Onboard Barcelona: Real vs ACC vs iRacing

[@DavidPerel]

Ok Gents, because this somehow needs explaining... I know my FFB is clipping, because I set it there. Here’s my choice: play with light FFB and feel nothing or add some weight to the wheel and at least feel something. So I chose the latter. It depends on the car, for example the 911 GT3 Cup car I set the FFB strength lower but with the 488 I’ve resorted to cranking it up quite high. In general with iRacing I’ve yet to find a wheel combination which provides anything like the feedback I experience in real life... so I’ve given up trying on certain cars and just increase the force. Ok back to what you were doing 👍

[@brandonryan9582]

I can tell you DD bases feel exactly like real life, the feedback is amazing, you can feel the grips, the bumps, the slip, the slides, everything you get from a real car, except the G forces through your body obviously, and pedals go a long way in iRacing

[@DavidPerel]

Brandon Lee have you driven a 488 GT3 in real life?

[@brandonryan9582]

No, but I've driven an Aston Martin on a track day at Silverstone..

[@brandonryan9582]

And yes, I do know how a car feels, and a cheap wheel base, which I'm guessing you have accounts for your cheap ffb, what do you have? A Logitech? A thrustmaster?

[@DavidPerel]

Brandon Lee Road car or race car?

[@bazilio91]

Simracer lvl 99: in-game default livery with your name on it.

[@DannyGiusa]

Hey Dave, I watched your clips a while ago. You're totally right about the "attack" difference between ACC and iRacing. But a tip from my side (former iRacing Pro WCS driver), you need to utilize the brake more to turn the car in iRacing. iRacing, for whatever reason, relies much more on brake turning the car than every other sim. Personally from my perspective, as I work as instructor and also driving sportscars for a living, AC and ACC are more natural in the case of real driving style than iRacing, none the less each Sim offers a unique challenge and is therefore a beast of its own. Keep up with this content. Additional notes Side-by-Side comparison would be something that I like much more Same camera angels for every part of onboard cheers and have a great weekend!

[@DavidPerel]

Hey Danny, thanks so much for your advice man. Hugely appreciated! Thanks for watching my videos and taking the time to add such valuable comments. It means a lot mate 👊

[@whysoslow1999]

i personally have the feeling that mastering each sim is the best way to learn real racing to the maximum potential you can inside sims. As you said, each sim offers a unique challenge and has their quirks, and if you master them all, you can use the quirks and features of the different physics engines to drive the real car to the maximum potential of just simracing.

[@DannyGiusa]

@@DavidPerel I wish you a good winter and hopefully you get a drive for 2020. The market is so rough and oversaturated by people owning money but not the talent like you! Fingers crossed!

[@DannyGiusa]

@@whysoslow1999 totally agree, to learn different driving techniques, finding every aspect how to go fast in different sim/conditions/cars is the key to truely unfold your potential.

[@steppi27]

Hey Danny, cool dass du dir Zeit für so ein Video nimmst und fundiert kommentierst. "Kenne" dich noch von den 24h Kart-Rennen in Leipzig (SaxRacing und so). P. S. Daumen hoch für die Gulias im Banner deines Kanal.

[@HomieFFM]

Again, I really like this low seat position, would be really nice if you could talk about what you see in real life, we could all copy that into the sim, since most default positions are pretty high/user-friendly :). Cheers

[@DavidPerel]

Yea most FOV’s are right up against the windscreen which makes for a very boring KZbin video

[@NicoNice24]

I think copying a real seat position into a sim is only worth it if your setup is big enough or you're in VR. Doing that with a single monitor will have you missing half of the action I'm afraid.

[@DavidPerel]

My seat position in the replay is almost what I see in real life, excel we are a bit further back in the car.

[@HomieFFM]

@@DavidPerel thank you very much for answering :)

[@AdamIsailovic]

That ACC sound design is superb.

[@allyhaze8300]

Sounds a bit over the top

[@kieranforrest5263]

This is actually nice for me as I was practicing Barcelona last night. Very nice reference video

[@DavidPerel]

Happy to help :))

[@tobiecouillard7864]

Quite a difference in the racing lines in the last chicane from GTS. In GTS we plow our way through the curbs with 4 wheels on them, specially the last one. While you clip them smoothly the same way in those 3 laps.

