One State for Two Peoples?

Is the One State Solution a better solution for Israel and Palestine than the Two State Solution?
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[@joshuaHermans-Efenudu]

You can’t have a one state solution with the level of hatred that exist.

[@normbrinkman]

Force the two of them to live together and the place will turn into the same mess the rest of us have to live in .

[@danjarvis5127]

​@@normbrinkman75 years of fighting prove you wrong.

[@robertacevedo5601]

Exactly

[@rick3806]

It’s now a well known fact that Netanyahu helped fund millions to Hamas to keep a more moderate PA from gaining enough power and seeking a path be for a 2-state solution with Western help. He has long said he’ll never allow a 2-state solution. War and carnage are the only way he can remain in power given the multiple credible indictments against him.

[@normbrinkman]

@@danjarvis5127 The fighting just hasn't started here yet .

[@charlesritter6640]

I love how she "forgets " to mention WHY there are 5 million refugees

[@dyawr]

Bc 7 countries invaded Israel on the first day of independence. Lol

[@8-bitstream379]

​@@dyawrthe Israelis got ww2 veterans and weapons gifted to them by their colonial occupier before independence, and it's neighbors were just as independent as israel was, not that fair of a fight.

[@dyawr]

@@8-bitstream379 They were barely armed got nothing gifted to them, what are you talking about? And what does it have to do with the question? The 5 million refugees are *because* the Ar_b side started *a war* to destroy the country of Irsl as soon as it was born. Not the other way around.

[@dyawr]

@@8-bitstream379 There were ww1 and ww2 veterans on both sides, but Isrl was *greatly* outnumbered and outpowered - and *alone.* It was 7 to 1. Stop this lame-@ss fake propaganda. The other countries were not 1 day old, lol.

[@dyawr]

@@8-bitstream379 There were ww1 and ww2 veterans on both sides, but Isrl was *greatly* outnumbered and outpowered - and *alone.* It was 7 against 1, you're damn right it wasn't fair. And the other countries were not 1 day old, lol.

[@Velmanaheireann]

Saying “we have the right to an ethnostate” is not a good rebuttal.

[@red-blue3430]

All states r ethnostates?

[@captaindookey]

Colonialist mentality in the 21st century

[@ollie7597]

How about the ottomans lost their territory in ww1, and the territory of Palestine became britians. So britian did what they felt like with their territory

[@zandaroos553]

@@red-blue3430very few states define itself as an ethnic homeland.

[@leahptp]

@@zandaroos553how do the Arabic states define themselves?

[@braedengraham6239]

Ethnostates are inherently amoral. There, I said it.

[@tiffanywyatt5137]

So most non Western nations lol

[@fortnitegamer-yp4hd]

Plotting to eradicate an entire ethnicity is inherently immoral, but you don't see pro-palestinians or any middle eastern nation vilifying them. If we let the middle east get it's way, they'd take over the entirety of Europe and start marrying off their children

[@Ausaris]

Why?

[@bulkax303]

They are the best solution for long term stability and cultural unity. What do you suggest?

[@braedengraham6239]

@@bulkax303 what in the world do you mean? Ethnostates escalate conflict and instability, they promote nationalism and aggressive neighborly relations, as can be seen between Israel and Palestine right now.

[@forster1240]

"We cant have equal rights because if all the people who were ethnically cleansed from their homes returned we would loose our ethnostate" 😂

[@sharonefee1426]

They'll kill us all for stsrters

[@minestar2247]

that's how they really think it's insanity

[@cryptofacts4u]

She really just said "The only problem with equal rights for all citizens is that a certain portion of the citizens won't have More rights than others"

[@DrCruel]

@@cryptofacts4u The problem is that the pro-Left, pro-Hamas ethnofascists would exterminate the Jews. And you know it. The Jews refuse to choose suicide.

[@yas024]

The Jews needed a land without People for a people without land. But the problem is that it's not stone age - There is no land without people. Palestine is even not even a normal land because it is holy for Christians, Muslims and also Jews. Why would the land be empty? You can't wipe out any people for the people who were wiped out by somebody.

[@humanbeing7624]

Antarctica is pretty empty

[@dropatacoshell]

​@@humanbeing7624are you stupid

[@martinicc67]

The jews did buy that land legally. It just came with serfs they didn't want and they did away with the serf system

[@Ravenoli10]

Also y r we gettin punished for the westd anti semitism past?

[@colin1818]

Which is why 20% of Israel is inhabited by Muslims that have full citizenship and even sit on the Supreme Court and in their legislature. Yet a Jew can't openly live in Gaza and survive the night.

[@ramiabdalla3074]

It’s funny when it’s Jewish sovereignty and self determination but never Palestinian sovereignty and self determination. Very interesting how this standard works

[@Kian139]

Zoom out on the map. Israel is surrounded by arab/palestinian states. Gaza was a palestinian sovereign state until oct 7.

[@ramiabdalla3074]

@@Kian139 firstly, I didn’t realize that Palestine was a recognized state to isreal, interesting how they constantly move settlers into somebody else’s state huh? Secondly I would like you to look up the definition of sovereignty, I believe for sovereignty it would require full control and power over the area, interesting how Palestinian sovereignty involves isreali settlers, a full air and naval blockade, and checkpoints every half mile down the road huh? Pretty sure isreal doesn’t have any of those, they in fact have the opposite.

[@planetunie6397]

@@Kian139what does it have to do with Palestinians Sovereignty

[@Kian139]

@@planetunie6397 because the neighbouring countries are palestinian arab states.

[@allanzylbert1306]

Really and what was Gaza you Hypocrite? Gaza had not One Israeli in it for 20 years and yet Palastinians elected Hamas and than started a war. Imagine if you had an actual education

[@cd1051]

Self determination for me, but not for thee

[@yolok3]

More like the Palestinians can't be trusted to not murder the jews

[@tenkill]

@deippydeippy5249 good point. Like Israel, a lot of them don't have peace either.

[@Turtles-are-kinda-gay]

​@deippydeippy5249Muslim is a religion and Palestinian is an ethnic group who have seen oppression in other countries they have been forced to seek refuge in, Palestinians are just as deserving of a state as Israelis

[@toddmulligan2609]

Do some research then, nitwit. And don't ask me to support ANY theocracy, yours OR theirs

[@Firebert79TA]

How many more Arab states do you need? But one Jewish state is too many?

[@sgeuproductions]

Terrible propoganda machine Edit:comments are ww3

[@Danielskyy-tg4wp]

Your mom

[@zenodezeno454]

So you think a one multicultural state would be better? 💀 Just look at France, Germany, India, all are terrorised by islamic attacks year in year out. Statistically everywhere where Islam grows unsafety and crime grows. A one state solution is not only dumb, its dangerous towards jews and civilised people

[@altheamantes2041]

​@@Danielskyy-tg4wpyour poop

[@user-dm2hq2cv7s]

​@@Danielskyy-tg4wp ur unknown dad

[@The-Real-Red-Bard]

Lmao was gonna comment this

[@lt4109]

Jews don't seem that safe in Israel right now almost like the project doesn't work

[@toddmulligan2609]

Like, yeah... Lets put all the Jews in one place and then do everything we possibly can to make people hate us, and then if they attack us we'll call them racists. I'd love to see what Jews could do if only they had full faith in their GOD to save them instead of the US

[@sly2792004]

Safer than Jews in Muslim countries oh wait they all got kicked out or died. Besides it is working or Hamas would killed all 7 million of them. They got in surprise attack but now getting their asses kicked by one of ther worlds best militaries. This is like if Mexico was stupid enough to attack USA. Most people know better than to attack someone with a far better military.

