On Open Bar Critical Drinker Calls Th3Birdman & His Haters Douchebags

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@thinkingsoutherner9911
@thinkingsoutherner9911 3 ай бұрын
I mean it’s not surprising whatsoever. Birdman’s a self-important wannabe actor from LA who’s spent the last several years mooching off CinemaSins videos
@fltngmmth
@fltngmmth Ай бұрын
The dude is entertaining.
@They_Hit_The_Pentagon
@They_Hit_The_Pentagon 15 күн бұрын
If you think he’s “mooching off” CinemaSins then CinemaSins is mooching off the film industry
@SurnaturalM
@SurnaturalM 3 ай бұрын
The Drinker don't want woke stuff pushed into movies where it's irrelevant, it's simple. He said himself that If you want a story that is as diverse as modern Los Angeles, you can't do it in a story in medieval Europe. Would you do it if the story took place in feodal Japan ? He don't like Mary Sues that are all power, but without any character because it's boring. He don't like that men are always portrayed as useless and idiots, but women are all perfect. Why? Because it makes the movies or series boring and prevent most people to get invested in the stories. It's not hard to understand.
@sandmancinema6859
@sandmancinema6859 3 ай бұрын
Its hard to understand if your world view is in direct opposition. For me woke in entertainment is when the message is more important than the art. Where diversity and progressive messages are forced into art. And the lefty will basically ignore the forced part. And say so you just hate minorities and messages.
@dudewithachannel1163
@dudewithachannel1163 2 ай бұрын
And if you watched Birdman's video he actually addresses these points
@MasterNegaTech
@MasterNegaTech 2 ай бұрын
@@dudewithachannel1163 What points? All I can hear of it just insanity that I CAN'T read.
@dudewithachannel1163
@dudewithachannel1163 2 ай бұрын
@@MasterNegaTech, well if you don't understand the difference between hearing and reading that's probably why you didn't get it lol Edit: also you unintentionally said Sandman has no points. Seems you can't read in general :P
@MasterNegaTech
@MasterNegaTech Ай бұрын
@@dudewithachannel1163 You know jack.
@jacklyons2088
@jacklyons2088 9 күн бұрын
the aristocratic utensil has done a response video on birdman attacking drinker, its excellent
@heritortheory6201
@heritortheory6201 3 ай бұрын
Th3Birdman "I am a sane logical moral person." Also Th3Birdman "Critical Drinker is responsible for all acid rain, crop failure, and cultural tensions across the globe. I just can't stand that someone who is more popular than me exists." Dude take a minute. Breathe.
@dudewithachannel1163
@dudewithachannel1163 2 ай бұрын
When did Birdman say either of those things?
@heritortheory6201
@heritortheory6201 2 ай бұрын
@@dudewithachannel1163 Hyperbole did you learn of it in grade school?
@dudewithachannel1163
@dudewithachannel1163 2 ай бұрын
@@heritortheory6201, okay if you want to be pedantic when did Birdman imply anything like this? Lol
@heritortheory6201
@heritortheory6201 2 ай бұрын
@@dudewithachannel1163 2:11 Dog whistles claim without clear evidentiary path to prove or disprove, garbage. 2:20 - 2:50 Th3Birdman Claims without presenting evidence that Drinker is not worthy, competent, capable, or genuine in his critiques or analysis and proclaims to speak for all of KZbin critique content, an impossible stance to support, that Drinker and his content is not welcome in the film critique space. Fallacy from unproven, unjustified, unacceptable authority. While having only 250k subscribers compared to Drinker's 2.15 million subs. This is where the obvious jealousy comes in. Drinker doesn't air out his grievances or target advocates. He jokes about biases and points out what he believes to be flaws in production and quality of story craft. Th3Birdman accuses Drinker of being irresponsible to all film audiences, we have only his word that this has occurred, garbage. Th3Birdman further accuses Drinker of "creating a hostile environment" If you listen carefully Th3Birdman TWISTS the word "Slop", indicating that he's exceptionally emotionally invested into this fantasy he's created. The fantasy is that just because Drinker has a larger audience, and a differing opinion about films and passionate crafting of them he is in some way damaging the discussion and enjoyment of the media. No one is forced to watch. Drinker has been very clear on many occasions that if you don't enjoy his content, you are free to leave any time. Furthermore, there is no evidence or remotely evidentiary pathway to link Drinker and any damage to any of the films he has critiqued. Drinker is not legion, he is not God, he is a person with opinions, passion, and experience and he is sharing those with anyone who agrees to "Sit a while and listen." 