[@DavidPerel]

Yea for sure. In GTS sausage curbs are just way to forgiving. If we plowed the curbs like that in RL we wouldn’t have a car left 😂

[@themisterymistery]

I legit bought ACC just to race as you. Keep up the awesome content!

[@notknowing8978]

Discovered your channel about a week ago and I've been binge watching your videos, and they're great. I've already set better lap times by watching you and paying attention to your tips! Thanks a lot!

[@DavidPerel]

No problem John, glad you’re enjoying them :)

[@zetaeerre0]

well it's not even fair comparing acc tyre model with iracing one..acc is on another level, massively more believable and realistic..i mean i never drove and never will drive a gt3 car, but the way acc actually feels, in both terms of pure ffb and physics, is pure simracing joy. and before anyone says i am a fanboy, i actually have way more hours in iracing than any other sim..

[@DavidPerel]

To be honest it’s 50/50 in terms of people’s opinion of which is better. Half the comments scream at me for comparing ACC to the “great” iRacing and the other half say the opposite. For me... I don’t know they both have good points and bad points.

[@zetaeerre0]

@@DavidPerel I'm happy enough to be able to discuss such things with someone who can give an opinion based on real racing like you 😊

[@nlmda101]

​@@DavidPerel Why 50/50?!? There are bunch of rF2 fans (tyre/ffb wise), including ex-real-racers and karting champions who prize rF2. Would be nice to hear you opinion someday (no rush ;) kzbin.info/www/bejne/fHfEnYBneMqod5I

[@nlmda101]

And while we at it, a few wish-list items from your viewers (and fans) : 1) please try to use same camera angels 2) don't leave us totally on our own, comment over some interesting moments during each video (if any). Thanks!

[@BigMeanyVids]

@@nlmda101 All sims have their value and their good bad points. They are just sims (games) so pick your poison. Important thing is you enjoy it. I don't care if say, one car is not quite like it's real-life counterpart if it's fun to drive. Tracks are probably where I more prefer the accuracy (and where accuracy is probably the best) as then I can relate more to when watching guys in real-life races attack a track as I have an understanding/appreciation for where it's difficult and why.

[@slowanddeliberate6893]

If iRacing allowed attacking the car like you said, I would personally be faster and have a higher iRating. I find it difficult in iRacing to be super precise due to the lack of seat of the pants that comes with real life driving.

[@erikvanderbijl6305]

For once I'm glad that they didn't simulate something in a Sim: The resonance coming from (what i'm guessing is) the interior.

[@DavidPerel]

Erik van der Bijl yea the vibration of loose parts (like the drivers net) can drive you nuts during long stints

[@Walt1119]

great video, enjoyed the comparison very much, thanks so much for sharing with us!

[@Rapid_GT]

Id say ACC looks the closest and funnily enough iRacing looked visually more arcade like, not sure why, Why wasn't GT Sport included this time DD ? Also i couldn't see a live time for the IRacing lap, ACC was pretty close to your 1:45 so the track sim for ACC looks to be good in that respect.

[@DavidPerel]

Yea ACC to me felt the best between the two. iRacing just felt a bit too dull for me and you have to be siiiiilky smooth to generate any kind of meaningful lap time. Real life is not that sensitive. Btw the iRacing lap was 1.43.5 I think.

[@mckseal]

Check out how the car moves over the bumps 2:07 vs 4:00 vs 5:50 ACC really nailed how the car moved. Also I think Iracing is simulating Michelin tires, ACC is using the Pirelli

[@HDRGamingHub]

Iracing is just a pile of shit :)

[@AndySimbaRacing]

@@DavidPerel looking at the readout top right in iRacing, the wheel was clipping a lot. I'm not saying iRacing would feel any better but clipping kills any feedback the game could give you.

[@Tintop]

@@HDRGamingHub :'D

[@XCougar85X]

ACC is making iRacing feel very dated

[@whysoslow1999]

Wish Kunos would make a proper online system so i could switch from iRacing to ACC atleast when i want to race GT3 or Porsche cup. But no. Kunos wants to do their own shitty online system. Im still sticking with iRacing, but hotlapping in ACC is alot of fun.

[@XCougar85X]

@@whysoslow1999 Well i gues iRacing has their systemt patented som competitors would have to make a different system. For me personally have dropped iRacing a while ago. It does not really fit my limited time i have and to be honest, lots of empty series. And having to pay a sub + buy stuff? Sorry but i am done with that. I will do one or the other, but not both. And having so many other racing titles i can enjoy like ACC, PC2, DR2.0 i just don't feel the need for iRacing atm, but that is also largely because i am not racing online much lately.

