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This video is a demonstration of different methods you can utilize to make entry as the one man conducting CQB. The key to these techniques is determining at what speed you can move, based on your ability to engage targets. The vast majority of cops are not on a team and if they do have help it isn't adequate. Therefore, your ability to be individual capable is imperative.
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[@Forward_Concepts]

The link to my new channel is in the description of this video. All my content will be there from now on. I appreciate everyone who helped me build this channel.

[@user-dp3ff2li8g]

"Before your body is exposed, your shadow has already betrayed you."

[@saddamhussintandih5269]

That's y u have turn off the light 2:45

[@ST33ZIN420]

Yep

[@mie4248]

lol

[@mrhunt0341]

“Oh you think darkness is your friend? You merely adopted the dark, I was born in it. Raised by it.”

[@glcartm]

🤦🏻‍♂️....

[@handled99]

I like these highly technical breakdowns. No one else is doing them.

[@Forward_Concepts]

Yepppp

[@overlordisgoogle8431]

Hell yeah

[@dad2022]

Have you not SEEN American kinetix vids? Fmr ground branch guys @AM-KX cover #cqb #psd #edc #surveillance and a lot more. Detailed breakdowns, just sayin…it’s out there.

[@Forward_Concepts]

@@dad2022 fud

[@samseven5260]

You’re missing it. High rep operators are all over the place showing how to process a room.

[@tacd962]

Marines were clearing house to house with 20"! Keep up the content Brother!! Good stuff!!

[@Forward_Concepts]

Amen!

[@seaocean4868]

yep and thats where they learned its not ideal thus shorter rifles became a priority also the ammo they use burns the powder faster to accommodate the shorter barrel.

[@kerbalairforce8802]

Marines get shitty equipment and makes it work. If you are building your own gear, you have an advantage.

[@kerbalairforce8802]

Also, Marine manuals dictate that rooms should be cleared with hand grenades whenever possible.

[@bigboss7189]

18-20 inch AR’s are the best. Velocity over coolness any day

[@AJohnSmith]

Had to draw all my blinds; neighbors would get me SWATTED.

[@Forward_Concepts]

Faded

[@DS-nw4eq]

Yes, I do the same thing.

[@glator58]

Articulate. Concise. Simple. Your train of thought and continuity makes understanding what you say in these videos extremely easy; good stuff too.

[@Forward_Concepts]

I appreciate it

[@zacharyschellinger4769]

A lot of LE calls if not most are to residential housing. The exterior door might be wide enough to not really impede entry with the rifle in the shoulder but interior doors are typically narrower. Look up single interior prehung door at Home Depot or other big box store and most are 30 inches. That’s the width of the door not actual width of the threshold which with trim is closer to 29.5 and narrower if the room design doesn’t allow the door to swing 180. Add a suppressor to the rifle like some departments require and the keeping the rifle in the shoulder technique will telegraph more prior to entry. I’m sure this video isn’t saying there’s one solution but compression does have its place depending on equipment and environment.

[@Forward_Concepts]

It does, but in you do realize that in my example of a button hook the doorway was 28 inches. Which is less than the 29.5 you provided. I am by no means saying this is the only way to do it. Only to present it, along with the considerations, and people can decide for themselves. However, you cannot have both. Minimizing telegraphing (which I actually think is mostly something imagined rather than a practical consideration at that speed) or tenths of seconds slower to the target. Because compression means your muzzle takes a little longer to get there. I'll have a video coming of much narrower examples than neither you or I provided so far to check out. When I do "compress" or "retract" I do it up over the shoulder because It just feels more natural to me.

[@e0001030]

Sometimes I don't get why LE got 16 inch barrel AR as their patrol rifle. It's not like they really engage suspects at such distance (thats the job for the police sniper) - most of the time they need to enter a house, a walmart or a connivence store which a 10.5 or so make much more sense

[@Forward_Concepts]

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[@TheJohnBrowningGunClub]

lmfao...my friends would roast me if i shared this lol even

[@dad2022]

Fud

[@ryanbolander6117]

Why was high ready not an option?? Department policy?? Unless something changed the lasted couple years high ready is typically the preferred entry..unless your an 18xray teacher lol. No technique works every time but jw why you said No go

[@DylanBegazo]

Can I ask you for your credentials? Where did you learn all of this and what more can you present to add to your credibility for your audience? I’m liking these videos so far. Figured I’d ask.

