Once Saved, Always Saved? | Andrew Farley

[@Humilityismyaim]

Amen Andrew. It is called "Salvation", not Probation.

[@bettycarmella1127]

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[@Humilityismyaim]

@Zell dincht Why s it called Salvation? Not Probation then. It is God who does the saving, for faith in Christ and his work on the cross. For his blood bought us who believe, or do you contend that the blood of Jesus still isn't enough? Heb 7:25 Consequently, he is able to save to the uttermost those who draw near to God through him, since he always lives to make intercession for them. Joh 10:28 I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. Joh 10:29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand. Joh 10:30 I and the Father are one.” Eph 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, Eph 2:9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast. To trust in repentance instead is "Unbelief", Col 2:10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power: Col 2:11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ: Col 2:12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead. Col 2:13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses; Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; Col 2:15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it. Rom 3:21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; Rom 3:22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: Rom 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Rom 3:24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Rom 3:25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; Rom 3:26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.

[@Humilityismyaim]

​@Zell dincht Tell me , can a dead man sin? Gal 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified. Gal 2:17 But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, is therefore Christ the minister of sin? God forbid. Gal 2:18 For if I build again the things which I destroyed, I make myself a transgressor. Gal 2:19 For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God. Gal 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. Gal 2:21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

[@Humilityismyaim]

@Zell dincht This covers the argument about sin in the body as well....Rom 7:20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me. Rom 7:21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me. Rom 7:22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man: Rom 7:23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. Rom 7:24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? Rom 7:25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin. Rom 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. Rom 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life has set you free in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and death. Rom 8:3 For God has done what the law, weakened by the flesh, could not do. By sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh,

[@Humilityismyaim]

@Zell dincht Your better off stating "I don't believe in saving grace" I like what I can do for God more satisfying to my ego, than to trust in Christ Jesus and his blood spilled for me on the cross." All your argument here is based on what Jesus said to the Jew under the law/ the circumcision. Rom. 15:8, Matt. 9:35, Matt. 10:5 And none of the Apostle to the Gentiles who declares what the 12 could not say as ministers to Israel...Rom_6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace. Rom_6:15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid. Gal_5:18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

[@minagelina]

Once saved always saved is the only thing that makes sense to me. It separates a relationship from a religion. If you could lose your salvation, then it is just do's and don'ts again. That's why following Christ is so radical. I hate even calling it Christianity, because that is still seen as a religion.

[@Humilityismyaim]

So right! Salvation is a God thing, and religion is a man thing. One is heavenly, the other earthly. Who can undo what God has done? If we are disobedient he chastises us, he doesn't cast us away. He is the ultimate loving Father. And Christ Jesus, the ultimate Savior, brother and friend.

[@Humilityismyaim]

@@jasonchristian958 Rom 4:5 And to the one who does not work but believes in him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted as righteousness, Rom 10:4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.

[@Humilityismyaim]

@@jasonchristian958 SO your saying that the Grace of God is sending people to hell? I assume you put your cross down to surf the internet, sorry for you. Rom 11:6 But if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works; otherwise grace would no longer be grace. Eph 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, Eph 2:9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast. Eph 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them. Gal 2:21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

[@Humilityismyaim]

@@jasonchristian958 Gal 3:2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?

[@Humilityismyaim]

@@jasonchristian958 I got saved and filled with the Holy Spirit just like Cornelius did...Acts 10:44, when I heard Paul's gospel 1Co 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 1Co 15:4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

[@bettycarmella1127]

Thank you Jesus it is FINISHED!!🙌👏👏🙏💫💥✨☝

[@theresaplash2462]

Andrew u are a blessing. Listening to u teach us with the word, give us joy!! no condemnation in Christ!!!

[@amandachristian895]

It's not called ETERNAL life for nothing

[@bettycarmella1127]

Hey sis Amanda!!❤🙏💜🌼🌹🌺

[@GodsTruthMinistries]

Amen Amanda!

[@Harpazo_to_Yeshua]

@@rosie9650 We who are currently Born again of the Holy Spirit of God are now eternally saved, for the Spirit of God is outside of time and since our new Heart is outside of time, there's no *waiting* to have eternal life now. Eternal Life is every moment now for those born of the Holy Spirit of God. This flesh is in time, yes, but this flesh is corrupted and will fall away one day; it cannot be saved. It is the Heart (of the Holy Spirit within) that is Safe in Christ Jesus now and cannot be lost. Eternal Salvation is present for those Born of the Holy Spirit of God. 1 John 5:11-13 -- "And this is the record, that *God hath given to us eternal Life,* and this Life is in His Son. He that hath the Son hath Life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not Life. These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may *know that ye have eternal Life,* and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God." Notice John says we HAVE (presently) eternal Life, not "will have" in the future. It is current (eternally) -> today. :)

[@spartafarm]

@@rosie9650 That is not a correct interpretation of Heb 10:39. Do you see the word phrase "but we aren't" ?? We who are saved aren't people who pull back and are destroyed. Aren't. Aren't. Aren't. What part of aren't do you not understand? Listen to Andrew's presentation again and actually listen this time.

[@spartafarm]

@Patrick Quinn I thought in the post you made you typed it is (it's) possible for christians to lose their salvation (pull back). My interpretation is that a christian is a true believer. If someone pulls back, they are not a christian. We're talking in circles perhaps. I think we agree and are not using the right words.

[@deanndelprato3937]

Thank you Andrew for delivering the gospel goods! So freeing! Grace makes me want to sin less..so true!!

[@BrotherDave80]

"sealed until the day of redemption"... need to say more?

[@bettycarmella1127]

Amen🙌👏👏🙏

[@Harpazo_to_Yeshua]

Yes, Ephesians 4:30 ! :) Also: 1 John 5:11-13 -- "And this is the record, that *God hath given to us eternal Life,* and this Life is in His Son. He that hath the Son hath Life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not Life. These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may *know that ye have eternal Life,* and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God." John says we HAVE eternal Life! Not "might have" in the future, if we somehow don't screw things up. lol :) Having eternal Life today means it cannot be lost, ever. Eternity is outside of time, therefore there's no certain amount of time for our Life (in Christ Jesus) to supposedly be at risk of being lost. Once Saved, certainly Always Saved! Saved = Safe!

[@omegatafkal]

A seal is not a 100 % guarantee

[@nathanburden6548]

Amen

[@ShawnGisler]

Amen!

[@dylantaylor8263]

Amen. Knowing that I’m secure in Jesus is a feeling that I don’t know how to express in words. Like if I wasn’t secure in Jesus then nothing else in the world would matter cuz without Christ I’d be completely lost and without hope. (What does it profit a man to gain the whole world but lose his soul) anyways, it’s always bothered me when ppl say that OSAS ppl just think it’s a free license to sin.... in my experience that couldn’t be further from the truth. For me, knowing that I’m eternally secure in Jesus makes me want to sin LESS and make more of an effort to be loyal to Jesus and fight against the the lusts of the flesh. I still mess up and sin (every day sadly) but knowing how loving and merciful Jesus is and knowing that I’m still eternally saved cuz of what he did for me makes it feel that much worse when I do sin and knowing how much grace and love and mercy he gives me on a daily basis it makes me want to be loyal to him. Trust that Jesus is who he says he is and that he did what he said he’d do ... every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is lord!

[@oscarbarcena6632]

Amen! Thank You for the revelation Dr Andrew,you are a blessing to the body of Christ.

[@luketrim2710]

I used to lose my salvation and get it back again at least 10 times a day...and I believed you can lose your salvation and lived in depression for 10 yrs...I was delivered and I always find it amazing those who preach you can lose your salvation believe it's always everyone else and never them and don't understand by the doctrine they teach they can be lost 5 mins from now

[@jayheinz4624]

I know how you felt Luke! I went through that similarly for over 30 years!! It's awful!! and I am happy to hear that you have found true 100% Grace in Christ now!! I have also!! 👍

[@keeploving5850]

The only times you would loose salvation would be when you disagree/deny/not believe in Jesus. But the thing is that I am saved and I know Jesus is the Truth because of the miracles I've experienced and the evidence helps a lot. But I will never go back to live for my own happiness. God forbid we get alzheimer's disease and forget our love for You. So, here is me, sure of living for God the rest of my life, but also, I have a free will. But I find it stupid to reject Christ now that I have knowledge of Him. I don't know these verses well. They say something like, you can get God's grace in vain. Could be that we can get salvation but if we loose it, it was all meaningless. And the other one will say, he who believes in Jesus will have everlasting life. What about the ones who believed and decided not to follow God? Or they will have everlasting life until when? Will God leave us once we deny Him? That question is easy to answer I think, but what do I know. They

[@decebaltrandafir]

I feel Andrew's passion when he talks about ASOS.

[@Paradicted]

Decebal Trandafir “ASOS” ???

[@TTundragrizzly]

@@Paradicted I think he meant OSAS. Once Saved always saved.

[@haileyholt5044]

Andrew you are a good Shepard. I walk away not thinking about how great Andrew is and wow this Andrew is really amazing! I walk away with a clearer and better way of thinking about God and relating to Him. You are a true authentic teacher who looks for no personal gain. Thank you.

[@georgepatterson4543]

Amen, pastor Farley thank you for explaining this truth of osas

[@nathanielbaker2987]

Amen

[@tylersoule6636]

I am so thankful!!!! Lord, you work in mysterious ways and you stand at the door of my heart knocking!!

[@citizenk.6989]

AMAZING GRACE INDEED!!!

[@jewelianrodrigues8347]

This is wonderful! Just the thing I needed to hear. It’s true that salvation makes us want to sin less. But it’s also true that we will be sinful throughout or lives. Even if we commit the same sin over and over again, in his eyes we are perfect. It is so touching to have Someone that overlooks everyone of your flaws, just because you love and believe in him. It’s just like having a parent. In a perfect world every parent will forgive ones mistakes over and over again. That is what God does for us. That is what Jesus does for. I thank Him everyday for what he has given to me, and to all of us believers. God bless ❤️

[@lisam.3310]

Jewelian Rodrigues Amen! Praise Jesus 🙏🏻✝️🙌🏻

[@brotherhype-maninchristjes2766]

+Andrew Farley Ministries Praise the LORD if i wasn't saved,lost,confused in religion and believed i could lose my salvation (i.e. the same condition i was in when i was unsaved) and i just simply listened and watch this great man of God video.......that would have been the straw that broke the camel's back and right then and there i would have believed !!!!!!! praise God !!!!!!! once saved always saved. God bless. Agape love

[@jayheinz4624]

That's great, that's what it's all about!! 👍

[@vincentcaruso3832]

Hey wretched knucklehead in Christ Jesus, I watch a lot of your videos, God Bless you my Brother in Christ.

[@LearningRest]

Man, what a message! How does it only have 9K views?!

[@robertdavis2147]

Praise Jesus he is Lord!!! His grace brings me to tears

[@LouLouLion]

What person would dislike this?

[@susanroffman1612]

Heather Brown -those who see that OSAS is the devil’s biggest lie would NOT like this video!! The Bible confirms. No man can take us away but God gives free will and we do have the self will to leave him. God gives us free will. 2 Timothy 3:6 He must not be a re ENT convert or he may be one conceited and fall under the SAME JUDGEMENT AS THE DEVIL.

