Thank you for this video. I just added this little hack to my lineman's belt. Up until this year, all I did was tie bowline loops at the end of some climbing rope and when I got to the tree I was gonna hang a stand in, just tie an overhand loop in the rope to adjust it to the length I needed. As soon as I got done hanging my stands I would take the knot out. Adding the prusik loop this year made things so much easier. And now with your little hack, hanging stands in the future is going to be a breeze.
@davidrussell6314 жыл бұрын
Found out just yesterday that a SMALL DIAMETER tree and a Ropeman Ascender is a BAD COMBINATION, and all the deer blowing at my noise instantly reminded me of this great tip that I’d unfortunately seen AFTER I’d already started using the Ropeman. You live and learn. Thanks for the tip!
@alexstarr15892 жыл бұрын
One other advantage to a Prusik over a Ropeman is strength in a fall. In an ideal situation where you never have any slack in your rope, either is plenty strong. But if you ever have slack and fall on a static line, it can generate high peak forces very quickly. The Ropeman is known to de-sheath or completely sever the rope at around 4 kN, which could theoretically be reached with just a few feet of falling on a static rope.
@jlo57934 жыл бұрын
Great video !! Made three of them yesterday, one for my son`s harness, one for myself and one for our stand hanging harness. The first two I used 1/4 inch cord for the tender and they worked great. The lineman rope on the stand hanging harness is older and a larger diameter than the other two, the 1/4 inch cord tender dug in and didn't slid as nicely as the other two. I made a new tender out of 3/8 inch rope for the larger diameter lineman rope, it didn't bind as much and slid alot easier than the smaller cord. Thanks for saving me $150
@averagejackarchery4 жыл бұрын
Glad it worked out for you!!!
@JeremyReger4 жыл бұрын
Send this man an award!
@max_iver2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. I was not wanting to spend the money on ascenders, but I was really frustrated with how cumbersome prusik's are. Now I know I just wasn't using Prusik's correctly. and they are nice and quiet.
@stevenwebb30074 жыл бұрын
I went from a 4 loop down to a 2 loop and added this little tender and it made my lineman's belt actually manageable. Going to add to my 2nd line for getting over limbs. On my first climb with sticks there were many limbs and I couldn't get the prusic to meet go and I was so frustrated. Thanks for the advice.
@rjstewart4 жыл бұрын
I was struggling with this and then saw a video where someone put a pulley on to tend their prusik. I tried that and on the process discovered all I needed to do was put the tail of my lineman through the carabiner connected to my prusik and it works just like your set up with no additional parts!
@laurenchapple82444 жыл бұрын
Rod, I too use the carabiner as the tender. It works like a charm and nothing to addon to the system.
@LabRat151110 ай бұрын
Excellent tip on not grabbing the Prusik knot. I didn’t know that. Thanks!
@nicod18864 жыл бұрын
I use the Michoacán hitch for something like this and it works awesome because it can be released under a full load... same for a tether. A prusik like this one in the video would be a bear to release under full load. Hitches are typically considered more reliable than mechanicals also. But I do love my CT Roll-n-Lock lol.
@ChrisBusinsky5 жыл бұрын
Hooooolllllyyyyyyu $h!t. That is a gaaaaammmmmmeeee changer. Thanks so much for saving me $50 cause I’ve been wanting in for awhile. Making that tonight!!
@scorchedearth18943 жыл бұрын
Me too.
@TheWVgoodguy223 жыл бұрын
I know that I am a year and a half late to this video, but it is obviously still relevant. I am about to order a Tethrd saddle, probably the Eberhart Special Saddle (ESS) and was thinking about adding the rope man later after watching a couple of his videos. I like this idea that you have and will have to give it a try when I am able to after receiving my saddle. Thanks for sharing this, even if you didn't show how to tie the tender, but one can figure that out. Scouting season for deer is now upon us, even though I was doing so while turkey hunting and checking out new areas.
