On cutting boards, microplastics and bacteria

[@sebastianp4023]

the trick is to eat your food TOGETHER with the cutting board. Big chunks => no micro plastic

[@FaceFudge11]

Macroplastics

[@SteveBarna]

I don't season my STEAK I season my MICROPLASTICS

[@Zuhukanah]

Macromaxxing

[@schwanshon]

for heterogeneity!

[@blairhoughton7918]

But what would you season your cutting board on?

[@kayagorzan]

Why I season my microplastics, not my steak.

[@volovodov]

No. Just no. You can do better.

[@mars7304]

One day when the world's continents have calicified in place and all signs of life have vanished, somewhere scattered on the surface and embedded deep in the mantle, will be plastic. It will be both a short blip in the existence of the universe before it too eventually collapses into simpler elements. It will also far outlive us, the places we visit, and environments it suffocates.

[@stephenoconnor6180]

Both the cutting board and the jokes have been around since video one

[@Botejara121]

og day one grindsetpilled microplasticmaxxer sigma chad

[@micahrobbins8353]

​@@volovodov the jury disagrees

[@inscrutablemungus4143]

Here's my reason for using a wooden cutting board: I was at a conference once in the pacific northwest and the hippies there replaced all of the plastic swag that you normally get (water bottles, backpacks etc.) with one single "Made in Oregon" wooden cutting board. No this wasn't a conference on cooking or gastronomy (theoretical physics lmao). I could not tell you why they decided this was a good idea, but I'm glad they did because that little board is still on my kitchen counter three years later.

[@bunhelsingslegacy3549]

My favourite wooden one is a butcher block that was a promotional thing too, still using mine a decade later. But never for anything with onion or garlic.

[@YourCapyFrenBigly_3DPipes1999]

I just prefer wood boards bec wood is a natural fiber. I use it for anything and just handwash it thoroughly with dish soap once I'm done, let it air dry than I'll rub some cooking oil or food-grade natural oil into the surface to keep it from drying out.

[@ChronicAndIronic]

Made in oregon, biodegradable and feels better

[@crosscounter]

wooden boards especially the thicker ones last way longer than plastic boards. Never had a plastic that lasted more than a year.

[@chandie5298]

@@bunhelsingslegacy3549 i'm curious....why don't you cut onions and garlic on your butcher block? To avoid lingering smells???

[@ggw1776]

You should really be tasting your food as you cook to see if you're using the amount of microplastic that you enjoy, not what some person on the internet enjoys. Always season to taste.

[@blairhoughton7918]

This is why I always use nonstick pans for eggs. Saves a step.

[@dickjohnson9582]

I prefer to grate fresh cutting board over my pasta.

[@legionjames1822]

Nice one

[@Quantris]

You also shouldn't be afraid to use multiple cutting boards. HETEROGENEITY is the spice of life.

[@edwardsallow8931]

I know, right? my bugs just don't taste the same without microplastics.

[@yjk1037]

Woodworker here, i dont know what dishwasher safe wooden cutting boards are, but regular boards wont just last less if you dishwash them, they will almost certainly warp, crack or fail at the joints. Even leaving them in standing water for short periods of time can start to cause problems

[@ALCRAN2010]

Simple. Use pressure treated wood cutting boards.

[@majermike]

yjk please don't respond to alcran, he is probably a bot and if you respond it just encourages him

[@iulioh]

Especially in restaurants that wash with incredibly high temperatures to sterilize the dishes, it's not the same as a home dishwasher

[@christianhunt7382]

I should read comments before I make my own lol but most definitely yes!!

[@ImusNoxa]

@@ALCRAN2010 Petitioning the US Government to mandate pressure treated wood cutting boards in all restaurants everywhere tomorrow

[@andrewlee999999999]

I think the argument of "we dont know what microplastics do" shouldn't be a green light to just happily scarf them down. I think it's exactly the reason why people are worrying; the best case scenario is being chemically inert, and the rest of the cases are strictly negative. I'm surprised that this is the strongest foundational argument for this video, when really the same exact statement could be used to argue against it.

[@Gamesaucer]

How do you know the rest of the cases are strictly negative? How do you know there's not some hidden health benefit? It's _unlikely,_ but at this point we don't have any evidence for or against negative health effects. The argument here ultimately isn't "let's ignore the possibility of hidden dangers in our environment", it's "let's worry about the dangers we know exist first, like splinters and cross-contamination." With that being the argument and the ultimate conclusion _still_ being "using wood is honestly fine" I'd say he's on _your_ side.

[@scrumpopulous]

Yeah his arguments and strange rant about disgruntled men online annoyed me. I'm now a disgruntled online man complaining 😅

[@patrickdelrue546]

@@scrumpopulous Well I guess you both fit the bill...

[@thejesusaurus6573]

The point ultumately is that its silly to freak out about a plastic cutting board in a video online when a) we have no idea what the health effects are but there is so far no real evidence of anyhting bad happening in humans and b) that cutting board is likley to account for like 1% of the microplastics in your life anyway. The point isnt: dont worry about it, eat plastic Its: If youre worried about this cutting board and not 1000 other choices you make every day, its probably based on fads and scaremongering rather than evidence and rationality. If you dont want to use a plastic cutting board, dont. But if you are making that choice, there are a million other things you should be equally or more worried about, why arent you doing those?

[@jwpd]

​@@thejesusaurus6573 Yes, people are over emotional and irrational. But the point is, almost EVERYONE IS. If not, why would anyone make a whole video to complain about others' irrationality, already knowing they are irrational? People make big deals all the time. You can also make a big deal about *others making a big deal*. There's nothing really to criticize (if they are not wrong about microplastic being potentially hazardous).

[@michaeljull1175]

I used to work in a restaurant, we were required to use plastic cutting boards because they could be thrown into our commercial dishwasher and blasted with 165 degree water and sanitized

[@emilynelson5985]

That’s 329 Fahrenheit if I’m not mistaken

[@michaeljull1175]

@@emilynelson5985 no I was using Fahrenheit, I understand KZbin is largely Americans

[@kaboomerty1638]

@@michaeljull1175as an american, never heard of a ferretheight?

[@acts_of_random_kindness5018]

Some countries use both Celsius and Fahrenheit

[@kaboomerty1638]

@@acts_of_random_kindness5018 i was going to eat your hand off the bone but you seem nice

[@fernandosilva6295]

Remember guys, our grandparents loaded up with asbestos, so our parents could do the same with lead, so we could do the same with microplastics.

[@BossDrSample]

Only the micro plastic thing has seemed to be gotten more out of hand than the lead or asbestos with plastic being ubiquitous found all over earth in the environment, even deep in the ocean and Antarctica. It's quite concerning and I wonder what can be done to solve this issue facing the world

[@CaseNumber00]

Apparently I had a uncle that died a terrible death from working with Asbestos, months before science full won out and legislation started being passed. Survivorship bias.

[@MatthewTheWanderer]

The difference is that there is zero evidence that microplastics are harmful, while there is massive evidence that asbestos and lead are very harmful.

[@ColossalM]

​@@BossDrSample Lead was literally being pumped into the air by cars

[@havenp]

@@MatthewTheWanderer Yue Li et al., 2023. Potential Health Impact of Microplastics: A Review of Environmental Distribution, Human Exposure, and Toxic Effects. Environment & Health. Evangelos Danopoulos et al., 2022. A rapid review and meta-regression analyses of the toxicological impacts of microplastic exposure in human cells. Journal of Hazardous Materials.

[@NectereYT]

As someone who formally worked in the industry that made plastic (low and high density), I can tell you what goes into making it is poisonous. There are MSDS sheets for days, I wish we would stop using plastic in/on things used for human consumption. If you get a styrofoam cup and put something hot or acidic in it, you will see a slick form on the surface, thats leach from the cup. It happens with all low density plastics. Most plastic once scratched, heated or left in the sun, it will leach. Also people reuse plastic things meant for single use, stop it.

[@vanessaboutros9507]

What do you think of those plastic white vinegar bottles.

[@dianamiller3307]

I am more concerned with keeping crap out of the landfill. I have a dishwasher, it cleans the stuff.

[@tw8464]

Thank you. Exactly. It's not just the microplastics particles. They're leeching chemicals inside our bodies.

[@erik_arman]

@@dianamiller3307The plastics from the items in your dishwasher get in the water supply.

[@dianamiller3307]

@@erik_arman the plastics from the items in my dishwasher go to the sewer. We're not drinking sewer water in my region

[@danycashking]

One advantage of (solid) wood cutting boards, which is why I prefer them, is that when the surface gets jagged and rough after lots of use you can sand it down, sterilise it and prep it with some cutting board oil and it's as good as new, whereas the plastic ones just keep getting rougher and especially when it's white plastic you can see that the deeper grooves get dirtier and you can't get them clean again no matter how much you try.

[@daravango]

I think I saw someone online using an open flame (probably a blue one, like a jet lighter or burner) to melt the scratches on a plastic cutting board, that's worth trying, and the heat might actually sterilize the surface well enough.

[@maudiojunky]

@@daravango Good luck getting it nearly as flat and smooth as sanding wood. Heating plastic like that is also going to create thermal stresses which will warp it and require annealing. If the plastic isn't too gummy for sanding when it's cold I would try sanding it underwater, otherwise solvent smoothing is probably the best way without creating warpage if there's a compatible solvent.