[@kjvacp]

@@susanroffman1612 quite suprised by your comment. 2 timothy 3.6 says nothing about losing salvation, eternity, heaven or hell. "For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts." By the way. Have you read 2 Timothy 3.5? "Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away." It sounds like you have a form of godliness but you deny the power. What is the power?? It's the Gospel of Christ! "For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek." Romans 1:16 Once you believe, the POWER of God carries you through unto salvation. You think that the Gospel is a lie from satan??? I'm afraid you have been given some bad information. Can you, or your pastor, give me even one example of someone in the new testament who gets their salvation revoked? I just want one. One person who accepted Christ but didn't make it to heaven. I'll wait for your response.

[@omegatafkal]

The one who is spirtually awake and knows it is false doctrine

[@kjvacp]

@@omegatafkal you're spiritually ridiculous.

[@kjvacp]

@@omegatafkal you people who think salvation isn't permanent. You seriously think all these books are "the devil's biggest lie"??? Mark 16.15-16 John 3.16 John 3.36 John 4.14 John 5.24 John 6.29 John 6.39-40 John 6.47 John 6.50 John 6.56-58 John 7.38 John 10.28-29 John 11.25-26 John 14.6 Acts 2.21 Acts 8.37 Acts 16.31 Romans 3.22 Romans 4.5 Romans 5.10-11 Romans 6.22-23 Romans 8.1-4 Romans 8.38-39 Romans 10.9-11 1 Corinthians 5.5 2 Corinthians 5.17-21 Galatians 2.16-21 Galatians 3.22 Galatians 3.26 Galatians 5.5 Ephesians 1.11-14 Ephesians 2.8-9 Philippians 1.6 Philippians 3.8-9 Colossians 2.9-11 1 Timothy 1.15 Titus 3.4-8 Hebrews 7.25 Hebrews 10.10-14 1 Peter 1.3-5 1 John 2.2 1 John 2.22-27 1 John 3.23 1 John 5.9-13 Revelation 1.5-6 Revelation 22.17 What type of bible are you reading?? Open your eyes! Men shall come who have " a form of godliness, but denying the POWER thereof: from such turn away. Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth." 2 Timothy 3.5, ‬7 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the POWER of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Romans 1.16 Once saved always saved IS THE GOSPEL!!! If you don't acknowledge OSAS, then you don't even know what the gospel is! Our responsibility is to believe in Christ. That's it! We are given eternal life. Eternal life doesn't end! If we could lose it, then it wouldn't eternal. It wouldn't be everlasting. It would be garbage! Temporary life is flippin worthless. We get Jesus' record accredited to our account. We get his perfection, his righteousness, his obedience, his holiness, his sinless life, his purity, his light, his EVERYTHING! There is not one single thing you could ever do to lose your salvation. And there is not even one single person you can show me in tbe New Testament who gets their salvation revoked. You people have been terribly deceived and lied to! NO CHRISTIAN LOSES SALVATION. EVER!!! READ!!!!!

[@MennoSchreuder]

Amen and so beautiful!!!! Thank you!

[@joyfulinourblessedhope2323]

PRRFECT❣️. Thank you Dr Farley. God bless you and this ministry. ✝️🙏

[@jeffreyhunter4966]

I've met some apostolics before who think that it's possible for christians to go to Hell. I would tell them "Jesus promised he would never leave us". But then they would still respond "But Jeff, where does it say that in scripture?"

[@jayheinz4624]

Exactly right brother he shall never leave us her forsake as we are saved and we are sealed we have a new heart!!

[@vincentcaruso3832]

Jeff, right here. These so-called apostolic before think that it's possible for Christians to go to Hell. Here are a few scriptures to refute them, Ephesians 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption. Jesus said I cast out none I lose none. John 6:37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. John 6:38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. John 6:39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. John 6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day. If Jesus lost just one it would mean he FAILED on the cross, and you CANNOT JUST WALK AWAY. That once more means Jesus lost one, which Jesus said I lose none.

[@jeffreyhunter4966]

Yeah dude he would have failed the cross sacrifice. Tony Evans and Joseph Prince always teach that if a Christian could lose their salvation then Jesus's death on the cross was not enough after all. as long as Jesus knew that his death on the cross would be perfect, he knew that he could for sure promise eternal life to those who accept him as lord and savior. That was God the father's will. that's what I love about the book of john, I love how it's a letter to the churches. It's to remind christians of their eternal security in Jesus and it's a letter to non-believers to share with them the news of being a child of God through Jesus. Jesus is our everything. He already loved me with a passion before I accepted him as savior

[@JORDAN-C]

Great video. Loved the passion.

[@oscarbarcena6632]

First day you believed in the finished work of Christ on the Cross you are saved.and Christ our Lord says,( John 10:27-29, Hebrews 13:5) we saved forever,He gave us new Identity, new self. And this is forever

[@MargaretHeuer]

Thank you pastor Farley

[@pjcoop]

We are 'ADOPTED' not 'fostered'. The people who 'object' to eternal, unbreakable salvation usually do so because they can't bear the idea that God can and does save (and keep) people they don't think 'deserve' it. They have effectively become the older brother of Luke 15. God looks for reasons to INCLUDE people. Small minded 'religious' people look for reasons to EXCLUDE people. True grace is simply unpalatable to the religious, self-righteous mind, the mind that says "there HAS to be 'some' cost". Jesus is the ONLY cost.. you have to believe, and receive salvation, but having believed and received, salvation CANNOT be undone.

[@pipkinrahl7264]

If you pick me up from the titanic and take me halfway back and I jump out of the life boat, then I was once saved but of my own free will, I have given up that salvation. This is the truth about once saved always saved. Eternal Security is not eternal or secure until we are dead. Playing games with words and saying "Those who depart from the faith were never truly saved to begin with" is intellectually dishonest at best.

[@estespark4128]

Matthew 7:13-14 Enter by the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the way is easy that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. For the gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few.

[@irenepedigo4903]

Amen , Andrew we are so mix up , glad you explained ,Thanks

[@GodsTruthMinistries]

Outstanding! Outstanding! Outstanding! People who don't believe in the eternal security of the believer simply don't believe Christ's promise of everlasting LIFE to those who believe in him. They simply don't believe the good news in essense, if they think the believer will perish when Christ said "and they shall NEVER PERISH, but have EVERLASTING LIFE" in the most well-known and famous bible verse of all time, John 3:16. Believe it and be blessed! Great news here. Thanks Andrew!

[@TheBibleSays]

We'll have everlasting life when we receive it at Jesus' return. (1 Cor 15:50-54; 1 Thess 4:13-17). *_Then_* we'll be saved . . . *_then_* we'll have eternal life, eternal security. That's why Jesus said we must "endure to the end" to be saved (Matthew 10:22) Meanwhile in this mortal life we have "the hope of salvation" - the _promised_ gift of eternal life: ▬ "But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation. For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ" (Paul, in 1 Thessalonians 5:8,9). ▬ "And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life" (1 John 2:25). ▬ "Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;" (1 Peter 1:13) ➔ Has someone led you to think you're already "saved" - done deal, locked in? Sorry, it's not true. Judgment is on "the house of God" - His church, His people - right now: ▬ "For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?" (1 Peter 4:17) ▬ "Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it." (Hebrews 4:1)

[@demetriushall1810]

I have written these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life. 1 John 5:13 .

[@TheBibleSays]

@@demetriushall1810 Obviously we don't literally have eternal life . . . we're going to die. We have the promise of eternal life: ▬ "And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life" (1 John 2:25). As Paul clerly explained, we receive immortality - eternal Life - at Jesus' return: *"Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,* *In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.* *For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.* *So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory."* (1 Corinthians 15:42-54)

[@vincentcaruso3832]

@@TheBibleSays You are a liar trying to pervert the truth.

[@tee7733]

Amen brother the truth shall set us free.

[@RightWithGodMinistries]

Dag Andrew you took that question apart!

[@MathewSimonGospel]

Praise God

[@susanboyd3354]

Thank you, Andrew, for your sharing the truth, I just sent this to my sister who believes that she was lost at one point in her Christian walk. Is there any thing you would say to someone that holds this belief about themselves? I hope she will reach out to you and ask because I am too close to her for her to have ears to hear me.

[@theresaplash2462]

GOOD NEWS!!!!!!

[@patrickstewart9937]

2 Timothy 2:13 - God is faithful

[@freyaaldrnari6086]

This guy is so helpful...

[@jayheinz4624]

Hey my friend!!👍 I know we visited before when we're watching Andrew Farley!!

[@rmtraveldiaries]

Your teaching of grace comforts me.. But whenever I listened other teaching rather than grace gospel. feel like I can't be a Christian or condemned.. Im confused which is the real gospel what really Jesus teaching was!? Whenever people gives quotes from Bible its seems they are right either grace gospel or other... I don't know I'm so confused.. In my mind I don't want to sin but still sin every day..

[@colton7373]

That struggle you have with sin is proof you have a new heart due to God’s grace. Paul talks about his worries for a church, not wanting them to be deceived away from the SIMPLICITY of knowing Christ. The gospel is very clear! For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life. Romans 5:10 Here are some even more concise, simple passages explaining what this gospel is all about: For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received, that *Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, and that He was buried, and that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures,* and that He appeared to Cephas, then to the twelve. 1 Corinthians 15:3-6 The death of Christ takes away all sins of believers, the resurrection causes all believers to be born of the Spirit, or “born again”. nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. *Such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.* All things are lawful for me, but not all things are profitable. All things are lawful for me, but I will not be mastered by anything. 1 Corinthians 6:10-12 It’s clear that all of our sins are forgiven, and we still struggle, but we’re not defined by those sins. We find our identity in Christ alone. Of course there is discernment involved and many important choices we make in this life, but we can rest assured knowing our salvation is fully dependent on the SAVIOR, Jesus, the Christ who was raised for our justification, setting us apart for His own purposes.

[@rmtraveldiaries]

Thanks

[@vincentcaruso3832]

@@rmtraveldiaries Your sins were already judged at the cross, Fact is when you feel the guilt of sin, that's the seal God put on you when you first came to Jesus, Ephesians 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, That conviction of sin you feel is the Holy Spirit doing one of many attributes. You remained seal to the day God redeems you. God Bless you & your family.

[@johnf.6942]

Everlasting life means forever , end of debate ....

[@benny-yj7pq]

It is not about the meaning of everlasting life. Every born again believer gets it believing in Christ.Every one, even the greatest sinner can come and receive it by faith. The question is can you lose it? You say, we cannot lose it. But what about Adam and Eve, did they had eternal life? They died spiritual and physical death. That proofs we can die spiritual as the prodigal son did (Luke 15:24). The problem is, if someone wants to work out his salvation on his own without the help of the Holy Spirit, he will lose. It is not about keeping the law, that is religion, and who wants to be saved by keeping the law falls out of grace. But what does it mean to hate sin and to stand against it and work out our own salvation with fear and trembling? The possibility to lose it should drive us closer to the Lord, because our security is in Him. Not to live as far as we can from the Lord, but to seek his face and to walk with Him daily, to be filled with the Holy Spirit continuously and repent quickly of sin, and the Lord will cleans us from all unrighteousness. May the Lord guide us in all truth and make us overcomers. God bless!

[@johnf.6942]

@@benny-yj7pq If you can lose it , then it was never eternal to start with.

[@vincentcaruso3832]

@@benny-yj7pq Adam & Eve were not born again. Jesus did not save them.