[@kerstink.6545]

The Israelis own the entire country. For over 4000 years. (This is even written in the Koran of the Muslims in Sura 5,20+21). But there has NEVER been a country called Palestine in the entire history of mankind. Think about it! God bless Israel. ❤️🙏

[@bruh-zw9hx]

@@kerstink.6545what? a unified kingdom existed in the region for a few centuries max..

[@kerstink.6545]

@@bruh-zw9hx / Israel has owned the Holy Land for over 4000 years! Abraham ca. 2000 BC (as Chris already mentioned, land was acquired by purchase!) / 1400 BC Joshua/ David 1012-972/ Solomon 971-931 BC

[@redskull3448]

This argument could easily apply to apartheid South Africa and Rhodesia

[@aufstrebendeseegurke8143]

No

[@redskull3448]

@@aufstrebendeseegurke8143 how is this argument any different then the one apartheid South Africa used

[@aufstrebendeseegurke8143]

@@redskull3448 The Jewish people's claim to a state for the Jewish people is as follows: Their argument is that there is a need for a Jewish state since they are oppressed and persecuted in many countries. And even though there are states in which Jews can live free today (the USA, for instance), the threat of potential persecution in the furure still remains anywhere. Therefore, the argument for the necessity of a Jewish state is very true, and it should also apply for other peoples without an own state in my opinion (like the Curds and the Palestinians). And an ethnic state can only work if this ethnicity stands for the majority population. The apartheid regime however had another, unjust claim to justify itself: They obviously didn't say that there was a necessity of a white state since white people were persecuted. They said that white people were a superior race compared to others, therfore destined to govern and prohibited from mixing with others. Both of these sound very different when comparing.

[@alessandromarchiori38]

​@@aufstrebendeseegurke8143The "our people Is Persecuted we Need a state" Is literally what every White suprematist would Say. Instead of creating countries where all the minorities are treated equally you create a state for the minority? This Is literally what the antisemitics wanted

[@ryanharrington5066]

@@redskull3448 A better example would be India and Pakistan, and considering how the hate between Israeli's and Palestinians is more deep then those between India and Pakistan I would say that 2 states is probably for the best.

[@chxwv]

Go to Germany , Palestinians were not the ones slaughtering you !

[@Kdot2x]

Exactly and she says that they need a state because they’re being prosecuted everywhere which is ridiculous, they silence everyone in their own country and try to control them then get mad that they don’t want them there anymore 😂😂

[@chxwv]

@@paulamarsh1 if civilization is to grow , no barbaric state like Israel or its blind supporter countries will last for long , leave alone the super power status ! Israel does not belong to a civilized just world

[@lars1701again]

Na, they’re fine right where they are that pallys can go to any number of Arab states

[@MattNavdjike]

U do know Israel belongs to the Jews since ancient days right? Like the entire country is their possession and Jerusalem is God's holy city?​@@Kdot2x

[@user-jj2sj9zl6t]

And Jews can go back to Europe too and let the land to it's real people the Palestinian people ​@@lars1701again

[@Bewareinjustice]

What a twisted propaganda

[@Muhammad-sx7wr]

The whole message of this is that Jewish people matter more than Palestinian people. Especially considering that these Palestinians lived there and were just dispossessed of their homes convince me otherwise?

[@allanzylbert1306]

It's not twisted, it's Israel and that's a fact, it's been Is real for thousands of years and even though Arabs constantly try, they can't beat Israel

[@dallasbrat81]

Please explain why ? Why do you want to see mass murder and Muslim establishment of there dream caliphate. Yes terrorist empire whose eyes would be on Europe next

[@brucesherman9811]

And how is this twisted? Show me one country in all of the Middle East where Jews are welcomed and have full rights. In Israel Arabs have full rights.

[@brucesherman9811]

@@Bewareinjustice I wouldn't talk about ethnostates if you know that Saudi Arabia does not allow non-muslims in certain cities. At all. Additionally, it is illegal to bring in any other religious texts other than Muslim. So before you start talking about Israel being an ethno state, take a look at your own swimming pool. Also, Israel is 20% Arab and they have full voting rights. It is not apartheid.

[@charlieputzel7735]

An ethnostate, regardless of how persecuted the group is, is not a good thing. Making Israel an explicitly Jewish state was a mistake, one that not only displaced millions but also caused much antisemitic persecution as a backlash.

[@War450]

Ethnostates are, in actuality, the best state to have. If you look at all of the best countries on earth, none of them are 'multicultural'. They are ALL ethnostates. From safety to quality of life to freedoms, every single category is dominated by ethnostates.

[@Maliers]

​@@War450indeed at least those of Predominantly one Ethnicity. The only exception really being the united states. But even still almost every country represents an Ethnicity multiple contries can represent one Ethnicity like the arab states.

[@War450]

@@Maliers The funny thing is the US isn't even an exception. Up until the 80s, Western european whites made up over 80% of the population. America has been an ethnostate for it's entire existence. It's only the past 40 years it's declined from being an ethnostate. Funny how the past 40 years has seen a decline in the country overall. There's just uncomfortable truths of the world people don't like, and multiculturalism being a bad thing is one of those truths. Humans work best when they're segregated but still willing to work together. Simply because differing ideals, differing cultures, clash too much when forced into a single country.

[@Maliers]

@@War450 hmm Either still I don't consider "White American" an ethnicity but I do see your reasoning. Of course multicultural nations can grow like Yugoslavia in the 1960's but they usually never work out in the end

[@frankwilliamk3769]

its not an ethnostate though. it is much more diverse than any of its neighboring countries. Israel has, millions of muslims, shia, Sunni and other sects. there are christians, jews, many atheists, there are druze even. there are armanians, arameans, iranians. there are Mizrahi jews from all over the middle east where they were ethnically cleansed and kicked out, from Iraq, Iran, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Saudi arabia, Yemen, Oman, UAE, Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, Turkey, Egypt, Algeria, tunisia, morocco, Lybia... sephardic jews from spain and Portugal, and ashkenazi jews from Central and easterrn europe, even Beta Israel jews from Ethyopia its the oppsoite of an ethnostate it has so many ethnicities. many more ethnicities than most middle eastern countries. palestine is much closer to an ethnostate than israel is.

[@pappy101]

Today's "Israel" isn't the same Israel from the Bible... & When they say refugees, do they mean the ones they drove out since 1948?

[@Trollingthemloudly]

Oh boo hoo does it matter if they are not the same the modern israel is a spiritual sucessor and its good enuff

[@ryanlow6901]

​@@TrollingthemloudlyTRUTH!✅️👍

[@Trollingthemloudly]

@@ryanlow6901 i dont understand youtube algorithm. Sometimes it's for israel and its against israel. the bot just likes to delete as often as it can

[@danielpritchard510]

Funny cause they drove out the previous occupants

[@-yx4in]

The Israeli deceleration of independence asked the Arab residents to stay and become Israeli citizens. The Palestinian “refugees” left voluntarily

[@thejedicounciloffical]

Maybe instead of Israel or Palestine. There could be a kingdom of Jerusalem.

[@vandematram4]

Who would be king of that kingdom ?

[@MeederTom]

@@vandematram4Jesus

[@vandematram4]

@@MeederTom don't be offended but in Kingdoms when kings dies someone else takes there throne .. As we all know he died by those 4 pins .. so either he has to born again or someone else of his bloodline may claim kingdom

[@MeederTom]

He did die. And resurrected and sits at the right hand of the father. And all knees shall bow and proclaim Jesus as Lord. Prepare!

[@LittlePenguin1-17]

You mean no more republic!!!!

[@Thatrandomguy485]

What a twisted and disgusting way of saying f*ck the people that were on this land (and that protected us throughout the centuries) and we’ll just take their land because we want to.