[@dad2022]

@@DylanBegazo internet warrior…

[@wittmer341]

Keep in mind when you make entry with your rifle high it occludes your vision of the suspects “whole body hands, waistline, and demeanor”. This means either your reaction time will be slower because you can’t see the things you need to see or you running the risk of a bad shoot.

[@Forward_Concepts]

This is something talked about often. It isn't something I have ever heard anyone actually experience. However, as seen in the SF videos, when its time to take a room (with a bad guy waiting to shoot you), time to the target is of the highest importance. If you enter at the highest threshold ready to engage, but don't need to because bad guy is not shooting...then you adjust accordingly, which is great for everyone. With both eyes open I wonder what the potential could be that what you need to see is actually obscured...and I believe that if it was the most important consideration then I doubt nearly everyone would enter this way. You are not wrong, but I feel like this needs to be explored much more. IMO you would need to balance the pinnacle of preparedness over what's probably an extreme improbability.

[@wittmer341]

@@Forward_Concepts this depends of course on the situation. If you’re in the middle of Fallujah, the issue of a potentially bad shoot is minimal. In a LEO context where you may be called upon to make a hostage rescue shot, or you’re rescuing a family member, it’s of the utmost importance. When doing target discrimination drills I see this with students all the time where they emphasize speed and make bad shots.

[@therealjohnsmith4811]

@@Forward_Concepts Love the video, and what you were doing. But have targets placed lower than eye level between the door and the corner. If you come in with that view obstructed, you will miss targets that are sleeping /laying on the floor, crouched down, or you may have to move around furniture or other obstructions. You will have to either move your rifle or your head to make sure that you can walk where you need to walk or you will have to lower your rifle to illuminated an area where it may not have been properly oriented. Not all targets are standing up in the corner, waiting for you to shoot them. And, as the OP said, you need a clear unobstructed view to assess whether or not that person is or is not a threat.

[@sethdbrown30]

​@@wittmer341100% agree. Early in my Leo career I would make some bad shots in scenario based training. And it was purely because I was trying to be as fast as possible on target. I found that taking that extra quarter second will save you from making bad shots. When I train the new guys in my department I always tell them to take that extra quarter second to make a decision before shooting.

[@wittmer341]

Your initial entry should leave you an arms distance off the wall as well. This gets you out of the line of fire for the worst case scenario of someone aimed in at the door waiting for you and allows a support element to support you on either side. Also my comments here are meant to be constructive. Please keep in mind that the most likely time you’ll be doing this type entry is when someone needs rescued such as an active shooter scenario where there will likely be victims in the room and you WILL need to do target discrimination.

[@danmosse9170]

Great video. Very refreshing to see an instructor demonstrating techniques that work 99% of the time.

[@Forward_Concepts]

I’ve got some more on the topic

[@bigpapijose4]

Thank you for clearing things up for me bro. All of your videos have been extremely helpful, appreciate it man, stay safe out there.

[@Forward_Concepts]

You got it

[@deonmixon]

I currently practice at home with my kit on. Haven't been to a shoot house yet. Of all the videos I've seen though of veterans demonstrating these options, I'm most comfortable with over the shoulder (retracted) and in the shoulder. High ready and low ready feel very obstructive to me but mainly high ready. My punch out (presentation) is much smoother and more stable when my stock is over the shoulder. I'm right handed and my house is very small so not many thresholds to test. All that to say: seems like the consensus is to (1) do what's most comfortable for you and (2) do what's most effective for your team if you are with others. If I'm allowed to do (1) regardless of team size, then I'm doing that and idc what #1 guy or #2 and #3 guy does. I'd obviously adjust to not flag. As I'm writing this I realize (cuz I'm still learning) that if I'm in a stack, then whatever is best for my team's safety takes priority and I think vets recommend high ready. But I can imagine all members in over-the-shoulder position too and their muzzles facing diagonally slightly downward and away... Anyway, great video! Great points for convo and training!

[@SKATEit38]

Wow man, you killed this. Haven’t seen a breakdown like this! Thorough and educational!