[@swiniacki77]

Great video bro. May God bless you brother !

[@lilybloom17]

OSAS SIMPLY MEANS EVERLASTING LIFE!

[@missionarypaulyb]

You are so awesome and Thanks for inspiring us and our KZbin channel and ministry

[@benpenner801]

it says (eternal life) for a reason, once you are born of God you are God's child, like when you were born a Farley there's nothing that can change that.

[@Be_An_Esther]

It says eternal life because we are triune beings made in the image of God. Our souls live on forever, it cannot be killed. So you WILL be ALIVE somewhere, eternally. However, that doesn't mean you will be in heaven with The Father. Jesus Himself said it's far easier to enter hell than Heaven!

[@demetriushall1810]

He will also strengthen you to the end, so that you will be blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ. God is faithful; you were called by him into fellowship with his Son, Jesus Christ our Lord. 1 Corinthians 1:8‭-‬9 🙌

[@carolbattle8010]

When saved christians sin, they are disciplined by God, like a Father corrects his children.

[@Be_An_Esther]

And how does He correct? He gives His Holy Spirit to those who are His, and the Holy Spirit CONVICT'S us of our sin and enables us to REPENT! You think God's just gonna, what? Shake His finger at you and say "now, now, you're being very naughty" ?! He's not Santa Claus and this isn't a game

[@theomegawerty9688]

God cannot lie, and swore the promise on himself. So you have a promise secure by two factors, and his power, and validated by the resurrection. If you are doubting, then repent, (from that doubt) and believe the Gospel.

[@Be_An_Esther]

He also swore that no sin will enter heaven and that unless you repent you will perish

[@IsraelNewTestament]

Most people never give this a thought. But according to scripture, Isaiah 14:12-15, Satan lived in heaven as a perfect angel with God and then became jealous of God and was cast out of heaven to this earth. He then will eventually be cast into the lake of fire according to Revelation 20:10, and will be lost for eternity. So my question is, what gives us, mere mortal, sinful man the right to think that our salvation is eternally secure and that there is nothing we can do to lose our salvation and be lost, when one of God's Holy angels, who rebelled against God, will be lost? Something to seriously think about.

[@nathanburden6548]

Because Angels are NOT ELIGIBLE FOR REDEMPTION MIC DROP

[@eternalsecurityofthesaints9581]

You think God somehow did not know angels would fall? and if He did, there must be a purpose...

[@vincentcaruso3832]

Jesus took our sins upon him to the cross, Hebrews 10:4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins. Hebrews 10:5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me: Hebrews 10:6 In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure. Hebrews 10:7 Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God. Hebrews 10:8 Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law; Hebrews 10:9 Than said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second. Hebrews 10:10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. Hebrews 10:11 And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins: Hebrews 10:12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God; Hebrews 10:13 From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool. Hebrews 10:14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified. Hebrews 10:15 Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before, Hebrews 10:16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them; Hebrews 10:17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more. Hebrews 10:18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin. Hebrews 10:19 Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus, Hebrews 10:20 By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh; Hebrews 10:21 And having an high priest over the house of God; Hebrews 10:22 Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water. Hebrews 10:23 Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised;)

[@JohnDoe-cd6ro]

Amen! I am a sinner! I am not worthy and have never been worthy. I am saved by my father's grace. I will always be a sinner and not worthy. But guess what? Ever since the day Jesus saved me I don't go out trying to commit more sin. Quite the opposite. I try to keep my sins to a minimum. And it's not even me but his spirit in me that moves me, that urges me to do that. I know I will never be worthy. I know nothing I can ever do will save me. And that's what he's saying. Jesus said that. It's not like I'm never going to commit a sin again but just because I know that doesn't mean I'm out here willfully trying to commit every sin I could possibly think of. I'm very conscious and aware of it. So the few vices I do have I repent and get on my knees for and trust that he will transform me. And trust that even if I slip up one day that he will save me. Because I trust and believe in his promise. It's that simple ladies and gentlemen. I think the problem is we keep trying to compare God to our finite minds. Our minds are not like his. "How many times shall I forgive my brother? 7 times?" And what does Jesus say? He laughs at us because we are called to forgive are brothers infinitely the way he forgives us infinitely. That's why it all boils down to that one commandment above all. Love God and love your neighbor the way you love God. Because if you took everything in this universe and crunched it down to that verse it sums up everything about God and what we are supposed to do here. God loves us. We are to love each other, discipline each other, help each other. That was always the original plan. Can you imagine what the world would be like if we lived like that? The millennial kingdom. That's what.

[@osvaldovaldes10009]

Good post!

[@omegatafkal]

if you are a sinner, you are not born again

[@fourgodsglory1]

IT IS FINISHED

[@jaybrick8973]

Im still trying to understand this fully but no we don't ever lose salvation you are calling God a insufficient saviour by saying we can

[@jayheinz4624]

No! isn't it foolishness, if we can lose our salvation Gavin??

[@vincentcaruso3832]

Rewards yes, salvation, never.

[@candie5150]

I have to say, I agree with your theology Andrew. But (and this is a big huge BUT) there will always be the opposing argument which says (and I'm sure you've heard it before). They use scriptures that seemingly "trump" or "override" the scriptures you just mentioned. They take these handful of scriptures and form their doctrine (which summarizes 'only those who endure til the end will be saved') while at the same time, you take your scriptures and form your doctrine of (once saved always saved). It's frustrating for all of us who are trying to rightfully divide the word of truth and figure out what it's truly saying. Help us Holy Ghost! Do we stand on the scriptures you're quoting and forget about the scriptures that they're quoting? Do your scriptures override theirs? How does it all fit together? Does one scripture override another? On one hand you have James 5:19-20 which says "My brothers and sisters, (he's talking about saved people here) if one of you should wander from the truth and someone should bring that person back, remember this: Whoever turns a sinner from the error of their way will save them from death and cover over a multitude of sins". What's up with that scripture? Death is a big word! Or how 'bout this one? 2 Peter 2:20-22 "If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ (isn't that us who say we're once saved always saved) and are again entangled in it and are overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning. It would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than to have known it and then to turn their backs on the sacred command that was passed on to them. Of them the proverbs are true: “A dog returns to its vomit,”and, “A sow that is washed returns to her wallowing in the mud.” Help us here Andrew understand what you're teaching because there are so many scriptures that can 'seemingly' debunk this stance. Dare I quote another? 2 Peter 3:17-18 "Therefore, dear friends, since you have been forewarned, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by the error of the lawless and fall from your secure position. But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and forever! Amen". What the heck? Fall from our secure position? what's that mean? I could go on, but there's enough here to answer. Thanks in advance for your reply.

[@Humilityismyaim]

I am sure that rightly dividing is recognizing what is written to Israel/ Jews is for them. And what is written to Gentile believers is to them. And only the Apostle Paul wrote to believing Gentiles/not Jewish. Christ Jesus was a minister to the circumcision as were all the 12. And so I couldn't help but notice that all the references were to Israel.

[@gracethroughfaith3377]

There cant be an contradiction in Gods word, so all the verses that people think are teaching salvific loss are not teaching salvific loss

[@gracethroughfaith3377]

@Integrity In Christ Lazlo Amen, Hebrews 10:14- For by one offering, he hath perfected forever, them that are sanctified...... Eternal security 101...

[@BrotherDave80]

The burden of sin was bore upon the cross by the Lord Jesus Christ. Anyone who places the burden of sin upon a sinner to be saved is propagating a false gospel of self-righteousness. Jesus paid it all... and He died in our place taking the punishment we all deserve... Salvation is not doing your best, it is having Christ's best put to your account through repentance and faith. God will not save anyone who is trying to be saved of themselves, He will only save those who know they need a savior and are trusting Him to be saved. The only requirement to be saved is to admit that you are a guilty sinner in God's sight (Romans 3:19-26) and to turn to Jesus Christ in faith trusting in His death burrial and Ressurection (Romans 10:9-13). You must come as an ungodly sinner to be saved. No one has ever been saved except the UNGODLY (Romans 4:5-8). God doesn't save the self-righteous, who are going about to establish their own righteousness (Matthew 7:21-23). We can only be saved by God's righteousness, which is through faith in Christ. Philippians 3:9 says, “And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith.”

[@joshuat7171]

Who did God appoint as the expositor of salvation to the GENTILES? Paul. When you look at the scripture quoted that seemingly contradicts OSAS it is either from the OT, early acts, James, etc. I take my salvation doctrine from Paul. Romans through Philemon. Paul did write Hebrews as well, but it is to the Hebrews(as the title indicates)because he was sent to the Jew first, and then the Gentiles. Jesus mission was only to the lost sheep of Israel. Remember, the Apostles saw Jesus in the flesh. We have to believe by faith alone because we haven’t seen Him.

[@constantdoodle32]

What if you choose to abandon the faith? Or fall away. If God gives you free will to accept him wouldn't you then have the free will to reject him after you've received God's grace?

[@GQPRO]

This question you asked needs to be answered... Andrew???

[@eternalsecurityofthesaints9581]

Is God not defined as all-knowing? How can God accept, then reject, a soul He already knew would walk away? That does not make sense.. The Lord knows those that are His, and He always has...

[@freyaaldrnari6086]

When you trust Jesus your name is written in the lambs book it can't be blotted out.

[@vincentcaruso3832]

@@freyaaldrnari6086 Amen. God Bless you.

[@vincentcaruso3832]

constantdoodle, Ephesians 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.

[@NK_AGYEPONG]

There's not a single verse in the Bible that describes God's love as unconditional. It is a word the Apostle never used. It is a 21st century Christian lingo! The epitome of God's love is Jesus. Did Jesus ever give a condition to be saved or be His disciple? The single condition is CONTINUING to believe, holding on to the end that Jesus is the Christ! The Bible says, you draw back, you go into PERDITION! Hebrews 10:39 But we are not of those who shrink back and are destroyed, but of those who have faith and preserve their souls

[@petezah5731]

This is what we Christians should be proclaiming. Not getting all caught up in "when is the rapture?" "Is Jesus coming back in my lifetime?" Jesus is the One who does it all, by His stripes we are healed. If you get Jesus, you get the entire Holy Spirit, not some back-door tongues babble, oogla, boobla, you get the Father, you get the whole package at the moment of salvation. He never leaves. This is everlasting life. The Christian is totally 100% washed of sin. It's gone, taken away. Praise His mighty name!

[@forgivenforeternity7621]

Amen! 🙌🏼🙏🏼👏🏼🔥🔥🔥

[@kathyjakobson3729]

69 years of tormenting of going to hell because I am not obedient and sin!!! Now I am looking for the real Jesus Christ

[@Be_An_Esther]

Being perpetually disobedient and abiding (living in and with) sin unrepentantly is called iniquity, no iniquity will enter Heaven.

[@DynamicGracer]

Yeah you have to repent and turn from the evil God saved you from

[@lanemorrison4145]

Believe the Gospel 1 Corinthians 15:1-4. And you are saved. Ephesians 2:8,9,10. Grace is a free gift from God. Not of your works. And afterwards we SHOULD walk with Him. Ephesians 2:10. It doesn't say "must". Salvation is a free gift. Just simply believe. Fellowship is your walk, what we "should" do after we believe. If we do nothing for the Lord, we get no rewards or inherantance in heaven. Pastor Thomas Cacuzza's ministry explains it all so clearly. Verse by verse out of the KJV, not these modern perverted versions that started the same year as Darwin's dimwitted theory came out... OSAS is exactly what the Bible says. When you believe the Gospel, you're saved, you have eternal security/everlasting life. Now go out and serve God by spreading the Gospel and be like Jesus for your rewards and inheritances in heaven when you get there. Most of us will probably be there with minimal responsibilities, however, at least you'll be there. Read your bible, do what it says, have great rewards after you are judged by Jesus at the Bema seat/judgement seat of Christ. It's so simple. But many denominations don't get the contexts of our infallible word of God through the KJV. Sad.

