One Stick Method: Rappelling with a Mad-rock Safeguard and a Figure 8

[@n085fs]

I still recall a joke someone asked me in 3rd grade: "If Pete and Repeat are in a boat, and Pete jumps out; who's left?" "Repeat" "If Pete and Repeat are in a boat, and Pete jumps out; who's left?" Thanks for the reminisce.

[@davefrancis6654]

I really appreciate you demonstrating this method in the snow and with cold weather hunting gear on, as most other videos are in good weather and seem to be further south. I'll be one sticking in the northern snow soon!

[@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220]

Good luck and be safe!

[@JBJHonez]

Finally, a video that shows a not so perfect tree that has no limbs. Great vid guys

[@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220]

Thanks for watching!

[@charlesshepherd9132]

Excellent video shooting both methods in a safe and concise manner. I will save this video to refer others to who are considering one-stick climbing.

[@Big-G-man85]

I’ll be sticking with the 3 sticks and a stand method. Nice video!

[@GrowHunting]

Gentlemen, Great demonstration of one stick methods. I wish I had seen it before investing is mutli-stick. We shall see what next year brings.

[@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220]

@growhunting thanks for watching. One sticking has been a good climbing method for us, but there is definitely a time and place for multiple sticks. Good luck out there.

[@Flashwink1786]

Best video on one sticking out there

[@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220]

Thank you!

[@thewordexaminedministries6206]

This is a great video. Well planned and good quality. Thanks!

[@joemarchewka4865]

Very nice video, you can always learn something. Is there a closer view out there that shows a closeup of an auto-blocker when repelling?

[@GregorsOutdoors]

You guys make it look so effortless! I'm okay with afternoon hunts but predawn is not up for discussion at this point. The repelling is cool too but I'm not going to try it. Thanks for all the helpful information and great explanations along the way! Stay safe out there!

[@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220]

Thanks for watching Johnny! Stay safe and good luck out there this year.

[@adamsoutdoors]

Great video guys. Liked that you showed both ways of repealing down. I have used a figure 8 in repelling before. Definitely way cheaper to get started of your not sure if you will like the saddle hunting. Thanks

[@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220]

Thanks for watching Adam’s Outdoors.

[@Patrick-oy6er]

Great video guy's! I just started looking into saddle hunting and have watched a shit ton of vid's and this is the clearest most concise one yet. Seems to be the safest as you're tethered the whole time......I'll definitely be giving this a go ... thanks!

[@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220]

Thanks for watching! We totally agree on the safety aspect.

[@brewhan3108]

Excellent video. Thank you!!

[@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220]

Thanks for watching.

[@michaelmanthey9858]

Thank you

[@aarontaylor6000]

Thanks for the video.

[@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220]

No problem Aaron. Hopefully it helped you out, thanks for watching! Good luck this season.

[@AHeartForHomeEducation]

Thanks for the thorough review!

[@jowhi9296]

I really want to switch to one stick. So much easier it seems when you done hunting, I always stay out as late as I can and often times have issues finding steps on way down lol

[@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220]

Packing up at the end of the hunt is a breeze. It definitely is safer coming down the tree in my opinion and doesn’t take long to get everything gathered up to get out of the woods.

[@fredmassie2313]

Right on! Good content!

[@jesseherbert2585]

Hi, outstanding upload. My wife's brother (her twin funny enough) is a world famous mountain guide, and I have been thinking of asking him about options for saddle hunting. Now not needed! One question: why are many folks repelling down rather than just reversing the ascent? Does it save a lot of time? Safer? I enjoy minimizing weight and gear on walks in, so I am loathe to buy more rope, unless it is a substantial improvement... Thank you once again for a top shelf upload, fellas.

[@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220]

Thanks for watching Jesse, repelling down the tree saves quite a bit of time and we feel it is safer than trying to descend with a stick and an aider.

[@jesseherbert2585]

Good to know. I'm doing it then. Thanks and good hunting and all the rest. Here is my return tip: check out Arthur Haines and his videos. Might be super valuable in the coming years...I've studied with him and he is insanely knowledgeable.

[@timcole2701]

Awesome - thanks for the info

[@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220]

Thanks for watching Tim!!

[@dewaynewebb3467]

Awesome video guys. I plan on using the figure 8. What size diameter and length of the distel hitch rope? And where did y’all get the ones you used? Thanks

[@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220]

Thanks for watching! We use 6mm Sterling TRC rope for the Distel hitch. A 4 foot piece is what you need for length. You will have to tie a double fisherman’s knot for the loops on the end. Let us know if you have any other questions. We bought ours from Eastern woods Outdoors. doublesteps.com/product/sterling-6mm-trc/

[@bobetzweiler2890]

Great demonstration. Thanks!

[@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220]

Thanks Bob!

[@vitalgroundoutdoors]

Great job gents!!

[@smau990]

At 3:57 you have enough slack to break bones and get internal bleeding from the fall onto static rope in case the ladder breaks. If you use hyperstatic aramid/dyneema rope like oplux, the result is even worse. You could put in the linemans before advancing on the steps, hold on the linemans and skip it up on every step as one would do when using spurs and linemans belt to climb a pole.