[@BigJDinSC]

I’ve done my share of training. In most cases, you’re told “this is the best way to do it” instead of breaking down different approaches (I’m sure available time and resources strongly influence that). In my experience, the best instructors are the ones willing to examine and pressure test a variety of techniques. Loving these videos 👍.

[@Forward_Concepts]

Thanks for sharing!

[@AndricAndrija]

My humble opinion is that this depends on the type of work you are doing. We were taught in LE (Europe) that keeping the rifle lower helps you confirm target identity faster. I understand that might not be a big issue when fighting enemy combatants. I learned so much and you help me keep my opinion in check, or change it entirely as I learn new information. Thank you for making content and helping us improve!

[@clarkbell5084]

So glad I found this channel, straight to the point great info backed up by multiple angles and slowmo breakdowns. love it man. Keep doing the lords work where you are.

[@Forward_Concepts]

Thanks!! More to come!

[@clarkbell5084]

Can't wait! although you have Kinetic Concepts now, I'm STS till I meet Christ. Felt moved to say this but, seek God first and the answers will come when and where needed, I'm 26 with 2 kids and finally come to the realization after much damage done to my life, marriage and family, I'm finally living for God and it's far from boring like I thought it'd be, his plan for us is always there, all we have to do is submit and commit to it, anyways, I say it with Love and understanding, we all got area's to work on, and once fixed, another to address, stay blessed man. -Clark @@Forward_Concepts

[@tnh723]

My dude, your content is pure quality! Please keep up the good work! May this channel grow. I am totally sharing this to like-minded friends

[@Forward_Concepts]

Thanks, will do!

[@ghostkilla2016]

I thinks its a better be safe than sorry situation, consistency is key if it ever get jammed that could telegraph and it only takes it happening once to end you.

[@reliablethreat23]

Keep up the excellent work, big dawg. God bless you!

[@Forward_Concepts]

I appreciate that!

[@terrarecon]

Good content, solid and logical. This an area where I find bullpups come into their own. People may or may not prefer them, that is a decision agencies and individuals will have to vet out.

[@Sergeant_Blain]

great, real tactics not that other internet bullshit, blessed to have found this! real down to earth.

[@luissantosshihan3600]

Thank you for giving us the different variation to learn. God Bless

[@Forward_Concepts]

You got it

[@wtdconcepts]

I see the merits of different approaches for different situations. But you got me thinking that the tradeoff of triggering a room sooner with your barrel poking through may be worth already having the buttstock in your shoulder. I'll definitely be testing this on the range. Thanks, great video!

[@shaynehawkins713]

Good technique. I have an ar 6 stinger 2 repeating crossbow. I would enter straight as well. I have bodkin tipped bolts that go through bullet proof vests that stop 9 mm bullets. In warfare I would coat the tips in tabbaco tar. It stops breathing in seconds.

[@MikeJones-jr6wp]

Just hit your 1k and subscribed. Keep up the good work and videos man. I’m in my part of life to train and be war ready if need be. All advice is appreciated! Thanks for the great video and knowledge!

[@Forward_Concepts]

You got it!

[@desertcrimedogg]

Another great breakdown. You reinforced my techniques and experience. Too many get caught up in the high speed low drag sf world. While I like some stuff they put out, not all is practical to non war scenarios

[@Forward_Concepts]

Word

[@nonvisi79]

Good shit bro. A good follow up to this video now, is chasing the rabbit (moving laterally) vs to that point of threat or domination.

[@Forward_Concepts]

Yeah that’s coming

[@saybo88]

Great explanation and content good Sir , I always questioned the theatrics with CQB/room clearing…it’s preference of course…but it’s the economy of motion with shoulder level and of course proper shot placements to the bad guys…just subbed!!!

[@Forward_Concepts]

Amen!

[@copperp_2381]

As long as your not sacrificing to much of your barrel being through the threshold before your eyes are than it makes total sense to leave it in your shoulder

[@enraikow6109]

i know it's pretty late, but i'd love to see the technicalities in using a bullpup rifle for CQB in regard to these kinds of problems.

[@obsidian263]

You should add some glass or heavy metal storm doors on the front that hit you in the back as you're going in.