@bg52153 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!! Used a piece of clothes line and a bowline knot. Thank you!!
@B1NT15 жыл бұрын
Wow, I'm very impressed with this idea, I was just going to order a ropeman 1, but not anymore. I'm going to try this out!
@averagejackarchery5 жыл бұрын
Seriously, share it with all your hunting buddies and help them too save the cash!!!
@jima46563 жыл бұрын
Nice little trick with the tender. Thank you.
@chadg035 жыл бұрын
Just found your videos. I really like your thoughts about staying economical, light, and quiet. Keep them coming 👍
@chasehaynie8793 жыл бұрын
You are a god among men for this
@thirdworldadv13122 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I don't have $45 to spend or save. Been climbing and sitting in trees for years without anything. Just a fact of life in some parts of the world. I recently got some rope and a few carabiners given to me. I will use this information and I'm sure my wife will be happy.
@MikeyWoomer2 жыл бұрын
That's what I'm talking about!... this new tethrd rope I got didn't Have a prusik aider and was driving me freaking crazy! Thank you nate! Will give this a go. My aero saddle came with one built in to it. I was going to just go buy a new aero rope but I'll try this first. Thank you sir.. Cabell believe this video is 2 yrs old
@jbbolts2 жыл бұрын
check out jrb tree climbing hes got some interesting stuff
@sarafayelawton6524 жыл бұрын
Great tip Jack! Thanks for the info. Gonna put it on my Tethrd lines.
@MexicanMovie4 жыл бұрын
Wow, one of the most useful videos I've ever seen ! Thank you !!!!
@wbdarby4 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much for this video! I used paracord for my tender. When connected with a Prusik knot I found it would bind when used as a tether for my tree saddle when loaded with my wright. I switched to a Schwabisch knot and it resolved this, and was much easier to adjust after loading. While this only holds in one direction, it works well for a linesman's belt or tether.
@lescooper52244 жыл бұрын
Just what I was looking for . Thank you
@paulevans43345 жыл бұрын
Nice to see you posting.
@wish2fish372 жыл бұрын
Wish I would have known about this years ago.thanks
@outdoorsman9384 Жыл бұрын
Great idea my man, I'm in on this idea👌
@mikeschmidt33594 жыл бұрын
Nice video. You can also achieve the same result by feeding the tag of your lineman rope through your carabiner. That's what I do and it works great for me
@averagejackarchery4 жыл бұрын
Never thought of that! Slick!
@civstu4 жыл бұрын
I gave this a go this afternoon on a new Climber and it worked perfectly on my way up. I decided to face away from the tree to take in the view, but I noticed that the line was wrapped in such a way that it wouldn't allow the prusik to grab and it just slid. So my immediate note to self was to only keep the line inside the carabiner while I was climbing facing the tree, then take it out when I reached the appropriate height. Still a great tip. And thanks for the informative videos.
@TheBudgetSportsman5 жыл бұрын
Great budget saving tip!
@donniewillis29265 жыл бұрын
Like the infamous Wile E. Coyote…. you sir are a SUPER GENIUS, and no Acme products to buy!!!
@josephtreadlightly56862 жыл бұрын
The 8 mm hitchcord bought in bulk is a good bargain. However a person for safety purposes has to be able to know knot tieing. The hitch I tie is the Michoacon which breaks & holds better in both directions. The knot I tie to attach to my carabiner is called a Hunters Bend. Just have to make sure the tag ends r around 3" & that the Hunters Bend is dressed in the right configuration. I would never use a Ropeman. The poor man's ascender works great & u won't have wear & tear from teeth on your lanyard.
@ForgetU4 жыл бұрын
3:58 Prusik tender... Great Idea.
@JasonW4793 жыл бұрын
I just tried this on my crappy muddy linemen’s rope...... you’re the man👍🏻
@xarrow815 жыл бұрын
hey, brother Im not sure but everything that I read is that its a most to have 3 loops on each side of the prusik you have two on each side.