[@DavidPerel]

y e e t s I do the same, hot laps in ACC and online with iRacing

[@gdoumit]

It really is, but I still prefer it over ACC because the online is just much better. I tried playing ACC and it seems like most servers are in Europe and they have such a small population. Several times I logged in and there were only about 300 racers online, where iRacing always seems to sit around 5k online. I enjoy the feel and the look of ACC much more then iRacing, but I want to race online more and I want to compete without being forced into joining a league. Yes iRacing is more expensive by a long shot, but the multiplayer in and of itself is just far better.

[@XCougar85X]

@@gdoumit Yeah the way iRacing is setup is hard to beat unless they make something similair.

[@bobbychilds3080]

Not only is the tire model in iRacing part of the issue (NTMv7 is much better), IMO they have the BoP on the Ferrari wrong. All they seem to care about is equalizing lap times for the fastest drivers on the service, so they removed downforce and compensated by removing drag. To me that's why you can't "attack" the corners in iRacing as you stated.

[@FaithHopeLove77]

Great stuff David. Really like your commentary about the driving tool

[@DavidPerel]

Thank you CH

[@RezaShaheedKhan]

Great Stuff... I really enjoy listening to you and see these kinds of comparison videos. Thank you.

[@DavidPerel]

Thanks for watching Reza

[@PilotMan1944]

Hey I notice your forcefeedback is clipping a lot in the iracing video. You should think about turning The ff Down a bit. The red bar in the right upper corner

[@DavidPerel]

The FFB in general in iRacing is the thing I hate the most. Doesn't matter where I set it, the FFB is so dull... (yes I've tried DD's as well). Appreciate the feedback.

[@adamkonstantinou3443]

@@DavidPerel Turn it down from inside the game so it wont clip, and then you can raise it from the wheel program to whatever level you feel like.

[@shebeski]

@@adamkonstantinou3443 Dude he doesn't understand basic math, it's almost pointless.

[@DavidPerel]

adam konstantinou thanks Adam, I am aware and often play around with the setting. For example in the GT3 Cup car I run a very low FFB. It’s only in *this session and *this lap where I turned it all the way up. If you watch my previous iRacing videos you’ll see no clipping. Appreciate the feedback.

[@DavidPerel]

Michael Shebeski 2+2=5?

[@guidofoc7057]

Thanks for these videos! This is the best insight we sim racers can get from a real driver.

[@XBOW83]

Great video, very instructive. Thank you 👍 This difference of feeling Iracing / Acc was accentuate on Porsche cup for me

[@jacksonueland]

would love to hear more commentary on your opinions of them

[@xSLONGJEFFx]

great video, After the individual laps you could put all 3 laps side by side to compare, be fun.

[@DavidPerel]

I need to pay for some premium software to do so. That’s in the budget for January:)

[@sky194]

Great video, I enjoy racing your AI in ACC.

[@1xRacer]

Purchased a ps4 and gt sport thanks for another addiction 😂, it isnt as "simulationy" as iracing but it sure is a lot of fun.

[@angryginger791]

I sold my PS4 when I got my PC to buy more sim stuff. Now I kinda miss it because I loved GTS. Like you said, not as "sim", but it's still a ton of fun. With some games going cross-platform, I'm hoping one day Polyphony will open up the GT series to PC. Not holding my breath though...

[@1xRacer]

@@angryginger791 ps5 will be completely backwards compatibile and have a year so save. Iracing is so serious I really appreciate how mentally I approach and feel in gt sport it's really no wonder it's so popular.

[@scotttakahashi3475]

Coach David! Have a question, do you workout? If so, what kind of workouts do you do? Great video! I hope I can get a session in before the holidays!

[@DavidPerel]

Hey Scott, yes I do, 2hrs per day when I’m in London. First 4km run, then 20mins body weigh exercise, then 10min run, then the rest of the time I spend in the pool and the sauna :)

[@scotttakahashi3475]

David Perel, thank you! Happy holidays!

[@levi859]

I watch all your videos keep them coming I think when you do these comparisons you should use the same camera angles it would show off the realism of the SIM

[@pookieluvva]

It's a shame the graphics settings in ACC had been turned down, it really is a stunning sim when all the bells and whistles are enabled.