[@erazn9077]

@@maudiojunkyAnnealing? Dude it’s not a metal board

[@SimonTemple-d2f]

You can get planes to remove the top layer of poly boards to achieve the same effect. Environmental health inspectors will often recommend it on old boards. We all agree it's a good idea, then they leave and we carry on as before...

[@luckycatdad8369]

There's nothing stopping me from sanding down a rough plastic board.

[@iffyfox9749]

As the old adage goes "There are microplastics in your body and there's nothing you can do about it."

[@withnail-and-i]

You can detoxify it in the sauna or just by sweating

[@ratingcrib]

@@withnail-and-i please try thinking! if microplastics are in your blood stream how is sweating getting them out?

[@emiliofahr504]

​@@withnail-and-i Say sike right now

[@withnail-and-i]

@@ratingcrib Please try reading the scientific literature that goes with what I say! Microplastics have been found in sweat.

[@withnail-and-i]

@@emiliofahr504 No I don't live a decade ago

[@EarthwithAdam]

You made a video not too long ago about the drawbacks of getting microplastic from Tupperware, and its health complications. Why would cutting boards be any different?

[@buckaroobonsaitree7488]

Buy Gruns

[@thejesusaurus6573]

It's not, did you watch the video?

[@Fakespy]

He’s probably getting paid to speak out of both sides of his mouth. Such a hypocrite

[@PixelPioneer23-q5p]

He's not very coherent.

[@eyegrinder94]

I don't know if microplastics are actually bad for us, but I know wood definitely is not, and considering our history with various wonder chemicals that do wonderful things (asbestos, lead, freon, radium, opium... you get the picture) I'd like to teeter on the safe side and do as much as I reasonably can to not be the one to find out. Also, I just don't like plastic. It does not provide the sensory feedback that gives me happy chemicals.

[@SimonMester]

Thats literally the sanest approach, instead of saying "whelp, there is no overwhelming research papers sayong exactly how it hurts us over decades so its fiiine"

[@AlahuSnackbar]

I don't understand why people default to the knee-jerk "well its the norm and we font know how much it harms you so..." Like yeah no sh*t maybe that's why you shouldn't do it.

[@YourCapyFrenBigly_3DPipes1999]

True facths. I prefer wood for all those reasons myself.

[@YourCapyFrenBigly_3DPipes1999]

In it's defense, though, Asbestos Happy Snacky Squares were a beloved snack of our parents' generation in the 50s and 60s! That plus Sprite for babies and weird jello'd dessert creations really makes me miss the old days!

[@tw8464]

Exactly

[@shawnrast1350]

This is why I cut directly on my quartz countertops. Like using unsalted butter, I can more precisely control the amount of microplastics I'm adding to the food.

[@pingponglee]

This

[@nanashi7779]

This is why I cut with my knife directly on another knife so I can precisely adjust the amount of metal shavings and the gradient of the food that I'm dealing with

[@dbprice100]

You're brave. I would be too afraid that would scratch my counters.

[@verager2493]

I mean, if you love sharpening your knives, it's great! You get to sharpen them more! Or if you love using dull knives. You'll get there faster and more completely! And of course, knife fiend that I am, I get to snort all those lovely micrometals! Freshly shaved off the instrument itself! Steel within, steel without, brother.

[@davidlynch9049]

They are sealed with chemicals.🤷🏻

[@luxuryballer2216]

From what I've read so far it seems like one of the big sources of microplastics is doing your laundry, since the tiny bits of synthetic fiber shaken loose can get inhaled.

[@Methodman27]

That's true. Another big source of them is from vehicle tires. As to whether there is any link to long term health effects, I don't know if we have a 100% conclusive study yet, and part of the reason is it was impossible to find a human control group without micro plastics in them lol.

[@AlienSteveious]

And it smells soooo good 🤤

[@atlas4698]

1. Do not buy synthetic textiles. 2. Hold breath when emptying the lint trap on a shared dryer. 3. Get sick from some other hazard of the industrialized world.

[@mdkooter]

You do realise wool, cotton, silk and linnen clothing exist right? I've not work a single polyester thing for years. I

[@luxuryballer2216]

@@mdkooter I mean... yeah? You just have to make the conscious decision to wear polyester or any synthetic blends. Which, when you look at the picture pulled back, obviously a lot of people won't be?

[@razgon14]

I'll stay with wooden boards, I like to update my virus database.

[@m0llux]

"THE AVAST VIRUS DATABASE NEEDS TO BE UPDATED"

[@dugilee4236]

those virus bring more flavor imo. They are good sources of protein.

[@FIGHTTHECABLE]

Bacteria*

[@Mrbfgray]

Same here, and irrational fear of bacteria, which we can live without, has done major damage.

[@MrSupergingerman]

Ik joke, but honestly that's an interesting point. Assuming the residual bacteria is at a very small amount that only occasionally resurfaces I could see that actually being a good thing for your immune system

[@lwbb]

Like Adam said it's about minimising. I use wood for preparing the majority of foods as I'd rather ingest wood fibres than plastic but if I'm cutting up raw meat then I'll use a plastic board as I can put it in the dishwasher, best of both worlds

[@tomwood5896]

This. I find using a wooden board is just so much nicer. It looks nicer and feels nicer to use. And I guess that's reason enough to use it. I do keep a plastic board that I use for raw meat though.

[@changthunderwang1294]

That's not minimising.

[@Johan88k]

What's the point of using a plastic board when cutting meat? Unless you eat the meat raw, you will kill off any bacteria that might be transferred from the cutting board during cooking.

[@silvermushroom-gamifyevery6430]

Cross contamination concerns. It’s easier to have multiple plastic boards that you just toss in the dishwasher, than sanitize a wood cutting board if you have space issues at least.

[@Johan88k]

@@silvermushroom-gamifyevery6430 You can burn meat in one and vegetables in another wooden cutting board so you don't mistake them or have different-looking ones. But yes plastic cutting boards take a little less space if that's a concern. Anyway shouldn't using a plastic board for veggies make more sense, since often you eat them raw. And there can be contamination from growing and handling them. Several cases of contaminated lettuce with E. coli for example.

[@Shmew455r]

No one's blaming plastics for their lack of success in life brother. It's common sense to not want plastic in your food.

[@iceblaster1252]

Vitamins aren’t regulated by the FDA, especially ones like Adam is promoting. Do your own analysis, don’t buy just bc ‘it’s good for you.’ Frankly I wish Adam would do videos on the actual effectiveness of vitamins without a sponsor attached, much like how I think he should tackle other things like Hello Fresh’s detrimental environmental effects, but alas his livelihood would be SHOT if he did that.

[@VividBagels]

you would think Mr "I'm effectively retired" would start being more selective about what he advertises

[@plc_memes]

😢​@@VividBagels😢 5:17 😢😢

[@hastyscorpion]

Everything in the world has trade offs. And you also don’t know everything. Just because you view something as morally wrong doesn’t mean it is.

[@sarahwatts7152]

I very much agree; this sponsor segment would hit differently if it was just a fiber supplement, but because it has claims about micronutrients I'm extremely skeptical. Of course, you can see that there will be quite a lot of plastic waste too, because the daily ration of gummies comes in a little packet every time (they don't let you ramp up fiber use as is generally recommended, nor do they trust you to eat only what they recommend in a day, rather than slamming the whole container at once)

[@martinba9629]

The ad parts are ads. Nothing in there I take seriously. It's what pays Adams bills, I'm fine with that. Otherwise I just ignore them.

[@k4zuh1r0]

Nuance is what is missing from so many online discussions. People love to parrot hot-button, sensationalistic statements rather than taking the time to think about what they truly mean and the nuances behind them.

[@scoobertdoobert7893]

Sensationalistic is redundantly the state of being sensational, sensational meaning the state of being a sensation. Just say sensational

[@sIosha]

Nuance? Everyone who doesn't like plastic cutting boards are stupid incels according to Adam's commentary here.

[@mjs3188]

​@@scoobertdoobert7893 this is an extremely degree of pedanticalism and I'm here for it

[@thegood9]

Bingo...and this is the main reason why people have become so aggressive, and what has essentially ruined social media as a true means of communication. Even texting on phones can be misinterpreted too easily. We need face to face communication IN THE SAME ROOM, NOT "ZOOM", to get to know each other. We are NOT "friends", nor do we even KNOW, ANYONE we discuss anything with online only. THAT DOES NOT COUNT. And kids are being RUINED by thinking they have "friends", by sitting in their rooms nearly 100% of the time, and never leaving their parents' houses.

[@CullenCraft]

And a striking number of people see nuance as weakness. As if simply knowing something without thinking about it shows confidence or something like that.

