Once Upon A Time 3x12 - "New York City Serenade" Reaction Part 2/2

[@arthurteixeira9866]

Evil maybe powerful, but wicked always wins 💚

[@habibaamr6968]

I don't get how the concept that OUAT is about Disney only came from!! It's a FAIRYTALE show, it has used fairytale characters which are not Disney before, Hansel and Gretel, Red riding hood and Rumplestiltskin are not Disney!!

[@HelloXrancidkitteh]

I think she assumed, because it is also common knowledge that the show was ok'd and run by Disney, on a Disney network- the channel ABC. edit: didn't see someone already said it lol. well, I agree.

[@habibaamr6968]

@@HelloXrancidkitteh yeah but she has already seen characters who are not Disney before in the show so I don't get why the confusion of Oz being in the show 😅 oh well

[@monimoo88]

Yeah I always see people say why would Disney do this or why would Disney do that when it comes to OUAT, and every time I’m like ITS NOT A DISNEY SHOW!

[@BeanSparrow]

except they use things that disney added like only 3 wishes with the lamp was not in originl story that was made up by diusney and in later seasons thy use disney orginal characters esspecially in season 4 so saying it is not based of disney is stupid

[@norwegianpride7523]

6:57 I love that delivery, he sounds genuinely offended 🤣

[@kylerichard7275]

I'm pretty sure it was always the writers' plan to have "The Wizard of Oz" be a part of the show. In the pilot, one of the pages in the Storybook had flying monkeys on it.

[@appigreen1559]

Again: it is not about fairytales and not Disney's They are STORIES. Every kind of story

[@BillyVell]

I would say it is about fairytales though There are a couple things that aren't but they are the exception, not the rule

[@HelloXrancidkitteh]

it is a Disney run show, it was approved and aired on a channel the Disney company owns- the channel ABC. POSSIBLE SPOILER, WITHOUT NAMING NAMES ( only continue to read if you've finished the show ): it's why they were able to use certain characters, most have not shown yet, and not be sued.

[@appigreen1559]

@@HelloXrancidkitteh should this mean that they are faitytales? 🤔🤔🤔 near snow White and cinderella you have not Disney carachters like Midas, Frankenstein, nurse Ratched.... SPOILER Jakill/Hide and others. Do you know that Graham was supposed to be Sherlock Holmes, but they did not get the copyright and decided to kill him?

[@jareththegoblinking3191]

You're gonna love Rebecca Mader (Wicked Witch) She is the best

[@MrSupertallblackman]

The Wizard of Oz is in the public domain anyone can adapt it. Edit: Also Disney doesn't own any of these characters.

[@theadamabrams]

I understand your point about Walsh, but if he weren't evil then Emma would have had to struggle with whether to tell him and whether to get back with him after this new threat is vanquished. As it is, she can focus on her family without that at the back of her mind. The point was to write him off completely and _not_ have another ship for Emma.

[@MarieAnne.]

Also, I think it pays off later when we find out who Walsh really is.

[@arielsteinsaltz1956]

The Wizard of Oz books are public domain, so they can’t use stuff from the movie but the books are fair game.

[@jayebird1138]

I wonder when she'll learn... nothing, absolutely NOTHING in this show is a coincidence.

[@shannoncrawford5812]

Walsh's whole purpose was he was sent to keep an eye on Emma, tjat's it.

[@khera7576]

LOL you're face when the Wicked Witch appeared on screen 😂😂😂

[@Mx_Flix]

Oh man... I remember how this episode wanted to keep everyone in suspense about who the next villain is... Except during the entire mid-season break, starting pretty much directly after the previous episode, the OUAT twitter was *constantly* posting posters and teasers etc., "Wicked is coming to Storybrooke" or the like xD

[@heidimarcum5984]