[@vincentcaruso3832]

God Bless you, Lane, I enjoyed reading your post, full of truth.

[@TheBibleSays]

Can a Christian lose their salvation? TRICK QUESTION! *You can not lose what you do not yet have!* The apostles Paul and Peter gave the correct perspective on salvation: it is something we hope for, to be received in the future. Here's Paul: ⚫ "But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation. For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ" (Paul, in 1 Thessalonians 5:8,9; Paul did not tell them they had been saved.) Here's Peter, saying "shall be" saved - in the future: ⚫ "But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they." (Acts 15: 11) In fact, Jesus tells us we must endure to the end to be saved: ⚫ "And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved." (Matthew 10:22) We shall be saved - saved from ever perishing in death - when we actually receive the promised gift of eternal life at Jesus' return. Paul explained this in 1 Corinthians 15:42-54 and 1 Thessalonians 4:13-17. Short of receiving the gift of eternal life, we will surely perish in death, losing everything, *very much unsaved!* Salvation - eternal life - is a grace promised to us, to be received at Jesus' "revelation" or return: ⚫ "And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life" (1 John 2:25) ⚫ "Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;" (1 Peter 1:13) Justification and salvation are two different things, at different times In this mortal life we may enter justification; we will not be saved until we receive eternal life at Jesus' return. Paul wrote: ⚫ "Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him." (Paul, in Romans 5:9; there's another example of "shall be" saved.) "By his blood" a person may enter justification; "through him" that person shall be saved. "Through him" means through a relationship with Him. Remember Jesus' words about those who had preached in His name, and had "cast out devils," and had "done many wonderful works"? Jesus warned what he would say to them: ⚫ "And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity." (Matthew 7:23) Not only must we know Him: we must continue to abide in Him: ⚫ "If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned." (Jesus, in John 15:6) So, how do we enter justification? Through faith (Ephesians 2:8) that God exists and rewards (Hebrews 11:6) we may then choose to obey and "come to God" (Hebrews 11:6) on His terms: in repentance. For that we receive His promised mercy: ⚫ "And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent" (Acts 17:30) ⚫ "He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy." (Proverbs 28:13) So, what is the mercy promised in Proverbs 28:13? Our past sins will be blotted out: ⚫ "Repent therefore and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, so that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord" (Acts 3:19, NKJV) A believer - a person who through faith has come to God, confessing and forsaking sin - has been "purged from his old sins" (2 Peter 1:9). Believers have "remission of sins that are past" (Romans 3:25). They have redemption - by grace - from the death penalty they had earned for past sins: ⚫ "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord" (Romans 6:23). Believers have been "saved" (re: Ephesians 2:8) from hopelessness. They have not "endured to the end"; they have the "hope of salvation." They are no longer under condemnation, no longer under the death penalty they had earned as the "wages" of their past sins. That redemption was made possible "by his blood" as we saw in Romans 5:9: Jesus made His death available to cover our death penalty. The Gift of the Holy Spirit With past sins that separated us from God (Isaiah 59:1,2) erased, and no longer under condemnation, we enter justification, reconciled with God, no longer separated from God. Now we can begin a new life, "times of refreshing" in "the presence of the Lord" as we saw in Acts 3:19: ⚫ "Repent therefore and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, so that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord" (Acts 3:19, NKJV). And how are we in "the presence of the Lord"? Through the gift of the holy spirit, given to those who obey and come to God in repentance: ⚫ "And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him." (Acts 5:32) ⚫ "Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost." (Acts 2:38) Through the holy spirit Jesus guides us out of slavery to sin and into His righteousness, overcoming slavery to sin. This is how we are made ready to receive the gift of eternal life and to inherit the Kingdom of God. Creation is not finished: sons and daughters for the Father's eternal family are being created, right now, through Jesus. He is the potter, we are the clay: ⚫ "As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent." (Jesus, in Revelation 3:19) A relationship with Him ⚫ " . . . yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby" (Hebrews 12:11). ⚫ "He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son." (Revelation 21:7) We can not make the journey along the "narrow way" (Matthew 7:14) that leads to life without His help. And that journey can neither begin nor continue without our repentance, abiding in Him. Outside of repentance, we receive no mercy and no redemption; we will surely perish in death, paying our own death penalty. And outside of repentance, we can not be made ready to receive the gift of eternal life. For those reasons Jesus warned: ⚫ " . . . except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish." (Luke 13:5) Peter makes it clear: we either come to repentance, or we perish: ⚫ "The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance" (2 Peter 3:9). *Nothing about "faith alone" there!* Jesus told His disciples to preach repentance and remission of sins, not "faith alone," not "faith + nothing = salvation": ⚫ "Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures, And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day: And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem." (Luke 24:45-47) All those warnings . . . We have free will, and it is possible for us to return to a life of sin, no longer in repentance and no longer abiding in Him. We've chosen sin, not repentance. In that case, we have "fallen away" from justification, no longer on the "narrow way" that leads to life. Once again we have sins that have not been blotted out. We've returned to condemnation. *That's why the apostles gave all those warnings* not to "fall away" and not to "fail of the grace of God." To "give diligence to make your calling and election sure" (2 Peter 1:10,11). To *"continue in his goodness"* or else be *"cut off"* (Romans 11:19-22). ⚫ "Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it." (Hebrews 4:1) Here is a list of similar verses: ⚫ 1 Corinthians 9:24-27 Paul understood he could possibly return to sin and be a "castaway" ⚫ 2 Peter 2:20-22 Even after knowing Him it is possible to return to a life of sin, and end up worse than before ⚫ Hebrews 10:26,27 If we return to a life of sin . . . ⚫ Hebrews 6:4-6 We can "fall away" even after receiving the holy spirit ⚫ Hebrews 12:14,15 We can "fail of the grace of God" ⚫ Revelation 3:5 and 22:19 Our names CAN be blotted out of the book of life ⚫ Hebrews 3:12-14 "if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end" ⚫ Colossians 1:21-23 "If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled" ⚫ Romans 8:13,14 "if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live. ⚫ Luke 12:45,46 Jesus warned what would happen to servants who returned to sin ⚫ John 15:6 Jesus warned what would happen to those who fail to abide in Him

[@omegatafkal]

AMEN

[@TheBibleSays]

@@omegatafkal Thanks. Hope folks who read that will learn from it.

[@cyraxox7440]

If I sin as a child of God, then my Heavenly Father will rebuke and chasten me , just as any good father would (Rev. 3:10; Heb. 12:4-8), but He will not condemn me with the world (I Cor. 11:32). God has promised His children ETERNAL SECURITY. "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life." (Jn. 5:24) "He that hath the Son hath life; he that hath not the Son of God hath not life." (I Jn. 5:12) I know I'm going to Heaven because God has already given me ETERNAL LIFE . I'm not waiting to receive eternal life-I ALREADY HAVE it as a present possession. Read the above verses carefully and see for yourself that eternal life is IN Jesus Christ. When I received the Lord Jesus Christ as my Savior, God placed His Eternal Spirit within me and gave me Eternal Life. As a child of God, I'm still waiting to see Jesus, to enter Heaven, and to receive my new glorified body, but I'm NOT waiting to be saved. My soul IS saved, and I know I'm going to Heaven because God has given me Eternal Life. "For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified." (Heb. 10:14) "But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works, Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered. Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin." (Rom. 4:5-8) Have you ever heard the expression "Nobody's perfect?" That isn't true. In God's eyes, the SOULS of all His saints ARE perfect, because they have placed their faith in the Lord Jesus Christ for Salvation. Jesus shed His sinless blood to pay for my sins. He OFFERED Himself as a PAYMENT for my sin. He paid my sin debt because I couldn't. By receiving Him as my Savior, I am also receiving the fact that He has PAID for my sins and that I can now REST in His finished work, because my sins are GONE! My soul (not my flesh) has been made PERFECT through the completed Blood Atonement of the Lord Jesus Christ. If you can lose your salvation what sin or how many sins does it take ? YOUR works cannot save you ONLY the blood of Jesus. All of our righteousness is as filthy rags. SHOULD we, as Christians, do good works because we love him and abide in him? Absolutely, but our salvation is not contingent on it. GRACE through FAITH, plus nothing minus nothing. Its not about YOU its about HIM.

[@TheBibleSays]

@@cyraxox7440 Typical easy-grace theology. Already "saved." Already have eternal life and can not possibly be lost or fall away. Makes you wonder why Jesus and the apostles gave all these warnings: ⚫ Luke 12:45,46: Jesus clearly warned what would happen to servants who returned to sin: "But and if that servant say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; and shall begin to beat the menservants and maidens, and to eat and drink, and to be drunken; The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers." Once saved, always saved? Apparently not. We have many other warnings from Jesus, Paul and Peter. ⚫ John 15 verse 6: "If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned." (Jesus, in John 15:6) It's amazing to me that anyone could conclude you're still "saved" after being "cast off as a branch" and "withered" and "cast into the fire" and "burned." Simply amazing. Jesus did not say "once a branch, always a branch." ⚫ Romans 11:19-22: The apostle Paul warned that Gentiles, even after being "graffed" into the "vine," could be "cut off" the vine, just as the "natural branches" - the Israelites - had been broken off: "Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in. Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but *fear:* For if God spared not the natural branches, *take heed* lest he also spare not thee. Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, *if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off."* ⚫ Hebrews 4:1: "Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it." ⚫ 1 Corinthians 9:24-27: The apostle Paul clearly refuted "once saved, always saved": he stated he could become a "castaway." Here's verse 27: "But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway." ⚫ 2 Peter 2:20-22 If, after overcoming sin through knowing Jesus, a person then returns to sin, "the latter end is worse with them than the beginning." "For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire." ⚫ Hebrews 10:26,27 delivers the same warning about returning to sin: "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries." ⚫ Hebrews 6:4-6 It IS possible to fall away, even after receiving the holy spirit! There would have been no point in writing the next passage if it were impossible to fall away: "For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame." ⚫ Hebrews 12:14,15 We can "fail of the grace of God": "Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord: Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled;" ⚫ Revelation 3:5 and 22:19 Our names CAN be blotted out of the book of life: "He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels." "And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book." ⚫ 2 Peter 1:10,11 "Salvation" is not unconditional, here's another example of "if" with conditions: "Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall: For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ." ⚫ Heb 3:12-14 Another "if" with conditions: "Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God. But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin. For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;" ⚫ Col 1:21-23 Another "if" with conditions: "And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight: If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;" ⚫ Romans 8:13 Another "if": "For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live."