[@Forward_Concepts]

It’s not my facility

[@mk_choudhary1186]

This is called the stuff bro ❤

[@sethdbrown30]

I like keeping the stock in the shoulder but at the low ready position. I found that if you're looking through the optic you will miss a lot of things that are going on at the waistline and below. When at the low ready you have more situational awareness and can see the suspect's hands and waistline and make better and quicker decisions and ur only losing .25 second

[@Forward_Concepts]

Point .25 seconds is a long time when the guy already has a gun pointed at the threshold

[@Parable_One]

This makes so much sense.

[@Daniel.m.a.t]

gran trabajo .... felicidades

[@CtrlAltRetreat]

A lot of the prefabs and mobioe homes that will need clearing around here have doors barely wider than shoulder width coming from hallways that are likewise as narrow into a room with an open door and will require checking the corner toward the direction you're coming from. Given those walls are concealment and not cover, you'd need to put that.muzzle past the doorway a long time before you could get eyes on a guy hiding behind furniture in the corner and risk.getting shot to heck through that wall based on your muzzle positioning before even seeing who it's coming from. I think handguns and shotguns short stocked over the shoulder get plus points for trailer park clearance.

[@murmillo666]

Thanks. This will be super useful the next time I enrol my children in the American school system.

[@djay2_96]

Keeping your back close to the threshold, thus making a wider arc, obviously allows you to keep the gun up and manage your exposure past the threshold much better. That combined with a lean in and high elbow (for the strong side buttonhook) allows you to get in with the gun up quite easily. It's a positioning technique, not a result of a ready position. Getting close would obviously mean you have to overpenetrate with the muzzle before being able to PID your corner or anyone inside. It also slows down the whole entry for the whole team if for whatever reason you need to get inside the room fast instead of engaging targets from the threshold as you are entering. So where you position yourself in relation to the threshold, the size of the portal, and direction of travel make the difference and are the decisive factor as to if you need or need not to retract the gun and how well you can manage the exposure prior committing to the room and being able to visually clear it. A lot changes based on your position in the stack or upon the entry itself. Say I end up doing this wide buttonhook (wider arc) and I have a #2 coming behind me - I spend more time in the threshold and close a gap that the #2 can explore and negotiate to make their entry. Last nut not least, the stock in the shoulder obviously makes you less maneuverable because of the connection to the rifle. And some ready positions end up pushing your closer or futher away from the side of the frame you are facing (that is if you decide to go for the narrowest arc possible to enable your #2 to get in quickly). Some teams just adopted different SOPs based on different priorities, like the high ready being a combatives position. What I think is also left undiscussed is if you finish your scan from the threshold into the corner and back to 1 m away from the #2's muzzle, or immediately clear your corner, ignoring the rest of the room and finishing the primary scan afterwards. Because that also dictates a lot of things. Lastly, any person or a piece of furniture that you don't see from outside the threshold can also pose a problem based on the length of the gun. Retracting also keeps things more universal across different platforms, because I would not want to enter gun up with a handgun due to retention concerns. The Dev guy in the vid are airsofters. Most I know or have seen argue for retracting. Some Green guys do to. Kyle Morgan teaches that. Regardless of anyone's view or preferences, it's worth knowing and being able to do all the ready positions and enter mounted and know the positioning differences on the entry (and the type of entry) itself and how that also influences the selection or performance of different ready positions. And how that dictates footwork differences (POLR - gun mounted - I need to keep my hips oriented toward the 45 degrees to clear the frame due to the length of the rifle x retracting I can keep them and the plates oriented toward the corner - minute differences that end up making you more or less efficient). Great vid btw. It helps generate discussion and question dogmas.

[@Forward_Concepts]

Well thought out and respectable comment, thank you.

[@womplad9864]

I remember having an M4 during a training exercise everyone else had M16s on and they still made me shoulder stock it instead of letting me fully collapse it. TBF it was my first time doing CQB and they probably didn't want people to think I had an advantage but I really did for a lot of reasons

[@Forward_Concepts]

Sounds like government work

[@Freddonzolo90]

Gotta say, this channel is it. No bullshit, straight to it, demonstrations of concepts (including "bad" ones) from multiple angles with explanations that make sense in plain English. Gonna send the homies your way. Stay safe

[@Forward_Concepts]

I appreciate it!

