The Ultimate SRT Saddle Hunting Setup - The Halfline Climbing System - Updated for 2024

[@reelhighmedia916]

I really appreciate how you explain and demonstrate each piece of gear. Too many channels people will use gear but never show you in detail how to use it, how to connect it, and how it works. So thank you for a real video!

[@roncoderre]

Your best, most professional presentation yet! I've been using your Trango half-line system pretty much since you introduced it. Light weight, safe, QUIET, compact, easy. While I've historically upgraded to each improvement in the half-line system, I'm convinced that you guys have come up with the optimal configuration. You can be proud of the impact you've had on the hunting community.

[@NYSaddleHunter]

Thanks buddy appreciate that !

[@jesseherbert2585]

Outstanding! And for those who want to tie more knots and skip the metal ascender and rapel devices the JRB climbing channel has information on that... Thanks again!!! "Together we rise"

[@Zac-SquatchFamilyOutdoors]

I have to admit the thought of climbing a rope at 6’5” and 250lbs with size 16 boots had me feeling skeptical, but I got sooooo tired of carrying in sticks and having them hang off of me as I ascend so I pulled the trigger and ordered this system. I have looked at the parts individually, there really isn’t much mark up on this. Additionally id rather trust someone who stands behind their product and has put in countless hours of research to find us the best info. Hats off to you fellas! This is great!!!!

[@NYSaddleHunter]

@@Zac-SquatchFamilyOutdoors Thanks Brother, Appreciate the feedback. Good luck 🦌

[@erikblaise1]

I’ve been using a climber for years and just ordered my first saddle. I have been doing lots of research to decide how I want to get up and down a tree and I really hate the idea of carrying/managing sticks especially the work to descend in the dark. I can’t believe anyone uses sticks when this method is available. I will be ordering the half line kit shortly. Fantastic video. Thank you

[@bennydw3]

Have fun presetting lines and never hunting new spots before daylight.

[@unadillariveroutdoors9690]

Love this system! Since switching over to this I have been hammering out presets and climbing trees like I never have before. I was very efficient with sticks but this has made me even more efficient and to be honest safer. Awesome video guys!

[@NYSaddleHunter]

Thanks dude !👍

[@gfrancescon]

watching you fellows for a couple years. stoked to see y'all getting this together.

[@NYSaddleHunter]

Thankyou for your support much appreciated !!!

[@brianscustomcanvas1911]

I'm a fellow upstater. Great video. You guys came a long way. I've been saddle hunting for yrs over 9. Your the only guy that show a legit Blake's hitch technique. I use to be an arborist back in the 80s this is a slick set up. Happy and safe hunting everyone.,

[@NYSaddleHunter]

@@brianscustomcanvas1911 thanks bud. I started my career in 86 in tree care . To say climbing trees is in my blood is an understatement . Hope to cross paths one day Brian 🦌

[@brianscustomcanvas1911]

@@NYSaddleHunter Most definitely 😁 would enjoy the company of fellow hunters and exchange tech tips and past memories whether I travel to you or if you are in the lake George Adirondack park area before this hunting season. And pick up gear personally 😁

[@underdogoutdoors]

I use your hunter safety system with the F4, & after a season with it- can't see ever hunting without it. Thanks for all you do!

[@seanreid7313]

Fantastic video. Thanks for sharing. It's very flat where I live and I've ever only rock climbed inside a gym. This is cool to see single line climbing being used in tree hunting, never thought of that. I'll be making changes for the end of this season and for next!

[@MiMi-nz8km]

My dad would have loved this channel! I’m so proud of you guys! ❤️🙏🏻🦌

[@NYSaddleHunter]

Thankyou Michelle, that means a lot. !!!

[@paeseprecisionarchery711]

Outstanding job as usual fellas!!!!!

[@echocall]

What knot do you use to tie the loop on the end of your half-line? Bowline?

[@NYSaddleHunter]

@@echocall yes

[@westleytaylor5622]

I have your mobile hunting system with the f4 device and I love it. Very interested in this, might upgrade this season.

[@PatrickOhara-r3h]

Awesome job as always. Scott and Joe you guys are amazing.

[@NYSaddleHunter]

👍

[@selfbuilfab]

I started using the SRT system last year after finding a video of yours and I’ve never looked back! I will be adding the 8mm hitch cord this year. I don’t know if that’s new to the setup or if I just looked over it previously but this setup is money for us long walkers!

[@NYSaddleHunter]

Yes new to the Half-line .

[@alexu8199]

Love the video!!! Thanks for your work!

[@NeverDunnFishing]

You did a great job explaining this. I have been scared of repelling, but the redundancy you explained eases my mind. I’ve been using a 2tc for this season, but having a preset would be awesome. Will be ordering.