[@cyraxox7440]

@@TheBibleSays The security of our soul depends on Christ's righteousness, not our own. If sinning in any way could cause one to lose his salvation, then Paul would have lost his, because AFTER he was saved he said he was the chief of sinners. We get saved by God's grace , not by what we do, and our salvation remains by God's grace, not according to what WE do; we will be saved from wrath THROUGH him. If we can do something to lose our salvation then God failed and our salvation was not only dependent upon God's grace, but also upon our behaviour - which is works! (Doing works in the Lord's name is not definite evidence of salvation, we must KNOW him as our personal saviour) Salvation is a gift, not a wage, it is obtained, not attained . It never was deserved and never will be. If our safety is dependent upon our works then we are really saved by our works and must earn our salvation, which is a direct violation of Scripture and the truth of salvation by God's grace ONLY. A person who believes that he must work to keep his salvation, instead of work because he HAS salvation, needs to make sure he is ONLY trusting the Saviour Jesus Christ to take him to heaven and not Jesus Christ plus his good works; he needs to understand how to be saved and what salvation really is. The theif on the cross:" And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom. And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise. Luke:23:42-43. No works there, its as simple as that. Jesus said : For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light. Matthew:11:30. In God's eyes when we get saved we are perfect forever, justified (made as if we had never sinned ), and sanctified, as far as our salvation is concerned. We still live in a sinful body and still sin but these only affect our fellowship with the Father once we are saved. The Bible says that God WILL NOT impute (charge up) sin to a believer (Romans 4:8; 8:33; II Corinthians 5:19) and that includes ANY sin.

[@lilybloom17]

Eternal life everlasting life, who can say this is not true! nothing can separate me from the Love of Christ, a new creation has a heart for God, security makes you free from sin!

[@joeasuncion7854]

"Layaway Salvation." Monthly installment until it's Paid in Full.

[@joshuashepard583]

AMEN. God actually SAVING me is -TRULY- good news! Christ dying just to give me a chance... is NOT good news. Not for anyone desperate for salvation.

[@jayheinz4624]

Joshua, that's a really good point! 👍

[@josephdurraz8574]

ANDREW, This is my first time to hear from you, because I never heard of you before... I am so blessed with your response to the Question of Jose: Is once saved always saved? Immediately I clicked the SUBSCRIBE button....MAY I ASKED you also a question sir? Do you believe that all people will be saved? If not, then who are those people who will not be saved? Thanks for the reply...

[@ReconciledRadio]

Not all people unfortunately. Why: We have free will to accept Jesus Christ, and those who believed on him were saved but then remember aswell that God gives us all free will to believe in Jesus Christ.

[@estespark4128]

Read your Bibles. Either this guy is confused or purposely misleading you all. 21 Not everyone who says to Me, “Lord, Lord,” shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, “Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?” 23 And then I will declare to them, “I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness.” Matthew chapter 7 verses 21-23

[@vincentcaruso3832]

Who are these saved people in Matthew 7? How did these people get saved? Are these Gentiles? Did Jesus go to the cross in Matthew 7?

[@Be_An_Esther]

He's not misleading, he's LYING. He is a grifter and he's only here to make a buck. Hope it's worth it for him. This man has said Peter was gay for Jesus and Jesus had a foot fetish. He's repugnant.

[@Be_An_Esther]

@@vincentcaruso3832 that's exactly the point, these people WERE NOT SAVED! THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE, but they never repented of their sins and they never had an actual marriage covenant with Him, they were working iniquity (living in their sin) but claiming to know Him at the same time and were shocked to learn that He NEVER knew them

[@Sunshine-hx6hq]

So but about those folk who decide to be atheists.. those who willfully turn against God and who really do NOT want to be part of God anymore After receiving Jesus' salvation... Will Holy Spirit then stay with that person eventhough they do not want to do anything with God... reject His ways etc.. Just a question...

[@gracethroughfaith3377]

How do you know they were really saved?? or are you just assuming they were saved??

[@gracethroughfaith3377]

@@victorialdavis9221 My reply was to the question the person had above about someone walking away from the faith, the first question one must ask is how do they know the person was ever truly saved?? only God knows the hearts.

[@Sunshine-hx6hq]

@@gracethroughfaith3377 thats the thing.. only God knows right..

[@ddkaye7258]

Sunette Koopman, If a person has truly met the risen Savior....it is impossible to turn away from Him! It's something about that love...you want it forever!

[@spartafarm]

We who are finite (temporary) beings cannot look into anyone's heart. Only GOD knows the heart. Realizing this, I would say that someone might be a "do-gooder" or be very moral and take on the appearance of being a Christian, but we do not know whether or not they are genuinely saved. Someone who is genuinely saved will not become an atheist. They were not saved.

[@mattborg333]

So then, does that mean that some people who think they are saved may not actually be saved?

[@samsamthecat492]

Yes I do believe that because in the bible it says something like"Lord, Lord I did this for you and that" and Jesus tells them he never knew them. So they might have believed they had to do things to earn salvation but never truly believed what he did for them.

[@LouLouLion]

@Patrick Quinn right. And the reason they work iniquity is bc they trust in themselves for salvation and not Him, so they have no forgiveness for their iniquities

[@omegatafkal]

those who still commit sin are not really saved.

[@chriswood7165]

Well done . Light in the darkness

[@Be_An_Esther]

More like the blind leading the blind

[@kingofmonsters14]

my friends and family say that just because i'm a good hearted-person, i'll be accepted into heaven. yet... i've seen many videos, yours included, that say that being good-hearted is not good enough... i've sinned, and i feel being good-hearted isn't good enough... but one of the Commandments says honor thy mother and father, and they both said to stop watching these videos because they're eating me up... so what do i do...?

[@jk11222]

Salvation is believing Jesus died and rose again and He has made the full payment for ALL your sins when He died in the cross. You only need to receive the gift of God which is eternal life through Jesus Christ.

[@kingofmonsters14]

@@jk11222 but that's another things...some people say that is enough, but others say i should try to emulate the lifestyle of Jesus- praying daily, worshiping daily, doing God's work by spreading the Gospel, never sinning... with so many answers to so many experiences... i don't know which one is right...

[@jk11222]

@@kingofmonsters14 Believing and accepting the gift of God by faith is enough and the only criterion for salvation.

[@jk11222]

@@kingofmonsters14 Ephesians 1:5. Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, Once you believe, you are made a son through Jesus Christ. God is your Heavenly Father. It’s Father and son relationship. Nobody can quit being a son and no father can disown his biological son. The relationship can sour but the bond can’t be broken. When we pray, praise and worship God after salvation, we are keeping the sweet relationship with our Heavenly Father. We behave because we want to please Him.

[@jk11222]

@@kingofmonsters14 Never sinning? Nobody is perfect. Salvation is the salvation of the soul. When we believe, our soul is saved eternally as God gave us the gift of eternal life. The blood of Jesus has paid for the penalty of sins. However, we are still in this sinful body which can still sin. Only after we are changed into incorruptible body, then only we are sinless body, soul and spirit. Until then, we can still sin as we are not perfect. Nobody is. If anyone says he will not sin and cannot sin, he is a liar. Inadvertently when we sin, we just confess our sins and will try not do again. We confess our sins not to stay saved as we are already saved. If we have to do good works to stay saved, then it’s your works that saves you. But salvation is by grace through faith and a free gift NOT of your own work. It’s the blood that saves NOT your own righteousness which is as filthy rags. Ephesians 2:8. For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Ephesians 2:9. Not of works, lest any man should boast. Isaiah 64:6. But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away. 1 John 1:8. If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 1 John 1:9. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

[@MargaretHeuer]

I feel the Lord won't let me go

[@anthonycoscia5501]

Hey, I must respectfully, disagree with you on this point. I don’t believe people can say “ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED.” What about JOHN:-CHAPTER:8? People wanted to sone her. By THE LAW!!!…They had the right to kill the woman. But Jesus stopped them and said…Let He who is without sin throw the first stone. When the left Jesus said, where are they? Has no one condemned you? The woman said no one. And Jesus said I don’t condemn you either. And then Jesus says Now go, and leave your life of sin. Jesus didn’t say!…I know you have a problem with this sin, don’t worry about it. I got you covered. And what about Judas? Do you think he’s in Heaven? Probably not!…I am sure God didn’t say, come on in…Judas. You were in Jesus’s circle, so I forgive you for betraying my Son. Once saved-always saved-does not! makes sense, if you willfully walk out of God’s presence. And you keep going against God’s plan for your life.

[@ls1power00me6]

The woman was a prostitute. If she didn't turn from that she would have been stoned. Judas, the devil entered him. No saved person can become demon possessed. Once you believe, not know but believe in Jesus then you are his.

[@anthonycoscia5501]

@@ls1power00me6 Fair point!. But we are not given enough information about the woman in JOHN: Chapter 8:, about her background, And remember, Jesus said: “Not everyone who says to me…(LORD!)…(LORD!)…Will inherit The KINGDOM of Heaven”. Matthew: Chapter:7:Versus:21:to 23: So my point remains.

[@ls1power00me6]

@@anthonycoscia5501 when I read in Rev about those saying "God did I not drive out deamons in your name?" I think of many of the TV Preachers that are well known. Especially Kenneth coplain (sp). I'm not sure how to spell his name. Anyway, the point is there will be many who are deceivers thinking they are doing works to get to heaven. "Look at what I did". I don't do anything. God does it thru me.

[@anthonycoscia5501]

@@ls1power00me6 That’s part of my point though. People can walk away from God because of free will. If someone gets saved, but later in life, becomes an Atheist…Do you think God will still let them into Heaven? I don’t think so. Because that would not be a just thing to do…

[@ls1power00me6]

@@anthonycoscia5501 ok. I understand where you are coming from. I don't know. I never meet someone who was saved and did a complete 180 turn from God. I know that sin can't keep you out of heaven. Meaning, whatever sin you do or done or will do in the future, can't keep you from God's love. Earthly consequences, yes there are consequences to what we do here on earth

[@JolinHard]

I agree. You also need more views. All these calvinists are taking over youtube.

[@believeinjesus8862]

What about people who turn from their salvation(renounced)🤔 Like Charles Templeton, Josh Harris and his wife....🤷‍♂️🤷‍♀️

[@toliveischrist950]

I did and the Jesus came after me because I belonged to him! If you’re born again, that’s what happens❤️

[@eternalsecurityofthesaints9581]

@Followerofchrist 247 In other words, those who turn back were never born of the Spirit, correct? But those who are born again, though they may struggle, fall, stumble, or temporarily turn away, they will always be saved, since they are children of God.

[@jayheinz4624]

@@toliveischrist950 that's great Leah and thanks for telling us that!! 👍

[@jayheinz4624]

Just people can walk away but they're still saved if they are true believers.. people walk away for all types of reasons and a lot of it is probably deception from legalism and feeling they can't measure up to God's standards !which is a lie.. because God now sees us Born again believers as he sees Christ.. white as snow in our sins are as far as the East is from the west and we are sealed until the day of redemption! You are the righteousness of God in Christ Jesus.. I give unto them eternal life, and they shall never perish ,Jesus said.. Paul said to timothy, if you are faithless he will remain faithful because he cannot and I himself.. and he himself is in us with the holy Spirit, we are in Christ..

[@vincentcaruso3832]

Where did the Holy Spirit go, if they were saved?

[@lucindacarpe485]

Great explanation!!

[@joejr5196]

A man pastor Andrew That was awesome

[@swiniacki77]

Great video pastor !

[@Maarten927]

What about if the person rejects Jesus and his forgiveness later on in life and then also does not want to go to heaven and would rather go to hell and curses God etc does he not lose his salvation?

[@JonathanGrandt]

Does this person exist?