[@DavidPerel]

I think it was the quality of my recording, but I’m not running the absolute MAX on ACC either as I do sometimes get some stuttering when recording these vids.

[@pookieluvva]

@@DavidPerel Understandable. Excellent comparison nonetheless.

[@zootalk]

Hi David, I suggest next time you use the F6 camera in ACC, choose the one which is similar to the real world angle from the real footage. It will help us more in making the comparison.

[@DavidPerel]

I thought about it but the angle is worse imo. I’ll keep it from the drivers in the sim laps for now.

[@townnet]

Hi David, I can't really judge from your real life video sound. Is ACC sound close to real thing or the sound is overdone?

[@uyou2tube]

I’d love to see you do this with GTSPORT

[@DavidPerel]

That was the plan mate but I’m having recording issues with my PS4 and Elgato. Specifically with the sound.

[@cflux1030]

Recently got ACC and really love racing against you and there might have been someone sent to the shadow realm shhhh

[@DavidPerel]

😂 my car/character in the game has been known to be a bit aggressive

[@cflux1030]

@@DavidPerel Hope that doesn't reflect your real life driving lol

[@alexanderulv3886]

@@cflux1030 Well it would suit his more aggressive attack driving style. And ACC is knows for realism and working close with real racers to make the AI accurate 😂

[@timwhiskerd2133]

Hello Dave, Q1 What are your thoughts on the sound of the games (engine , gbox, brakes, rumble strips etc., which is most convincing for you? Q2 What can you smell when driving, oil, brakes, fumes ? Does the smell change when you follow others. Thanks for such interesting videos and reports. Best Regards.

[@DavidPerel]

Hey Tim, 1) The ancillary sounds from ACC are more accurate, but for the engine, the sound in iRacing is more accurate. I prefer ACC for the sounds though, especially the sound under braking of the pads on the disc (no other game does this). 2) Difficult to explain, you smell a lot of things, mostly brakes and hot tires. The worse smell for me is carbon brakes when I drive a Ferrari Challenge car, that smell can make me sick.

[@timwhiskerd2133]

Hi David, Thats interesting to hear about. I wonder why the carbon smells bad, may be they could think about steel brakes in the longer term. BR Tim

[@simonecorfini3628]

Yeah really good video Dave! :) I know it's abit complicated but could/would you do a video with driving styles and difference between real and sim? Obviously there're TONS of variables that affects sims (in general) but it would be interesting the approach that you have with sims from real driving style :)

[@RealWitblitz]

Hi David. I've been going through the comment section but can't find the relevant info. The camera point-of-view from your ACC lap, is that the actual view you use while driving? Or did you adjust it just for this video? I'm trying to gauge how I can set up my view to reflect something you would use. Which makes sense, no? Would it be possible to show us a screenshot of your view settings inside the 488? Baie dankie!

[@aukehaarsma]

Great vid again!

[@matthewalbers6366]

great video - any reason you are typically shifting earlier in iracing than ACC? (ACC you are typically red lining and shifting / IR you seem to mostly be shifting at the last yellow light)

[@BalanceProper]

You should more of those videos , for Those of us really trying to het better at sim racing they are very useful

[@advantist]

Excuse me for asking, but I would like to know if the Ferrari 488 GT3 retains it's brake booster/power brakes?

[@DavidPerel]

Hi Zarvex, not sure I understand the question. Do you mean from the road car? The 488 GT3 uses a very different system. I can say that the pedal is very stiff 🙈

[@advantist]

@@DavidPerel I was asking if the GT3 version had power brakes, (power brakes makes braking easier) and since you said the pedal is very stiff, I would assume it doesn't. Thanks for the help!

[@KFanVid]

Hello David, I noticed that all the air conditioning vents are kept in the race car. I know that probably no racing machine would carry an actual air conditioning unit, but I'm curious to know if these vents do anything--are they specifically routed to direct air into the cabin? Also, I wonder how hot it gets in there when a race is held during the summer. Does it ever get unbearable? Thanks!