2:45-ish to 2:51 Th3Birdman telling Drinker to "go away now," throwing Drinker's catchphrase in Drinker's face, is as clear as an attack, though a limp wristed petty one, as you can get. No one elected Th3Birdman to Preside over film critique. He speaks for himself. I wouldn't even wager that Th3Birdman speaks for all or the majority of his audience. He critiques film and is perfectly fine to make a career doing so. But casting nets and claiming territorial rights over another creator. That is fucking bullshit. Th3Birdman needs to do some serious inner reflection and hopefully grow up. He is not in charge of KZbin. Nor will he ever be. This is a space for everyone to express their views as long as they don't attempt to exert force or threat upon others. Whatever delusion Th3Birdman has crafter about Drinker hegemony upon the film critique space is childish, petty, and gross. You wanted me to explain. There it is. Hope you're happy. Have a nice day.
@heritortheory6201
@heritortheory6201 2 ай бұрын
​@@dudewithachannel1163 Thought I left a comment earlier, but The KZbin mages may have deleted it because it had a verboten word in it. With what little we have here (no I didn't get the full context, busy, can do if deemed necessary). Th3Birdman accuses Drinker of being Alt-right and injecting attacks and "harm" aimed at minority groups. Didn't know full grown adults required protection. But it's just a series of words. Even if Drinker is Alt-right, which he is not, no one elected Th3Birdman supreme Critique commander of KZbin. He can demand all he wants, but if the KZbin Lords say Drinker is fine, that's the end of Th3Birdman's reach. Th3Birdman accuses Drinker of being a political shill not a film critique, opinion, not an argument. Th3Birdman tosses out Daw-g W-hi-s-tiles (verboten, maybe). Definition - A secret communication relayed without any encrypting keys to be deciphered by other people magically possessing the relevant cipher key. Every last account of this sort of event requires such cunning and magic that it can only be nonsense. 2:20 Th3Birdman addresses Drinker claiming that he knows the secret code hidden behind and within Drinker's inner most wishes, hopes, dreams, and farts. Further nonsense. He can't know this. Direct quote "It's irresponsible to my, your and every other audience that consumes film." No. Blanket impossible statement. Th3Birdman is not the king of KZbin, critique, or film. He does not get to decide which content is and is not allowable within KZbin. That is for the company to choose. This is a petty, jealous, vindictive moral judgement born of pure fantasy. I reject. 2:31 Th3Birdman accuses Drinker of creating a hostile environment that stifles the artform, opinion, off to the sludge factory again. At 2:36 Th3Birdman TWISTS the word "slop" revealing he's emotionally biased against Drinker, his right if he so choses but not evidence of fault. Drinker is not forcing people to watch his content. People watch of their own volition. Also states that Drinker is somehow responsible for spreading the idea that film critique is filled with "people like you." Uttered tersely, more unfettered emotional discharge. No evidence detected. Drinker's attitude is the "Sit a while and listen, if you want," approach. There is no barrier to entry or egress. This is baseless. 2:46 Th3Birdman - "I think I speak on behalf of every reasonable film reviewer out there, Go away now." Calmer, but still tossing Drinker's catchphrase in Drinker's face. A personal affront. More importantly an appeal to authority and moral judgement that not only does not exist but cannot exist. Th3Birdman cannot claim to speak for every reasonable film critique content creator. What are his measurements and guideline's? Where does he derive this thought or misunderstanding that he has been granted Carte blanch from on high to denounce whomever he pleases? Nowhere. He has no right. These are the actions of a jealous child. Th3Birdman need to have a good long introspection session and grow up quick. There I explained my reasoning. Hope you're happy. Have a nice day.
