exception of poetry. 55:07 the presumptive legal basis of the prohibition of a woman's voice. 56:20 the clear case against such a paradigm today. 59:42 the hypocrisy of sending a Muslim girl to work in a 7-11 while banning her from sounding the call to prayer. 1:02:05 simplistic Muslim approaches to their tradition. 1:02:27 [second sermon] 1:03:30 a great Muslim innovation - the hospital ( en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bimaristan )... 1:04:15 ...pioneering such remedies as music therapy... 1:05:15 ...at variance with the vehemence of many present day Muslims against the art. 1:06:20 an article on the >250 hate speech gatherings in India directed at Muslims during the first half of 2023. 1:06:52 genocide studies - the storm brewing. 1:10:55 the young lady sentenced to 18 years over a tweet in support of political prisoners in Arabia + other similarly concerning cases. 1:12:30 the hypocrisy of the tyrant MBS interviewed on Fox TV. 1:15:17 the Zionist organisations' attempt to get the academic book by Satya Larson "The Right to Maim" banned from a reading list at Princeton University. 1:20:20 the admirable quality of evil people spreading evil - their tenacity, commitment and level of investment. 1:22:24 [supplication \ Du'a] Amen

[@anamericanmuslim6399]

🔥may Allah reward you for spreading logic.

[@moonboweve]

For new Muslim women there are so many restrictions, rules, contradictions and, yes, bullying. How can Islam last when half of the ummah are prejudiced against their own! I keep hearing that Allah wishes ease for us, but it seems our brothers and sisters want it to be difficult. For every question I have I go to the Quran, pray, read everything I can find (which often contradict each other), and then have to make up my own mind. And all the time I’m wondering if I’m doing something terribly wrong. I’m happy to have found Usuli and Dr El Fadl.

[@dearrationals]

Muslim men want to include women's voice under "awrah" to silence them. They already want to hide them under black burqas so they are not seen but they want to erase them completely by silencing them, so they can maintain control and make all the rules that benefit men only.

[@dearrationals]

Muslim men really have it much easier. They can walk freely, wear what they want, go where they want with little to no judgement or hate.

[@deedeee6271]

48:18 - Bless you sheikh for this!

[@Ms1234567890101010]

Great khutbah!

[@AliN-bb4rt]

At the time of The Prophet, salla-llaahu 'alayhi wasalam, the sheikh said The Prophet, salla-llahu 'alayhi wasalam, always led the prayers and Bilaal radiya-llaahu 'anhu, made the azaan and in the absence of Bilaal radiya-llaahu 'anhu, 'Ali radiya-llaahu 'anhu made the Azaan. Therefore, there was no opportunity for any woman to do the azaan and the iqaama. And that's why there were no women that had performed the azaan and the iqaama. After the passing of The Prophet 'alayhi salaatu wasalam came the period of the Rightly-Guided Khaliifs radiya-llaahu 'anhuma, to my understanding the Khaliifs led the prayers and some members of the sa'haaba performed the azaan and the iqaama and therefore at this periods too were no opportunities for women to perform the azaan and the iqaama. The same goes for the periods that followed, meaning the males performed the aforementioned tasks and had been for 1444 years. So, I am left wondering and the question that comes to mind is what has happened after 1444 years since the hijra, which brought about the opportunity for women to perform the azaan, the iqaama or even the prayers in public? According to the sheikh the women at the time and after The Prophet 'alayhi salaatu wasalam, such women as 'Aaishah, Fatimah, and others of similar stature radiya-llaahu 'anhumaa haven't had the opportunities to perform the azaan and iqaama. So again (excuse me for repeating), What is that after 1444 years after Hijra that brought opportunities to women in the modern world to perform the azaan and iqaama?

[@daayieevideos]

i think you may need to re-listen to his lecture around 49:50 - 54:15. Professor El-Fadl mentioned why jurists held certain beliefs about women's voices in public. historically, as Muslims moved from being "bedwin-based" and became empirical, (Rightly Caliphate, Umayyad, and Abbasid periods 632-1258 CE and beyond), until pre-modern times, (colonialism 18th/19th centuries), those leaders inculcated the societal norms of patriarchy (men dominated) in those former empires that dominated of women (Byzantine, Sassanian, Greek/Roman, and early Islamic), and they adopted the social norms they followed that women's place in society is limited as she belongs to the male of her household, and her voice was considered improper outside the home.

[@stephenconnolly1830]

Simply that times have now changed such that society recognises the need to be more inclusive. Also, I have attended many congregational prayers where the quality of the call to prayer - both Adhan and Iqamah - sounded by a man were so poor it would have been much better to have had it performed - with decent tone and in tune - by a woman.

[@dearrationals]

Even if we assume that no woman ever before this time gave the "adhan", it still does not make sense to class a woman's voice as "awrah" as some Muslim males love to do, to the point they don't even want women reading the Qur'an loudly in the presence of males or even speaking. This is a tactic to silence women and to maintain control over them. It is another way to stop women from asking questions, especially the hard questions that Muslim men don't like to hear. And about the adhan, I don't see why God would differentiate between woman and man, especially when it comes to God's holy words. It does not make sense. Men often make rules to benefit themselves and it's not surprising that they would do the same with Islamic interpretations and rulings.