[@DavidPerel]

Air conditioning is a requirement in GT cars and in series like WEC and ELMS they even dictate the limit of the temperature inside the car. So those vents are there for a reason. But when I drive I hate it when it’s too cold in the car (ok it’s not that cold, usually around 30deg). When I raced in Suzuka last year the AC wasn’t working and it got over 50degC inside the car. That was incredibly tough. Don’t want to experience that again 😂

[@FG_SIMRACING]

Hi David, 23/06/2020 Assetto Corsa Competizione will come to Playstation 4. I have a Thrustmaster T300 RS. How do you think the force feedback will be on Assetto Corsa Competizione together with Thrustmaster T300 RS on Playstation 4 ? Best regards

[@DavidPerel]

Your guess is as good as mine mate

[@theanswer00]

Hey Dave! Great driving, as always! Will you ever give a shot at the formula1 games? I'd love to see how your experience translates onto faster cars

[@DavidPerel]

Maybe mate, but I’m not a huge fan of them and I couldn’t tell you how close they are to the real thing because I’ve never driven one. My aim here is to inform people on the realism of sims vs GT3 cars.

[@theanswer00]

@@DavidPerel you do a great job at that mate 😉

[@djsierra8696]

Hi David! Great video, thank you very much. The lap time in real life and in ACC is the same, but in Iracing it's somewhat lower. It seems that the Iracing version of the 488 is faster, are Iracing cars always faster (and less accurate)? Keep it up, greetings from Spain!

[@NeTiTrea]

So you were using the Safe preset template for the ACC ? There is a noticable difference and I highly recommend you to use by default the aggresive one at least for most of us noobies it gives us a better perfomance not by much somewhat around 0.5 to max of 1 second.

[@DavidPerel]

I was using the default setup with 30L of fuel

[@tgiencke]

Hi David, IRL telemetry question? Beyond the 6 primary channels (RPM, wheel speed x4, throttle position, steering angle, lat & long acceleration) do you find the need to have suspension (shock) position and the math channels that use suspension position? Or are you good with only the primary 6 channels?

[@DavidPerel]

Hey Todd, the car has probably 50 sensors which the engineers look at but I only focus on braking, throttle, revs, speed trace, gears, sometimes yaw and sometimes damping. The other stuff I leave to people who are smarter than me.

[@jordanos.biggus]

Great video! 😉

[@aubreys1111]

Proud of you David. Sacred geometry - One love

[@DavidPerel]

Tucker you legend

[@andyholmes9485]

What's your controls setting in % on ACC for road? Thanks

[@OPgiSh0tzonYT]

Thoughts on Project CARS 2? (If any) Edit: Also, would you ever get an F1 game?

[@DavidPerel]

In my opinion PC2 is the worst of the sims. They tried to do too many things. I prefer GT Sport to PC2. The F1 Games are fun but they’re not really simulators.

[@OPgiSh0tzonYT]

@@DavidPerel Yes, totally agree with you. I have PC2, but it and Assetto Corsa are the only sims I have, so I play it. I hope PC3 will be better. Also, when playing with a controller (which I do), the single player experience (controls) are totally different than the multiplayer ones. It is very strange.

[@EarthIsFlat456]

@@OPgiSh0tzonYT “I hope PC3 will be better" Oops..

[@OPgiSh0tzonYT]

@@EarthIsFlat456 lol, yeah I've gotten a lot more sims since this, so luckily the only thing that bothers me about PC3 is the fact that they are milking the franchise name, when it's nothing like the first two

[@johnlau8461]

can you tell us that how s your drivinig style differ from real life and in different games?

[@DavidPerel]

In iRacing you have to be super smooth. In the others I can be a bit more aggressive with my steering inputs. My driving style is clear to see in this comparison vid :)

[@krzysztofmajda2386]

That’s what others say, but doesn’t both games have too small margin of error? I mean they slide too easily? IRacing has been known to have too much snap oversteer.

[@johnlau8461]

@@DavidPerel ok... thx David

[@BigMeanyVids]

@@krzysztofmajda2386 Yeah, iracing requires smoother inputs for whatever reason. I guess the tire model, dunno. Took me a good while to get to grips with it honestly but I don't mind it now that I am. I guess that gives it a slight minus for realism compared to ACC but it's a game so oh well. :)

[@andkirby7]

2 seconds faster in iR? It’s a huge difference.

[@ShinjukuSensei]

Hopefully not a silly question, but is the pov set to replicate real life, or optimum for sim, accounting for monitor size and distance etc?

[@DavidPerel]

I don’t use my screen as a window to the world. I prefer to set it to what I see when I’m sitting in the car, hence the wheels and hands in the video.