[@theicecreamninja101]

I can’t tell if your for Palestine or israel

[@Thatrandomguy485]

@@theicecreamninja101 im for the only indigenous people to that land: the Palestinians

[@theicecreamninja101]

@@Thatrandomguy485 ah yes 1 + 1 = 3

[@dennisgroves6884]

​@@Thatrandomguy485lol. Jews aren't indigenous to the land? Are you nuts?

[@ead-pv5lb]

​​@@Thatrandomguy485The Palestinians aren't indigenous

[@JAB63050]

Let's not be daft. A Jewish state in the middle east and Palestine is just asking for trouble.

[@rodystam3519]

Why? Because no other religion and culture can exist near muslim arabs?

[@DonKeecock]

Jews have been in the Middle East for 3,500 years. Arab invaders came in the 7th century.

[@BugBoy477]

when you get history knowledge from joe biden

[@aaronkristo858]

Anywhere adjacent to Islam always means trouble.

[@BugBoy477]

@@aaronkristo858 smartest american

[@housse51]

War criminals

[@sergeharrison5804]

Protecting yourself is not a crime!

[@TruthFiction]

@@sergeharrison5804 He's referring to the Palestinians. I can't think of any other people in history who launched a publicly declared war of genocide and land theft, then lost it and demanded the world simply give them what they failed to take by force.

[@massimilianobergamaschi7434]

​@@TruthFictionLand theft Is yours, never caring about un resolutions Is yours too. Force Is your only right.

[@TruthFiction]

@@massimilianobergamaschi7434 Ignorance and foolishness is your right. You certainly do exercise it enough.

[@dartboy8887]

@@massimilianobergamaschi7434i agree Palestinians are stealing land

[@user-cm2nx5cf3v]

There was 1 state that was the Palestinian state where Muslims Christians and Jewish people lived happily and in peace before the balfor declaration and zionist arrived

[@BenyKarachun]

There was never in the history of time a "Palestinian state", never even had a flag until 1964, and even that they copied from Jordan

[@whateva2840]

THERE IS NO LETTER P IN ARAB IN THE FIRST PLACE 😂

[@wow2031]

There was never a Palestinian state, there was never a Palestinian nationality. The biggest joke of your argument is that you believe that under Muslim rule there was equality and peace. You got a real good Al jazeera brainwash.

[@jackiecharlie8798]

FILISTINE ​@@whateva2840

[@lars1701again]

Never has been a Palestinian state

[@jaysonbrebnor9680]

Every citizen should have equal rights!

[@Kian139]

They have right now. Israeli arabs have full rights.

[@assaultrifle707]

​@@Kian139Nah, they still hated on and Palestinians are slaughtered like the Jews in WW2.

[@Kian139]

@@assaultrifle707that is not true at all. Its not true for palestinians and its certainly not true for arab israelis.

[@assaultrifle707]

@@Kian139 Blah blah blah mf you weren't even there 💀

[@assaultrifle707]

@@Kian139 Arab Israelis get called terrorists for not being a European-looking Jew.

[@mendoza4789]

To bad for you boo. That's what I'm told when I don't get every single thing I want somehow Jews are entitled to every one of their wishes. How about Palestinian dreams and wishes

[@Bananabear20]

You already have Jordan Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, and Egypt

[@Paulmesolikey]

Go smoke your hukkas in Jordan nobody is stopping you

[@user-H4GY]

@@Bananabear20you already have russia, poland , ukraine , germany, you know that two can play that game bruh

[@akapasokopo]

@@user-H4GY how? are any of those people jews?

[@crowcove]

@@Bananabear20we should be one!!! especially we jordanians and palestinians. if you westerners never meddled in our politics, we wouldnt have half the problems we do now! we wouldnt have puppet dogs as rulers, we wouldnt have such high tension, we wouldnt have this amount of poverty and wars.

[@BillyMandalay]

Give them an inch, they WILL take a mile. LEARN from history.

[@prajwal4080]

applies to muslims as well

[@clobo01]

So they giving up the Sinai to the Egyptians and Gaza to the Palestinians argument is to be thrown in the bin right! Rather if you see the Muslim conquests of various regions is what your statement will genuinely hold to be true.

[@test-ot1fz]

they forcefully gave it up to avoid war with Egypt, 1973 was really close to end the terroristraelis And what do you say about illegal settlements in the west bank?​@@clobo01

[@TonyFiling]

The Arabic King at the time was promised the Middle East if he revolted against the Ottomans. Watch Lawrence of Arabia.@@prajwal4080

[@hayrotheguye7511]

@@prajwal4080 applies to the entirety of the middle east, the prophets were all sent there because they were such terrible people

[@rudimwongozi2169]

Jordan should be the Palestinian state. In fact Jordan IS a Palestinian state. Why does it need the Hashemite dynasty to rule over it? Why does no one ever ask this question?

[@crowcove]

because the british themselves put the hashemites as royalty, LOL. JORDAN AND PALESTINE ARE ONE!!!! we jordanians will gladly fight for our brothers land back, we want them to have their land, farm & life back!!! the west and east bank have forever been friends and one until the west came and drew our borders & placed their puppets as leaders!!! the king is half british! what makes you think we want him or any of them as our rulers???

[@rudimwongozi2169]

@@crowcove Then invite the Palestinians into Jordan, have that so called King step down, and problem solved. There's your Palestinian state. Jordan. Yes you'll fight for your Palestinian brothers in every way except that. Because you are not sincere that's why. Why endlessly fight trying to get Israel back from the Jews when there already is a Palestinian state.

[@rudimwongozi2169]

@@crowcove If Palestinians are your brothers then open up Jordan and let it be a Palestinian state. The so called King can step down and you can have a democratic state. One person one vote. If that could work in Israel why couldn't it work in Jordan?

[@Fluxwux]

Why should ethnic demographics matter? Sounds a bit racist to bring that up, It leaves a bad aftertaste to advocate for a homogenous ethnostate. Multiculturalism is not a bad thing and we should all be able to coexist in a melting pot - just like the US, Singapore, Qatar and many other successful examples!

[@sparkzbarca]

Except multiculturalism is the exception not the norm. Multiculturalism is a Western concept and done well it works. Though it still needs to be done well, the Nordic countries are downright reeling from letting in middle Eastern refugees without vetting them for their desire to assimilate. Japan, China, India etc have ZERO desire for immigration and desire a homogenous culture and ethnicity. Both Japan and China don't even want other Asians coming in and being granted citizenship much less middle easterners or western people's. Multiculturalism done well allows you to grab the best ideas of others and integrate them into your society. But done poorly you end up importing toxic stuff. Sweden has fairly low crime but it's spiked, 60% of Sweden's criminals were immigrants. It's closer to 75% for the crimes of robbery and rape and murder. That's not to say it can't be made to work but they should have rejected millions of the refugees out of hand for wanting to be Muslim and middle Eastern and many other things but not swedes. I've American, I have polish heritage and that's great but my Americaness is my core Identity and no one wanting to live in America should want to be anything more than they want to be American. They should aspire to adopt American culture and values so that we can have a shared identity.

[@Fluxwux]

@chankston7954 Why can’t Palestinians and Israelis just agree to civic nationalism with a 50-60% Muslim- 30-40% Jewish and ≈10% Christian state with US like states and high levels of decentralization and autonomy between regions? It would kind of be like Malaysia, South Africa or Switzerland with lots of diversity, multilingualism and autonomy for different communities. Just share the land and live side by side. Then everyone will be happy and live in peace. I don’t see why Israelis want to lock Palestinians out? Palestinians are open to sharing a state, but Israelis aren’t. If Germany, France and Poland can coexist in the EU with open borders after WW2, so should Israel and Palestine

[@Mars20231]

Probably because if the Palestinians took control there would be no more Jews.