[@Sutty33100]

All Christians have the ability to fall into false doctrines and be deceived unfortunately. The Epistles warn us over and over again against falling for such deception by false prophets and false teachers. What would be the point of the warning if we couldn't fall into these traps? The story of King Solomon is a prime example of this. Solomon was still saved, still heaven bound even though he was literally worshiping idols. If an adopted child of God "falls away" and somehow gets so deceived that they would choose hell over heaven, then they have no clue what they are really asking for, as no one would ever want that if they fully understood the reality of it (the odds of anyone actually wanting that is probably so low it's an impossibility). God, being the loving Father that He is would not allow that request. As anyone who puts their trust in Jesus Christ to save them are saved eternally! We cannot give it away, we cannot lose it, we literally cannot mess it up (Ephesians 1:13-14; John 3:16; Acts 16:30-31; John 10:28-30)! That is the good news of the gospel buddy, trust and rest in that!

[@Maarten927]

@@PreciousForReal "What person wants to go to hell instead of heaven? " I have met atheists that say they will rather go to hell than heaven and that heaven would be hell for them etc... I can show you videos of atheists choosing hell over heaven... "Can a person become unborn once they are born. No they cannot. In the same way once a person is born again they cannot become unborn again.once you are a child of God you are a child of God because his spirit is in you you have been transformed he can't take it back. " Why does Paul then say: 1 John 2:19 They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us. "Once you have believed on Jesus Christ when God looks at you he only sees Jesus. " even the demons believe in Jesus... so an atheist that hates God and realizes God exists and Jesus exist and thus believe they exist will he go to heaven just for believing in Jesus? I doubt that they will go to heaven just for realizing that Jesus exists and God exist and thus believing they exist... "God does not relate to you by you and your works. God is relating to you by the finished work of what Jesus did." Sure but true faith will go over into works but the works does not save you... James 2:18But someone will say, “You have faith; I have deeds.” Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by my deeds. 19You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that-and shudder. 20You foolish person, do you want evidence that faith without deeds is useless ? 21Was not our father Abraham considered righteous for what he did when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? 22You see that his faith and his actions were working together,... "Also if you go to Romans 8 verse 38 + 39 you'll see where Paul says neither height nor depth principalities things to come things pass nor angels or people or creatures. There is nothing that can separate us from the love of God is what he says. Including yourself. " Not including yourself... there is nothing that can separate us from the love of Christ but if you reject God's forgiveness and reject Jesus then you will be separated from God's love and will have to pay for your own sins... John 3:18 "whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God." " John chapter 10 Jesus says what is in my hand can in no wise be plucked out. Once you've been saved you can rest assured and know that you are going to heaven for all eternity. God bless you." Yes I agree with that but that person can leave God's hand if he wants to because he has free will... God does not force him to stay there... so to God does not force someone to accept God's forgiveness through Jesus... the person can accept it and then later choose to reject God and his forgiveness and then start hating God and rather wanting to go to hell etc... God will give that person what he wants... or is God going to force the person into heaven?

[@Maarten927]

@@JonathanGrandt 'Does this person exist?" There are people like that I have met people that told me they would rather go to hell than heaven... I can even show you a video of a person saying why he would rather go to hell... and atheists advertise hell as being much better than it is...

[@Maarten927]

@@Sutty33100 "All Christians have the ability to fall into false doctrines and be deceived unfortunately. The Epistles warn us over and over again against falling for such deception by false prophets and false teachers. What would be the point of the warning if we couldn't fall into these traps? " yeah I agree... "The story of King Solomon is a prime example of this. Solomon was still saved, still heaven bound even though he was literally worshiping idols. If an adopted child of God "falls away" and somehow gets so deceived that they would choose hell over the millennial kingdom, then they have no clue what they are really asking for, as no one would ever want that if they fully understood the reality of it ." yeah I agree, but I can show you people that say they love satan and would rather go to hell than heaven... and they claim heaven would be hell for them... and they say they would reject Jesus even if they realize he exists... "God, being the loving Father that He is would not allow that request. " So even if a person rejects God's forgiveness and rejects God and hates God and would rather go to hell than be with God in heaven then it seems according to you God will force him into heaven? "As anyone who puts their trust in Jesus Christ to save them are saved eternally! We cannot give it away, we cannot lose it, we literally cannot mess it up (Ephesians 1:13-14; John 3:16; Acts 16:30-31; John 10:28-30)! That is the good news of the gospel buddy, trust and rest in that!" Sure we can rest in that, but anther person putting his trust in works rather than in Jesus even though believing in Jesus will probably not be saved... That is probably why Jesus says: Matthew 7:21“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’ These people are trusted in their works and started naming their good works to be saved... the will of the Father is to trust in Jesus and His finished works if you trust in your own works then you are not accepting the free gift of forgiveness from God... you are then trying to earn forgiveness like all the false religions try to do...

[@suerush8823]

Exactly

[@rodicaraveca1858]

Ezekiel 33:13 King James Version (KJV) 13 When I shall say to the righteous, that he shall surely live; if he trust to his own righteousness, and commit iniquity, all his righteousnesses shall not be remembered; but for his iniquity that he hath committed, he shall die for it. Romans 6.

[@drummerboy737]

Keywords his own. We trust in Jesus's righteousness which he gave to us.

[@vincentcaruso3832]

Romans 5:20 Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound: Romans 5:21 That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord. When is your sins greater than the grace of God?

[@bruceallensmith4491]

I'm guessing it's safe to "assume" that everyone here agrees that when we are born, our name isn't automatically written in the "Book of Life". That it's not until we accept Jesus as our personal savior, and Believe, confess, repent, and are Baptized that then our name is written in the "Book of Life"? If we can agree on that, then explain to me what Revelation, chapter 22, verses. .. 18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. Mean?

[@eternalsecurityofthesaints9581]

It means that nobody would take away from it who is written in the book of life....

[@cuale3688]

How come that teacher like Andrew Wommack don’t see this truth ? They proclaim to know God but then teach that we can loose our salvation. I don’t get it

[@partlysimpson5154]

So people be honest the ones who followed "repent your sins before, and belive surrender to Jesus Christ, was your life miserable? And what has change after you realize that grace, gospel is the truth and you are finally free? Free of? Addicitons? Anger? Pride? are you now finally filled with Holy Spirit and before believing repenting sins you where not having joy, did u then thought also that u have Holy Spirit while u where believing in work based gospel?

[@spartacusx8153]

In addition sir. You are disregarding and diminishing jesus' warning..about Him blotting out your name from the book of life and removing your lamps and in regards to sin..He was addressing these warnings to Christians

[@thecozyhomemaker316]

That warning was to the churches as a whole, not to individuals. What does “eternal” mean to you? John 6:47

[@spartacusx8153]

@@thecozyhomemaker316 Good morning... Eternal life means forever... non ending.. read John 15:27-28 ...Jesus gives eternal life to those who hear and follow Jesus.. following means a daily following..having a current relationship with him..if you stop following him and stop hearing him you are effectively rejecting him and he says if you deny him he will deny you before the father Jesus and the apostles say you must endure in the faith to the end else you will fall short..you do not receive eternal life until the end when you face the great white throne judgement and God either brings you end or cast you out..my suggestion to you is that you diligently research this by listening and weighing christian arguments against once saved always saved beliefs. This eternal security teaching regardless of how a believer behaves and sins after receiving the Lord is the great deception...the same lie Satan told Eve of you shall not die by sinning

[@thecozyhomemaker316]

@@spartacusx8153 eternal life is for anyone who believes on Christ, believing means you believe he died for your sins was buried and rose again to save you from hell. He did it all. Hope you get saved. Right now, you are working for Satan and making salvation complicated even though it is the simplicity of Christ.

[@spartacusx8153]

@@thecozyhomemaker316 Ungodly reply you gave...no scripture given..no encouragement to study..no Holy Spirit at all. Just dead words and accusations from the flesh. A great swelling cloud with no water.. believe what you will... honestly no one can help you if you retain that prideful and deceitful heart..watch out ma'am for the wolves who are teaching you don't feed the sheep they eat them. Good bye... God bless..

[@thecozyhomemaker316]

@@spartacusx8153 “But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.” ‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭11:3‬ ‭KJV‬‬ You think that was an ungodly response? I wonder what you would think of Paul. “But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.” ‭‭Galatians‬ ‭1:8-9‬ ‭KJV‬‬ Stop complicating the gospel, you’ve been warned. You are preaching a different Jesus and a different Gospel. Salvation is simple, and it’s by faith alone. You are acting like the serpent. Repent of your false doctrine and trust Christ alone, you are heading for hell. Tough love.

[@jayheinz4624]

not once saved always ?? not OSas???by the way, for those of you that don't believe in eternal security,,are you keeping the ten commandments, are you repenting all day long, and by the way are you keeping all 613 of The Commandments,?do you think you're going to be able to abide up until your deathbed? What if you get angry and cussing her killed the car accident at the same time!!!?? What if you're thinking nasty thoughts and you're killed or die of a heart attack??while you're focused on yourself and working so hard to make it to heaven? you're sinning by focusing on yourself and your sins!!!just keep working at it!!!, Where is your love? Just keep stomping all over Grace and just throw it out the window of your theology... ..keep working hard!! and just maybe maybe you'll make it through that narrow gate???by the way you guys take the narrow gate verse out of context!!, it means Jesus Christ!!!,,, you put your faith in Jesus Christ alone and he is the narrow gate and He saves us!period!!!

[@ls1power00me6]

Absolutely agree

[@Be_An_Esther]

There's actually over 1000 commands in the New Testament. Yes I do keep the ten commandments to the best of my capabilities and yes I repent daily, as Jesus taught us to do when he gave us The Lords prayer

[@maryfarag1665]

👑👍

[@wandadaugherty3470]

The scriptures you quote are correct but it doesn't say you can't walk away from God. Because the man who puts his hand to the plow and turns back is not worthy of the kingdom of God. Also the seed planted on stony ground doesn't come up. The second comes up but is burned out and dies. Then the third thrives and survives. And your life story isn't everyone's story and some think you can sin and just ask for forgiveness at the end of the day. And they make no effort to walk away from sin. But what about when they die before night time prayers. Those people will stand before God for those sins. They're heart is not right with God and they think if they do their confirmation or are sprinkled they are saved and they can live ungodly and still go to heaven. Because God understands and i live in Grace. Because once saved always saved. The Bible doesn't say once saved always save that is man's theory. As long as our hearts are seeking God and doing as he asks we are in a saved condition. It's not over until you step through those pearly gates. And you can fall from grace. As little as keeping one tenant of the Law. You are deceiving the people. And most of the people stating that have not been born again. The book of Acts tells how to be saved. Most churches believe all you have to do is repent and your saved. I think the phrase is "Accept Christ as your personal savior". You need to seek God about your statements. You I believe truly are seeking God but the people clutching to that phrase think they are alright and are going to heaven no matter what.

[@jayheinz4624]

I do hear your heart and I understand what you're saying my friend and I understand your concerns.. those are valid reasons.. but this came to my mind, when Jesus said at the end times,, I never knew you.. not I knew you once but then I didn't know you! You said I give unto them eternal life, and they shall never perish and never means never! Period! The good news of the Gospel is that we are safe completely in Christ!! see Colossians and Titus,,, not only that but you are a new creation in Christ and you have a new heart ! And sin is no longer your master! You are the righteousness of Christ and Christ Jesus! You are sealed until the day of redemption! You are a child of God and nothing can change that! You are adopted in a God's family and nothing can change that..