[@ShinjukuSensei]

David Perel thanks boss!

[@Gorilla_Jones]

iRenting looks like a game from 2000 and the FOV is way off.

[@Kev84M]

Pretty sure he has it dialed back with his settings, I run a Pimax 5K+ on it in VR and it looks and runs great. By far the best implementation of VR out of any title. On the other hand ACC is pretty much unusable in VR.

[@001sander2]

Weird how iRacer pivots along the center like a boat when you’re on kerbs

[@lexuslfa4739]

I racing looks like you’re carrying more speed braking later and getting in the throttle early, ACC looks somewhat more natural

[@stanettiels7367]

Nice comparison. Stay safe 👍🏻👍🏻.

[@Jason911_]

Would be pretty cool if you became a dedicated sim racing coach for an Esports team (Similar to what they do in Rocket League)

[@MARCO-rq2ph]

in ACC there s the animation of the foot that follow the moviment of the real foot

[@brimalion8331]

Hey David ! Nice drive as always ! May I ask what are your view settings in ACC ? I want to try to drive with the kind of FOV you have in a real GT3 car ! Thanks in advance !

[@DavidPerel]

I need to take a look mate, I’ll mention it in my next live stream :)

[@brimalion8331]

@@DavidPerel Note sure if I will be able to be around cause I'm not from Europe (can be tricky with time zone) but I will watch the replay on KZbin. Wasn't sure if I would get an answer cause this video is 1 month old already. Thanks a lot ! Looking forward for the next stream !

[@HDRGamingHub]

David , your ffb is clipping in Iracing !

[@loko5516]

Hi, do you think about doing Lewis Hamilton's challenge DLC?

[@DavidPerel]

Seems fun but it’s basically just hot lapping with a ghost.

[@loko5516]

@@DavidPerel ok, fair enough.

[@KeeganLeahy]

Was the iRacing lap with the updated tire model? Also your FFB is clipping really bad

[@DavidPerel]

The 488 doesn’t have the new tire model yet

[@850t5m]

I'm curious... Is your assessment of iRacing a general statement? I'm wondering how much your perception of how the game seems to require you to be more smooth is a result of the "custom setup".

[@DavidPerel]

The custom setup allows me to be a bit more aggressive. With the default setup you have to be even smoother. iRacing requires Jenson Button levels of smooth driving.

[@NotoriousDre]

So you would rank GT Sport up there? Wich to use to actually get better in real life by sim racing? 1,2,3? 😊 Just to pick your brain.

[@DavidPerel]

I would use ACC when it comes to Barcelona

[@NotoriousDre]

@@DavidPerel Thanks! And overall? 😇

[@racer14glr91]

The first FOV is all wrong! 🤣🤣🤣🤪

[@aboriani]

Hey David, may I suggest you a thing? Turn down that FFB in iRacing... it's clipping in almost every turn. Maybe that is why you needed to be smooth with the driving style, because of the lack of feedback during the turns...

[@DavidPerel]

The way I see it is that there’s almost no feedback in iRacing anyway so I might as well turn up the weight of the steering to be closer to the Ferrari. At least I get some kind of feeling that way 😎

[@brunofgallo]

Hey mate, nice one! Can you please drop a quick line here giving an insight on GT Sport as well, in a similar setup? Do you consider it a good / close enough simulator? Cheers from Oz

[@DavidPerel]

I’m a huge fan of GT Sport mate, I just couldn’t include it in this video because of a sound issue with the recordings.

[@brunofgallo]

David Perel great to hear that, it’s the one I play on PS4 Pro - love it. I’ve been following your channel, awesome stuff! Cheers

[@lextrueno]

COACH DAVE BACK AGAIN

[@SyaifulAriffin]

You need a high end simulator equipment to get the 'slower' laptime / almost same comparison. Get in using VR and more FOV camera tweaks. Its very difficult but the satisfaction is far far away from GTS & ACC I recommend this :- Direct Drive SIMUCUBE 2 Ultimate Loadcell Pedals - eg Heusinkveld Sim Pedals Ultimate. OR Fanatec V3 at least Oculus VR and some Buttkickers

[@DavidPerel]

None of these are necessary in my opinion. I spend a lot of time on high end rigs to help calibrate them and for me the only thing I need is a belt driven wheel on a stable platform. The rest is nice to have kit but nothing more. (In my opinion)

