One Overlooked Detail in WW2 Shooters

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[@ashtaka]

Munancho flexing his guns knowledge with 4 videos in 2 days.

[@luciusfox7821]

It's a Brandon Herrera in covering.)))

[@lieutenantratman748]

ok so battlefield 1 is now officially the most historically detailed game I know like holy shit how do they even think of asking "were shotgun shells before the 60's really plastic or they were brass"

[@munanchoinc]

Brass shells were only used at the very tail end of WW1 like the BAR. It was used very late into the war . And thus soldiers experience an unreliable cartridge. Being forced to work with Paper ones.

[@bo-dine7971]

You don't have to be particularly inteligent to know that kind of plastics didn't exist back then.. I knew some of these games like CoD were innacurate even when I was a child, surely a grown adult modelling the shells would use his brain just for a second? Not CoD devs I guess..

[@Bobegnopes]

fr I hope to god one day another game will be as good as BF1 Imagine cod and the old bf1 developers, and maybe unreal engine, and the developers of insurgency sandstorm all getting together

[@manender1020]

@@Bobegnopes milsim game about WW1?

[@docternoblex]

@@munanchoinc typically the paper ones only had problems if they weren’t waxed, which was a common practice for shotgun shells at the time. Especially considering that they were marketed towards farmers and police, who have to be able to work in all kinds of weather

[@ComfortsSpecter]

BF1: “OH MUH GAW, Perfect” bfv: *”What The?”*

[@manender1020]

These entire games can be described with this comment

[@arnoldcobarrubias6593]

BF2042: 💀💀💀

[@929Finn]

They got it right in BF1 then wrong in BFV, all I can attribute it to is the devs being changed up

[@munanchoinc]

Not necessarily. Brass shells were only used at the very tail end of WW1 like the BAR. It was used very late into the war . And thus soldiers experience an unreliable cartridge. Being forced to work with Paper ones.

[@MugenZeroX]

The brass shells do look neat tho

[@stephenlawrence554]

I know most of the shells used in the First World War were paper, due to a shortage of brass shells. Brass and paper are still used, albeit more rarely, as they’re easier to reload and don’t split in cold weather like plastic does.

[@griz312]

Brass and paper are not easier to reload and are more time consuming. The hulls on paper need to be roll crimped since the hull’s end has a ring shap seem and you can’t use smokeless powder. All plastic shells will crystallize and eventually split regardless of the weather.

[@docternoblex]

the typical solution against water was to use wax to protect the paper, which was typically red because a lot of it was originally meant for dynamite hulls, hence why shotgun shells today are usually red

[@AceOfBlackjack]

huh

[@NamelocTheBard]

The irony that the cardboard shells would probably be the most expensive now because of the massive industrialization of metal and plastic production

[@SamuraiAkechi]

Rottweil paper shells are the most stylish of the ww2 era and to this day

[@Leothecat2way]

Funny enough, the Einhorn Revolving from Vanguard uses brass shells.

[@AlexKS1992]

You can still get new paper shells from certain manufacturers but be prepared to pay a price and I’m surprised they’re not making a comeback or manufacturers making biodegradable shells.

[@stuffedmannequin]

I've Been Losing You, one of my favorite Yamaoka tracks. Excellent taste, friend

[@AzulGatos41]

Are you sure you're not Ian from Forgotten Weapons?

[@manender1020]

He's Ian Gaming

[@atarashi1624]

the music reminds me that you should do silent hill guns for the fun of it

[@reidhanson4755]

As a huge Hunt fan it was awesome to see two weapons on the roster even though no Hunt showdown gameplay was shown. Got extra excited for the Drilling.

[@inconsideratebox3000]

I found flashlights that look like Shotgun shells at Kohls. Bought them immediately, they're so cool. Big ass shotgun flashlight.

[@Ramzi1944]

Name of the music is "I've been losing you" by Akira Yamaoka

[@MarikoRawralton]

Knew it was from SH but I forget which specific track, thanks.

[@AER-88]

So, BF1 still is one of the most accurate games for all these small details and weaponry in general.

[@timo4463]

IT Has big flaws for example the broomhandle still got bullets in IT after beeing Shot empty but yea bf1 got some great Details

[@Lord_GhostBoner_]

Environmentally friendly shotgun shells

[@ksg12thomas]

One thing that has always irked me with the expedite is with semi auto shotguns, much like semi auto rifles, when you rack the slide and a casing/round has been ejected, as the BCG moves forward it carries the next round into battery. So in racking a round out looking at it and then putting it back into the gun would effectively double feed the shotgun rendering it useless until the malfunction on the users side has been cleared

[@aLm0e]

But It's possible to ghost load M4 Benelli, and Expedite is a copy of it. Right?