New York City Serenade- Now... I really enjoyed your reaction for this phenomenal episode for me. New York City Serenade is another one of my favorite episodes from season three. I just love every moment between Emma and Hook! :) I think it's hilarious that Emma handcuffs Hook's wrist again just before she had him arrested like she's done twice before... once back in season two's episode, Tallahassee... up in the giant's castle on the beanstalk when she locks his wrist in the shackle, then again in season two's episode, In the Name of the Brother... when she cuffed his wrist to his hospital bed after placing him under arrest for shooting Belle at the town line. I'm sure Hook had to be frustrated upon being cuffed yet again in this episode too. I also think it's funny that Hook jokes with Emma about her getting a kick out of locking his wrist in cuffs back in In the Name of the Brother when she comes to visit him in the hospital... because Emma locks him up quite a few times. So funny. :) However, more than that, Hook is worried about Emma, Henry, and their family back in Storybrooke. Unfortunately, she had him arrested for assault on account of him kissing her, this time by two cops who escort him to jail. It's certainly understandable, just frustrating. Ugh! Now... I absolutely love the scene between Hook and Emma at the restaurant when Hook calls himself a dashing rapscallion and begins to try to convince Emma her family is in danger. I love how desperate he is to get her to remember him and everything about her real life throughout this episode, but he's also very patient and gentle with her too, which I really love. And it definitely shows how far he's come too. Hook's no longer a villain, that's for sure. I also really love the scene between them in the end when Killian is trying to tell her what little he knows about the trouble at home while they share a drink together, just after Emma finally drinks the memory potion. You can see in Hook's eyes and from his expressions how much he cares about Emma, and how hurt he is upon listening to her talk about how he had ripped her away from the fake life that made her so happy. He's sad for her of course, and yet he's also hurt that she doesn't appear to miss her old life that was real in the slightest, or him... in spite of her being without her memories, even though he has thought of her everyday like he promised Emma he would as Pan's curse fell over them in the last episode... Going Home. I love how Hook states to Emma that perhaps there's a man that she loves in the life that she can't remember, as he hopes that a part of her does love him and that she simply can't remember. Sadly, there wasn't even a sliver or remembrance of him in Emma's mind. So sad. Also... I really love the scene outside of the police station when Hook pleads with her to trust him and drink the memory potion. Again... I love his facial expressions that show how desperate he is to remind Emma of who she is, and how desperate he is to make Emma remember him. And it's hilarious that he tells her he's been in many brigs, but never one so foul where he had been force fed bologna. I also love that Emma bails him out of jail so that she can continue to question him about the pictures on Henry's camera. Pictures that reveal her and Henry being in Storybrooke... the unknown land to her where Hook claims she had been living for the last few years. Next... I love the introduction to the Wicked Witch of the West from The Wizard of Oz. Rebecca Mader is phenomenal as the Wicked Witch. I can't wait for you to get to know her! The actress is from Lost in case you might recognize her from somewhere. Although I have never seen the show, so I don't know her character's name. I just know she was in Lost. I'm so excited for what's to come, especially because of the Wicked Witch from The Wizard of Oz. I was thrilled when I first heard that Once Upon a Time was bringing one of my all time favorite movies into the storyline. Absolutely brilliant! :) Now... I love, love, love Wicked, the Broadway show. It's absolutely phenomenal and so beautiful. And I absolutely love Elphaba from Wicked, as well as Galinda, or Glinda the Good as she later comes to be known by. With the Wicked Witch here in Once Upon a Time... I think you will be pleasantly surprised by what's brought into this show from the movie, the play, and from Frank L. Baum's classic novel as well. There's a good combination of everything, I think. So I am sure you're going to love what's to come with her character. She's fantastic! And wicked. :) Also... I love seeing Robin Hood return again, as well as seeing him and Regina finally meet. I love Regina's spunk towards him and his Merry Men. And I absolutely love Sean Maguire as Robin Hood like I've said before. I immediately came to love the chemistry between Robin and Regina shown throughout this episode. It's is great to see their characters come together at last. :) Also... I really love the moment between Regina and Snow when Snow convinces Regina to keep her heart in her chest where it belongs so she can one day feel true happiness, even if it is without Henry. I feel so badly for Regina, as well as Snow too. Both women are so lost without their children, and yet... Snow is being strong for Regina, and I love it. I love seeing how Snow gives Regina the strength to keep going, and urges her to keep her heart, when Regina had always sought to rip out Snow's heart and crush it until now.

[@CallumboMagumbo]

Wicked always wins

[@heidimarcum5984]