[@nickkuhle5290]

Any chance you can share how you get your distal hitch, secondary safety, hooked up?

[@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220]

Hi Nick, thanks for watching. We will try and get a video out soon going over how to tie the distal hitch. Thanks!

[@tylerlee549]

Nice video

[@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220]

Thank you!

[@WillCamp4]

Cool video. Only thing keeping me from one sticking is the fear of dropping my stick and having to figure out how to repel lol.

[@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220]

It takes a little practice to get comfortable one sticking and rappelling but we have definitely benefited from it. Good luck to you this season!

[@ISaddleHunt]

Nice climbs and vid sirs 👊🏽

[@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220]

Glad you liked it!

[@boatkid888]

That's pretty cool. I was wondering how the one stick method worked.

[@johnvillella3197]

Great video- can you tell us what rope you use for the distel hitch and how to make one? Also, what pouch is that? Thanks!!

[@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220]

Hi John, glad you liked the video. For the Distel hitch we use Sterling 6mm TRC. Here is a link showing you how to make one. The pouches are from Latitude outdoors and work very well. Link below. www.101knots.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/How-to-Tie-a-Distel-Hitch.jpg www.latitudeoutdoors.com/products/dump-pouch-1

[@johnvillella3197]

@@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220 Awesome! Just ordered the bag and will look for the ropes. Thanks Again

[@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220]

Here is a link for the rope as well. doublesteps.com/product/sterling-6mm-trc/

[@ajdrew252]

Very informative. How high do you typically hunt? About how many feet is the rappel rope/tether?

[@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220]

Hi @ajdrew252, thanks for watching. It all depends on the tree and how much cover there is. Here in Michigan lately I’ve been hunting around 15’ in the early season. When the leaves fall off I’ll normally hunt around 20’. My rappel rope is 35’.

[@sashly99]

When I rappel down with. The mad rock safe guard its really not smooth at all! Any ideas why

[@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220]

Hi S. Ashley thanks for watching. The only time I have issues is if my rope is wet. Then it seems a little jerky. What rope are you using? If it’s a stiff rope if possible won’t feed in very well.

[@jowhi9296]

I might have missed it. But what was on the top of the stick you reached down to grab onto?

[@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220]

Hi Joseph, on the top of the muddy pro stick is just a long gear tie. On Luke’s One stick from Eastern woods outdoors is a small piece of wire that sticks out of the top of the stick.

[@jowhi9296]

@@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220 awesome thanks

[@greg7712]

What kind of hitch did you guys say you use to ascend the tree? I couldn’t make it out

[@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220]

Thanks for watching. It is the Distel hitch.

[@joshross5276]

You can use the 8 as an ascender. Just clip into the big hole anchor side with your carabiner

[@JohnNemeth-vx9vz]

Problem I see with the figure-8 setup is if you drop it while at height you've lost your ability to repel. With the safeguard it is always attached. A fix would be to tether it.

[@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220]

Thanks for watching. If I dropped the figure 8, I would tie a Munter hitch with my carabiner and use that to get down the tree.

[@BushwhackerMountainCoTV]

Awesome review! Thanks fellas!

[@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220]

Thanks for watching!

[@BushwhackerMountainCoTV]

@@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220 you’re welcome! Just subscribed to the channel!

[@trinitymountainarts1196]

Where do you purchase a clip for securing your repel rope so you don't get slack in the line? What is it called?

[@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220]

Hi, it is called an Ohm Tether locker. You can buy it from innovating the outdoors. Thanks for watching. www.innovatingtheoutdoors.com/product-page/the-flexi-ohm-tether-locker

[@trinitymountainarts1196]

@@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220 thank you for the lead on a repel clip. Bought one!

[@cohesive3482]

Whats the little rope keeper you use to keep the quicklink from slipping?

[@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220]

That would be a OHM Tether locker. Thanks for watching. You can buy it here. www.innovatingtheoutdoors.com/product-page/the-flexi-ohm-tether-locker

[@cohesive3482]

@@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220 Thanks!

[@mrbreeze30]

Where did you get the grey plastic rope clips?

[@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220]

Innovating the outdoors OHM Tether locker. www.innovatingtheoutdoors.com/product-page/the-flexi-ohm-tether-locker

[@youtoober87]

I like how the first guy had his tether already hooked up to his madrock and back up. However when I try this I feel like my madrock/carabiner are too loud clanking around before I get them under tension. Any tips? besides stealth strips? they just seem to come off after only a few rappels.

[@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220]

Youtoober87 I wrapped my carabiner with hockey tape and that seems to help with the noise. Just don’t wrap the part of your carabiner where your bridge will be sliding through. I hope this helps. Thanks for watching

[@northeastwildernesswalker]

So how hard is it for you at 4 or 5 in the morning climbing up?? Especially in a hunting situation. Is it easy to stay quiet. It seems like alot of movement too. I have all my saddle stuff in the mail and these things have been in the back of my mind. I'm excited to do it but I'm worried about those few things. What are your thoughts?