[@sinisterdesign]

I love this channel and I always appreciate Adam's analysis; however, I think there's an irony in the analysis here. He makes a thoughtful, systemic case for why restaurants are required to use plastic cutting boards and for why he uses Nestle products, arguing that there are systems in place which make it difficult if not impossible to avoid using these things. However, that sort of broad systemic thinking goes right out the window when Adam starts talking about people he dislikes. In his estimation, commenters unhappy with their lives are unhappy because they choose to look at the misery box, choose to not move their bodies, choose to not go out and meet people. In my Dream Video, Adam would discuss the systemic factors in play here, too! We in the US have inherited an atomized society where the walkable towns of our grandparents' generation simply don't exist anymore, by design. Most of the country now consists of isolated residential enclaves where travel to the gym, to work, even to a grocery store requires an expensive, fuel-consuming privately owned machine. That has consequences: daily living no longer produces the exercise and incidental human contact we used to get as a happy side effect of living in walkable places. Community no longer arises organically; exercise now requires special effort and its own dedicated chunk of our limited free time. The most reliable means of getting human contact now *is* the Misery Box. Adam, if you're reading this, I suggest checking out some urban planning channels; I think they'll lend your perspective another valuable dimension. 🙂

[@YourCapyFrenBigly_3DPipes1999]

Urban planning is awesome and it would be great if we could get back to historical mixed use urban planning in this country, but nobody stopping us from getting up, being more active and making the most of the immediate physical environment we live in. I don't disagree with you however but I'm saying nobody can stop us from our proving our lives even one small bit at a time, but us. We don't have to wait for the perfectly designed neighborhood to enjoy getting out of our front doors. If we wait for that, we might be waiting a long time. Walking doesn't take up that much space, and if you're an otherwise good health, most blocks /neighborhoods have at least some space for feet or a bicycle to fit. As for official sidewalks and better trails tho I agree with you, we could always use more of those. I guess as far as I'm concerned in the final analysis, where there's a will there's a way. We could and should have better designed neighborhoods, but we also need to take responsibility for our own sedentary choices.

[@TKInternational76]

You know about Arlington, Virginia? Will the fitness dude madena video on it.

[@tw8464]

Well said

[@LuluTheCorgi]

​@@YourCapyFrenBigly_3DPipes1999I'm from Germany, I go on two walks a day minimum When we visited my wife's family in California we didn't go on a walk once. There was zero shade within walking distance of her families house, just going frommthe house to the car made me sweat through my shirt and I really love going on walks

[@escapefromny2012]

I was sickened by his rant. Thanks for pointing out his childish argument.

[@Colinthecasualcook]

Hey Adam! 10+ years of food service work here. We use different colored cutting boards to try and mitigate cross contact for potential allergies. Green for fruits/veg, red for raw red meat, yellow for raw poultry, brown for cooked meats, blue for raw fish, white for dairy or eggs. I too am concerned about micro plastics and my hope is that in the future, local law will mandate we use rubber cutting boards. Rubber is softer and better for knives anyways. As of now, they’re popular in Japan and used in fine dining and hopefully in the future they’ll become the industry standard.

[@joekaf]

I'm pretty sure he knows why restaurants do it. He's just saying nobody has bothered to research how much this practice reduces food borne illnesses.

[@VeronicaKozyreva]

is micro-rubber a concern yet?

[@BrunoHenrique-gi1wd]

@@VeronicaKozyreva Rubber and Plastic are the same thing... its just polymers... no?

[@VeronicaKozyreva]

@@BrunoHenrique-gi1wd Natural rubber is not plastic, it also comes from trees, but rubber cutting boards are made of synthetic rubber which is basically plastic

[@blairhoughton7918]

​@@VeronicaKozyrevaNatural rubber is a natural molecule that's mimicked by plastics. Over half of all rubber is synthetic. Also, while food particles that get into cuts on wood or plastic will be microscopic and unlikely to pose a biological hazard before they become inert, I can't imagine the same being true for rubber, which would slice easier and just close up like an incubator around big globs of fish guts and garlic.

[@MadocComadrin]

The point about the manosphere weirdly picked out a rather small group of people who are getting freaked out about this compared to the entire freaked-out population, and consequently the point is a bit disingenuous. We've got pearl clutchers on all sides freaked out about microplastics, and the manosphere guys are neither the loudest, the most numerous, nor the first. While Adam's usually pretty good about background research, I'm actually incredulous that the trend even exists in that specific group (and wasn't just a one-off thing he saw once), because I've heard numerous people complain about microplastics plenty of times, and 0 of them have been from that group with men in general being the minority of complainers.

[@subz81]

I agree here, it felt like it came out of no where and wasn't justified. It just felt a bit like punching down. Young men have legitimate systemic social problems that are being increasingly recognised as a problem worth addressing. Telling young men that their situation is basically all their fault and they just need to lose weight and socialise isn't helpful. It stuck out because Adam's content has been years worth of excellent thoughtful and considered videos.

[@natewellmanhouston]

Agree. I've always taken Adam to be empathetic and thoughtful. I wonder what is clouding his judgement with his crass comment.

[@MadisonRamanamabangbang]

Esspecially considering he's openly talked about his own dark experiences with depression when he was in college, peeing into jars because he was too scared/depressed to go outside. Like gee, maybe other people have also been/are also in those pits of life Adam, ever thought about that?

[@iminumst7827]

I was thinking the same thing, It's uncomfortable when people try to turn science political regardless of which way you lean. Whether we should care about plastics should come down to one question, is it healthy? I don't want anyone to talk about how much of a man or incel you are for what cutting board choice you make.

[@jakedesnake97]

I feel Adam just got angry at trolls who were criticizing the Indian restaurant's video (let's be real, some of these comments probably were tinged with racism). It's ok if that was his motivation for making the video, but that tangent is basically an ad hominem attack and sunk his credibility in my opinion.

[@ajsrf]

that was a weird tangent, lol. I've seen WAY more microplastic alarmists come from "health&fitness" influencers than from the "usual suspects"

[@DarthZombie510]

Reddit is absolutely insufferable when it comes to anything related with microplastics. Doubt they're part of the mannosphere strawman scapegoated in that tangent lol. Those guys are weird about raw ingredients, not pop science conversations

[@duolingoowl920]

@@DarthZombie510just say he offended you manlet 😂😂😂😂 chadgusea strikes again

[@ManinTidyWhities]

Why I eat wood pulp and not BPAs

[@ExterminatorElite]

Eh, "don't know enough to be freaked out yet" when I already know my body and environment is riddled with microplastics is hardly reducing my level of freaked-outness.

[@SPQR_14]

Honestly the worry and stress is probably far more harmful to you than the microplastics. You could get hit by a semitruck tomorrow you know... We are all on borrowed time. Just learn to relax and enjoy the ride while it lasts.

[@TheLaualamp]

When I found out how much tire dust we breath in I couldn't really take these other freakout fads seriously anymore, I just prefer to live and enjoy the limited time I have on this planet.

[@buckaroobonsaitree7488]

My grandfather installed the asbestos you hear about in commercials, got mesothelioma. My father was a chemical engineer that was exposed to many GRAS compounds that wound up not actually being 'S'. I am concerned about the unknown long term effects from many different things in our environment. And I'm married to the most wonderful woman in the world, retired early to start a homestead and take care of my elderly mom and stepfather. No anger about my station in life bub❤

[@ILsupereroe67]

"we don't know enough to freak out at this point" - sir, I normally freak out unless I know enough *not* to freak out

[@wegner7036]

Same attitude towards lead back when it was ubiquitous.

[@TheFabledSCP7000]

Time to start freaking out about gravity, and the Higgs Field, and Covid associations with cancer, and the decreasing birthrate So how do I cope with all this. My secret is I'm always freaking out

[@lumonetic1124]

​@@TheFabledSCP7000 I'm currently freaking out about how I will ever afford to rent a house by myself, let alone own one

[@bosstowndynamics5488]

​@@wegner7036You can be cautious without panicking though, and recognising that the microplastic exposure from using a polymer cutting board you already own is trivial compared to environmental exposures from drinking water and, for that matter, the food itself (which picks it up from the environment it's grown in) is important here - you aren't going to solve microplastics by just using a wooden cutting board and making everyone else do the same, the best approach is to reduce the amount of plastic things in general that you buy and, quite frankly, take political action that empowers environmental research and regulation (which in the US includes, but is not limited to, voting against Republicans who very much want to deregulate this space further)

[@thepotch]

you’re either exceptionally well read or drowning in anxiety then

[@tommykubitschek2736]

* looks up from reheated tupperware at the office *

[@iulioh]

Glass ftw

[@iulioh]

To add: I advice tbe ikea ermetic glass containers because you can buy the plastic lidl separately so you don't end up with mismatched containers :)

[@Bunnito-q2w]

@@iulioh I use those too! They’re very sturdy. I’ve only had one chip so far. They’re also good for prepping and food storage. I use a stainless steel box for my lunches that I don’t heat just because it’s lighter in my backpack.

[@brickman409]

Idk, I think it's a really bad mindset to think, "lets keep ingesting these things until we find out they're bad" rather than, "let's hold off on ingesting this until we can prove its not harmful" And I get that no matter what you do, you're going to be ingesting microplaatics, but I'd argue that makes it all the more important to limit your consumption of them as much as possible. Yes, we don't know how harmful micro plastics are, but that's kind of the problem. Lets keep them out of our bodies until we figure that out.

[@tw8464]

Exactly

[@sarahlynn7807]

But shouldn't you be applying that to the resin that coats your wooden cutting board? The avoidance thing usually seems to just be another form of choosing your unknowns.