[@Nico-hq6db]

interesting content, if I'm not mistaken the first video where it says devgru, it is an airsoft team, beyond that I think that when you work alone you use everything you can according to the situations, it is important to have all the tools available, then you decide what is better for you, when you work as a team than if the way of seeing things changes, especially with high ready, high compress, low ready or whatever, especially as a 2 man in the formation, having the weapon in the shoulder being the 2nd can be problematic for your partner or simply have little room for maneuver. Now the demonstrations you do I see almost no differences, they are fast and efficient

[@Forward_Concepts]

They were shooting live rounds…and idk that’s what the video said and looked legit to me. I agree as two man problematic.

[@flob621]

@@Forward_ConceptsAt 6'54, it is an airsoft team, in a real training center.

[@user-sn4fc7bc5j]

This is something I've honestly always wondered. I'm glad to see someone actually putting the science into the argument instead of just "it works better because I did..."

[@Forward_Concepts]

It’s not the best I can do, but what I’m capable of right now …more to come !

[@user-sn4fc7bc5j]

@@Forward_Concepts You did a good job man 💯 I'm excited to see what comes in time. I know content creating is something that definitely takes time and it certainly comes with little upgrades a little at a time. You're killing it though man 🤙💯

[@seaocean4868]

great video man, thank you!

[@Forward_Concepts]

Glad you liked it!

[@seanwhite304]

Very informative video .

[@Karl6.5CM]

Interesting takes that make absolute sense

[@Forward_Concepts]

Thanks !

[@eliezermartinez.]

As for the special forces, we know that you have already lost your leg, the leg goes in a straight line with the walls, they cannot exit. If it exits to the right, the right leg goes in front and aligned with the exit without exiting. If it comes out to the left, the left leg in front aligned with the wall without taking out a finger, just remove the body from the waist so you can use your tank-like movements. (Waist movements, He leaves and enters. He leaves and enters.

[@smalltowncop4907]

I agree with keeping the rifle shouldered as much as you can, even in low ready. But my low ready is just low enough to ensure I see hands and looking over the rifle. One question, and I agree with Project Echo on this, if we have pied the whole room already, why step out and approach the threat corner when you can keep as much as your body as possible out of view, though technically not out of fire, by staying at the door frame? The ability to flinch out, a natural human response, pays off then. I would say run the rabbit if you want two guns on target

[@Forward_Concepts]

This was a demonstration on how to enter the threshold and get your gun through…not about tactical decision making. However, the angels don’t change as far as what’s required to make that happen, regardless if you run the rabbit or go to the unknown.

[@smalltowncop4907]

@@Forward_Concepts oh okay, i see what you mean now. I kept seeing you from the threat perspective, but you were talking a more isolated point

[@Mounty621]

Solid, logical methodology. I still have issue with “high ready,” but your logic works for me too. The only way to test it is with Simmunitions and a human bad guy.

[@Forward_Concepts]

Best way to test would be absent the bad guy and simply rounds to target. Adding a bad guy introduces bad guy ability and time (perception) ..if you want to see the fastest way to target it would take some careful analyzing and I think it would be tough given variables. It would come down to averages

[@Mounty621]

@@Forward_Concepts But we're not testing rounds on target on shot timers. We're testing real life reactionary gaps and observing perceived threats.

[@AsianTrix]

Yes, size matters. Some would argue that it is calibre and not barrel length.

[@eljefeamericano4308]

If any of you out there intend to practice this stuff, set up a camera, or your phone, and record your entry into the room from that deep corner. Observe how much of your body you're exposing to that location before you ever get your eyes, and your muzzle, pointed toward your camera. Make what adjustments you can to minimize that. It might seem great from your own perspective, but you need to be aware of what your foe is going to see.

[@Forward_Concepts]

See precious video

[@righteousone8454]

10.3 is amazing for tight corners, and I wouldn't even mind going lower than that, if I was doing CQB for a law enforcement side. You will easily take that corner and be ready, but better wear ear protection, those short barrels are insane

[@la5081]

Thanks for the video. I just subscribed.

[@Forward_Concepts]

I appreciate you!

[@thedefinitive6296]

Makes a lot of sense to me seeing where you end up once you cross the threshold. I like having different tools in my toolbox so I'm not one of those people who believes in "never do ___", but I don't see too many reasons to move the gun any more than is necessary and you did a great job of demonstrating how unnecessary it some techniques are. In your experience, is there much if any disadvantage to breaking the threshold muzzle first like that before you're able to push into the room? A lot of what I've heard over the years has been more geared towards not doing that.