[@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220]

Hi Fowl Shot, these are all good questions. It all comes down to practice, Luke and I both practice before the season to make sure everything is dialed in. I used to use a Climber and I know I make less noise and I find it much easier to get up a tree, especially ones with branches.

[@northeastwildernesswalker]

@@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220 thanks for your time man, I have always used a summit viper mini elite SD with great success, however I've gotten In so many great hunting areas that I COULDN'T hunt because you are so limited with a climber. I'm excited to use the saddle. Thanks man. Practice makes perfect

[@Skizzlawncare]

Great video. What Sitka jacket is that in E2 ?

[@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220]

@@Skizzlawncare Thanks for watching. It’s the Sitka incinerator jacket

[@sspice8934]

Great video. There is alot of confusion on backing up the madrock. I contacted the manufacturer directly and they were adamant NOT to put a backup on the brakeside of the device.

[@paytonwolfe6683]

Really? Do you know why? I use a madrock and I was wondering wether I needed a back up or not

[@sspice8934]

@@paytonwolfe6683 They told me if you were to have slack and fall the knot could get slammed through the madrock with such force to cause it to not operate and fail. I am referring to a backup below the device.

[@paytonwolfe6683]

@@sspice8934 I was talking about the same back up as you are. That’s nice to know

[@judelevy4313]

What brand aiders do y’all use, Or did you sew them yourself?

[@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220]

Yes we made them ourselves. They are easy to make. If you are interested in making one we could make a video for you. Thanks for watching!

[@judelevy4313]

@@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220 I just got a muddy stick for one sticking, and want to make one of those aiders, do y’all have a video that y’all followed to make them?

[@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220]

Hi Jude, no there wasn’t a video we used to make them unfortunately. If you shoot us an email we can send you some information on what materials you will need and the cut list to make each step. You can either sew them by hand or with a machine which is recommended. [e-mail]

[@garygrimes2024]

What kind of stick are you using?

[@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220]

Thank you for watching. Luke is using an Eastern Woods ultimate one stick with a flat Scout platform on top. Mark is using a Muddy Pro stick.

[@LynnJynh9315]

According to Madrock, the Safeguard is not rated for 8mm and can only be backed up from above the device.

[@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220]

Yes, you are correct the Madrock is not rated for 8mm rope.

[@UnfiItered]

Why does the mad rock tethered rope look smaller that the figure 8 tethered rope?

[@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220]

We are using different ropes, one is an 8mm and the other is 9mm.

[@UnfiItered]

@@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220 does the mad rock still bite good on the 8mm rope?

[@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220]

Yes, I have never had any issues with it slipping. Just a heads up 8mm is out of spec for the mad rock

[@riggedandjimmiedgarage7268]

How much does your whole climbing setup weigh? I'm thinking about ditching my climber and trying a one stick saddle setup

[@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220]

My pack for opening day of gun season was 28lb. That’s with jacket, camera arm, yeti with hot drink, 40 oz of water, food, one stick, and predator platform.

[@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220]

My pack for opening day of gun season was 28lb. That’s with jacket, camera arm, yeti with hot drink, 40 oz of water, food, one stick, and predator platform.

[@LoCoOutdoor]

What type of tether locker do you use?

[@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220]

Hi Mike, it is the OHM tether locker by Innovating the outdoors. Thanks for watching. www.innovatingtheoutdoors.com/product-page/the-flexi-ohm-tether-locker

[@franklinkungfu]

I still have not seen a demonstration of one stick climbing that eliminates slack from the system. There are too many opportunities for falls with this climbing method.

[@fgpritchett64]

It’s definitely better than the days of screwing steps into the tree as you climb up and then getting in some weird positions where you’re holding on with just your legs or whatever you can grip the tree with while you hang a lock-on.

[@sspice8934]

a good way to eliminate slack is to pull up the brake side of your rope as you go up your aider. I use my lineman belt once I step on my one stick. and then advance the tether up. Don't know if that made sense but it works really well. I have very little to no slack at all times

[@ThomasShue]

Do that in the dark at 25f

[@Peanutbutter475]

Called a light

[@brianscustomcanvas1911]

You guys could really mess with people 😁😵‍💫 arguing with right and wrong process and ultimately pointing out the right way. It would really get people's attention to pay attention.

[@peteandrepeatoutdoors7220]

Haha, we have had our fair share of messing with people over the years. Thanks for watching!

[@ryanj2071]

Ooooh you're Rappelling. Not Repelling

[@jamesstockton3777]

Funny, all these young guys "one sticking" cause the 4 or 5 extra pounds they don't want to carry for safety.

[@huntfishexplore7636]

This is more safe, because you're roped up on a tether the entire time. Except when he passes a branch but I use a tether for that as well..

[@darkhorse6829]

That stick is wasted space and weight... I just.ascend rope via mad rock belay, hand ascender and foot loop