@SnakePit6517
@SnakePit6517 3 ай бұрын
Calling Th3Birdman an intellectual is like calling Sam Seder a good faith debater.
@Ajspecial1000
@Ajspecial1000 2 ай бұрын
Didn’t watch his video you little girl
@dudewithachannel1163
@dudewithachannel1163 2 ай бұрын
He's still a better film reviewer than these guys lol
@SnakePit6517
@SnakePit6517 2 ай бұрын
@@dudewithachannel1163 I haven’t watched Th3Birdman’s other content, aside from his Drinker critique. But even if that is true, that doesn’t change the fact that his video on Drinker was really bad.
@dudewithachannel1163
@dudewithachannel1163 2 ай бұрын
@@SnakePit6517, how so? Six guys in one call and not one even tried to debunk Birdman's critique and instead go on a side tangent lol
@sandmancinema6859
@sandmancinema6859 2 ай бұрын
@@dudewithachannel1163 That was never the intent, did you even watch it? They got a superchat about Birdman. And they say they don't care about another biased takedown video.
@darkwolf1202
@darkwolf1202 2 ай бұрын
Th3Birdman isn't worth the bother. he wants Dinker to acknowledge him.
@fltngmmth
@fltngmmth Ай бұрын
then it worked
@xicoxnicx
@xicoxnicx Ай бұрын
@@fltngmmthhe’s not gonna sleep with you bro
@They_Hit_The_Pentagon
@They_Hit_The_Pentagon 15 күн бұрын
Not really, if you watched his videos you’d see that he makes videos about any and all morons who say dumb shit
@Garrettmoron
@Garrettmoron 6 күн бұрын
Despot of Antrim!
@XJ43088
@XJ43088 2 ай бұрын
Funny how that now that they've addressed the video and talked about it, Birdman hasn't said a peep about the issue. Hold that L, Birdbrain. I used to be subscribed to Birdman, but ever since he started talking about politics and started defending garbage movies and games like The Marvels and SS: KtJL, I knew I had to unsubscribe from him. He needs to just drop the ego and learn to take an L when it's earned instead of being a pathetic coward who can't accept that he's wrong and aggressively attacks and insults people and weaponize his audience. This video proves that he's not even a blip on anyone's radar and that they don't have the time to waste on him and that Birdbrain just needs to keep his trap shut and stay out of political matters and movie talk and let these bigger guys do their thing, because he has no idea what he's talking about. I'm glad I unsubscribed from him before he started uploading those political videos.
@sandmancinema6859
@sandmancinema6859 2 ай бұрын
It could be he's not going to say anything. But I wouldn't be surprised if he comes out with either a video responding to the replies to his CD video. Or another video with more terrible evidence and arguments about Drinker.
@jonesinator47
@jonesinator47 Ай бұрын
I couldn’t have said it better myself. His constant bitching about Drinker, his room temperature takes on garbage movies and video games and refusing to take criticism has become so grating that I unsubscribed from him too. He is nothing more than a selfish, arrogant, and unlikable a**hole
@They_Hit_The_Pentagon
@They_Hit_The_Pentagon 15 күн бұрын
It should say something that they can’t argue with or disprove anything Birdman says, it’s just “wahhh you’re a lefty” or similar because you people have to make everyone who disagrees a political enemy because you have no argument otherwise, just “oh he’s probably leftist and lefty’s are bad” I say this as someone firmly right wing, I just can’t stand dishonesty and lack of logic when looking at something. People will just see the drinker point out that politics get shoved into films and take one correct statement and use it to defend him when he’s blatantly wrong and intentionally being dishonest Oh and there’s also the classic “he’s just a leftist” as if he doesn’t call out CinemaSins whenever they are obviously pandering to the left and pointing out that they are just saying shit to appeal to the Woke mob He’s literally just doing that same thing but for the right side of the political spectrum with Critical Drinker
@sandmancinema6859
@sandmancinema6859 15 күн бұрын
No his anti woke videos are garbage. I already linked you to the Critical Drinker hitpiece debunk I did. But here's another where he lies about Eric July. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZqeqaIqep5mUbrs
@They_Hit_The_Pentagon
@They_Hit_The_Pentagon 15 күн бұрын
@ I’m currently watching the video and I’ll get back to you about it, one constructive critique I have so far though is something I noticed in this one to, could you make it more apparent which clips are from the video you’re including and which you are adding yourself, sometimes it’s hard to tell if a cutaway is something Drinker or Birdman added in their respective videos or if you added it in yourself to support or debunk whatever statement was said, it’s not a huge thing it just makes it slightly harder to tell who is saying what
@dlovart9853
@dlovart9853 9 сағат бұрын
This Birdman guy he hits you with points or facts on why he doesn't see you as a movie review. This is your response maybe you truly are a grifter
@fltngmmth
@fltngmmth Ай бұрын
Thats funny... Birdman made one video where CD was the topic. Far from obsession. The fact is CD's formulaic, pandering got called out. Now his fans arent even pretending it's about actual movie reviews anymore. Soon Will can stop pretending he actually cares about film and can go full mask off.