[@stevesracingbits]

Correct David, I have a full motion sim, sprint pedals, Leo bodnor wheel basically 20k worth and I have just built a budget sim for a friend with fanatec v3 pedals TM T300RS and a rs1 chassis and I am just as fast with that setup as I am on my own

[@Tintop]

@@stevesracingbits yepp.. we don't buy this stuff to get faster.. we buy it because it just feels cooler and actually IS a lot cooler :-D

[@philipminnaar6663]

Can't wait for Kyalami to come to ACC, going to be a blast. (btw is there a Kyalami onboard vid coming? :D)

[@DavidPerel]

Kyalami is awesome :D No onboard story though as the damn camera didn't record a single thing from the race :(

[@alex-vu3gv]

@@DavidPerel aww thats a shame, the weather during the race looked quite impressive on stream

[@anidiotinaracingcar]

I'd love to hear you commenting along the laps

[@DavidPerel]

I am thinking about doing that for the next comparison video :)

[@anidiotinaracingcar]

@@DavidPerel Cool!

[@MyGermo]

iRacing FOV is incorrect...

[@DavidPerel]

It's correct for me :)

[@MyGermo]

@@DavidPerel LOL, there is no correct fov for you and different correct for me. there is only correct or not. and if you cant see the huge difference between ACC and iRacing FOV settings, you are half blind. Cheers :)

[@DavidPerel]

Sasha Black sure pal 👌 the FOV police have a position open, I would consider applying

[@steve196134]

I know this is an old video, but man theres a few out there that have negative comments. Why ? I thought it was a good video. David you cant please everyone. Im still on the fence. ACC vs Iracing . ?

[@dekker8178]

Hey David when is the next time you will be in the USA?

[@DavidPerel]

Not sure mate, I haven't been to the USA since 2014 :)

[@Daniele-md6sm]

su acc il suono l hanno inventato,quegli scoppietti in rilascio dove li hanno presi?spero sblocchino il gioco ai modder molto presto

[@JayEnz]

Watching iracing always makes me feel like the cars have flat tyres.

[@DavidPerel]

And sometimes it feels like that too 😂

[@whysoslow1999]

youre kind of right. Good iRacing setups are always minimum tyre pressure (like 110 psi) and extremely loose suspension. Although that is changing a bit with NTMv7, which is the new tyre model they are rolling out a few cars at a time. Not in GT3 cars yet.

[@bobbychilds3080]

Yeah, NTM is fixing that

[@benchadwickleeds]

Are you referring to how still the drivers head is? I found the setting that changes how well the drivers head/neck absorbs bumps. Turned the setting right down and now theres loads of vibration when I drive the lotus 79. Obviously not as much vibration with tin tops

[@S25117]

El coche real se ve mas ágil, cuando mete volante el coche gira d verdad, no se va recto

[@Voevoden]

Coach Dave!

[@channelvr1293]

Nice one... I really think you slide less in real life then in the Sim... Also you seem to be more aggressive in the real car. It's like in the real car even in this video I can see there is more mass to the real car then the Sims... Weird.. And I watched this 6 times.. 🤔

[@DavidPerel]

Yea I’m not sure why Sims exaggerate the sliding so much. Especially iRacing which requires you to be sooooooooo gentle to the point of frustration.

[@martinoberg4883]

Amazing how you didn’t even touch the brakes in the real life video ;)

[@DavidPerel]

Haha yea, the brake sensor is not accurate with these cameras, so we don’t connect them

[@Kaze919]

Wow, the gratuitous backfires on braking in ACC sound SOOOO lame. Especially because its the same looped sound effect every time.

[@DavidPerel]

I have given them feedback on this effect, I think it will be removed from the 488 because in real life we don't have it. But some of the other cars do have a snap crackle pop, so maybe for those it's more relevant.

[@seanstewart4815]

@@DavidPerel Thank you, the popcorn thing was really distracting especially since the real life onboard directly preceded it.. that being said, ACC is impressive as always and visually much more interesting than iRacing. As always, the real life onboard is the coolest haha thanks for another great onboard video!

[@lonniekane2036]

I like the race against you on PlayStation for Gran Turismo sport

[@enes77771]

Are you seeing like this on cockpit? i mean your sitting position on assetto 😁👍🏻

[@DavidPerel]

Yes, although in real life we probably sit a fraction lower and definitely further back. But I can’t go further back in both iRacing or ACC, it unleashes bugs which would make these videos flood with comments about the seat instead of the laps.