[@LuluTheCorgi]

Nah man I love leaded gas and paint, heroin, cigarettes and Asbestos Best stuff in the world

[@LuluTheCorgi]

​@@sarahlynn7807my wooden cutting boards don't have any resin in them, wooden cutting boards usually don't thats why they are called wooden not resin cutting boards All you need is a slab of wood and some oil

[@sarahlynn7807]

@@LuluTheCorgi Well whatever they use to coat them comes right off and then the cutting board is on its way out.

[@aarond4487]

Adam: There's not much evidence about microplastics and health Also Adam: Take this vegetable vitamin candy to be healthy

[@itsthevoiceman]

Yes, that was in the video. And...?

[@DeIta.]

⁠@@itsthevoiceman I assume the point was that there wasn’t much research for microplastics - and that there wasn’t much research for the product he’s advertising? I dunno, personally I just kinda ignore most advertised products these days anyway.

[@tigrerojo9685]

@@itsthevoiceman he is an hypocrite. Not sure how you didnt get that...

[@a.lollipop]

he did say right before that that multivitamins actually do have research behind them

[@RJohn-hd1gq]

@@DeIta.the research shows plastics do affect our health. A massive recent study in Melbourne Aus and I believe NY USA demonstrated that over a decade, some plastic increases the rate of autism in males.

[@dechasrisen4783]

Those gummies are wrapped up in more layers than a Russian Babushka

[@MarcIverson]

At around 9:20 or so, that is by far the most bizarre explanation for people being worried about microplastics and/or commenting about it, in a snarky way or otherwise, than I could ever have imagined. Talk about strange and unexpected connections! That narrative was straight out of the Twilight Zone, maybe an episode with a weird mirror, or it could be something much better.

[@Matt-hy9qj]

Fr bro. That shit was weird asf. This mans on some psych ward shit 🤣🤣

[@Prodigalstunna79]

He’s a lolcow he did this same thing on his recent video on sage

[@duolingoowl920]

You’re mad 😂😂😂

[@Holobiont420]

I'm a psychopath and use a glass cutting board

[@gw4yn]

they're really bad for your knives :(

[@PragMero]

@@gw4yn *bad for your steaks

[@micahrobbins8353]

​@@PragMero *bad for your ears

[@znoppen]

@@micahrobbins8353 *bad

[@nguye578]

This comment makes me sad hahaha; which if that was your goal, congratulations you won.

[@maxwell_edison]

Man these supplement/vitamin companies are SO expensive, even at 40% off it is kinda ridiculous for what turns out to be slightly less than a single month's supply of supplement..

[@maxwell_edison]

Do yourselves a favor. By some cheap vitamins at wal-mart. Hell if it's not comprehensive enough buy multiple types! It'll be cheaper and last longer.

[@BenBelman159]

@@maxwell_edison or just don't bother if you eat a normal diet?

[@maxwell_edison]

@@BenBelman159 Nothin wrong with a little fortification brother

[@BenBelman159]

@@maxwell_edison actually, there is. In a best case scenario in someone with a normal diet, at best the vitamin does nothing from a health perspective, but there is a monetary "harm". There are certain B vitamin pathologies that occur from excess as much as they do from deficiency, let alone others. I could never in good conscience prescribe (I'm a doctor) or recommend multivitamins outside of either suspicion or laboratory proof of a deficiency, and if the latter, my preference is very much to supplement that specific one. Then there comes the added layer of the vitamin market being essentially unregulated, and part of this means that you have no external body assessment to guarantee the amount they list is what is actually in the vitamin, bar a specific few e.g. the mono-vitamin ones where that kind if this is very easy to test and thus hard to fake

[@maxwell_edison]

​@@BenBelman159 Sorry I don't really trust people who say they're doctors on the internet but good for you. Either way the point of what I was saying is that there is no reason to buy the stinky overpriced vitamins in the video.

[@danielschultz2605]

Incel dudebros aside, "we eat plastic all the time and nobody knows for sure if it's bad so don't worry about it"is a bad argument against people trying to reduce the amount of plastic they consume. The defense that they result in less microbe spread ignores the actual issue.

[@SPQR_14]

The truth is worry is probably a hundred times more harmful than the plastics they are worried about... People need to stop stressing out about every little thing or possible risk and just live and enjoy life. You could get hit by a semi truck tomorrow, so just live and stop worrying.

[@algot34]

Yeah, and it's also about not supporting the plastic indistry as much, and instead supporting more sustainable consumables made in wood.

[@MrChris00078]

​@@SPQR_14 There's very solid data on the harmful effects of microplastics, I don't see why wanting to minimise the impacts of that should be mocked. It's the classic "if we can't be 100% plastic free, why even bother reducing it?" fallacy.

[@EastHalo0Promotions]

@@SPQR_14 The irony is so strong I had to get ChatGPT to roast you Contradictory Logic: The responder suggests that "worry is probably a hundred times more harmful than the plastics they are worried about." This downplays the potential dangers of plastic consumption without providing evidence, while simultaneously elevating the act of worrying as a greater harm. It's ironic to claim that the emotional response to a hazard is more damaging than the hazard itself without substantiating that claim. Fatalistic Reasoning: By stating, "You could get hit by a semi truck tomorrow," the responder implies that because unpredictable tragedies can occur, it's pointless to be concerned about avoidable risks. This logic is flawed and ironically suggests that since some dangers are beyond our control, we shouldn't address those that are within our control. Dismissal of Proactive Measures: The original comment emphasizes reducing plastic consumption-a proactive approach to potential health and environmental issues. The reply, however, mocks this initiative by labeling it as unnecessary worry. Ironically, promoting inaction in the face of potential risks under the guise of "enjoying life" can lead to more significant problems in the long run. Overgeneralization: The responder's advice to "stop stressing out about every little thing" ironically overlooks the fact that not all concerns are "little." The cumulative effects of plastic consumption on health and the environment are substantial topics of global discussion and research.

[@SPQR_14]

@@EastHalo0Promotions Bro nobody reading allat. Learn to think for yourself and not ask AI to do your thinking for you... pathetic.

[@Azeur]

I do find it a bit funny that in a video about microplastics, the sponsor is selling a product where vitamin bears are packed into a plastic bag inside a smaller plastic bag. Probably not much if any residual coming from the bags anyway, especially if consumed within reasonable time. Same reason you don't wanna leave liquid in plastic bottles for too long.

[@rogink]

Even if the packaging isn't going to harm you directly, it's still unnecessary extra packaging.

[@letsgo_ev]

0:01 brat Phone

[@sedonafarley8382]

adam is SO brat omg

[@MrIanrocks]

Dankpods phone

[@jordansundheim7]

WHAT THE FUCK DOES “BRAT” MEAN

[@glutenfree4255]

and brat cutting board

[@BernardoPatino]

people are losing their gosh darn marbles also yeah this is the album of the year

[@PaulBarendt]

I was thinking, "Wow, this would have been great in the 80's and 90's to explain how 'we don't know' if PTFEs and Telfon products might be damaging so they're definitely still good" in a pseudoscientific way... and then he goes there. No mention of how people use Teflon in regular cooking at temperatures known to be outside of safe parameters (i.e. on some stoves anything above Medium). Yes, it's helpful to not freak out, and using manufactured wood bound with resins IS using plastics, but a lack of evidence of safety does not imply something is safe. We've experimented with wood for thousands of years; We're still learning if plastic might be the next pewter. Correlation is often the strongest evidence you'll ever find when we actually have human subjects standards. Appreciate the sourcing of the literature review. Mislike the analytics of "a lack of evidence and study implies an effect doesn't exist." If the study shows results I don't like, it's definitely a sampling problem - if a study shows results I do like, then it's definitely not a sampling problem! Random diss about ingesting wood as if we haven't been doing that for centuries as the primary mode of transporting food and drink were wooden barrels - what was the purpose of that besides distraction?

[@tw8464]

Well said. These type of videos just make people dumber and make the problems worse

[@MayankJairaj]

9:15 maybe the vocal minority is toxic young male but on subreddits like r/PlasticFreeLiving its mostly an equal ratio of male/female participation, which might not be huge but given the split between male-female reddit participation it is a great one

[@MemoreeLanee]

bro I was so confused when he started blaming it on young men? Most of the creators I see who make that content on like IG reels and tiktok are women.

[@wegner7036]

@@MemoreeLanee That rant about young men not getting laid and blaming it on plastic sounded downright Andrew Tate.

[@mikafoxx2717]

Pretty sure he was just making an example, not the only naysayers.

[@Mirage-pz]

​@@mikafoxx2717tone matters, timing and placement. At first i thought so too but then he goes serious and salty about it later in the video so nuh

[@cclockwise_ll3]

It's also a legitimate concern for men that men today, at least in certain parts of the world, produce less sperm than men a generation or two ago did. It's oftentimes blamed on pollution (though at this point I didn't see studies or lit reviews that give possible explanations). Sure it might not have to do with, say? getting a partner, but it is a good step for men to see how they are being affected by the modern world and at least trying to be healthy in a non-harmful way (trying to word it so we don't go into Liver King territory)

[@hifumibestgirl]

I think most young men complaining about microplastics are concerned that a chemical that may produce harmful health effects is ubiquitous in the environment, and very few people who could do something about it are publicly acknowledging the problem. It likely has little to do with not being able to get laid, or being upset about being out of shape. In fact, I would guess that the vast majority of people who even know about microplastics are also taking initiative with their diets and physical fitness. It’s bizarre that you would spend time in this video negatively speculating about random bros on the internet.