[@Fluxwux]

@@johannthedeceitful5968 That’s maybe because the 2 state solution is deeply flawed. If a one state multicultural Israeli and Palestinian shared state was founded from the start nobody would have an issue and it would be a win win. Palestinians getting independence and Jews/Israelis getting a safe haven in their “holy land”. I think a shared state would have been able to avoid much of the conflicts of today. Palestinian Arabs actually welcomed Jewish refugees throughout the 20th century up until after WW2 - showing they never had any issues. Issues arrived when Palestinian families living on the land for over 1000 years were deported, had their properties stolen and forbidden to return! That could easily have been avoided in a 1 state solution.

[@johannthedeceitful5968]

@@Fluxwux A one state solution, given the obvious wars occurring, would have only led to civil war because especially now, neither side-at least not Palestine-wants to form a state with the other. The fact of the matter is that a two state solution is really the only way at this point to ensure both sides get any part of what they want. It’s an unfortunate reality but it’s true, and it’d be impractical in the extreme to try to make a one-state solution now without one side dominating the other. Whether a one state solution would’ve worked then is irrelevant-one can’t change the past. I see no possible way especially now that the two civilizations in the Holy Land, who more often than not hate each other, can coexist in one nation today.

[@gaghhuh2943]

This land belongs to Palestinians. Im not against Jews having their own land but they cant just decide this land belongs to them because of a book. You might as well say they belong to Egypt since according to Torah that is where they came from

[@todayunpacked]

What does that mean the land belongs to the Palestinians? It’s actually a lot more complicated than that - as there never was a state of Palestine

[@TruthFiction]

Did the British tell the Saudi's they could have all the land in their country? Yes. Did they do the same for modern Egypt? Yes. Jordan? Yes. So every Arab nation today exists because Europeans draw lines on their maps and gave that land to them, regardless who lives there. They did no different for Israel, but you somehow insist that the Arab nations get to exist but not Israel. Hypocrisy seems to be the shield Arabs hide behind.

[@Kian139]

Race based claims to land is just racist. It must be rejected out of hand. Belonging should be about property rights.

[@senegalball3686]

​@@todayunpackedBut Palestinians are genetically and culturally different from other Arabs

[@sharwama992]

The Jews say the land belongs to them because they originated from there and have lived there for centuries even though a large portion of the population was expelled by the romans a lot of Jews remained. That is their claim to the land and not some “book”.

[@Germany3583]

Can you guys from the Comments stop telling them to come to us! We're full!

[@nicwebber5343]

Tough luck.

[@BDgigachad]

Then support Palestine 🇵🇸

[@THE.CONFIDENTIAL]

You are starting to sound like mr mustache men 卐

[@HaroldDrama]

​@@BDgigachad shut up

[@Inkyyyyyy.]

You’re not, but yeah why in tf would like 7 million people immigrate to Germany

[@mehrianouri3282]

Yes, overwhelming numbers of natives have always posed quite the problem for colonisers.

[@C0ffeeF1ower]

This one state solution already exists, its name is Israel, it has the strongest democracy in the region and the Arab minority plays an important role in Israel, being 50% of pharmacists, having an Arab as the chairman of Israel’s biggest bank, they serve in the military, also in the parliament and government and a lot more.

[@_S_I_]

Arabs do _not_ have the same de facto rights as Jews in Israel. Over half the Arab population of Israel is below the poverty line. Arabs have a disproportionately higher infant mortality rate, as well as disproportionately less access to education. Many forms of discrimination go unchecked by the government Employers, landowners, Police, judiciary authorities and lawmakers are known to favour Jewish nationals over Arab nationals in almost all circumstances. In fact, the Jewish National Fund owns 13% of the _entire_ landmass of Israel - a huge proportion of the developable land in the country. The majority of land within the green line is off limits to Palestinian Israelis. 80% of the country is off limits for Palestinians. Quasi-government entities like the JNF have a near-complete monopoly over land ownership. The JNF stipulates that only Jews can buy, mortgage or lease their land. The Israeli Land Administration compensates the JNF with an equal amount of land, otherwise, in order to maintain this unequal access of land. Regional councils regularly deny Arabs residency in order to preserve the “Jewishness” of their areas. They actively work against the freedom of religious expression for Palestinian Muslims and Christians. The mayor of Upper Nazareth went as far as saying, “I would rather cut off my right arm than build an Arab school.” The Absentees’ Property Laws restrict Palestinian refugees from the use and disposal of properties they owned prior to displacement. These properties were confiscated and given to the Israeli Custodian of Absentee Property, amounting to 70% of all Israeli land. These are all Issues that Palestinian citizens of Israel face. Those who were born in the Occupied Palestinian Territories, having no Israeli citizenship, are met with even worse discrimination. This isn't equal rights - it's apartheid.

[@housse51]

Source : trust me bro

[@nefaristo]

​@@housse51you need a deep insight specific source to verify that Israeli Arabs are in parliament, the army and in some key positions? As other non Jews.

[@fliteshare]

Democracy for those "awarded" the right to vote and run for office. Just like, what the rest of the world, used to call APARTHEID.

[@jaysonbrebnor9680]

@@nefaristo every citizen should be treated equal. Palestinians in the West Bank do not get treated fairly not to mention the illegal settlements and Gaza is an open air prison.

[@ACharlesCyr]

Weird. It’s almost like there’s so many Palestinians there because it’s actually their homeland.

[@omnighostking5261]

Weird, it's almost like you forgot that the Jews were there first 🤔

[@kurolap7882]

Nope. Once it was clear Jews intended to have their own state, Arabs migrated to the region to counter the numbers of the migrating Jews

[@kieranharwood7186]

@@omnighostking5261 People were living there over 5000 years before the first Jew existed. The Jews themselves talk of people being there when they arrived. There's no world where Jews were first.

[@lejs1974]

​@@omnighostking5261When? They lived for thousands of years in other countries and territories. Those now living in "Israel" are just descendants and are not indigenous to that area

[@omnighostking5261]

@@lejs1974 ... Do you hear yourself?

[@not_averge]

"jewish sovreignty and self determination" zionism

[@nicwebber5343]

Move Israel to Germany. Seems fairest.

[@XILikeTrainsX]

I dont think that would be the best Idea. I would gladly welcome them but too many anti semitism due to immigration rn.. 😢

[@otagaderkuchenkonig7313]

No, definitely not. As a German, I can only say that we don't owe the Jewish people anything. Because the person who owes them something shot himself in his bunker years ago.

[@JerseyBoy83]

Does this idiot think the Jews are from Germany? Because a lot of Jews have German language last names. Jews also have last names that come from many other languages including russian, Spanish, arabic, Italian etc. Most of the Jews in Israel came from Arabic countries, which makes sense since they are originally from the Middle East, the land of Israel specifically.

[@tomriddel8657]

Not a good idea. We are currently on the verge of breaking after Democracy is getting beaten with a Stick by Our current goverment and the AFD gets more power.

[@kiterkun1606]

In what World does this seems the fairest? Lmao I mean there were Plans to create a yiddish speaking state in old german territory but there is no sense in ur idea

[@user-xm6us2kn3o]

Unpopular idea: Pull a Austria-Hungary on Palestine. (as in the region, not the country) Then divide the country by majority areas between Jews and Palestinians and give Christians equal rights with Jews and Palestinians. 100 percent make the state Secular.

[@user-xm6us2kn3o]

W or L take.