@drbubonic4942
@drbubonic4942 Ай бұрын
Whatever helps you sleep at night 😂
@johnmcternan4157
@johnmcternan4157 Ай бұрын
They all act like Stoic hardman until they're actually f****** rebutted
@ThoughtOuter
@ThoughtOuter Ай бұрын
Definitely agree it also seems like CD can't take criticism or even do a response video to anything Birdman addressed in his video towards him because he can't. Theres some concrete things in that video that CD will never answer to that are just blatant facts
@maskedman5657
@maskedman5657 26 күн бұрын
It's Amazing that Critical Drinker 🍖 orders will make full videos defending CDs grift when Critical Drinker can't even defend himself that well
@sandmancinema6859
@sandmancinema6859 25 күн бұрын
It's amazing that every pro woke YT will make a CD hit piece. And yet they all do the very thing they accuse CD of being. Shallow and biased grifters.
@gavinmyatt5589
@gavinmyatt5589 24 күн бұрын
I'm not surprised that they wouldn't have the balls to address any of Th3birdman's points. I mean you can't counter any of his points because he's correct.
@sandmancinema6859
@sandmancinema6859 23 күн бұрын
Yeah because that's how that works. Every time someone makes hit piece. You have to watch it and debunk it.
@gavinmyatt5589
@gavinmyatt5589 23 күн бұрын
@sandmancinema6859 Yes you fruitcake. If you don't watch it in its entirety you'll likely not know what the person is saying.
@They_Hit_The_Pentagon
@They_Hit_The_Pentagon 15 күн бұрын
@@sandmancinema6859if you think something’s wrong, 99% of people expect you to back up that claim, you can say literally anything but it doesn’t matter if nobody believes you. Saying this is just a hit piece and he’s wrong doesn’t mean anything unless you prove it, I would be saying the same thing to Birdman if he made a video just saying the critical drinker is dumb, and provided no reasoning or evidence.
@sandmancinema6859
@sandmancinema6859 15 күн бұрын
@@They_Hit_The_Pentagon Well its a good thing I made a video on his hit piece. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hYnciaJto6dnbJo
@acemagalor2519
@acemagalor2519 4 күн бұрын
I feel like at that point you’re just kind of admitting that you’re not interested in responding to criticism, which I feel shows a great deal of laziness
@sandmancinema6859
@sandmancinema6859 4 күн бұрын
Are you saying Drinker is that way? Yes after a million bad faith hit pieces. Your going to just say. No thanks and save yourself the headache. Which considering I've watched many of them. Including Birdmans, I don't blame him.