[@SPQR_14]

There are truly xenoestrogens in the environment that are reducing testosterone levels in men. We've even identified some of them like BPA, but there are many more. It's not a totally baseless claim as he suggests.

[@bittermixin]

who could 'do something about it', and how would they go about doing that ?

[@evan12697]

@@bittermixin well for starters we can all do something about it by not using the plastic boards anymore. Yes, as he said the wood ones which are comparable in price will also put particles in your food, but he left out the part where our bodies really don't care about some extra fiber plant particles getting digested and shit out with everything else

[@bittermixin]

@@evan12697 the original comment i replied to is clearly referring to actions above an individual level. what can we as a country or government do to remove microplastics from our bodies ?

[@evan12697]

@@bittermixin oh sorry I misread. For starters, limiting the import of cheap plastic crap, limiting or de incentivising single use plastics, taxes/tarriffs on plastic production, revisiting health codes that prevent the use of wood or non-plastic utensils etc... It's actually disgusting how dependant we've allowed ourselves to become.

[@thatdirtymichiganmusician1038]

1:38 red for red meats, yellow for poultry, blue for fish, green or white for veggies. However, it’s pretty rare that this happens and most of the time you’ll only have white boards available.

[@lasi_eisbaer]

Imagine being vegan

[@thatdirtymichiganmusician1038]

@@lasi_eisbaer yeah, that’s why my restaurant doesn’t have vegan options😂

[@dek0609]

And here I just wanted to know how much micro plastic comes off a board. Who knew it would be a diatribe about how we don't know and shouldn't worry...

[@alexrogers777]

Well for what it's worth it seems like you could just read that North Dakota study he referenced a few times because that's exactly what they studied. It's the third research paper in the description, the 2023 link

[@dek0609]

Awesome, exactly what I was looking for. 7.4 to 51 g / person / year. 1.5 to 10 credit cards worth of plastic/yr

[@GimmeTaxShelter]

Every Adam video recently feels like I’m getting lectured. I liked the weird nerdy stuff without the angry undertones

[@seronymus]

Soyrage

[@sirsheepy105]

agreed. whats up with the random rant about incels hating plastic lmao?

[@seronymus]

@@sirsheepy105 he has done this many times, long story short he's reddit type progressive and has stated support for kids on hormone blockers before on podcast

[@CosmostheEchidna]

@@sirsheepy105touched you in a particular way?

[@joaopedroleite8998]

Adam is clearly very progressive, and it is probable that he always held back on being more political in the videos for the sake of not alienating a large chunk of the audience, but now that is on his way to retirement, he probably will be more like this, for better or worst.

[@Herkan97]

I had this video on in the background while reading comments and suddenly I heard something about sex. The amazingness of humans is both in their cruelty to other species and their ability to turn every topic sexual.

[@Krausam]

Most what i was see is (Red/Brown for beef and pork, yellow for chicken, blue for fish and crustaceans, green for vegetables/herbs, white for fruits). Wooden ones nearly only for bread and stuff or as chop blocks because they heavy scrubed and seasend with salt to dry and desinfect.

[@edhillman7525]

red = raw meat, blue = raw fish, yellow = cooked meat/fish, white = bakery, green = veg, brown = fruit. Though tbh you can use any colour you like for anything you like AS LONG AS IT STAYS THAT WAY. The point is to avoid cross contamination so as long as you always use colour X for thing Y then you're good. I use end grain wood at home, it's better for chopping on and my knives are happier for it and I'd like to spend less time sharperning my knives and plastering my fingers.

[@Krausam]

@@edhillman7525 how you can see, i was say "most what i was see" i wasn't say the rules for is that or anything. "AS LONG AS IT STAYS THAT WAY" is correct and i agree on it too. I worked with black and pink ones too, but they are very rare. I also like end grain wood for me personal for the reasons you say. Or how you say, the colour diffrence also for cooked or raw i wasn't see ever. In my expirience was same colour raw or cooked, but always a fresh clean one for any tast and change.

[@phryg2035]

crustations

[@Krausam]

@@phryg2035 is it wrong? Sorry when yes is my second language and i don't know all.

[@dferrantino]

@@Krausam it's crustaceans, but they're also being a dick about it.

[@mattbecker743]

Lack of information is such a weak argument. Risk is directly related to lack of information. If they don't have much research on microplastics that inherently makes it more risky. Man, this guy is a real doorknob sometimes

[@SPQR_14]

You've got it backwards. It is the recognition of risk that leads to research. There hasn't been much research because we've seen little to no harm.

[@spht9ng]

You sound like a scared conspiratorial crockpot

[@AnonsTreasures]

​@@SPQR_14This concern has only been recognized for like 30 years. As plastics have become more ever present the research on this topic has shot up like crazy as the concern over its health effects continue to build. So, you are right and wrong here.

[@goranjosic]

That's exactly what I'm thinking, I don't know how he managed to speak for 10 minutes without saying literally anything important, except for repeating a few phrases. The full video looks like a placeholder for a sponsored ad.

[@SPQR_14]

@@AnonsTreasures "Only 30 years" is quite the understatement...

[@nellePoint]

"we dont know enough to be freaked out" asbestos walks into the room

[@LuluTheCorgi]

Lead everywhere celebrating

[@Zanthum]

It's absolutely the misery machine. Also I use wood cutting boards because I like wood cutting boards. I think they are pretty and fancy. Tangent: When I get a new one I tend to just go at it with a knife and intentionally score it up to breakup the surface. Artificially putting some wear into it so it is no longer pristine. I find it somehow makes them easier to work with and eaiser to clean, and now im no longer concerned about it looking pretty, it's a tool to do work.

[@micahrobbins8353]

Poetic

[@Scum42]

I agree with the "pretty and fancy" argument for wooden cutting boards. About Adam's statement of "whatever gets you to cook", I got a wooden cutting board and it did legitimately get me cooking more because it was just a nice object that I was happy to use.

[@Buffalo_Soldier]

Wooden ones repell me, they must be full of bacteria. I just use glass.

[@MatthewTheWanderer]

I use wood AND plastic cutting boards. I also use kitchen utensils and gadgets made out of metal, ceramic, glass, and silicone. Some are even made with multiple types of materials. I NEVER worry about microplastics and bacteria. I keep my stuff clean and I don't get sick.

[@tomwood5896]

​@@Buffalo_Soldierglass is a great way to ruin your knives. As for "they must be full of bacteria", did you actually watch the video?

[@tomlechenapan5220]

I don't know how to contribute directly to subtitles but at 3:26 there's this bit : "...[inaudible 00:03:28]..." and the word said is "vis-à-vis" (which means regarding, borrowed from french)

[@Bozebo]

KZbin removed the ability to contribute to subtitles a few years ago and never explained why.

[@blairhoughton7918]

​@@BozeboGoogle turned evil.

[@okarowarrior]

​@@Bozebobecause users would exploit it to promote urls and scam sites. Also, a lot of times they would just make crappy transcriptions/translations that was more of a hassle than having automated transcriptions.

[@bosstowndynamics5488]

​@@okarowarriorIirc creators had the ability to disable community subs and to curate them fairly well too, some creators wound up going from high quality community subs to having to pay for professional subs instead (English auto subs are reasonable now but I don't know how good they are in other languages and they still leave a lot to be desired)

[@eightcoins4401]

@@blairhoughton7918 "Turned"? Cute.

[@maudiojunky]

Something I wish you mentioned is the ease of restoring a wood cutting board vs a plastic one. When cutting boards get scored deeply they become very difficult to clean. With plastic it's not always obvious how or possible to smooth the surface, as most plastics don't take nearly as well to sanding as wood and not all plastics can be smoothed with readily-available solvents. A sufficiently thick wooden cutting board can be resurfaced dozens or hundreds of times with sandpaper from the local hardware store with pretty minimal effort. For the home cook I think this is particularly relevant since it not only makes wood easier to keep clean but represents a cost savings over time for investing in a nice wood cutting board.

[@j-wenning]

As a former prep cook, I have to assume that it's pretty hard to get data on the benefit of color coded cutting boards, as they're easily and regularly disregarded. You might leave them in the dish pit for longer than you can wait, managers replace the wrong color somehow (or possibly don't replace them at all), or maybe you just don't get paid enough to care. One place I worked didn't even have color coded boards.

[@WolfLones]

Why did you feel the need to talk about the manosphear when there are harmful substances found in plastic that have been brought to light like bpa? I don't like the manosphear either, but condensing a widescale problem that many people are concerned about as something only a crazed vocal minority would be interested in feels disingenuous. Although the truth about microplastics as a whole have yet to be determined, but there are defined substances that people need to look out for, and be made aware of when buying plastic products, which again like bpa, can be found in waterbottles.