[@Forward_Concepts]

I think you don’t have a choice …right? And it makes sense to get the thing in there that’s ultimately going to deliver the round ya know.

[@chatdeblanc]

All I have is a handgun, can/should I still apply similar tactics with Low vs High ready? Or because of the inherently small nature, should I already be in a sort of instinct/point shooting stance when I enter?

[@aakkllss_9049]

Maybe now Ill stop getting lit up in airsoft trying to clear rooms. Thanks for the vid

[@Forward_Concepts]

Not sure how much help it would be since airsoft you can blindly fire into rooms and corners before you ever see itn

[@its_jd]

Your aproach depends on the intel on the threat ur police so normally your gun is pointed down for identification but if you know its just a threat based on your intel fastest up and ready approach to clear the room

[@ArtesmarcialesJKD]

Excellent channel

[@tannerhouse4505]

Curiosity on muzzle up techniques. If any tips. New here just liked and subscribed.

[@Forward_Concepts]

As in ready up drills? I have a video on that where I’m on the range with the rifle doing ready up drills.

[@tannerhouse4505]

@@Forward_Concepts No sir. Coming through doorways, with muzzle up. If that makes sense, is there more videos? I like detailed videos like such above. Thanks for the swift response too.

[@alotl1kevegas860]

Excellent content.

[@Forward_Concepts]

Much appreciated!

[@kodeylivesay1353]

I like that your saying my opinion and these are some options not this is the only way cqc is so dynamic flexibility is the way

[@bobjr.8033]

I see how this makes sense when moving at a faster speed with a normal door size. I'm assuming you would use over the shoulder when going through smaller openings. Things like closets or piles of junk or any others strange openings

[@Forward_Concepts]

In a true confined space yes. But I’ll have another video demonstrating the same technique on much smaller frames

[@bobjr.8033]

@@Forward_Concepts awesome! Would you opt for in the shoulder if you were going through a confined entrance at a higher speed? Your breakdowns and demonstrations have been informative and helpful btw

[@GODS_W4RRI0R]

Solid technique 👌

[@Forward_Concepts]

Thanks!

[@kerbalairforce8802]

Seems like a good argument for a PDW on the pointman.

[@35C24696]

What are your thoughts on hopping the door for a hasty threshold evaluations before fully committing to the room (Having the rest of the room mostly visually cleared leaving only the deep corners)?

[@35C24696]

Also… good stuff, earned my sub.

[@eggshake761]

I thought they would get something shorter like a SMG for situation like this. But, if you have to use your rifle, I guess you could.

[@cristobaltorres6185]

Good doctrine.

[@darkySp]

So from what I understand, short-stocking and shouldered are almost the same, but the difference between them is that short-stocking telegraphs the entry less to give you more time to react\assess, while shouldered telegraphs it more but keeps your muzzle level with the target, so you can shoot earlier into the entry than short-stocking. Did I get it right or do I need more sleep ? Haha

[@Forward_Concepts]

I guess the argument based on how I see it is…in terms of exposure basically no difference. At least not a difference that’s quantifiable in terms of making a difference in the suspects ability to react to exposure or “grab” your muzzle. It’s not really about being level with the target since the target can be anywhere…but more about being closer to a legitimate and familiar shooting position faster.

[@yaroslavalekseev4620]

The devil is in the little things! You're really cool! Keep on burning

[@Forward_Concepts]

Thanks!

[@RomaYT999]

Just peek from above, there is a gap between the walls and the ceiling. Having a tactical stool seems like an OP idea here.

[@Forward_Concepts]

Huh

[@jakeells66]

What about under your arm? Vietnam style? (Joking)

[@brasileiroloko5375]

i love that sight

[@Forward_Concepts]

Same

[@NotYourFriendPal]

Good vid!

[@Will-dq2sb]

I would like to point out that SFs train to be in high ready while clearing rooms. This is done for a multitude of reasons, such as not flagging the teammates head while opening the door and being in a better position should potential combatants be behind the door from grabbing the rifle upon you entering the room.just some random comments.

[@granitejeepc3651]

For leo use---why dont you keep a spare short upper in your vehicle and pop it on if you need to do a building specific entry.