[@Antimanele104]

"Giving the to load their own loads for them" "Majority of all shotgun shells" Look, I'm not the grammar police, but what the f*ck was that?

[@SuperPerry1000]

Sadly I feel a lot of the less educated people would look at properly modeled brass shells and assume they just stretched out a standard cartridge model and accuse the developers of laziness.

[@MultimediaNeon]

welp time to replace the shotgun shell models with rifle ones

[@yosh3158]

nice song choice :)

[@VarenvelDarakus]

one thing who alweys bothered me tho is not how they are depicted but spray patterns and inaccuracy , most shotguns are accurate to 45+- meters with regular shells and 80-100+- with slugs in most videogames past 10 meters most pelets go everywhere then where you want them to go

[@cleeiii357]

Insurgency Sandstorm's shotguns have realistic ranges and spread patterns where you could still have most of your pellets hit your target 50+ meters away, hence equipping your shotgun with a magnified optic is actually a good idea. And that game isnt even a milsim game (too bad its dying tho) .

[@no-hadaceur]

For Short BF1 correct, but in BFV incorrect.

[@munanchoinc]

Not necessarily. Brass shells were only used at the very tail end of WW1 like the BAR. It was used very late into the war . And thus soldiers experience an unreliable cartridge. Being forced to work with Paper ones.

[@akatripclaymore.9679]

When I was a kid, we used ALOT of paper cased ammo ( usually black powder load's) to hunt with. You could buy them for pennies at garage sales. I have killed everything from pigeons to mule deer with them. They smell like rotten eggs & will foul your shotgun pretty fast. They are deadly as hell though, they are the only thing you can shoot from an old Damascus -wrapped steel shotgun also. In the first Mad Max you can see reloads made from paper cased 12 gauge round's. Some just fizzled & didn't go boom. 😆

[@paskii_rlib]

killing floor 1 had this in the trench shotgun if i remember

[@thefiresworddragon927]

To be fair, how many people would actually think and realise this? Considering there are people who don't remember there used to be metal slides and no guard rails on playgrounds back even into the 1960s, I wouldn't be surprised if people thought plastic shells existed back then, even in small forms.

[@Yoda_16358]

What is the background music you used? It’s so peaceful compared to the guns on display lol

[@MagicalTrout]

I still shoot .410 slugs with full brass casings today

[@Duzxy9]

Is the music from silent Hill?

[@rsj2877]

So the shells that have like red wrapping them, are the full brass shells?

[@Jayalen]

More of these!

[@Katurodrake]

Actual soy point knowledge. That's so cool.

[@XTATICSBAND]

What is that song? I feel I've heard it in like a silent hill game

[@Duzxy9]

Fr same

[@MarikoRawralton]

"I've been losing you" apparently.

[@Blaze016]

@@MarikoRawralton Correct!

[@icy3-1]

Inb4 cut brass shotgun shells

[@matthewrobinson4107]

song name?

[@d4-lt359]

I’ve been losing you from silent hill 3

[@MrNacho453]

Didn't they replace the carboard shotgun shell for full brass because when they get wet they jam the gun & got stuck ? Apart from not working properly or not working at all.

[@munanchoinc]

The Full Brass Shell was given to the military exactly due to the problems of the Paper Shells encountered in WW1 and parts of the Pacific Theater. The Paper shells as a result was given to the civilian market as a cheap alternative. That's why the plastic shells addressed this with the crimped seal.

[@MrNacho453]

@@munanchoinc does slug rounds made of brass shells existed back then ?

[@munanchoinc]

​@@MrNacho453not sure. But Paper Shells were used for certain in combat but were often unreliable.

[@stephenlawrence554]

@@MrNacho453 I think slugs have been around for as least as long as shotguns have, seeing as they essentially turn them into large bore muskets

[@dr.pepperdrinker5428]

Hello there

[@ninjadanoite1560]

*Insert star wars meme reference here*

[@NicoSmedley]

General Kenobi

[@The_GuyWhoAsked4]

General Kenobi.

[@odvon2963]

You are a bold one

[@MackieLevyn]

funny how BF1 gets it right and BFV gets it wrong

[@4dimensionalcat]

music?

[@d4-lt359]

I’ve been losing you from silent hill 3

[@notsobigcheese]

ah, that explains why they were colored like that