[@joseenriquejoson1994]

That is the same bloody scenario I imagined. Rather than that, maybe pull the flag system of Uruguay on the former British Mandate for Palestine

[@joseenriquejoson1994]

​@@user-xm6us2kn3o Fun fact: Uruguay has three OFFICIAL flags. The smarter way is to use Uruguay as an example of how it would work for the former British Mandate for Palestine to represent the prevailing ethnic groups in the said region. There should be a neutral flag for diplomatic meetings that would represent EVERY people in the region, a Jewish flag to represent the Jewish side of the region, and an Arab flag to represent the Arab side of the region

[@user-xm6us2kn3o]

@@joseenriquejoson1994 True.

[@neerav]

Seems like a W in my books, though they won't have a symbol of stability to keep themselves united like Franz Joseph for austria hungary.

[@YesmineMenyar]

Israel should have been made in Germany it's unfair to make the Palestinians pay for the nazis' mistakes

[@todayunpacked]

Political Zionism started a half century before the Holocaust. Religious Zionism has existed for thousands of years. Israel was not created because of the Holocaust and no Palestinian are suffering because of the Nazis. The Nazis may have nudged things along, but the Jews were returning and building a state well before the Holocaust and would have continued regardless.

[@Muhammad-qf2nf]

@@todayunpackedYou are right this apartheid regime started long back with the hagganah, ringing any bells?

[@zelxcdqgssui]

@@Muhammad-qf2nf the book that teaches the story of exodus? And is present at every Passover meal?

[@zelxcdqgssui]

@@Muhammad-qf2nf also Palestinians are both Arab and Jewish. You should really learn the history of Israel. It started all the way back in the 9th century bce. With judea, then the Roman’s, then Seljuks, took over Israel, and the Roman’s massacred and exiled the Jews, finally the Ottoman Empire, Took over Palestine, which was never a country just a region of the world. I know history tends to get in the way of political activism but that’s how history is Some people call it the region the levant as well.

[@Muhammad-qf2nf]

@@zelxcdqgssui What? I am talking about the “paramilitary force” funded by the British empire after the fall of the ottomans who would terrorise everyone basically the Z*onist I*IS

[@itsdarkhere8118]

Only one state and it's Palestine

[@Bananabear20]

Yeah that’s Israel

[@Trollingthemloudly]

Delusional

[@Timelost18]

@@Bananabear20the whole world disagrees

[@Bananabear20]

@@Timelost18 clearly not

[@denkanator]

a place that has literally never been a state in human history...

[@Liveandletlive86]

Omg if i hear antisemitism used one more time. Weve all been persecuted and victimized and killed but not everyone gets a country

[@Bananabear20]

No but Arabs apparently get the entire peninsula and colonize to their hearts content

[@dennisgroves6884]

Are you special?

[@Liveandletlive86]

@@dennisgroves6884 are you Jewish or just consume a lot of propaganda

[@nghekkkk828]

You equate all Zionists as Jews, you are antisemitic. Stop the cap bro

[@Timelost18]

@@dennisgroves6884are you?

[@cmc1798]

2 states already exist- Israel and Jordan.

[@kazomazo6646]

Do a democratic state solution, mix both population, now Palestinians are more in numbers, make every 2 Palestinians votes equal to one, for presidential elections and all type of voting for 25 years, then let them gradually get involved in elections as 1 person 1 voice. If in this 25 years the Isreali treated them as an equal citizens and all of them felt how good the life is under one Isreali state they wouldn't vote against the common good! Isreal is good country and a developed one, to live in if it was not for all the crazy killing and hate! In this 25 years they can launch a national social bonding similar to programs done by some countries that had brutal Civil war for long time, as this programs would make people come together to talk about the history and overcome it problems and bond together. Write in the new Isreali State constitution laws that prevent any separatism ideas and similar ideas. This is not the perfect solution but it is 100 better than all the non stop killing for the last 75 years that is going on!

[@ashrafebrahim2566]

This is a Zionist troll post

[@democraticrepublicofsprout7263]

Aren't you missing someone? 🇵🇸

[@EgyptianChiefKeef]

Because the Palestinians were forced into Jordan

[@dallasbrat81]

@@kazomazo6646 not realistic, good try. Give Palestinians actual goal of 30 yrs of straight peace demilitarize Gaza and see if they can live in peace for a generation before bringing them in

[@danturnbull337]

You have your state already but you can't keep your greedy blood thirsty hands of other lands... Criminally taken and occupied...

[@Bananabear20]

You mean the Arabs who already have the entire peninsula

[@pappy101]

​@@Bananabear20So what get in where you fit in... And it looks like they don't fit in that area too well. I hope and pray we stop support of any of it... Stop waisting our money and lives on their nonsense.

[@josephessien-obot9853]

The British were given the mandate over the former Ottoman district of Southern Syria. The British named it Palestine and the appointment came to be known as the Mandate of Palestine. They subsequently gave 70% of the Mandate over to the Arabs in king Abdullah I. When the Jews eventually declared sovereignty over the remaining part of the Mandate the same Arabs who were in possession of the 70% were furious. They invaded part of Israel and renamed it the West Bank and even changed the kingdom’s name from Transjordan to Jordan. If I were to deduce who was greedy and bloodthirsty here, it certainly wouldn’t be the Jews but the Arabs who demand that the aboriginals abandon the right to sovereignty.

[@danturnbull337]

​@josephessien-obot9853 yep...I get that. I agree. What I can't agree on is the constant oppression and disproportionate nature of isreal. I get their angry too, but why keep a hand around innocent peoples throat and have thousands of them in jails. Isreal have created the ongoing nature of this.... And The Romans named it Palestine

[@killthefurrys]

last time i check it was palestine and 6 other arab countrys that started the first israeli war when israel was created THEY CHOSE THE WAR AND THEY LOST its not criminal if the "victim" attacked first its called "self defence"

[@daanwolters3751]

So what about palestinian self determination? After you've been tramoling that for devades, dont expect people to care about your self determination

[@planetunie6397]

PALESTINIANS SOVEREIGNTY AND RIGHT TO STATE AND TO DEFEND THEMSELVES LETS TREAT HUMANS EQUALLY NO HYPOCRISY

[@Inquisitor-Beals]

The Jewish people also deserve a state and sovereignty. Why deny them the same rights?

[@kurolap7882]

ill remind you, it was the Palestinians who denied their own statehood multiple times. If you can't live in peace beside Israel while crying about "occupation" then you dont get your own country

[@planetunie6397]

@@kurolap7882 why that statehood has to be offered by Israel ? You are only offered something if it doesn’t belong to you! WHY DONT WE LET PALESTINIANS WRITE AN OFFER OF LAND AND STATEHOOD TO ISRAEL ?

[@planetunie6397]

@@kurolap7882 you see the « you don’t get your own country » is exactly what i tried to explain, because who are they to decide who can or cannot get a country ? That miserable mindset of superiority and condescending attitude is exactly what will never work with those arabs EQUALITY AS HUMANS IS THE FIRST STEP TOWARDS PEACE.

[@kurolap7882]

@@planetunie6397I dont know what you're talking about. We live in reality. You can want your own country. but if you're proposed country's entire reason to exist is to Get rid of a neighbouring country, then that neighbouring country is completely in the right to do everything in its power to stop you from forming a state with an actual military. again, Keep in mind, it was Palestinian Arabs that REJECTED a Palestinian country on the grounds that they didnt want ISRAEL to exist.

[@meriemch1969]

Only palestine will exist

[@dennisgroves6884]

Lol. That's fantasy. Israel ain't going nowhere.

[@ryanlow6901]

​@@dennisgroves6884🇮🇱LONG LIVE ISRAEL 🇮🇱

[@aaronkristo858]

As time goes on, the more that fantasy starts to fade away. Palestine ceased to exist in 1947.