[@Forward_Concepts]

Idk seems like a lot to think about and ultimately not necessary

[@roidrage713]

Great Vid thanks

[@Forward_Concepts]

No problem 👍

[@RedDawnReadiness]

I wish you would have done the high ready or high guard position comparison with this, similar discussion with the Shawn Ryan and Mike Glover, Glover was used to a low ready and Shawn most preferable to the high ready… I think what you came to was the best was keeping the roly poly shouldered I just think the one part i would have liked you to address is is turning toward the threat or being committed to going to the corner or also again in a stack… how that could effect things, maybe in a stagnant stack effect it more but if everyone is moving having enough space between each so that’s more effective, I think alone you keep the rifle in the pocket or #1 but a little hard to being #2 or especially 3 and 4 as you have your guys right in front of you ?

[@Forward_Concepts]

Correct. Only as the #1. Remember that the only reason ever given for collapsing the rifle down (regardless it’s high or low) was to have the ability to make it through the threshold….well that’s the reasoning. Once through the threshold they shoulder it. Therefore, if we can skip step 1 to get it step 2…by starting at step 2…it is a matter of fact that it’s more efficient. As far as your first question CQB has fundamental principles, of which require you to systematically complete tasks. As the 1 and 2 man, you have to check the hard corners before focusing elsewhere…this is why checking center from outside the room is preferred …it narrows your focus and reduces the information load on your cognitive ability to process information and make a decision..which ultimately reduces the time it takes to get to the bad guy. Too much information can be catastrophic when you don’t have enough problem solving taking place…whether that be a time, personel, or equipment issue. CQB requires you to solve many problems at once, which is impossible. The fewer problems that need solved when crossing the threshold, the greater the likelihood of success.

[@RedDawnReadiness]

@@Forward_Concepts 🫡 good stuff ! Your videos are awesome bro! If you ever have time for a small channel like mine to do a podcast or something collaboration together that would be a blessing, I have a few topics I think we could enjoy discussing. Thanks again for the reply

[@jeffho1109]

Sorry, I am new to this, but for a police officer, can he/she store two rifles, one being long and one being short for all different settings? It makes sense if you are fighting in a war, where you need to be active both on the plain field and clearing houses while using one rifle, but for daily self defense or police officer i think the smart way is to have options? Thank you for clearing it up for me in advance, have a great day.

[@Forward_Concepts]

Cops don’t need options, they don’t know how to use the stuff they have. The video demonstrates that you can effectively and efficiently get the job done with at least a 31 inch rifle (total length) which is well beyond what most people use to clear rooms.

[@StarwindIV]

This is why bullpups excel at cqb.

[@davidelzinga9757]

I’m pretty sure the shooting world only accepts AR-15s for training and any task. It’s disappointing that so many people fail to take advantage of modern bullpup offerings

[@AnyDayNow360]

Thanks!

[@Forward_Concepts]

No thank you!

[@kingdomofvinland8827]

I wonder why a bullpup rifle wasn’t used at all in this test as confined spaces such as this is where bullpup rifles accel compared to their more traditional counterparts

[@Forward_Concepts]

Because I don’t have one …and cops don’t run one.

[@user-lt6qo8no5p]

А в реальных боевых действиях, так же в кепке?

[@veiledallegory]

The other issue with an over the shoulder method is not getting a proper shoulder position which will mess up your cheek weld and force you to search for your sights or dot!

[@Forward_Concepts]

Whatever you find works for you

[@blerimsadiku9984]

So bullpup is the solution?

[@SparkyMTB]

Great video.. but you should add a wild card & have a bullpup & show people the difference & advantages

[@Forward_Concepts]

Don’t have one, but with my buttstock collapsed it’s butter

[@user-mj4em1ym7x]

I don't know anything about US forces. I wanna know what kind special force is more efficient inside small building?

[@Forward_Concepts]

Idk

[@user-mj4em1ym7x]

@@Forward_Concepts MTF xD

[@user-rs9ys6ly5n]

size matter or not ask the desk officers on fourth floor

[@Forward_Concepts]

lol

[@smag9875]

Imagine if the room have a multiple a joining room with all open doors and expose your self like that in fatal panel..