[@vincentcaruso3832]

Where & when can you leave the Holy Spirit? How far can you outwalk God? Ephesians 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption. Paul said you are sealed to the day God redeems you. Hebrews 13:5 Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee. If God never leaves you or forsakes you, how is salvation lost? Salvation is never lost, if that is the case, Jesus failed on the cross. If you could just walk away, that means Jesus failed. Jesus said I cast out none I lose none. If you can just walk away, that means Jesus failed right?

[@ancientlandmark_]

Y’all, God is love, once saved always saved is not the characteristic of true love/salvation. The prodigal son chose to leave his father, we can choose to leave our heavenly Father Jesus, just like the prodigal son‘s father still loved him even though his son was living with the pigs, his father did not force him to come back, the son eventually chose to come back to his father, but some people choose not to come back, it’s a choice y’all, you can 100% lose your salvation, you can pluck yourself out of God’s hand, but God will still love you but if you choose to deny Him continually until your last breath, He will not force His salvation/love upon you. Jesus said, you deny Me before men and I will deny you before My Father which is in heaven, it’s the Bible y’all.

[@pipkinrahl7264]

Not Biblical at all.

[@almierz4604]

1. Mark 16:16. He who believeth and is baptised shall be saved ; but he that believeth not shall Be damned. This tells us we must have faith and believe, and we MUST be obedient. 2. MATHEW 12:32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the son of man , it shall be forgiven him : but whosoever speaketh AGAINST the HOLY GHOST , it shall NOT be forgiven him , neither in this world , neither in the world to come. So WHO is LYING ? The commentator OR JESUS. You decide !

[@vincentcaruso3832]

Al, that sin cannot be done today, Jesus is not here on the earth.

[@almierz4604]

@@vincentcaruso3832 WOW. ! You better get A better BIBLE teacher

[@vincentcaruso3832]

@@almierz4604 Why? I have the Holy Spirit in me. You posted you can Blasphemy the Holy Spirit, How? In general, the word blasphemy according to Merriam-Webster means “the act of insulting or showing contempt or lack of reverence for God.” Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is when you take the true work of the Holy Spirit and you speak evil of it, attributing his work to the devil. I don’t believe this is a one-time thing, but it is an ongoing rejection of the work of the Holy Spirit, of over and over again attributing his precious work to Satan himself. When Jesus addressed this topic, he was responding to what the Pharisees had actually done earlier in this chapter. Here is what happened: Matthew 12:24 But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils. Matthew 12:25 And Jesus knew there thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand: Matthew 12:26 And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall than his kingdom stand? Matthew 12:27 And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils, by whom do your children cast them out? therefore they shall be your judges. Matthew 12:28 But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, than the kingdom of God is come unto you. Jesus IS ON THIS EARTH when he is being accused by the Pharisees of using Beelzebub to do his work, instead of the Holy Spirit. This is the BLASPHEMY Jesus spoke of. The bottom line is the sin of UNBELIEF! These Pharisees rejected Jesus as the Massiah. You are nowhere as bright as you think you are in thinking this sin can be done today.

[@deteroloquete]

This is the type of message that people loves because it make them comfy and live a life thinking they are saved like the christians in Mathew 7:21 and then find out they weren’t, i know im saved because the fruits of the Spirit that i have and shown with evidence the ones that the bible teaches but if you don’t have the fruit of the Holy Spirit like a lot of people don’t have and they Think they are saved better go and examine yourselves and start to show evidence that you are a True Christian.

[@eternalsecurityofthesaints9581]

If an unrighteous person takes the message of eternal security and uses it as a license to get away with a lifestyle contrary to righteousness, then they have missed the core message that leads one to desire a divine transformation into godliness. An apple tree cannot produce oranges. What others do with a message, interpreting it either correctly or incorrectly, is on them, but the message of eternal security remains the same for those who belong to the new covenant.

[@bereangirl7118]

and what is the message in Matthew 7:21?. What is the will of the father"? " To believe in his Son". it is the works of the spirit ( Christ in you")and not the works of the flesh( fruits) that get you to heaven. its not what you do to please him ( fruits) but, what he already did for you that saves you". He doesn't want your sacrifices but your simple faith"!. He gave his life so that through him we could have life". ( John 6: 63-64 ) ( John 5: 38-41 )

[@deteroloquete]

The message in Mathew 7:21 is that there is going to be a LOT of people inside churches that think they are saved and they are not simple as that, you think a “simple faith “ is what God wants from us? 🤔 , OBEDIENCE! OBEDIENCE! Is what is all about, SANCTIFICATION! Which people don’t like because they have to let go stuff they love, open your eyes, if is a simple faith then what is the reason for 66 books in the bible for? I don’t see thats simple.

[@eternalsecurityofthesaints9581]

@@deteroloquete So do you agree or disagree with eternal security?

[@deteroloquete]

@@eternalsecurityofthesaints9581 i agree with a big “IF” I maintain obedient

[@donhaddix3770]

False claim about OSAS. Knowledge does not mean saved. Romans 8 says 28 And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who[i] have been called according to his purpose. 29 For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers and sisters. 30 And those he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified. More Than Conquerors 31 What, then, shall we say in response to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us? 32 He who did not spare his own Son, but gave him up for us all-how will he not also, along with him, graciously give us all things? 33 Who will bring any charge against those whom God has chosen? It is God who justifies. 34 Who then is the one who condemns? No one. Christ Jesus who died-more than that, who was raised to life-is at the right hand of God and is also interceding for us. 35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall trouble or hardship or persecution or famine or nakedness or danger or sword? 36 As it is written: “For your sake we face death all day long; we are considered as sheep to be slaughtered.”[j] 37 No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. 38 For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons,[k] neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39 neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord

[@TrackTruth]

Hebrews 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins. 2 Peter 2:20-22 - For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. Humm??? the Bible doesnt exactly line up with this particular explaination. I think I will go back to the Bible and follow. Not every is a "Bible answer man" but I see alot of OSAS predistination type teaching. If they move to cessation of Gods Gifts to the church then I know to walk away quickly, some seminaries have become a serious poison. If necessary go to another version to compare these two texts.

[@jayheinz4624]

For one thing, look at the whole context of those verses, they're not talking about true believers, but those that were apostates and maybe gnostics and walked away from ever accepting Jesus as their salvation!!

[@TrackTruth]

@@jayheinz4624 You couldn't be more wrong; 2 Peter 2:20, ESV: "For if, after they have escaped the defilements of the world through the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the last state has become worse for them than the first." Do you see this for what it really means. Ther person was once under grace and in salvation, but they chose to walk away from this saving grace and returned to the sin, like a dog to its vomit. Greasy grace is no grace at all, its justification of living apostate which much of the modern day church world is doing today.

[@jayheinz4624]

@@TrackTruth I do agree with you about people taking advantage of Grace... if you call it greasy Grace? And yes, maybe some of those people are not truly saved.. getting back to this verse, notice Peter says knowledge.. Peter is most likely addressing false prophets, maybe Gnostic types that also John and James came across and Paul.. true grace, and freedom in Christ is what Jesus died for.. when we were in Christ we have everything the Bible says we are in Christ check out some of those verses about who you are, in Christ, and get back to me..

[@vincentcaruso3832]

@@TrackTruth Where & when did Peter change the subject? Peter starts out by warning the church that these false converts have crept into the church. 2Peter 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. 2Peter 2:2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. 2Peter 2:3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not. 2Peter 2:4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; Tell me Track, When did Peter change the subject from a warning to saying these are saved, people? Also, where in scriptures are saved people referred to as a sow or dog? Fact, 2Peter 2:1-22 This ENTIRE Chapter is ABOUT false teachers & preachers. Not saved people.

[@TrackTruth]

@@vincentcaruso3832 You couldnt be more wrong. This sometimes is referred to as the TULIP Calvinism. The view of "we are safe and saved, or elect" They the them are the unsaved wicked people set for desctruction DAMNED. People have a choice to serve God, in Christ being filled with the Holy Ghost and being "overcomers" as Jesus stated clearly. You yourself can decide to turn from following Jesus Christ and his teachings and do your own thing. Do as thou wilt. Any man can chose to receive Christ blood atonement work upon the cross of Calvary and put on Christ, becoming one of his. At anytime a person can chose to turn away and pursue another God, which some have turned from the faith and follow something else. That is why the Bible says, If a man turns back from the plow he is not fit for the kingdom. Its very clear but not everyone can embrace it. The Devil just loves to go to church more so than anyone people or faith. The deceivers are deeply implanted by Satan and some of them do so gladly. They serve one God and they are loyal-a's.

[@billhesford6098]

If one loses his salvation, eternally - he could not be said to be actually saved. That's the only kind, isn't it?

[@eternalsecurityofthesaints9581]

Can you lose salvation?

[@abrahamkk2218]

God's love is conditional.. one has to accept terms and conditions of Gospel. Repent and believe.

[@eternalsecurityofthesaints9581]

So are YOU personally saved, or not? If I were to ask you if YOU personally are saved forever, how would you respond?

[@abrahamkk2218]

@@eternalsecurityofthesaints9581 Yes I am saved. Since God regenerated and gave the Gift of saving faith.

[@eternalsecurityofthesaints9581]

@@abrahamkk2218 So once you accept the new covenant, you are then saved and sealed, with no possible way of losing your salvation.

[@abrahamkk2218]

@@eternalsecurityofthesaints9581 .. True believer cannot lose salvation.. Because Jesus has already paid for his or her sins. One could accept new convenent.. if and only if God sovereignly regenerates and gives the gift of saving faith.

[@eternalsecurityofthesaints9581]

@@abrahamkk2218 I agree

[@dennishagans6339]

Scriptures that stand against Osas. Part 2. 1Co 6:7 Now therefore there is utterly a fault among you, because ye go to law one with another. Why do ye not rather take wrong? why do ye not rather suffer yourselves to be defrauded? 1Co 6:8 Nay, ye do wrong, and defraud, and that your brethren. 1Co 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 1Co 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Gal 5:20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Gal 5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. Eph 5:3 But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints; Eph 5:4 Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks. Eph 5:5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. Eph 5:6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience. Eph 5:7 Be not ye therefore partakers with them. Gal 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. Gal 6:8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting. Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. there would be no need for these warnings to Christians if they could not be subject to them because osas says they cannot be. a man-made doctrine does not get to sit in judgment of God's Word. Heb 6:4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, Heb 6:5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, Heb 6:6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame. Heb 6:7 For the earth which drinketh in the rain that cometh oft upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it is dressed, receiveth blessing from God: Heb 6:8 But that which beareth thorns and briers is rejected, and is nigh unto cursing; whose end is to be burned. Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, Heb 10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. Heb 10:28 He that despised Moses’ law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: Heb 10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? Heb 10:30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. Heb 10:31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. God's Word says it and that settles it. 1Co 9:26 I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air: 1Co 9:27 But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway Gal 4:8 Howbeit then, when ye knew not God, ye did service unto them which by nature are no gods. Gal 4:9 But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage? Gal 4:10 Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years. Gal 4:1 I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in vain Php 2:15 That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world; Php 2:16 Holding forth the word of life; that I may rejoice in the day of Christ, that I have not run in vain, neither laboured in vain. Luk 11:24 When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest; and finding none, he saith, I will return unto my house whence I came out. Luk 11:25 And when he cometh, he findeth it swept and garnished. Luk 11:26 Then goeth he, and taketh to him seven other spirits more wicked than himself; and they enter in, and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first It takes the power of God to evict the unclean spirit to start with, but after time has been given by God for that person to grow and obey, and they refuse to do so, God will leave, and when He does the unclean spirit finds his former home vacant and ready for reoccupation and this time he brings some friends. Rightly Dividing 2Ti 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. Many claim that you have to rightly divide the word of God, but the problem here is that they use what they call rightly dividing to explain away or interpret away the scriptures that stand against the doctrine they have freely received from their church and or denomination. It is funny strange that only the scriptures that stand against what they believe must be rightly divided while the scriptures they use to support their doctrines are just fine as they are and do not need any rightly dividing.