[@meriemch1969]

Wishful thinking by zionist terrorists but no..palestine will survive.

[@meriemch1969]

Nazis wanted jews dead. Zionist want Muslims and palestinians dead. Newsflash. Not gonna happen.

[@dalek1665]

Ok but don’t Palestinians also deserve rights and this should more likely be discussed considering their the ones whose rights are being denied by Israel

[@michaelw2288]

No peace with Israel No negotiation with Israel No recognition of Israel. The three nos of the Arab League Khartoum conference is why Israel hung onto the territories captured in 1967.

[@Inquisitor-Beals]

No they aren’t, Hamas denies basic human rights. They control Palestine not Israel, Israel wants peace and to live in harmony. But Palestine refuses every offer given. Because they are greedy.

[@danielpritchard510]

U do realize there are Palestinians living peacefully in Isreal

[@Randomman_4826]

​@@danielpritchard510 they are treated like a lesser people. I've videos of The IDF beating old Palestinian women outside Al Aqsa Those women were not a danger. I've seen videos from the Knesset itself of Israeli ministers saying "There is no such things as a Palestinian person" "You will die your kids will die your grandkids will die." "I am proud of the Ruins in Gaza" Does that look like fair treatment?

[@danielpritchard510]

so u pick a handful of cases to ignore the thousands living peacefully wow thats reaching btw you should see how tolerant they are of others in gaza ill never forget them cheering after the 9/11 terrorist attacks or them chearing after the bomb they lauched at isreal they are ojly the victims in the conflict now that they are losing @@Randomman_4826

[@holasmay542]

A Jewish state & a Palestinian State us the best solution moving forward - they can hate each other all they want but as far as I know. Both states are run by adults and should there for have their relationship managed - like Adults. Palestine deserves self determination. Isreal deserves self determination. That's it.

[@someguy2771]

How do you do that with Hamas in power? History has shown they reject all peace deals, the leader saying he will commit Oct 7 again and again until all of Israel is gone, and how they are taught to hate Israel at a young age?

[@gulox8241]

Would be but selfish Palestinians dont want that, they want all of (not their) land for themselves.

[@keeganm5399]

⁠@@gulox8241didn’t Israel annex the Jordan valley, West Bank settlements and East Jerusalem back in 2020? It seems that both side want that land and will do or say anything that would be in their self interest.

[@gulox8241]

@@keeganm5399 I can't find anything about Israel annexing any the lands you mentioned, there were proposals but none seem to go throught.

[@BarcaHannibal]

"Adults" all wars, cinflicts and shithousery is caused by adults tf is this low IQ take

[@naminaoberhausen2131]

"Democracy is good enough for thee but not for me"

[@atticusshadowmore3263]

Just because Jews rightfully wanted a land of their own after ages of persecution dies not mean they get to do the same thing

[@ravenquinn7774]

just because the romans ousted the Jews before musling was even a thing doesnt mean they get to claim it as their own.

[@iano239]

So you're saying that 7 million people who are Jewish keep 78% of a country that 12 million people who aren't Jewish are entitled to live in? The International Community were some Imperial powers after the war. There are plenty of safe places for people of the Jewish faith. An alternative would be a 50/50 split with both nations hav8ng nukes.

[@ubroc]

Why are conservatives in Israel hell bent on building a single state?

[@niranjanvasudevan8957]

How about dividing the country equally. 1)North Israel and 2)South Palestine.

[@Gufalapy62]

Same as two state solution

[@omnighostking5261]

That would just be the same thing, just different lands

[@u2boii878]

They already tried, but the Muslims rejected it 5 times

[@opdator84]

South is desert

[@willconnell2494]

What's risky about the demographics? If I made the same argument and replaced it with white people (Jewish people) and black people (palestinian) and then you can see how similar it is to white supremacy. For instance, ending apartheid in south Africa and ending the buntistan system may sound like a good idea, but if you look at how many black people it would add to the population its clear how unsafe it makes European SA. It pretty obvious it's bogus

[@Bananabear20]

First, because the Palestinians would kill the Jews so no

[@kurolap7882]

probably because this is a region that openly talks about killing the Jews. Ask the Palestinians what theyll do to the Jews once one state is established. Its pretty obvious you know nothing of the reality on the ground

[@edgychico9311]

The Jews came from Greek but originated from Turkey, so the Ottomans kicked the Jews out into Palestine.

[@That-one-guy-lol]

🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸

[@user-cf9tw2yp3x]

it's the same mistake that repeats itself instead of Nazis there is IDF defense force😂 what a hypocritical name

[@TruthFiction]

SO much ignorance. In 1948, the Arabs publicly declared their intention to wipe out every Jew in Israel, including the ones who had been there for centuries, and take all the land for the Palestinian Arabs. They lost. Instead of accepting that the people who start and lose a genocidal war of aggression pay the price for it, they instead demanded that the world simply GIVE them what they failed to take by force. It would be no different than Germany expecting that Poland, France, Belgium, Norway and half of Russia be given to them after losing WW2.

[@Inquisitor-Beals]

Calling Israel nazis is the most disgusting and disrespectful thing I’ve ever heard. It’s the Israeli Defense Force. Why is called that maybe because for decades Arab nations have tried to destroy Israel.

[@user-cf9tw2yp3x]

@@Inquisitor-Beals your nazi idf (that OCCUPIED Palestinian land) killing thousands of innocents is disgusting. remember the world and whoever created it will never forget it and the day will come again where you will hide again and you will be ashamed to admit who you are as you have always done throughout history

[@user-cf9tw2yp3x]

@@Inquisitor-Beals it's disgusting your Nazi IDF and those who support 30000 children killed not to mention seriously injured

[@user-cf9tw2yp3x]

@@Inquisitor-Beals The central principle of Nazism is the myth of the superiority of the Aryan race which in this case is replaced by that of the chosen people. It is the mistake that is repeated: the oppressed have become oppressors

[@saquibsyedf]

liberation of Jerusalem and Palestine will be free thats the destiny of Palestine

[@ryanlow6901]

No the destiny of Palestine is to become subjects of Egypt 🇪🇬

[@sonofsandwiches6892]

Doubt that there are 7 million Palestinians any longer... far fewer now.

[@Unfunny_individual]

Terrorists don’t know of peace may god help Israel

[@ryanmoore2447]

what about 6 yo hind whos family was trying to leave to safety and a tank attacked the car she was the only one whos left b4 it happened her cousin called family ask9ng what to do then you càn hear the horrible sounds of what happened then the 6 year old was in the phone for hours until the phone died they sent out 3 different rescue teams none came back they were red cross ppl well crescent I think it's called out there how can ppl do that to a car full of women and a kid she's was missing for.over.6 days I hope she's been found don't you think this is hurting the chances of the innocent ppl who or being held the idf is focusing on the wrong things meanwhile those poor civilians and the poor ppl being held are paying the consequences of it you guys could of already had them back to their loved ones where they should be but yet your creating a new generation of ppl who are going to grow up to be the next Hamas

[@hansschmidt1880]

There is no wrong in this war. The Gaza Arabs are Hamas.

[@TruthFiction]

Blame Hamas. They have refused to wear uniforms in combat since day one, so every military age male in civilian clothing is a valid military target. Hamas knew this would happen and they deliberately gave Israel the legal justification to shoot at any male in order to maximize casualties among civilians and in the hope that something like this would happen that they could announce to the world as blatant Israeli aggression.

[@GhoulJaron]

Israel did worse things then what you say here like R word in 1948 but can you really be judged when you got the US on your back?