[@Bombsuitsandkilts]

I think this doesn't take in to account that you can effectively engage from a short stock and under arm, and you can continue firing until the rifle is on your shoulder. If you don't train that then I wouldn't suggest it but one of the main issues with rifle in the shoulder is the leverage advantage anyone has as your muzzle comes in the door, i.e. as an instructor I've grabbed tons of guns and held people in the doorway, but out of the shoulder they retract and shoot me in the face and clear the doorway for the team.

[@Forward_Concepts]

This falls into the category of “can.” A lot of things can be done…if you’re taking an enemy trench go for it…if your a cop in any capacity inside any structure, not a great idea.

[@Bombsuitsandkilts]

@Kinetic_Concepts1 I agree, context and nuance are definitely the unsexy part that needs to happen before people start running into buildings

[@gilblake8388]

This method is also used by the delta guys?

[@Forward_Concepts]

Not sure

[@highdesertdog]

Respect

[@Forward_Concepts]

Thanks!

[@scout3058]

Great video/information. I just can't get over that stupid C clamp and fully extended support arm. 😊

[@Forward_Concepts]

What other grip is there

[@scout3058]

@KineticConcepts_Group I have always used a semi under the handguard grip, with a handstop/angled foregrip. Before those were invented I just used a semi cradle grip with thumb and fingers gripping the sides of the handguard, and a partially bent elbow. I did this in the Marine Corps infantry and as a cop, after that. I tried the C clamp and it was so disruptive to my performance that I stopped. I asked a shooting instructor from DSA in Tulsa about it, and he said "If you can get good first hits and fast, accurate follow up shots without C clamping it, then don't C clamp it." I was not SF, or some high tier operator. I was a grunt, and running about in a gunfight as a grunt with that straight out arm and C clamp is a big fat no-go. Again, I was not some operator, so maybe they found a use for it that I'm unaware of. But nobody out here on Main St. USA is an operator in combat either so I just don't understand it. As for clearing of structures, I have no arguement with what was shown in the video.

[@LongTimeNoSeeMe]

1:42 We talk about exposure ... and maybe that is a big deal for you.. Me: YESSS YESSSSS #ScreamingInsideStayCalmOutside

[@Forward_Concepts]

Let’s go !

[@bradaen]

Interesting. But aren't you concerned about perhaps not being able to see the assailants's hands clearly (weapon or not) if moving in already shouldered?

[@Forward_Concepts]

No in not, priority is seeing and hearing “bang”

[@hambone950]

question why mess around with the safety when breaching?

[@Forward_Concepts]

Entering you mean? Not sure what you mean by breaching since nothing was being breached. Safety comes off when engaging then back on.

[@hambone950]

@@Forward_Concepts yes and why the safety tho? why not clear the structure first then apply the safety? i feel like its more stuff to worry about under stress, same reason people say dont use carry guns with safeties?

[@nuraly78]

While the "rifle in shoulder" technique exposed barrel is not as big of an issue as exposed entering leg

[@Forward_Concepts]

Well there’s tons of dudes hiding behind doors waiting to grab the first 3 inches of your barrel…so…good luck. Also you see leg using both methods

[@nuraly78]

@KineticConcepts_Group sorry for my bad English. I meant exposing your barrel is lesser of a problem, as you're already exposing your leg 🦵 anyway. Nevertheless, "rifle in shoulder" is only technique ordinary grunts are trained in most ex-USSR militaries

[@Rocksteadypete]

Very, very NICE! As an "airsofter", I come across with a lot of "campers" resulting in a kind of standoff. Not so much realistic (I quess) en centainly a spoiler for the millsim guys. I hope you can comment on that. I look forward to your next vid. Regards for Rotterdam, The Netherlands!

[@Forward_Concepts]

Next video coming in 45 min. If you have a question I can address it but not sure what you were looking for a comment on exactly.

[@The_Assassin_of_The_Gray]

Never thought the day would arrive where a 14.5 M4A1 would be declared a "musket"

[@Forward_Concepts]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@The_Assassin_of_The_Gray]

@@Forward_Concepts Solid presentation with well-thought out explanation of your TTPs

[@laszloracz4072]

Nem értem miért mutatják ilyen kitolt könyökkel a behatolást. A behatolás pillanatában elárulja a kéztartás és már eltalálják azonnal.

[@blizte3]

stock collapsed help over shoulder no

[@Moppup]

Eye, Muzzle,Target. Easy peasy.