[@tymoteusz97]

Everybody taking about microplastics, but nobody talks about microwood

[@shroomyesc]

I think part of the reason even if for the time being the microplastics from cutting boards et al seem to be doing nothing to us there are valid reasons to fear, like knowing that the companies who produce these plastics have previously lied or tried to cover up harmful health effects of their other types of plastic or plastic ingredients, while wood is still just the same old wood we've had forever. What you should be wary of though is plastic pretending to be wood if you want to go wood. With the increasingly sour reputation of plastics, a lot of companies are producing "wooden" products that are basically just finely chopped wood or bamboo suspended in plastic and calling it eco friendly.

[@amanic9986]

Thanks for this. I had no idea this was a thing.

[@blairhoughton7918]

Bamboo. It doesn't stick together and look shiny on it's own. It's got tons of plasticky glue involved.

[@CybranM]

Wtf is the random tangent at 09:00 lol

[@atlas4698]

How dare I prefer to have a regularly functioning endocrine system

[@PrabhablyAGoodYouTuber]

I agree! This was very strange. He's made videos in the past and has told the audience that "plastic DOES disrupt hormones and the endocrine system" (link: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eHrZeaV5lNKGla8si=Q7o6rZ8E2YeaIdyi). But now, he suddenly attacks the audience (at 9:00) and effectively accuses men for being fat, lazy "incels" for caring about their body and environment? There have been recent studies that have shown high levels of lead, arsenic, and other toxic metals in women's sanitary products such as tampons. But I am CERTAIN he would NEVER call women who concerned about these toxins as "fat, lazy, deplorable people who are upset they haven't achieved the kind of status in the economy or in life, and they blame external factors such as the gender pay gap, the patriarchy, and shoving toxic metals between their legs". Do you see how unhinged and harsh that sounds? I mean, I get it. I also dislike the "alpha male sigma grindset chad" podcasts, but it is truly awful how young men are called incels just willy-nilly... because apparently, how dare they also face systemic issues

[@nicholassullivan9308]

I usually love your videos. This one came off as pretty condescending though, even as someone who had little preconceived ideas about plastic vs wood boards.

[@pumitriii6160]

I wonder how one of my favorite cooking channels is doing these days! 8:49 oh.....

[@duolingoowl920]

Are you triggered little guy 😂😂😂😂😂 chadgusea strikes again

[@romanfeigin4565]

my rule of thumb is a wooden cutting board for veggies and fruits and plastic for meat, fish and chicken

[@lonestarr1490]

I use bamboo for everything. But never one for meat and veggies at the same time. And I do wash them thoroughly with soap, no matter what the manufacturer says how I'm supposed to do it.

[@Ubeogesh]

That but also plastic for very watery fruit like watermelon

[@miac4455]

We should still be worried regardless of where the research is at…

[@thejesusaurus6573]

Why?

[@LuluTheCorgi]

​@@thejesusaurus6573heres some other things that people loved to do because there wasn't conclusive evidence it was bad Cigarettes Lead paint Leaded gas Asbestos Zantac (created hundreds of thousands of cancer patients, currently there's 77k Class action lawsuits for this drug, most people didn't keep a receipt for the OTC drug and aren't able to sue) Contagan (caused massive amounts of birth defects in pregnant woman) Literally heroin (marketed and sold as a safe, addiction free alternative to morphine) Do you want me to keep going? There's plenty more examples Do you want me to keep going?

[@mr.stoneface7699]

9:30 I'm imagining he had to do a few takes, but used the first one because the sarcasm gradually turned to eye-twitching barely-suppressed rage.

[@MyUniqueHandle.]

weird manosphere rant

[@Darksabre1500]

Valid manosphere rant

[@Computer-Woman]

tbh idk what it had to do with the subject? like im concerned about microplastics too, if not just for the thing he mentioned where its dangerous to aquatic life

[@xShadowChrisx]

Yeah that was the most blatant "othering" and demonizing to shut up people with valid concerns, I've ever seen.

[@xShadowChrisx]

@@Darksabre1500 What's valid about switching from making valid points to a pointlessly transparent shaming technique to silence people who might otherwise agree with you?

[@carlosr6597]

The tangent at the end about unsuccessful men complaining about micro plastic was weird

[@SPQR_14]

The guy is kind of a douchebag honestly....

[@scrumpopulous]

Agree. Very odd

[@vak2586]

Can't disagree with the narrative! Also, looking at him, he may just belong to the tribe.

[@evan12697]

@@manitoba-op4jx le epic roasting fkn pwned them for big chungus heckin wholesome updoots, you won the internet today sir!

[@livinginsidegemses]

@@vak2586 He has a wife and kids, is rich and is more famous than you or any of the incels he criticised are ever going to be. So stop the whining already

[@bippityboppityblumpkin]

We do know how big of a deal it is: very. We also know it has huge negative consequences on unborn children - to which carry a number of serious and severe lifelong health issues. Leaning into ignorance to combat the garbage that is being spouted is equally foolish.

[@stanlevox2291]

I've got an old granite cutting board, it works great. Easy to clean, no bacteria issues, no plastic issues.

[@brian190]

Why would he assume that the people complaining or advising against plastic cutting boards are sad / lonely men?

[@dixego]

The vast majority of people online whinging against the things that other people do are sad and lonely men.

[@jamesmccomb9525]

Because Adam said so I guess. Strawmanning in action.

[@blairhoughton7918]

​@@jamesmccomb9525You probably shouldn't sit so close to that leopard.

[@mzaite]

Side effect of getting ripped. Too much vitamin Chad.

[@jamesmccomb9525]

@@blairhoughton7918 I don't know what you're trying to say. Please explain what this phrase means.

[@santostv.]

Big plastic vs big wood a rant about projecting your insecurities and selling "vitamins" KZbinrs are getting better and better 😂

[@TudorNecula]

8:46 except we do know. microplastics are know endocrine disruptors and are also suspected to be one of the main reasons why testosterone in males is on a steep decline since the 50s, since microplastics keep ending up stacking in the testicles.

[@LuluTheCorgi]

The decline in testosterone and rhe rise of obesity are almost entirely identical

[@mjohnsimon1337]

10:52 Thank you for raising this point. Many people express concern about plastic cutting boards, yet they never address the plastic take-out containers and wrappers that come into _direct contact_ with their steaming hot/warm food

[@Al13n1nV8D3R]

People like to blame mom and pop restuarants for using cutting boards and the microplastics because people are brainwashed to not blame the big corporations that mass produce plastic food containers for takeout food and plastic cups for sodas at McDonalds, KFC etc etc... .the corporations are the ones they should complain about!

[@aolson1111]

Apparently, food just hovers above the plastic cutting boards.

[@beachballofdeath8888]

When I tell people that the single biggest improvement to quality of life is cooking own food instead of restaurants (they use plastic as much as they can, like a plastic container to scoop the hot food and they survive dish washing machine) they look at me with terror because ultimately they don't have to give up the privilege of all things eating out. Then over time, they get cancer and health problems and wonder how it happened.

[@gavcom4060]

@@beachballofdeath8888I love microplastics though

[@bearmugs1408]

@@beachballofdeath8888 I think it's a bit simplistic to say microplastics = cancer. The whole video was about how we don't in fact know what microplastics are doing to our bodies. However, cancer has undoubtedly become more common in recent years. What caused this increase (and continuing increase) is also unknown are there are so many variables and changes to our lives when we compare human lives from 50, 100 or more years ago.

[@Zinkolo]

9:40 you know some of us don't stay inside by choice. You have any idea how hard it is to find friends that live close by? I'm happy to have close friends online at the very least. Isolation is not a choice for a lot of people

[@oussama9183]

«We don’t know enough about chronic microplastic exposure to worry » you would have recommended cigarettes in the 50s wouldn’t you

[@LuluTheCorgi]

And leaded paint, and leaded gas, and Asbestos and so many more things

[@hovant6666]

People are allowed to be concerned about the next lead/asbestos/teflon (oops, too soon?), by the logic of "we don't know enough to know whether we should be concerned yet", no potential problem will ever be investigated because why spend money investigating if there's no concern? This was exactly the argument used by tobacco and fossil fuel companies. You also respond as if this is personal criticism being levelled on the restaurants, these are public fair comments being levelled at market participants

[@enadegheeghaghe6369]

Your comment makes no sense. We know that Asbestos, lead etc are actually harmful. We don't yet know the impact of microplastics. That in no way means researchers have stopped or will stop investigating the effects of microplastics on the human body. And researchers do this research because it's a valid and important scientific enquiry not because people are freaking out over the matter on social media. In no way did Adam advocate that research into microplastics should be stopped. You claim the tobacco industry made similar arguments (of there being no reason to be concerned) and yet that did not stop research into the dangers and harmful effect of smoking. So again your point holds no water

[@leolim690]

For long term buildup, i saw a study done that said that microplastics were found in every testical they in the study o.o it does buildup, we just dont know what it does yet, but doesnt mean ppl can have a preference for not wanting it in em, so the sentiment against restaurants makes a bit of sense. Also you said there have been some negative effects found but just casually swept that aside o.o wood like you said dont have these effects no? But i agree that they shouldnt be pressuring restaurants like that, should be pressuring their reps to change the regulations if wood is what they want in their restaurants. Its the same push in other areas regarding plastic use with takeout etc. its changing here. More foil now. Slowly change it right rather than just throwing up our hands and saying lets not bother? But yes leave the restaurants alone

[@Earthstar_Review]

I appreciate the attention to detail and acknowledging that, while studies show some organizations to be harmed by microplastics, so far mammals are not counted amongst them. I'm still not confident that they're totally benign, but science isn't idle on the subject of a highly prolific pollutant. Also, i really need to acknowledge that my favorite cutting board is plastic. I should get myself a nice wooden one for my birthday. Also also, I look forward to that Nestle video.