@pickit88385 жыл бұрын
I agree with xarrow81, everything I've ever bought with the Prusik already on it has 3 loops on each side, I thought that was a must for the principal workings of the Prusik knot. But none the less, thank you for the video, I'm going to try it with my 6 loop knot...
@kilowatt95985 жыл бұрын
try the tender with a distel or klemheist hitch, they release much easier than the prusik hitch
@averagejackarchery5 жыл бұрын
I'll have to give that a shot! Thanks!
@1rolmos5 жыл бұрын
I hear the distel hitch works great.
@JayN4GO4 жыл бұрын
Very cool. My lineman’s rope has 2 beners one of each side. I notice this has one and a knot on the other.
@fulldrawcoffeecompany89063 жыл бұрын
Just awesome info! glad to see this now
@andrewe71655 жыл бұрын
That's genius! Can't wait to try this out thanks!
@christopherd79223 жыл бұрын
Great video. I wish you showed how you made the prusik tender.
@averagejackarchery3 жыл бұрын
Make a loop of cord. Tie the loop over itself with an overhand knot. Done.
@ILhunter235 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting this video! I always struggle with my lineman’s belt with a prusik knot
@wvbowhunter12 жыл бұрын
My goodness. I’m a few years late but thank you for this! Just as effective and significantly cheaper!
@andrewmeyer10864 жыл бұрын
This is an insanely smart helpful idea, Thanks
@4bearscamp2194 жыл бұрын
That's great and your excellent speaker! Thanks for sharing!!!
@josefmolenaar22425 жыл бұрын
Great idea! I'll try this out on my setup
@julesvhp51453 жыл бұрын
Great Video, excellent demo and explanation. Cheers.
@samspooner91813 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@huntsail37273 жыл бұрын
This is a great tip. Thanks !
@timothyslover154110 ай бұрын
Rather than the tender, you can run the tail end of the rope through your carabiner and do the same thing by just lifting the rope in the same way.
@glend47044 жыл бұрын
Great video! Can you make a video on HOW to make it? Thanks
@B_r_u_c_e Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@Diffidentone4 жыл бұрын
Great system, but always a good idea to have three coils (6 total) in your prussic, you only have two in the one in the video.
@averagejackarchery4 жыл бұрын
You are correct! I made that mistake and have since rectified it. Thank you!!!
@Diffidentone4 жыл бұрын
@@averagejackarchery Good to hear, keep up the good work.
@samrannantapong78602 жыл бұрын
Great idea
@stevenwebb30075 жыл бұрын
I love it. Thanks for the great info.
@dr4710Ай бұрын
Is there a disadvantage to feeding the loose end of the rope back through the carabiner and have the carabiner move the prusik forward?
@averagejackarcheryАй бұрын
I’ve seen some guys do this but my take on it is I always want the carabiner to be pulled by my main line in one direction and not introduce a feedback loop that could incidentally side load the carabiner. With how cheap a tender is to make, I think it’s worth the investment.
@benjamincooper85315 жыл бұрын
Dude, thank you for making this vid! I'm doing this to my gear once I get home haha.
@nickfowler29955 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Keepem coming brother!
@WVhillDweller5 жыл бұрын
Nice shirt Jack 😂 God bless you bro! Great tip! Saving money and weight thats a winner.
@WVhillDweller5 жыл бұрын
Hay Jack what do you think of this kzbin.info/www/bejne/gnetYn2Gqt9mqpo its the pro Tracker. Do you know if this thing works?
@rickgratton63533 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the video. Your strap tender with the 2 metal loops looked like it worked better and I think if you were to sew the strap to itself and only used 1 loop it might still work well and then would not have the metal on metal sound. Your thoughts?
@averagejackarchery3 жыл бұрын
Yup, would work really well!
@Droowster4 жыл бұрын
love the shirt thank you for the video!