[@NYSaddleHunter]

@@NeverDunnFishing 👍. Full kits will be available in a week

[@stevenl4494]

17:40 OPTION: Put the foot loop (you'll have to figure out how you want to do it) on the hand pull down loop or rope. With your foot you can auto tend the ascender when stepping up. No need to do it "manually ". A number of ways to do it...not everything needs to be COTS. FYI, I'm betting you can ditch the trango ($$) in the process. In fact I'm very sure of it. Just auto-tend the friction hitch. Rappel w/ the same hitch and a munter/figure 8.

[@NYSaddleHunter]

@@stevenl4494 don’t bet on it . I tried it not as smooth. I’ll stick to what I’m doing, works fine !

[@stevenl4494]

@@NYSaddleHunter I'm not asking anyone to change, do whatever you're comfortable with. But there's options. Literally did as described yesterday ... different feel, yes, but also felt effortless. Not completely sold on my back up knot and trango, but it works. For my own reasons I'd like to ditch the trango/madrock eventually. Believe a quick snap from Home Depot will help with that. Haven't tried it out yet. If it tends well, then I'll have achieved success. Love this system BTW, best there is IMO. Just "blending" it with aspects of others, component wise.

[@NYSaddleHunter]

@@stevenl4494 understandable, I also get the one stick route . Have one myself. My plan for this season is to use my stick as my primary platform due to ease of setup over a regular platform. Plus the other benefits of hanging cameras . I’m not much for going in blind to a spot I’ve never been before based off of maps . To many variables. Not opposed to using it to make a lateral move and if bears fruit, leave a preset if it warrants a return trip .

[@stevenl4494]

@@NYSaddleHunter presets 💯 preferred. Yep, got out of the blind spot business long ago. But as you say, one's "system" needs to take advantage of deer activity out of range, that kind of sign 😬 needs to be exploited. Doesn't happen too often, but one cannot pass it up when it does.

[@bowhuntznj]

Scott it looks awesome I can’t wait to try it down here in Florida!👍

[@tylerrussell6276]

awesome tutorial and in depth breakdown of everything. going into first time climbing like this and the video was very educational.

[@nickpalladino10]

As a safety guy in the tree world always check that tie in point if you can! Last thing you want it that branch union to be crappy when you put your weight on it!

[@gordonneverdies]

This is a nice quality video. Excellent job guys! I'll be trying this method for sure.

[@NYSaddleHunter]

Thankyou !

[@dorsonhess4805]

From the Pocono Mtns of Pa. Thank you awsome video

[@madhuntsadventures]

Awesome video with great instruction. Thanks guys!

[@curtchanning5074]

Hey Scott I like your channel.I was wondering how do you gain confidence in you rope when you climb.That is the problem I have

[@NYSaddleHunter]

@@curtchanning5074 do everything a few ft. off the ground til your comfortable , then move higher . Eventually you’ll realize what you can do at 2 ft , you can do at 22 ft . If you’re feeling uneasy at hunting height double up . Run a short tether with your climbing line . Stay connected to both. 2 points of connection should put you at ease . Take your time and execute each step proficiently .

[@pickledcottoncandy]

How would you rig around thw trunk from the ground in the event of a tall tree with no limbs low enough to tie to?

[@chrissemenza]

Love the system . Do you happen to have a video which shows how you Created the orange attachments on both ends of your climbing rope along with the fixed eye? for those of us that already have a climbing rope and want to modify it ?

[@towarzyszbeagle6866]

I'm guessing they're spliced in. But if this helps, I made a guerilla half line set up by tying off a short length of throw line to one of the inside knot lines of a figure eight loop before I dressed it up to use as the girth hitch loop. It functions exactly like the connection point on their loop shown here.

[@averytoledo3058]

Great Video - do you have a video for the two-tether method that Joe talks about in the videos?

[@wasntmetoo583]

Practicing mine this summer, getting ready

[@NYSaddleHunter]

@@wasntmetoo583 👍👍👍

[@nc_mtbmedic1399]

Looks good, gonna try it on my next hunt...have a tree in mind

[@douglaspauley6115]

First year saddle hunting. Using SRT and loving it. What is the smallest limb you will put a girth hitch on?

[@NYSaddleHunter]

@@douglaspauley6115 I tend to stick to the forearm size limb rule . And it’s positioned in the crotch of that limb which is stronger . If your ever at question on the integrity of your limb selection then go around the trunk of that union instead .

[@BassBomber]

was just wondering if I could use a prussic or other friction knot and tend with the carabiner instead of the vargo

[@NYSaddleHunter]

@@BassBomber No ! , I designed this system to be so smooth and easy to do. There’s definitely more than one way to climb a rope . There’s just not IMO an easier , lightweight , compact more efficient way to do it , all the while using a Safe , Quiet and Effective Method !!!