[@ryanmoore2447]

​@@GhoulJaronit's happening now too they even filmed it

[@ryanmoore2447]

@@GhoulJaron like wrong is wrong when Hamas did it it was wrong but Israel is suppose to be a democratic country that's all about ppls rights

[@88Expert]

Free Palestine from zionazi

[@sly2792004]

Free Prussia from Russians and poles too right?

[@purebloodstevetungate5418]

You can separate Jewish and Zionism both are mutually exclusive.

[@captaindookey]

Palestinians are part of the semitic people. They are literally Jews who converted to islam. You're the smartest people in the world, you should know this.

[@alonvinkler]

That's not true, just factually incorrect. The Palestinians are a bunch of Arab tribes. There aren't Jews.

[@everynameiwantedwastoolong6887]

​​@@alonvinklerThey're all Semitic peoples. OP isn't quite accurate with their statement, but Jews and Arabs are related. Hebrew is also very closely related to Arabic for example, with them both falling in the West Semitic branch of the Afro-Asiatic language family.

[@HarJBeRw]

Both Arabs and Jews are semitic groups, that doesn't mean Arabs are Jews. Palestinians are Arabs. Jews and Arabs are related, but still different groups

[@alonvinkler]

@@everynameiwantedwastoolong6887 trust me I know Hebrew but to claim that Palestinians are Jews that converterd to Islam is incorrect. Biblically we are from Abraham and the Jews and Arabs are from Isaac & Ishmael, still Ishmael wasn't Jewish.

[@thesunnyleopard.193]

Many of these Zionists use this trick to justify persecution under the pretext that Muslims who speak Arabic are Arabs, but this is wrong. Most Arabic speakers are not Arabs to begin with, and this does not strip them of their history or land like the Palestinians and other Arabic-speaking peoples.

[@user-hz6xo8mx1s]

There is no two state solution just one state Palestan ..

[@Inquisitor-Beals]

Israel came first not Palestine. It says so in the Bible

[@danielpritchard510]

Lol no

[@RightfulArchon186]

bro just share the state at his point u 2 have to stop fighting

[@Dev-uc1sk]

​@@Inquisitor-Beals the bible also says that thr jews should never have rest and should always be fleeing, the jews wjere the ones who killed jesus

[@mercyrickert8987]

Never will be peace as long as there is Islam

[@jimikazak]

#isrealinazistate #stoptopthegenocide

[@emanresUdesreveR]

How is israel a nazi state where their own people get killed in death camps in nazi germany 💀

[@kingandrew6436]

German painter wasn't wrong he should have painted the whole picture red. These ppl are the ppl wherever they are. In Europe jews were the prblm and in now the same ppl took the land of natives and those natives actually converted to islam.

[@quadro4886]

🤦‍♂️

[@johannthedeceitful5968]

God help you

[@kurolap7882]

If you're opinion is something like "Hitler was right" you maybe....maybe...,might want to re-evaluate your view of the world

[@makeroftoys]

The definition of Palestinian refugee makes ZERO sense. Look it up.

[@PCDelorian]

I love this, the problem with giving Jews and Arabs equal rights if they would have equal rights.

[@pmatthewreid]

This is absolute nonsense. It tells a story that is based on a fake narrative.

[@danieldipalma704]

Maybe you should stop committing genocide and call yourselves a victim. The land belongs to the Palestinians.

[@paulamarsh1]

False narrative! Jews are proud citizens, never been refugees kike the Palestinians...read the words of Zuheir Mohsen: Mohsen himself stated that "The Palestinian people does not exist … there is no differences between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians, and Lebanese", though Palestinian identity would be emphasised for political reasons. In a March 1977 interview with the Dutch newspaper Trouw he stated that "between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese there are no differences. We are all part of one people, the Arab nation [...] Just for political reasons we carefully underwrite our Palestinian identity. Because it is of national interest for the Arabs to advocate the existence of Palestinians to balance Zionism. Yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity exists only for tactical reasons"...

[@davsaltego]

No shame in showing your ignorance in public? You just repeat slogans with zero knowledge of historical and political facts. You should get an education.

[@TruthFiction]

The Palestinians were the first ones to try to steal the land in 1948. They literally declared they would kill every Jew in Israel and take all the land for themselves AND LOST. Guess what, the people who start and lose a war of aggression don't get to claim the rewards for it. They lost the right to the land when they tried taking all of it by force.

[@NikoBellaKhouf2]

There's more Palestinians outside of Palestine than inside Palestine

[@iamchillydogg]

Yahweh dispersed the Jews and he hasn't called them back that's why Israel has so many problems.

[@shadowrealmgamer4147]

Occupied Palestinian land

[@Dinogamer7193]

No its not

[@farhanahammed4187]

This is a funny joke, like whos with me 👇🏽

[@jeffreyjohnson7359]

Imagine if the Arab states had accepted the 1948 partition and nit attacked. Israel would be much smaller, Palestine much larger. Then imagine if Israel had not attacked in 1967. Gaza would still be part of Egypt, the West Bank still part of Jordan. The present always suffers from the mistakes of the past.

[@sitiopalarcadesatur5007]

Spot on! The historical facts of persecution argue for a sovereign Jewish state for all Jews. Nothing less.

[@Thatrandomguy485]

#FREEPALESTINE

[@ryanlow6901]

#FREEISRAEL

[@CECS1]

In israel everyone is able to live in peace because its a democracy.

[@nolga3569]

then why is corrupt bibi still there? fake ass democracy

[@speeprun]

Yes and in America all parts of the country are in peace and can live happily ever after

[@CECS1]

@@speeprun at least it's not a Maslim shit hole

[@Max_Skogr]

Yep, it's the only strong democracy in the middle east.

[@hyumiliatedbs3355]

No, even the Orthodox disagrees there, they were beaten by the police just because they openly demand the war to end

[@jmendas1998]

One state two people,very nice

[@Bilbs97]

The international community that supported them should give them a pierce of their lands. As simple as that.

[@Aung1988]

This video is along the lines of please allow us to commit crime because we’re poor.

[@Dinogamer7193]

I just wish Israel could get its land all back

[@nolga3569]

then got to poland and germany

[@Max_Skogr]

​@@nolga3569 The Jews have been living there for more than 3000 years, even before the foundation of Islam. That's a Jewish cultural and historical land they'll love there; it's their right to exist in that historical land.

[@Ahnaf-mo6lz]

@@Max_Skogrmuslims and christian’s have been living there for way longer they also have a right to the land not just jews

[@user-uh9me7ej1q]

Yet Jews were there we Jesus was crucified and their was no Muslim witnesses​@@Ahnaf-mo6lz

[@allenbeltran4696]

@@Max_SkogrWho says you have a right to live were people who follow the same religion lived 1000 years ago?

[@pennyfurr3216]

They should not have put the Jewish state in the middle of land where thousands of Palestinians had lived for hundreds of years.

[@drunktrump5209]

I agree that Zionism is evil and harms both Jews and Muslims. However, be honest with the facts, as thousands of Jews have also lived there for hundreds, really thousands, of years

[@jsnrvst]

How about this? We have a country divided in three state-like entities: Israel, Palestine, and Jerusalem. Each of these three states' citizens can visit the other two freely, but they can't move there unless given permission by the local government of these states, which are in full control of immigration. The rights of Jews (and everyone else, but Jews specifically, as that is a major concern for Israelis) are protected in the constitution. Jerusalem could have constitutionally mandated restrictions on immigration stipulating that neither the Palestinian population or Israeli population of Jerusalem may fall below 45% of the overall population, though the goal would be to stay as close to a 50-50 split as possible. There could be a similar national policy to keep a certain parity between Israel and Palestine's voting population, or at least its voting population. If it looks like Palestinians are outnumbering the Israelis, we fast-track immigration and access to citizenship in Israel. It would also maintain a similar rule for it's leadership, trying to achieve parity amongst elected officials. The overall country would be a constitutional republic, and there could be a rule that if the President is Jewish then the Prime Minister must be Palestinian, and vice versa. It wouldn't be perfect, but it would certainly be an improvement on what they have now, wouldn't it?