@michaelanthonyoutdoors2 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@davidp.dowling35104 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks for the info. I have question. Are you using a single point of attachment for your linesman rope on the front of your rock climbing harness like in the video or was that just for demonstration. I'd like to go with a single point connection, but wasn't sure how it would work. Thanks!
@averagejackarchery4 жыл бұрын
Nope! That's not a demo that's how I run it! The only issue I ever ran into was a "pinching" of the lineman's belt over top of my climbing sticks as it comes to that one attachment point and not to either hip. But with a little practice I figured it out in no time.
@davidp.dowling35104 жыл бұрын
@@averagejackarchery Thanks I appreciate the info! Blessings!
@whitetailpoet42434 жыл бұрын
Cool. Thanks.
@traviscarter91827 күн бұрын
Add a key chain hoop to your white line will give you a smoother pull.
@jamesmoore11243 жыл бұрын
What can I do to prevent wet rope slipping when one sticking and repel with my mad rock safeguard? I was going to back the safeguard up.
@robertvillafane53084 жыл бұрын
That is awesome Genius, I like it specially the price, thanks for the info
@fernandocarrera659 Жыл бұрын
Man you saved me money thank u
@TheEvandando Жыл бұрын
Excellent
@TheMichiganShow3 жыл бұрын
Have you tried another hitch like the distel or schwabisch with a micro pulley?
@averagejackarchery3 жыл бұрын
I have not!
@TheMichiganShow3 жыл бұрын
@@averagejackarchery I’m transitioning from 4 sticks down to the one stick method and might go that route. Those other hitches release to much easier than the prusik does on my tether
@krownofthorns5 жыл бұрын
Well that’s awesome.
@jonpeterson85104 жыл бұрын
Great tip.
@basicinfo.93153 жыл бұрын
It seems your showing 2 different linesmen ropes. 1 of them has 3 wraps on the Prusik (The one over your neck) but the one your using to demonstrate only has 2 wraps on the Prusik. Is there a reason why? Which do you use with the tender? 3 wraps or 2 wraps on the Prusik?
@avidhuntr3 жыл бұрын
90$ is as cheap as I can find a Ropeman 1 here in Canada......not gonna happen! The tender is the answer, plus quiet as can be, and that plus the weight advantages make it the tool for my saddle
@dietztroyer4 жыл бұрын
Great video, you just saved me some money!
@paulcrave31125 жыл бұрын
Seems my Prusik always locks up so tight that it won’t adjust with a tender. I end up having to unload the knot and loosen it with my hands to get it to move. I find the same happens a with a distal hitch on my tether.
@jbbolts2 жыл бұрын
check out jrb tree climbing hes got an interesting friction hitch
@phaxiong954 жыл бұрын
thank for the idea one hand prussik
@forrestoutdoors27672 жыл бұрын
Amazing!!!
@heybulldog214 жыл бұрын
Hey, I'm not a lineman at all, but I do work with rope during high angle rescue scenarios. I was wondering why you would care about your system being quiet. What is the problem with a few of your metal parts making noise on your tender? Is is a preference or is there a reason behind it?
@averagejackarchery4 жыл бұрын
This is strictly for hunting purposes. Where noise level is paramount. For regular lineman's though noise isn't an issue!
@77blawrence11 ай бұрын
If you feed your tag end from the top of your carabineer down, and pull away from you, it will do the same thing with no extra gear or gadgets.
@Outdoorguy573 жыл бұрын
Outstanding!!! I paused your video, made up one of these loops out of paracord and tested it. Absolutely amazing how well it works and it saved me $45. I actually cancelled an order that I had just placed for a Ropeman 1, after watching your video. Thank you!!!
@stephenmcfarlin12174 жыл бұрын
Great idea and saves $50!
@shadyp-zv3uf4 жыл бұрын
You need to put one more loop in that prusik so it has six count at least to be considered a true prusik they say it's not as safe just having one made with two loops around your linemans belt or any rope.