@acemagalor2519
@acemagalor2519 4 күн бұрын
@ that sort of the same kind of logic I’m talking about, what exactly about th3birdman’s critique would you say made it in bad faith? Or are you just going to say that it is and move on without examining it? Like I said, that to me, just shows a great deal of laziness
@sandmancinema6859
@sandmancinema6859 4 күн бұрын
@@acemagalor2519 Because I did a video on it. You can watch it if you want. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hYnciaJto6dnbJo
@dudewithachannel1163
@dudewithachannel1163 2 ай бұрын
I like that they didn't address any of Birdmans points and instead rambled for five minutes on people who blame Drinker for everything, or how Birdman is 'milking them for content' something he debunks in the video so you know they didn't even watch it lol
@sandmancinema6859
@sandmancinema6859 2 ай бұрын
Did you not watch the video? They said don't know who he is and are not interested in another CD hit piece. They didn't say Birdman did that with Drinker. But there alot of KZbinrs who make CD takedown videos. No if Birdman is milking anyone its Cinemasins. Over 200 videos.
@dudewithachannel1163
@dudewithachannel1163 2 ай бұрын
@sandmancinema6859, ignoring Birdman takes breaks from CinemaSins to go after small-time grifters like Drinker and flat-earthers, with how often they manipulate and lie about the things they talk about I wouldn't be surprised if this was just clipped footage of their podcast. Pardon me for not knowing it was edited lol
@sandmancinema6859
@sandmancinema6859 2 ай бұрын
@@dudewithachannel1163 So you don't think its obsessive to make over 200 videos on one creator? Especially one that no one takes seriously. And wow going after flat earthers, what a intellectual giant. Something tells your surprised and ignorant on alot of things. You've never watched a livestream before?
@dudewithachannel1163
@dudewithachannel1163 2 ай бұрын
@sandmancinema6859 , pause for a second, "one that no one takes seriously." You think people take Drinker seriously but not CinemaSins? They're basically on the same level of idiocy along with their audience, only difference is CinemaSins is more famous lol Anyway yeah, since CinemaSins has made thousands of videos and Birdman is iconic for critiquing them, he's got a lot of catching up to do. Honestly with the level of quality and time he puts into his content "200 ViDeO's 🤡" sounds a little short lol Also lol you had your point that he only clout chases debunked and now you're boo-hooing that we were talking about intelligence. I'd be surprised if Drinker couldn't debunk flat-earthers using basic brain function, that's how he reviews movies after all :P
@sandmancinema6859
@sandmancinema6859 2 ай бұрын
@@dudewithachannel1163 Is this a Birdman alt account? Because the glazing is just nauseating. Dude if your just going to write comments with zero substance. Than do yourself and me a favor and just stop. Its not convincing.
@manicpreacher1566
@manicpreacher1566 10 күн бұрын
Drinker who couldn't name a single Japanese film in discussion from late Hollywood. Who then 6 months later published his review of Everything Everywhere All At Once, praising Michelle Yeoh's performance. And, 13 months after that. Drinker would publish Why Modern Movies Suck The Strong Female Character. Never done a single Google search on Yeoh, her first 3 leading roles with D&B Films were released on Blu-ray. Why is that important? Because the modern strong female lead didn't begin with Disney because of some intersectional feminist conspiracy theory. It began with Michelle Yeoh all the way back 1985. Which then lead to the Girls With Guns action sub-genre. That then lead to things like Buffy and Trinity in the West after the decline of the Hong Kong film industry in the mid 90s. Why did it happen in Hong Kong in the 1980s? Because they were exporting so many action films. Women couldn't be treated as ineffectual and objects for men always needing rescued. Plus Hong Kong had a lot of anxiety around modernisation during that period. The same thing happened in the 2010s in Hollywood. Disney bought a lot of popular action IP, so they needed to make women more capable. Plus cultural anxieties. Woke Hollywood is a conspiracy theory. And Drinker helped create it. Michelle Yeoh fought a dude armed with a chainsaw in Royal Warriors for fuck sake. It saids more about yourself if your wee willy gets offended by Captain Marvel.
@sandmancinema6859
@sandmancinema6859 9 күн бұрын
The whole point is in the past on mass it was done better. Strong female characters were not done to preach, pander and check a box. And the direction, script and actors could actually pull it off. Unlike the majority of SFC Hollywood produces today. Now there are exceptions which CD points out. But those are the exceptions. Not the rule. But there is no point in arguing further with someone like you. Since your obviously delusional in saying woke Hollywood is a conspiracy theory. In 2025 you sound like a flat earther. Anyway good luck with that. Have a great day.