[@enes77771]

David Perel i was always wondering real race drivers perspective on cockpit, so thanks

[@1970cgb]

Acc everytime for me

[@osmagom]

And rf2 vs real?

[@DavidPerel]

Not sure, I suspect pretty good 😁

[@TimothySBurnes]

Right on m8

[@MendicantBias1]

iRacing uses a 60hz FFB signal. Unfortunately turning up the FFB strength in an attempt to feel anything results in clipping. irFFB helps, but iRacing should have more FFB options, 60hz is basic at best. ACC uses a default 333hz signal and an excellent tire model/physics engine with a modern graphics engine (UE4).

[@ebatalha]

Sadly we still don’t have this Ferrari in GTS…

[@MrPeteRR299]

Acc sound ❤

[@jesuscanuto]

Una comparación poco ilustrativa a nivel de gráficos y sonido. El canal merece algo más de nivel.

[@DavidPerel]

Gracias Jesús

[@XxSniperFiendxX]

Me trying to debate wether the first footage was real life or a game 😂😳nah it’s real life

[@KevinChangSuiFat]

Guys, if you would like to see a comparison, I've made a video side by side, you check it here : kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y6HEhWmDbs6ahsk

[@shebeski]

Also, to continue on just how badly you've set up iRacing, do you even have a direct drive wheel? If not, you shouldn't be using Linear mode period. I'm on a TS-PC racer and I can barely manage Linear mode because most of the driving input will then be too soft for most inputs outside of bashing curbs and crashes. Sure, it works and high speed high downforce corners will start to max the wheel out, but generally the low and medium forces aren't loud enough because Thrustmaster wheels don't have enough peak force to utilize Linear mode correctly. Linear was designed for wheels with like 10nm of force or more. No Thrustmaster as more than 6.4nm, so you're really gonna have to deal with softer over all forces if you run Linear. I know you're running linear because red bars don't show up otherwise. If you're on a Thrustmaster wheel of any kind, or on a CSL Elite and below, turn off Linear mode and it will bump up all the feedback of the low and medium forces but keep the max forces similar. Again, get your setup sorted, because your opinions on how iRacing feel are just cringe at this point.

[@mmmarac]

ACC all the way

[@alpay_z_7025]

man your iracing ffb is clipping alot

[@DavidPerel]

The way I see it is that there’s almost no feedback anyway so I might as well turn up the weight of the steering to be closer to the Ferrari. At least I get some kind of feeling that way 😎

[@karolinaolejnicka8576]

Your FFB in iRacing is clipping.

[@DavidPerel]

I am aware;)

[@whysoslow1999]

​@@DavidPerel i think that is making your opinion of iracing ffb being "dull" (which i agree with to some extent) even worse. When it is clipping, the FFB is COMPLETELY numb when youre turning. Its just a smooth force pulling the wheel towards the middle. If it wasnt clipping, you could feel some detail while turning.

[@DavidPerel]

y e e t s as you’ve seen in previous videos my wheel isn’t clipping in those. So, I’m aware of what I’ve set it to mate, I promise.

[@The_Devil_Riser]

The problem is that although racing drivers push the limits they also have many real officials watching their every move, in acc and more so iracing (because of the online nature) they can’t afford that so they have to find clever ways to implement track limits like on the old games when you would spin if you cut the track, obviously more advanced these days, and after writing that I’ve forgotten the point that I was getting to 🤪😂😂😂

[@DavidPerel]

😂

[@bupper521]

Are you South African bro?

[@DavidPerel]

100% bru! 🇿🇦

[@bupper521]

@@DavidPerel One love mybru keep up the strong work and repping of the country✊✊

[@la_serge21]

ACC is closer to reality

[@brandonryan9582]

Dude you need a better wheel, you're over steering like crazy,

[@DavidPerel]

A wheel won’t change that mate, your equipment in sim racing is not the ultimate factor in lap time

[@brandonryan9582]

Yes it is, my stats on iRacing prove it, last years Le Mans 24, I set my best lap (with cheap thrustmaster pedals) a 3:56:500, when I got my new pedals and fanatec DD base, I went back to Le Mans and in my first practice session I did a 3:47:800. So idc what you say, cheap pedals equal cheap lap times