I really love the scene between Hook, David, and Snow as Hook prepares to separate from them so he can find the Jolly Roger. Hook is definitely lost and sad without Emma, and at this point, he believes he will never see her ever again. Emma brought hope and happiness back into his life again. She helped him to remember the good man inside of him that he long ago buried so deep down back when his brother had been killed before he ever even met Rumplestiltskin, over two hundred years ago, and she helped bring that good man back out. So, of course Emma means everything to him. He loves her. So seeing him leave to find his ship, because he has no hope of ever seeing Emma again is really heartbreaking. A part of me wishes that Snow and Charming had fought harder to convince Hook to stay with them like Snow had done for Regina, but then if they had and Hook did stay with them, then he would have most likely become cursed along with everyone else, and he never would have made it to New York to find Emma where he is now. So, thank goodness. :) I love, love, love the scene towards the end when Hook returns to Emma's apartment as they are preparing to return to Storybrooke. I love how Hook gets defensive when Henry questions what he's wearing, to which Hook gruffly retorts, "Why are you wearing that?". Hilarious!! And I love that Emma pulls her red leather jacket from her closet too. Brilliant! As for Walsh... I thought he was sweet, up until he suddenly turns out to be one of the Wicked Witch's flying monkeys. That took me completely by surprise. I had no idea Walsh would be a flying monkey. I never suspected it. I suspected he might be shady, but towards the end... I just thought he was a nice guy, unwittingly caught in the middle of this mess that's about to begin. But then... as soon as it is revealed he was a flying monkey, I immediately no longer felt so badly for him when Emma told him she was returning home with Hook. What a great twist! Also... I love how Emma explains to Walsh that she has to go home, because a ghost from her past has shown up, changing everything that she believes she knew. I love how she describes Hook as a ghost, and not as some ex boyfriend, or anything else. It's a very clever way of explaining who Hook is to her because Hook does haunt Emma in a way, as he tries to help her to remember a past she can't remember, and by how he continuously encourages to trust her instincts and to stop denying who she really is. So beautiful really. I also love Emma's demeanor as she talks about him coming back as well. You can tell she's worried about what lies ahead for her and Henry, but she talks about Hook like he's an old friend. I really love this. Henry is also very sweet with his mother in this episode too. As he always is, but I love how much he just wants Emma to be happy. The moments between them are very touching, even when they're playing video games. And I just love how understanding Henry is in whatever choice Emma's made towards Walsh. I wish that he didn't try to push her so hard to be with Walsh, but I do understand he was only trying to help her find the life he thought would make her happy. Now... everyone has been returned to Storybrooke with the last year of their memories wiped away due to another curse. What a great idea to have a new mystery with everyone back home in Storybrooke where they belong. Also... the Wicked Witch of the West is a new rising threat, and Mary Margaret is pregnant! Of course she's pregnant, because Ginnifer Goodwin and Josh Dallas were really about to have their first child together, allowing this show's creators and writers to be able to write Ginnifer's pregnancy into Mary Margaret's and David's storyline for the second half of this season. And it's beautiful! In regards to Philip being alive again... it's because Aurora and Mulan saved him upon learning that he wasn't killed when the wraith ripped out his soul back in season two's episode... Broken. The wraith only ripped his soul away to another part of their world. In season two's episode... Queen of Hearts, Mulan and Aurora said they were going on a quest to find Philip's soul in order to save him. And given that he was in this episode, clearly they succeeded. And I think it's wonderful that Phillip and Aurora are together again. :) And as for Meghan Ory who plays Red/Ruby... she was unfortunately busy acting in another short lived TV series, which is why she's hardly been in Once Upon any longer, which is too bad, because I really like her as Red Riding Hood. But we do actually get a tiny bit of her in this episode again, which is nice. And lastly, in regards to the castles and who owns them... The Evil Queen lives in what used to be Snow's castle where they once lived with her father before Regina killed him and sent the Huntsman after Snow to kill her. Snow and Charming, upon getting engaged once he wakes her from her sleeping curse... moved into King George's, and later Charming's castle which they took over upon dethroning King George for his many crimes against their kingdom. This is where they are seen getting married in season one's Pilot episode. Thank you again so much for another wonderful reaction! I love this episode very much, and I can't wait for your many reactions to the episodes to come! And there's even talk of and a renewed hope that Rumplestiltskin can be brought back! Yay! Season three continues to be amazing!! :) Thank you again!! Until your next reactions, my friend... Sincerely, Heidi

[@xentoip]

8:47 "And you guys are probably going to ask for the pictures and it's never, ever, going to happen!" But there *ARE* pictures though, right?

[@Buffy8Fan]

One of the best episodes in the series. I would never take romantic advice from someone as naïve as Henry, cursed/blocked memories or not. _Wizard of Oz_ isn't Disney, but the company has the money to pay MGM for licensing. But the book is public domain, so if the show sticks to books rules they can use characters and stories without paying MGM. The creators were hoping to use Sherlock Holmes instead of The Huntsman and my guess is that even though most of it is public domain, some of it still is not. My guess is The Huntsman was used because there were still some rights issue over the remaining Sherlock Holmes stories between The Conan Doyle Estate Ltd and Disney.