@manicpreacher1566
@manicpreacher1566 9 күн бұрын
@sandmancinema6859 pander? Oh you mean like those hyper feminist English dubs they done for Western export markets. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jou2o3-Pj7h6hsksi=lonwzZsOK3J3arhI
@manicpreacher1566
@manicpreacher1566 9 күн бұрын
@sandmancinema6859 Not deleting comments? I don't think posting a trailer for a 1988 female empowerment gender swapped police academy movie produced by Jackie Chan doesn't violate terms of service. Be very strange if this comment disappeared... kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZ6Zioewo7V9qcksi=auJO1q01hrTDoXeq
@justint8851
@justint8851 Ай бұрын
aw, what's wrong Billy can't take what you dish out.
@ThoughtOuter
@ThoughtOuter Ай бұрын
They didn't address any of Birdman's points at all and a lot of them were solid points with FACTS. This is exactly why i unfollowed Critical Drinker
@sandmancinema6859
@sandmancinema6859 Ай бұрын
They were just answering the superchat about Birdman's hitpiece. They didn't watch the hit piece. Which they say in this video. I put in the small segment of Birdmans for context. I thought the hit-piece wasn't good. And I made a video debunking it if you are curious.
@GoldCrotalus
@GoldCrotalus 29 күн бұрын
Birdbrain didn't present any "facts". The Aristocratic Utensil absolutely shredded his disingenuous ass to pieces, twice.
@sandmancinema6859
@sandmancinema6859 29 күн бұрын
​@@GoldCrotalus And Sitch and Adam did a video on his new videos about Grifters. Spoilers it might be worse than CD his hit piece. Dude is such a joke. He's a full blown lefty that thinks he's an enlightened centrist that only follows facts and logic.
@GoldCrotalus
@GoldCrotalus 29 күн бұрын
​@@sandmancinema6859 Speaking of that, I actually left a comment a few days ago on Utensil's second response to Birdbrain asking him if he would respond to it. He did one on a livestream on Rumble recently, but I would love to see an actual video response on KZbin.
@sandmancinema6859
@sandmancinema6859 29 күн бұрын
​@@GoldCrotalus I'm planning on doing one using Adam and Sitches video as a jumping off. Using parts of that stream and adding videos for context. Like for instance Birdboy uses a clip from Jermey from Geeks and Gamers talking about The Super Mario movie. That completely takes him out of context. Jeremy even made a video back when. Because others on twitter tried to do the same thing. Yet Birdboy is so dense he pulls the same con.
@PatrickWDunne
@PatrickWDunne 3 ай бұрын
Critical Drinker simps are really something. It's funny you call his video "politically biased" as if Drinker isn't pushing a political agenda.
@sandmancinema6859
@sandmancinema6859 3 ай бұрын
Drinker is Anti Woke. If you want to call that a political agenda fine. Its more people tired of a political agenda forced into there entertainment. But the reason I said that is because in his video. Birdman calls himself not political and only uses facts and logic. And really likes to harp on about how he is that. But its so hilariously obvious he's a full blown lefty.
@antoniofinotti8877
@antoniofinotti8877 3 ай бұрын
He isnt though. Hes addressed left and right wing shows and has had good and bad things to say about both. The closest you can get to saying hes political is that he doesnt like the idea of woke messaging in films. Where they force in certain left wing ideas in substitute of a proper story. Regardless of what you think of the word woke its undeniable that they do that. Since drinker reviews shows for their quality and they replace quality with woke its clear why he doesnt like it. Critical drinker is as apolitical as birdman pretends to be
@Voltroc
@Voltroc 3 ай бұрын
What's it like not being able to see that both of those things can be true at once?
@antoniofinotti8877
@antoniofinotti8877 3 ай бұрын
@@Voltroc if youre saying that they are both political no one said that wasnt an option. Its just not true
@VicecrackVoldermort
@VicecrackVoldermort 3 ай бұрын
​@@antoniofinotti8877 I can be really pedantic here. Politics with regards to which belief?
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