@averagejackarchery4 жыл бұрын
You are correct! I took out one loop to over-exaggerate the size disparity of the tender vs the prusik length. I neglected to say so in the video. Thanks!
@shadyp-zv3uf4 жыл бұрын
It's all good dude just thought I would point it out so people know if they don't already. Not trying to be a butt hole or anything...lol good luck this season I've watched you for 3 years right after I started getting serious with a bow and you have help me a lot.... I just used a little paracord and made me a prusik tender, it helps a lot and way easy to make! Thanks man and good luck to us all. You have any tips for a limb wi6a hairline crack going down the side? Hasn't affected my bow to much but definitely want to do something till get limbs replaced or get a new one.
@dongramling51834 жыл бұрын
Good education
@Knifeinyolife5 жыл бұрын
Wow genius
@buckstop10312 жыл бұрын
This is new to me. Will rain effect a prusik in any way?
@averagejackarchery2 жыл бұрын
It can, yes. But it would take an absolute soaking. If anything, it might actually bind tighter due to the slicker feel.
@billlewis18463 жыл бұрын
Thought Prussics have 6 loops. Does that make a difference.
@averagejackarchery3 жыл бұрын
I've run a tender with 4, 6, and 8 loops with success.
@phaxiong954 жыл бұрын
Thank you i mean
@johnbriscoe74474 жыл бұрын
So you have to feed all 30 feet of your tag end to your linesmen rope threw that little hole ?
@averagejackarchery4 жыл бұрын
Your lineman's belt should only be about 8ft long at the most. And no, just the remaining 2-3 feet of tag end.
@briavancleve38635 жыл бұрын
awesome channel
@branchingdowntotheroots75052 жыл бұрын
I like it.
@MotorcycleMouse4 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@BobbyGats3 жыл бұрын
How do I tie those loops
@cjr44973 жыл бұрын
I tried tenders but I am too fat. I use a pair of ropeman's. There were too many times my hitches cinched up too tight for one handed operation. From what I understand this works fine for sub 200# guys.
@averagejackarchery3 жыл бұрын
I'm a solid 220 in street clothes. Easily 235# with a full pack. Still works great.
@chrisunruh64852 жыл бұрын
Does the tender work with a shcwabish knot?
@averagejackarchery2 жыл бұрын
I have no idea. Lol.
@chrisunruh64852 жыл бұрын
@@averagejackarchery I just grabbed my stuff and tried it. IT WORKS! If you haven’t tried that knot you should try it out. They release a little easier but still hold under load just the same
@lonewolfforge76034 жыл бұрын
Or just use a double prusik...one on each side allows one handed operation under load. Main difference is pulling down instead of pulling up with a tender. Nice vid. Though
@cameroncunningham6872 жыл бұрын
Seems like you could use another carabiner
@phaxiong954 жыл бұрын
I want to special thank you for saving me 40 to 50$ with the handed prussik operation
@mikesniadecki55003 жыл бұрын
Just use a micro pulley to tend the hitch.
@larryaveritt68515 жыл бұрын
If you took a d-ring out of your kids webbing, and sewed it to the other side, that would be a pretty neat little solution too. If you make one and it works, send me one :)
@digitaltrip4203 жыл бұрын
Thankyou. Save me some CASH broku! Now I do not need that ropeman I did not wanna buy XD
@dawheele1Ай бұрын
Why not just use a cam strap? It's cheap and plenty strong enough to lean on and one handed operation. I also use a cam strap bridge, it has a 500 lb working load and it's cheap, plenty strong to hang from and one handed operation. I use a 11 mm rope to tether and repel from but I'd use a strap for that to but my mad rock won't work with strap.
@paulcrave31123 жыл бұрын
Why can’t you just run the tag end of your lanyard through the carabiner?
@averagejackarchery3 жыл бұрын
You'll find the end of the carabiner is too wide and won't get a good push and loosening of the prusik. The knot will just slip into the carabiner. The smaller diameter of a tender ring/rope loop is much better suited.