[@xentoip]

6:07 I'm imagining stock footage of squadrons of flying monkeys to the tune of 'Fortunate Son'

[@Kameab1213]

It actually makes more sense that the love interest was a flying monkey. You got to understand that she is the savior. Anyone who is threatening the people of storybrook have to keep tabs on her no matter where she is in the world because she has the potential to end their plans. It makes sense that someone in her life is a double agent at all times. She is the product of ultimate good. It is not her role in life to lead a normal life. It is her role in life to thwart any evil plan. That is her sole purpose.

[@dondorian]

its certainly one of my favorite lines "the queen might be evil but im wicked"......also....is there an update on the flying monkey pictures ?

[@AfterShowReactions]

hahahah never!

[@robbinsnest6163]

Frankenstein isn't Disney. This isn't a strictly Disney character show. They said they are other worlds so it makes sense for them to slowly incorporate other fairy tales/folklore/mythology.

[@Dagenspear]

In the Pilot, I think they show that one of the pages in Henry's book had flying monkeys or something in it. I think the Walsh being a villain thing is a fair criticism. I think it's kinda easy, almost the show kinda trying to get away with there being not many physical consequences to Emma disregarding the life she's lived.

[@Nate9-9]

Well, the world of King Arthur isn't disney and we saw Lancelot

[@CuddleBunny1901]

OUAT is based on fairytale characters, all the stories aren't disney related

[@invadertifxiii]

Once upon a time is fairy tales that isn't always Disney

[@j_excalibur_0251]

Disney owns the rights to the Wizard of Oz.

[@Alex-13134]

one of my favorite episodes for sure

[@euphoriapotion2075]

It's not just Disney. Sure, there are so many Disney characters in the show because the're the most popular and known, but there are a lot of characters who don't belong to Disney at all. Rumpelstiltskin belongs to Grimm brothers. Hell, you can argue that Snow White and Little Mermaid also belong to Grimm brothers because they originated there (despite the fact that Disney made movies about them as well). Little Red Riding Hood belongs to Charles Perrault. Dr Frankenstein and his monster are Mary Shelley's characters. Pinocchio was created by Carlo Collodi in 19th century. King Midas (season 1) and Medusa (season 3A) are characters from Greek mythology. Robin Hood is a person from English folklore. Not to mention all of "Alice in Wonderland" characters from spin-off created by Lewis Carroll. So it's really not that weird, that Wizard of Oz characters (by L. Frank Baum) are also in the show. All of these are in public domain, which means that everyone can use them!

[@hphannah]

I agree, and I'm sorry but I just need to point out that Little Mermaid doesn't belong to Grimm Brothers.. Little Mermaid is Hans Christian Andersen.

[@altinaykor364]

here's one thing!you said multiple times in multiple reactions of other shows that you hate amnesia storylines and in here you wished,Emma getting her memories back be a little bit more dramatic?😁😁😁

[@SweenyTodd98]

Oh come on, you can't tell you dressed up as a monkey and not give us at least one picture! :)

[@marclewis5505]

6:32 It's called bestiality or zoophilia Shan.

[@Topzapper2]

I totally get what you mean about her bf. It would have been better if the guy got killed by a flying monkey because she told him she was moving to maine and he like ran away and got attacked. That would have been such a better way to kill the guy off and it would change basically nothing about emma’s arc and her troubles with men afterwards

[@xentoip]

8:58 'Nam flashback

[@enzonicolas7501]

Wicked always wins

[@nightwingman666]

And thus the new Big Bad is revealed: The wicked witch of the west I know in terms of fairy tales its kind of a stretch but just roll with it the pay off is worth it. Wait until the season finale your mind will be blown.

[@foreverdone2433]

The amount of shock and confusion I got from that finale

[@nightwingman666]

Forever Done We’ll talk later I don’t know how far she is on season 3 and I don’t want to risk spoiling anything. But yeah after that finale anything is possible when it comes to this show.

[@Supermario19001]

I always had mixed feelings about the witch

[@TonyWasHere]

She's finished all of Season 3 :)

[@nightwingman666]

Tony Good to know I’ll still save my thoughts for the day that vid drops there’s a lot to unpack and most of my thoughts about it aren’t good.

[@willow4049]

wizard of oz isn't disney but to be fair, neither is Frankenstein

[@foreverdone2433]

At the time Disney had the rights to Oz I believe they made the film Oz the great and powerful Also you have the Wonderland synopsis on the bio

[@TonyWasHere]

No worries I made her aware of it. She's already changed it :P

[@gorgeouslycaked3841]

I have to say, the idea of her with a flying monkey is just... yuck... gives me the creeps! LOL!