[@gamer4life0602]

1948

[@maemaemae9032]

Like Lebanon?

[@jsnrvst]

@@maemaemae9032 I don't know. Is Lebanon like that? Is it working?

[@JerseyBoy83]

What we need is a 2 state solution, a Jewish state west of the river and an Arab state east of the river. Half of Palestine was made into the Arab state Jordan and then the Jewish state Israel was formed in 1948. That’s it! Jordan is the Arab state in Palestine. There needs to be a deal made for any Arabs west of the river who don’t want to live in a Jewish state to move to Jordan.

[@andrewyee660]

How about Jerusalem? It’s sort of in the east

[@erikrungemadsen2081]

They tried that, the Palestinians tried to topple the Jordanian government.

[@spudpud-T67]

@@erikrungemadsen2081 Everyone in the middle east hates the Palestinians but they lump the problem on to the Jews. How convenient.

[@aaronkristo858]

The last time Jordan let a bunch of Palestinians in they tried to kill the king and overthrow the government. They don't want them either.

[@cybershake9200]

Former Israel defence minister: we created hamas and gave them 1.3 billion so they fight west bank. For president if israel: we built the tunnels in gaza both statements on record. It is not about a solution rather gen*cide and land.

[@cybershake9200]

These statements are on record in front of a Camera.

[@spartan.prime.7878]

As God decrees it, we should bless Israel

[@Real_Iron_Smith]

Just remember, Judah and Israel in the bible, specifically First and Second Kings/Chronicles, demonstrate that a nation claiming itself to be "Israel" does not automatically fall in God's favor. In fact, God Blessed Judah far more often than its sister nation CALLED "Israel" to the North, because Judah followed God more often.

[@spartan.prime.7878]

@Real_Iron_Smith Old Testament is fullfilled with the prophecy of Israel being reformed. This is Israel and the children of Israel fall under the protection of God as well as his favor. Know your scripture better buckwheat.

[@MustafaAdelAli]

@@Real_Iron_Smith The Amarna letters predate that scripture, and they specifically mention the Canaanites as vassals to the new Kingdom of Egypt in the late bronze age. That's an absurd claim to this land, yet it still has stronger evidence than the bible that was never meant to be a land deed nor a history book.

[@Real_Iron_Smith]

@MustafaAdelAli Maybe my post was unclear, my apologies. I am saying that just because a nation CALLS itself Israel, does not automatically mean it IS the Biblical Israel, and furthermore, it does not automatically get blessed.

[@BasedBill_Lumbergh]

You lost that right after you killed Christ. There no longer is a chosen nation, only chosen individuals.

[@termination9353]

Hello -Im the Moschiach. I'm willing to declare all Pallestinians descendants of Jacob's twelve sons and are therefore just as rightfully heirs to the Holy Land as equal citizens.... One State Solution.

[@atarasarinanetanel8582]

This is a mistake because they are descendants of the bnei yishmael. Not Yitzhak.

[@termination9353]

@@atarasarinanetanel8582 You don't know that. Neither does any claimed Jew know for certain that they are descended from Jacod. Anybody anywhere in the world could be a descendant of the Lost Tribes.

[@atarasarinanetanel8582]

@@termination9353 some people do others don't know there's a saying that when the Jewish mashiach comes Elijah the prophet will know what to do because he never died and he knows all the family trees because he's been at every circumcision and others stuff like that.... He is pretty much the angel of this stuff. He's like the original Santa Claus. But Jewish 😂

[@termination9353]

@@atarasarinanetanel8582 Which is what I'm doing right now. Deny me and you deny yourself having an Israelite nishama.

[@atarasarinanetanel8582]

@@termination9353 uuhhhhh not sure if it works like that.... By the way how are you related to king David? What branch of the family tree are you from? And when are you going to set up the Sanhedrin? Or build the beit hamikdash? What building plans are you planning on using?

[@anarabontheinternet]

Lebanon's government (or how it works and how it is organized) could be how this state could work. The nation, lets call it Canaan as to not be biased to any religion, could have a Jewish, Muslim, and Christian representative. They can make decisions, it may be messy but would be the best solution if this happened.

[@omnighostking5261]

That sounds like a horrible idea, sorry bro.

[@nikoizmus6780]

Why is your freedom so much more important? You’re not the chosen people no matter how much you cry you are

[@yarnybart5911]

Israel already is a multiithnuc democracy with freedom of religion.

[@7MA7AM7]

Sure kiddo keep sleeping under a rock

[@yarnybart5911]

@Ma-nq4iv Hmmm. Druze, Jews, chrustuan and myslim arabs, africans. Freedom ifvreligion is protected. 20% arab population. Spin your BS someplace else.

[@Inquisitor-Beals]

@@7MA7AM7it seems you are living under one and eating the lies and propaganda of Hamas

[@beleivernew7149]

Then it wouldn’t be a problem to include the other 10 million Palestinians right ?!

[@yarnybart5911]

@beleivernew7149 Oh, it would, because we see what they would do if guven the chance. Because the Gazans don't seem to want to live in a democracy with freedom.of religion.

[@danielcarvalho1453]

If Israel cannot have a Jewish minority as a result of Muslim immigration, why do you promote the same thing for European countries?

[@user-ww5no3nm3s]

It's very, very racist. That's why you people have wars through your whole life. Cause you cannot live with nobody too much greed

[@Bananabear20]

Son, there 27 countries where Islam is the state religion and you’re worried about Jews having one

[@Bananabear20]

The too much greed factor is just laughable you hypocrite When the entire peninsula is Arab Muslim, outside of one state that is 0.01% of it

[@pappy101]

100%... look at all the illegal m0nopolies our politicians don't work to stop... We should stop dual citizenship in America if you are a business owner especially and get rid of all the foreign owned industry.

[@UnknownString88]

Back to school

[@danthaman743]

We in Israel live with 2 million Arabs with full citizenship and rights like any other! How many Jews are there in Palestinian society? ZERO

[@samirmuhammad1781]

The UN, and the West created this issue.

[@MariaReyes-wg5zx]

Palestinians demans Muslim laws must be respected.

[@rufescens]

Israel IS a multicultural democracy. But people are too ignorant to understand that--and apparently the speaker in this video has forgotten that as well.

[@Joaquim-qf8qx]

The problem is that you say it like sionisme was actually threatened even though Israel is a nuclear power, backed up by America, who literally destroyed any resistance in the region since 1948 and Hamas are just around 50 000 farmers with kalashnikovs backed up by just a few third world countries. Jewish sovereignty isn't in danger, Palestinian sovereignty is and has always been.

[@doctorsartorius]

Translation: Everything is all about us, by us, and for us jews.

[@niyanlan8928]

If we know anything about international politics and culture it’s that fundamentalist Islam loves multicultural democracy I’m all for this solution, where do I vote

[@kyleolcott1769]

Historically, the main barrier t setting up a democracy are setting up institutions. It's why nations like the US that had democratic institutions during their colonial period succeeded while other like Gran Colombia failed. Israel/Palestine already have those institutions.

[@asafwolicki4529]

the other thing its missing is palestinians wanting a democratic shared state

[@jyy9624]

Even western Europeans cant pull off a one state solution

[@uzhasair]

If the whole point after WW2 was to protect Jews by giving them their own state, why not just give them some German land? The Palestinians didn’t wrong the jews so why should they be punished?

[@pilotdrift05]

Israel and only Israel