[@GogiRegion]

Anyone who criticizes restaurants using plastic cutting boards has never set foot in a professional kitchen in their life.

[@SizzleCorndog]

If I had to take a shot in the dark I would imagine that the color coded cutting boards has more to do with allergens and dietary restrictions than anything else

[@richdobbs6595]

Polyethylene is probably the least damaging of all microplastics, since its unlikely to be an endocrine disrupter.

[@samuell.foxton4177]

most of our everyday polymers probably aren't that harmful, it tends to be more the additives that are used with them, stuff like Bisphenol A (BPA) and many other chemicals that are not just plain hydrocarbons

[@richdobbs6595]

@@samuell.foxton4177 Yeah, but AFAIK, you don't need additives to make cutting boards. More likely that the additives are required for things that don't involve microplastics like coffee containers. I especially appreciate that my single use coffee and cat food packaging is more robust than my "reusable" freezer storage.

[@alexrogers777]

Kind of, high density polyethylene (HDPE) is relatively safe but low density polyethylene (LDPE) really isn't

[@bosstowndynamics5488]

​@@richdobbs6595Most cutting boards AFAIK are made of polypropylene rather than polyethylene, and both contain tons of additives because pure, unmodified plastics containing only the single polymer have fairly lackluster material properties (if nothing else, unless your cutting board is transparent it contains dyes to colour it)

[@overvoltagestudio]

I suppose that’s kind of true but the main polymer itself is usually much less scary than what’s added to it. be it colorants or plasticisers, those are the main things that leach into consumables and probably stand for most of the damage. And it’s scary that manufacturers don’t have to declare these compounds at all, just the usually mostly benign polymer if at all.

[@dungeonrobot]

Yeah I think this might be the last video I watch from Adam. The “we don’t know enough to be concerned” is the exact attitude that causes us to put lead in our paint and asbestos in our walls. We’re constantly discovering that certain drugs, pigments, and food have terrible effects on our bodies. To say that we need to wait until after the damage has already been done is an insane statement. I don’t think I need to touch on the fact he’s promoting unregulated gummy supplements either.

[@Matt-hy9qj]

Yep. Absolute ignorant take. I doubt he did any decent research either. Probably just found things that aligned with his POV. I hadn’t seen one of his videos in a while and I was super disappointed. Especially that psycho rant at about 9:00. Hope those sponsored gummies come with a chill pill next time 😭

[@cesrai]

What you are forgetting there are numerous studies backed up by mechanisms explaining why the materials you mentioned are bad. Plastics aren't new and there still haven't been any studies which definitely show the negative health effects of micro plastics and also no mechanistic back bone

[@cesrai]

His take isn't ignorant it's based on evidence and he even mentions that you can't always wait for evidence and taking precautions by going for alternatives is okay. Fear mongering is however not good and making fun of people for using plastic cutting boards while there is no scientific based evidence is plainly ignorant.

[@dungeonrobot]

@@cesrai Plastics aren’t new but our research into them is. Major studies are only just getting started. What studies we have show that they’re probably not great for our bodies or the ecosystem. I’m saying we don’t have enough evidence to be sure they’re safe, and there’s signs they aren’t. A lack of definitive harm isn’t relevant to what I’m discussing. I also definitely didn’t make fun of anyone for using plastic cutting boards. Did you read my comment?

[@PrabhablyAGoodYouTuber]

@@Matt-hy9qj IKR! That rant at 9:00 caught me completely off guard. Don't get me wrong, I certainly dislike the "alpha male sigma chad" podcasts or whatever, but to outright dismiss and mock their concerns about the endocrine disruption - especially when he has MADE A VIDEO ABOUT IT BEFORE and told the audience that it is A REAL CONCERN (link: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eHrZeaV5lNKGla8si=RjIYKWosyEY-zFQk) felt really out of place. There have been recent studies that found (I believe) high levels of lead, arsenic, and other toxic chemicals in women's sanitary products such as tampons. But I bet you that he's never going to call women who bring up those concerns as fat, lazy, deplorable people who complain about the "patriarchy", their status in the economy and the "gender pay gap", and who just wanna blame something external, etc.

[@TheMreminemguy]

I use a metal cutting board. How is that a hard one to figure out?

[@OsirusHandle]

frankly wood is disposable unlike plastic so just shove it in the dish washer and burn through it every few years. 1cm sanded pine is like 2£ for a board. oh boo hoo plastic is 50p cmon guys. we just need to charge proper disposal on plastic and it becomes unnaffordable lol

[@marknalberta]

It sounds like you come from a government state. But, I agree, if someone is too lazy to clean the wood properly and the washer wrecks it, but a new one... You can afford a machine to wash your dishes but you're worried about a piece of wood?

[@Bozebo]

" just need to charge proper disposal on plastic and it becomes unnaffordable" yep stop subsidising the externalities and it'll cost £80+

[@VeronicaKozyreva]

trees take time to grow, it's not plastic, people stopped printing on real paper to save the planet, yet you are suggesting to make wooden boards to be disposable

[@marknalberta]

@@VeronicaKozyreva wood stove heats my house for 20 minutes on a used cutting board, double purpose

[@OsirusHandle]

@@VeronicaKozyreva its literally just carbon capture 🤣 its a crop like any other. you plant trees then 20 years later lop them down

[@taoiseachjager9643]

I prefer to cut out plastic in my life where I can, such as using wood and metal cooking utensils and glass food storage, but it is impossible to remove plastic from your life. Plastic, and petrol products as a whole are involved in every aspect of our lives on some level. Not just physically in our tools, clothes, furniture, and tech, but also in the very manufacturing/agricultural processes the world relies on. Your nightstand could be made entirely of wood and metal, but plastic and petrol were used to cut down the tree, plane the wood, cut the wood into the correct dimensions, and to assemble the nightstand. Plastic and petrol were used to clothe the workers and keep them hot or cool enough to work. The food we eat is planted, harvested, processed, and transported using plastic and petrol at every step, even at places that pride themselves on being organic and "eco-friendly". I do what I can, when I can to avoid or reduce my reliance on plastic and petrol, but the reality is that pinning the environmental and health problems of plastic on your plastic cutting board is dumb. Even reducing our reliance on plastic and petrol a small amount, much less removing it, would necessitate a mass reorgonisation of society. Using a plastic cutting board is in real terms statisticly i significant in terms of your health and the environment.

[@YourCapyFrenBigly_3DPipes1999]

I don't mind plastic cutting boards but I just prefer to use wooden ones when I'm home. I appreciate that it's a natural material and it's just more tactile and enjoyable for me.

[@SniperAngle12]

First time I've ever seen hypochondriacs accused of being incels.

[@Aro9313]

Yeah that was an interesting tirade

[@Max-xc5rw]

I agree that it sounds like a stretch but I have seen it before especially from "fitness" influencers targeting that sphere. There are some publications about how (micro)plastics release estrogen-like hormones which feeds into the alpha male/beta low-testosterone male narrative. It fits in with the fearmongering over men being turned into women through hormone exposure, the "soy boy" idea resulting from misunderstanding of phytoestrogens from soy etc... so it gets latched onto even though it sounds absurd.

[@rogink]

Yes not like Adam to get into a rant about people he purely speculating about. Unless he has scientific evidence that the kind of people leaving these comments are incels!

[@SniperAngle12]

@@Max-xc5rw don't make points about the whole using the subset.

[@lucasng9617]

I think bashing incels and saying they deserve their misery has become the standard online. I think it is a lack of compassion and it doesn't help them. It only creates more depression and violence if you ask me.

[@WeatherManToBe]

You know you're soap boxing when the eyes of your camera start to glaze over 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@BenjaminISmith]

I work in a grocery store meat department. I'm required to use plastic-handled knives on plastic cutting blocks because I'm told they don't have the pores that trap bacteria like wood. Then I'm told I have to rub my blocks down with mineral oil before I use them because they have pores which make them hard to clean unless they're already filled with oil. So yeah there's no consensus other than tradition. I'm also told don't fill the tray too full of ground beef because when the plastic film is too tight against the meat it prevents it from breathing and makes it go brown faster, but that would only be an issue if the plastic film was breathable to begin with and again, wether or not plastic is porous and hospitable to bacteria is just a thought you can toss around any direction you please

[@zachhullander6911]

My stepfather works for a plastics company and they did studies on wooden cutting boards versus plastic cutting boards. They found out that the wooden cutting board actually holds onto less bacteria despite them finding out they decided to not publish the study.

[@armorhide406]

That read slightly confusingly. Anyway, yeah, makes sense. Why would they publish that wood is better?

[@thing4826]

but why hasn't someone who's in the wood side of the industry not done a similar study and published it then? It could give them an incredible sales boost. I just don't believe the claim that a study was done but not published without some kind of evidence.