[@jayheinz4624]

Then what good news is the gospel that you can get saved and then lose your salvation and they get saved and lose your salvation is that good news? What kind of peace and what kind of insurance does I give you that you are forgiven forever and your sins are as white as snow and forgiven as far as the East is from West!!!

[@dennishagans6339]

@@jayheinz4624 you have heard and believed what your pastor has told you, and you have no reason to doubt what he has taught you. www.philvaz.com/apologetics/a106.htm A denomination is defined as existing within a specific country. There are 33,000+ total of these "Christian denominations" in 238 total countries. These 33,000 are subdivided into "6 major ecclesiastical-cultural mega-blocs", and ordering them by denomination size we have (I am rounding up or down slightly for convenience, using the year 2000 figures) : Independents (about 22000) Protestants (about 9000) "Marginals" (about 1600) Orthodox (781) Roman Catholics (242) Anglicans (168) So the 33,000 number is from the total of these 6 mega-blocs: 22000 + 9000 + 1600 + 781 + 242 + 168 = 33,000+ That is how many different denominations, sects, non-denominational churches, and cults there are. Out of all of those which one is the right one? Ask yourself this, are the wrong ones on their way to Heaven such as the jws, mormons or sda's, and guess what all of them have congregations that have no reason to not believe their minister. Every one of them will have people that are trusting that what they are being taught is the truth so can all of them be right? is the Holy Spirit guiding all of them differently? NO Pro 14:11 The house of the wicked shall be overthrown: but the tabernacle of the upright shall flourish Pro 16:25 There is a way that seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death. How many of them their ministers are feeding them false doctrine? yet they trust their pastor and very very few will wake up and see they are being led down the wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. the devil is the father of lies, and also the father of false doctrines Joh 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. The Holy Ghost will guide us into all truth, so that the truth we are receiving will expose anything we hold that is false, as all truth would do Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Mat 16:24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. Mar 8:34 And when he had called the people unto him with his disciples also, he said unto them, Whosoever will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. Mar 10:21 Then Jesus beholding him loved him, and said unto him, One thing thou lackest: go thy way, sell whatsoever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, take up the cross, and follow me. Luk 9:23 And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me. Mat 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Mat 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. Mat 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves, At least 23,999 are false churches that have some false doctrines yet their congregations are happy and content to follow their church all the way to hell, if you can see and acknowledge this about all of those then why can you not look inside? because just like them you are convinced yours is the right church and all the rest are false. What a terrible thing that multitudes are going the wrong direction as the blind leading the blind and both falling into the ditch and they are all happy and content that their church is the right one.

[@jayheinz4624]

@@dennishagans6339 Dennis, I do agree with you about the multitudes in all these denominations.. but mostly that they think they can get to heaven by their own works out of legalistic actions to try to keep their salvation or to earn their salvation which is completely incorrect.. it's ridiculous to think you can lose your salvation if you've been given a new heart and a new spirit and sealed until the day of redemption.. I want to let you know, I am not following a pastor blindly.. I've only most recently come to find Andrew Farley's teachings.. I studied both sides of the subject of eternal security agonizingly for over 30 years.. I visited and debated with priests, pastors, doctorates on both sides of the issue,, more than you can imagine! And I know the poison of legalism and the poison and sickness that doubting your salvation causes!! It's caused many a true good-hearted believer in Christ to have nervous breakdowns and even commit suicide.. the gospel is good news and I pray that the seeds of Grace open your eyes as you read the Bible through the lens of Grace and not legalism and performance.. then and only then will you find true peace and assurance in Christ..

[@dennishagans6339]

@@jayheinz4624 what is bothing me is that there are so many denominations and ask any one in any one of them and they will tell you their church is the one true church and the rest are false, they all do that, and just by there shear numbers and doctrines it is impossible for all of them to have the right doctrines when at least one of their doctrines goes against what all of the others believe. yet fro the inside they cannot see any wrong in their own doctrines even though it is painfully obvious that the vast majority have at least one false doctrine. what bothers me is that everyone and his brother uses "rightly dividing" as a license to change God's Word so that the scriptures they are "rightly dividing" which stand against their already held doctrines are no longer part of the "all scripture is given by inspiration" 2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 2Ti 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works. I fully believe that is not what God meant concerning rightly dividing that we would use it to alter/change/undo/ scriptures that stand against what we have been taught to believe by the tradition of man and yes calvinism is taught by tradition going back 400+ years. I am no longer using my trump card, as I just listened a message about covering sins. Jas 5:19 Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him; Jas 5:20 Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins. 1Pe 4:8 And above all things have fervent charity among yourselves: for charity shall cover the multitude of sins. so I will no longer use that trump card that shows horrible wickedness being committed by the very people preaching osas. if you are curious just google evil baptist and you will get way more than you bargined for. but I digress that as far as I am concerned those sins are to be covered, where I am not bringing reproach on the name of Christ by exposing sin in the camp for anyone to see that would bring shame on my Lord by the non-christians who would see my posts. if people would read their bibles and believe them as they read, they would also believe the scriptures that stand against any eronious doctrines, once again rightly dividing is not a license from God to alter His Word to prop up various doctrines. we have a saying in Southern Alabama, "if it rubs the fur the wrong way, turn the cat around. instead of changing ALL SCRIPURE by interpretation or explaining away when there is tons and tons of scripture against osas, don't alter God's word to save your doctrine, instead reexamine the doctrine. it would take me many hours just to collate all the scriptures against osas there are so many., and all of them are part of the ALL Scripture that is given by inspiration of God, so that to alter them in any way is to alter what they actually say and mean, if God wanted us to alter His word He would have said so, but there are many places where He says do not add or diminish ought from His word, and what does man do? he comes along with his interpretations and manmade doctrines and uses rightly dividing as a license to alter Gods word that God has already told us not to do. here is the final warning about altering this book Revelation Rev 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: Rev 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. alter anything in the book of Revelation at your own peril. the very first interpreter of God's Word was the serpent, "yea hath God said?" and then he lies to the woman giving her an interpretation of what God really meant, and since it was so successful in the Garden he has used it ever since.

[@jayheinz4624]

@@dennishagans6339 Dennis, as I'm having my first cup of coffee this morning I am replying back here, and by the way ,,I like your cat saying!!👍,,I do hear what you're saying! and I also have experienced many churches thinking they are the true church or at least think they have theeee right way.. Ive also experienced several churches, community type churches that are focused on God's grace and helping the community and those seem to be the healthiest churches I've ever attended.. with regards to rightly dividing the scriptures, I also agree with you.. in a lot of cases that I find in the Bible such as in 1st John, Peter and Galatians ,there were those such as the gnostics that were outright trying to say Jesus never came in the flesh!! Or saying Jesus was never resurrected..? Also some that were not outright saying it,were pretending to be believers and trying to deceive True believers that were truly saved! As you may know Paul calls these true believers, Saints in Christ! or brothers, brethren or sisters in Christ!.. he never addresses them as sinners, because of their new identity, in Christ.. I believe this is the true warning that Paul and John and Peter and James were giving,,to say that this is another gospel a false gospel the gnostics are preaching!! And I believe they say,, have nothing to do with them?.... I know once saved always saved can be hard to grasp, especially for those that were raised very strict or had a strict parent and even those who are raised in legalistic and abusive churches..Dennis, let me ask you to maybe try a experiment sometime!???,, just for a while ,,try to read the scriptures and passages and whole chapters with the eyes that of once saved always saved.. eternally secure eyes.. no !,,I'm not asking you to believe it ,,I'm just saying, read it as an experiment and see what you see,,.. see how it looks through those eyes? I do appreciate visiting with you Dennis !!have a blessed day!

[@partlysimpson5154]

All these preachers nowdays seem like salesman, so its gonna be hard to trust any of them and stick to bible, alltho for me new baby christian is hard to understand the bible, yet I fallen lot into these deliverance ministry, works based salvation, then the other side are free grocers and soo..pick your side. And the debate and fight they have with eachother :O ...It makes very confusing

[@spartacusx8153]

Not a good analogy sir...you can't be unborn but you can die. Correct... Jesus does say he'll never leave you or forsake you..amen.. HOWEVER..you can leave or forsake Jesus can you not.

[@vincentcaruso3832]

We all die once, if saved, if not, you die twice. How can you leave God when sealed by the Holy Spirit, before you answer, LOOK UP what the attributes of the Holy Spirit are.

[@yellathehybrid6988]

So saved people dont have free wills?

[@eternalsecurityofthesaints9581]

Saved people have a foreknown freewill

[@dakotahollingsworth6479]

What a joke

[@eternalsecurityofthesaints9581]

Are you laughing?

[@jayheinz4624]

What's the joke Dakota??

[@omegatafkal]

False gospel. The Bible says if we do not stop sinning God's wrath will abide on us

[@truthseeker6455]

God's wrath only abides upon those who willfully reject Christ (John 3:36).

[@ls1power00me6]

It's not about stopping sin. It's about either you accept Jesus or you don't.

[@jamesthecommander8156]

Horrible heresy (try to read Hebrew 6)

[@GodsTruthMinistries]

You are wrong. Read Hebrews in it's whole and the rest of the biblical narrative. If you don't believe Christ's promise of everlasting LIFE you are not believing his promise of it to those who believe in him. Did you even listen to the video? By not believing in eternal security you are calling Christ a liar. That sir, is a sin you need to repent of.

[@jamesthecommander8156]

@@GodsTruthMinistries no, i'm not wrong. He's mistranslating Hebrew 10:14, the terme εἰς τὸ διηνεκὲς isn't meaning forever, it's meaning CONTINUOUSLY. The sanctification is a complex process with back and forth, not a moment. The salvation happens or not at the end. It's not up to you and you know nothing about it. Nowhere it's written your salvation is granted by a clear moment, during God let you know you're saved. This is crazy. Besides that, accept it or not, but Hebrew 6 states PLAINLY and CLEARLY you can loose your salvific grace once you have it. Period. Osas is destroyed. The method of proties is just horrible. You're interfering with your human logic in the scriptures to make its simpliest as possible to lead ppl to heresy. You should try to read a church father someday. They had the skills to explain you the scriptures.

[@rtgray7]

Wow. It must feel good helping God keep you saved James! Keep up the good work(s)….

[@GodsTruthMinistries]

Instead of reading the "church fathers" you should try reading and believing the Bible some day.

[@spartafarm]

"Human Logic", huh? "Church Fathers", huh? Yeah, right. Human logic and church fathers are so much more knowledgeable than GOD. (NOT)