[@IVIRnathanreilly]

​@@thing4826 Big wood is busy elsewhere

[@pablo-zn1mg]

that's pretty neat to read, but it also falls in the category of 'trust me bro'

[@SpongeBobaFett]

​@@pablo-zn1mg exactly, an adult version of "my uncle works at Nintendo, he said you can do this in the game if you just enter the right code"

[@omermagen824]

The "Avoid buying yet another plastic product" line basically describes the big problem. We as humanity are relying very heavily on plastics. If we want to build a real self sustaining society we need to limit our use of materials like plastics to the minimum, that being using plastics ONLY when necessary. Plastic is cheap and great but it is VERY demanding on our planet, and eventually itll catch up on all of us. Also plastics are a product of the oil industry which is just the other half of the very massive "big picture".

[@wingracer1614]

I don't disagree per se but the problem is, replace with what? Paper? All kinds of environmental problems there. Aluminum? Same thing. The problem isn't what we are using, it's the VAST amounts of it we are using and throwing away every day.

[@maximumgames2990]

@@wingracer1614 The real problem is trying to personal choices one's way out of a systemic problem. There's gonna be disposable something under every society, as there has been since the dawn of time. We need materials that can be sensibly used, disposed of, and reprocessed into something useful.

[@christopherwyllie9457]

@@maximumgames2990 can't personal responsibility our way out of climate change, but fixing climate change will require changes in consumption habits. Better to be ahead of the curve than behind it, imo

[@wingracer1614]

@@maximumgames2990 I never said I had a solution to the problem. Just pointing out that no matter what we use, it's still going to be a problem. And quite possibly a far bigger problem than plastic..

[@wooy1701]

@@wingracer1614 materials that can actually be recycled and that will last, everything has problems with production so what matters is needing to produce less of it

[@dukelornek]

Never new how controversial the material of a cutting board could be. What I have done for years is to have wood for veggies and plastic for meat under the false assumption that wood harbors more bacteria then the plastic counterpart and that veggies are less problematic when it comes to such.

[@XSonofArathornX]

Mate, you're a content creator on the Internet. You're going to be under scrutiny, and people are going to have good points. This is not a fight you should be fighting. We all need to use less plastic. This is indisputable. You might as well be a good example. How "common" plastic cutting boards are is irrelevant.

[@enadegheeghaghe6369]

A content creator should not stoke irrational panic and fear

[@baxterwilliams2170]

Just a note on the caricature of men avoiding plastics. I'm a married man recently diagnosed with infertility (necrozoospermia). I'm very happy where I am in life, and am secure in my manhood, but my wife and I are a little bummed we have been unable to get a pregnancy started. I realize that there still isn't good data on exactly how microplastics affect our hormones, and I realize that even if my infertility is the result of any accumulation of microplastics in my body, it's a little late to stop the accumulation and reversal may even be impossible... but can you blame me for swapping some of my cheap teflon pans and plastic cutting board for stainless steel and a wood board from a local artist? I know your target of the charicature isn't really directed at me, but rather chronically online "incels" but still I guess what I'm saying is there are others of us out there that aren't only trying to find a scapegoat for our poor dating life. Some of us have genuine concerns and are just willing to try what we can.

[@carlislesinkeri66pt6]

Our colour coded ones where I work go in this way: Brown for cooked meat, Blue for fish, yellow for raw chicken, green for veg and fruit, red for raw meat, white is 'multipurpose' or 'miscellaneous' :) Thanks for this informative video, Adam!

[@Noaaaaaaaaaah]

Very strange outburst. Claiming that only incels worry about microplastics is just fundamentally incorrect. I study environmental engineering in Sweden, and believe me, a lot of professors (and students) worry deeply about it, including lots of women. Stick to your scientific approach instead of infantile outbursts disregarding all worry as just incels being loud.

[@mattbecker743]

Yeah I completely agree with this comment. Well done. Adam isn't nearly as smart as he thinks he is. It's kinda infuriating.

[@Nesdude42]

Yea it seemed way out of left field. I can understand maybe someone in the moment having a bad day or something, but to even have the rant make it through editing - at that point it's a deliberate choice. It really weakened what he was saying overall for me. It was unprofessional. It's not enough for me to unsubscribe because imo he makes plenty of good content...He's just not the first cooking youtuber I would recommend.

[@Cooe.]

Lol the butthurt here is absolutely freaking hilarious. 🤣 You are proving his statement right with this crap. Go find something with actual real world consequences to obsessively worry about. The world has plenty of ACTUAL problems with actual clearly demonstrable harms that need to be fixed, but instead people with too much time and too little brains obsess about largely pointless nonsense like this... 🙄

[@seronymus]

​@@Cooe."Largely" doing much heavy lifting here

[@benholroyd5221]

I would guess its the comments he came across that prompted the video. And i don't think its a general attack on concerns about micro plastics, rather than an attack on people that don't put the risks in context.

[@TragoudistrosMPH]

The Nestlé is a strange thing to say. He's an influencer kind of saying he doesn't want to be responsible for influencing people with the products he uses. Yes, inadvertently, but idk humans learn a lot through observation so it could be frustrating but it's human nature to learn that way and people are trying to avoid supporting/rewarding problematic companies.

[@JayDaPeace]

Any thoughts/recommendations around silicone cutting boards?

[@pumitriii6160]

9:03 This is the most obvious case of projecting I've ever seen

[@adelehare8495]

bro is heading towards a comfortable early retirement in a happy marriage wtf do you think he’s projecting

[@blahbleh5671]

That was indeed incredibly weird...

[@pumitriii6160]

​@adelehare8495 He's attempting to emasculate those he disagrees with (over a cutting board lmao), saying they're "not the men they want to be", in a whining, seething, emotional rant. No secure man who is truly "the man they want to be" would proudly engage in such immature, effeminate behavior - hence why he is merely projecting his insecurity with his own masculinity onto others. And I suspect you know nothing of how his marriage and personal life are going. I've been watching this channel for years now (for actual cooking recipes, not these wierd whiny rants). Clearly he's not doing too well atm.

[@duolingoowl920]

?? He has a beautiful wife and a successful KZbin channel

[@duolingoowl920]

@@pumitriii6160seems less like personal projection and more like he’s pissed off at Internet losers who constantly nitpick every little thing. Hes probably had to deal with that sort of thing for years and years at this point. He strikes back at the comment negativity and you all jump up in indignant arms 😂😂 I wasn’t expecting him to come out swinging like that, but good for him! Too many KZbinrs and online personalities swallow the nonsense arrogant commenters throw their way. He doesn’t have to take it.

[@SirPerceval]

Wooden cutting boards can be sanded down and refinished with oil and wax to prevent bacteria from sticking, over and over again. Sure, you can sand down plastic too, but that will create a lot of microplastics that will go into the environment, which contributes to plastic pollution and environmental degradation. As long as you regularly wash your wooden cutting board, bacteria is not an issue, and by refurbishing it you can use it for decades without any issue.

[@sebaschan-uwu]

Yeah I mean people have been using wood cutting boards and utensils, bowls and plates for thousands of years, and no ones gotten sick. Soap really does work wonders. People love getting worrying about irrational things and not the things they actually should worry about.

[@Sk0lzky]

Maybe we should ban all cutting boards other than silver? It doesn't seem to cause adverse effects in the body. Or perhaps hard titanium alloys which simply can't be scratched by steel reducing the amount of particles to the minimum :v Both options sound very affordable too! 😂

[@GameFuMaster]

Just because we might be getting microplastics from other places doesn't mean we shouldn't reduce it from places that we know we can get it from

[@blairhoughton7918]

Same goes for splinters.

[@GameFuMaster]

​@@blairhoughton7918 Wood will harmlessly pass through your body. If you're talking about large chunks, then you should catch it, nothing to say that plastic won't be large pieces either

[@blairhoughton7918]

@@GameFuMaster Splinters will stick into tissues. Not happy.

[@IVIRnathanreilly]

​@@blairhoughton7918 If you're getting splinters from your cutting board, god help your fingers.

[@blairhoughton7918]

@@IVIRnathanreilly There is no god and I switched to poly.

[@BigtimePolecat]

I dont know. We aren't supposed to have microplastics in our body, so I'll continue to just find ways that help reduce my intake as much as possible. Odds are, we will find out that its bad for us

[@knarfxd4071]

Cutting boards don't have to be either of the two though, just sharpen your knife more often. Glass, metal, or ceramics will always be more hygienic and plastic-less. (also, aren't there studies that link microplastics to higher cancer rates?)

[@TheBudderWizard]

I hate to speak in defense of the manosphere, but your small rant actually does cover the things you said are the actual cause. It seemed like there was a bit of derision in that statement, if you are actually trying to reach those disaffected men you should try a different approach

[@espressonoob]

theyre bitter about their own shortcomings and wish to blame others. not my problem they are delusional, il speak as to how I see it. could care less if they get better, its like talking to brick walls and I have no time for it.

[@jamesmccomb9525]

​@@espressonoobIt's fine for you to hold that stance because you're a nobody that's just trying to live their own life. Adam is an influencer that's trying to reach as big an audience as possible. The expectations and levels of accountability are not the same.

[@SimonMester]

It was a really weird rant. A completely out of the blue, angry rant on something irrelevant. Has those racist uncle vibes.

[@sticklebacketienne]

@@espressonoobnobody mentioned you