[@shaejenkins8015]

Hey thanks for the videos they are great. I just wanted to get your opinion /thoughts. I one stick with 40ft of 9mm canyon elite rope and my ascend/repel rope is my tether when I reach hunting height. There are a few trees I hunt that don’t have limbs. My thought was that similar to the false hitch I would leave para cord tied around the main trunk of the tree with a carabiner attached to it then I would have my preset loop through the carabiner. When I go out to hunt I Attach my climbing rope to the preset loop and pull it through, then from the opposite side of the tree (similar to when you crotch in) you set a girth hitch on the main trunk of the tree just like when you set a false crotch at height with a pole and tether. Do you think this would work and be safe? I haven’t had a chance to test it out yet. Thanks.

[@matthewstruven4838]

I like the idea of this method but what I don’t like about this is how far away from the tree you are while climbing and the movement it takes to get there. This is quiet but it’s not necessarily stealthy. Lots of movement and we all know deer look for movement. Ive been busted while climbing with stick from movement alone. I’ve also been able to stop climbing on sticks because I saw deer coming close and not spook them. I think this has its place maybe early morning only when there is no light but the amount of movement is what kills it for me. Being close to the tree to hide movement is key when sneaking in midday or in the afternoon imo. It is a very informative video but like I said, it has its place. Also, I rarely hunt an area more than a few times a season. Im an extremely mobile hunter and I would need to keep either throw ball or double tether for this to work in every instance. Happy trails and best of luck this season.

[@Eaaatlife]

Is the vergo the same as the madrock? I notice with madrocks people tend the rope with their right hand as they pull the lever with their left hand. But with the vergo they don’t tend the rope with their right hand.

[@kennethrogers1129]

Great setup and smart tips. Personally here in Mississippi I love hitch climbing SRT, I need no mechanical gadgets, no preset cords, nor a throw ball. But I do use a 20 ft pole, two pre-tied ascender/descender hitches, one with a footloop, the other attached to my bridge, Munter hitch rappelling. I love using this setup for new areas. The WMA I often hunt is 30,000 acres of mature oaks and some food plots, so there are lots of new areas to explore. if I want I can leave a preset cord for DSRT or SRT. Scouting is of course a good strategy, but you can spook out a big buck if hou wander around his sanctuary too much, so I map scout then hunt . When I 2TC, my bottom tether has a footloop and a hitch for a redundant safety bridge, top tether has three hitches - footloop, thigh loop and main bridge- very safe

[@paull3262]

Kenneth you have any pictures or video of your setup?

[@Crayz919]

U must watch J.R.B. climbing

[@kennethrogers1129]

@@Crayz919 of course

[@eddierodz]

Scott I absolutely love my half line setup. Thank you for this video. Quick question... I was always taught when I repelled that the opening of your d-ring/carabiner that is attached to your harness/saddle should be facing you as if you were able to hook your lips like a fish if that makes any sense. I see your d-ring opening is facing the tree that is attached to the Tango. I know you have more experience than most so my question is does that matter?

[@alexu8199]

Can you tie your own eyes on a plain piece of hitch cord for the backup hitch or is that a bad idea?

[@NYSaddleHunter]

@@alexu8199 if you know what your doing . Yes . Your also gonna need more material when tying eyes , it can still end up being 30” but you’ll probably need 40” to 45” start with .

[@alexu8199]

@ awesome! Thanks brother!!!

[@cybersec-enthusiast]

Howdy, I've always loved your guys content and learned a lot from it. Couple safety questions: - Wouldn't it be ideal to be tethered into the ascender? As is, if your belay device + knut hitch fail you aren't connected to the ascender at all. - Is there a risk that, if something goes wrong, someone will "instinctively grab" the rope in front of them, and thus depress the knut hitch, and if the belay device was engaged for rappelling have quite a rapid fall? - Does that belay device not need the brake line to be held by a hand? To assist with that, some similar systems have like an autoblock hitch (or a progress capture device like a micro traxion) down by a leg loop to help hold the brake line in case the person's hand is not where it should be. Your system does seem quite safe, but these ideas come to my mind looking at it and hoping for another 1/2 or full point of redundancy.

[@NYSaddleHunter]

Hey Stephen, I feel this system has just enough redundancy in it . Having said that this isn’t something you would buy and run out into the woods and hunt without having practiced and become efficient with . I don’t see where you could add additional redundancy without it hindering the smoothness of the ascent or descent . Could you depress both mechanical brake and hitch cord simultaneously to a rapid descent . Yes , but as I said 1) you need to understand each piece of the system and its use 2 ) you need to practice it to become comfortable with it. And honestly this take about 2 to 3 descents . This device pays out smoothly when activating the brake. Not an all or nothing like some other devices. If you were looking for something more I’d say look into a Gri Gri + it has a panic feature built into the brake in that if you pull to hard it will lock. I would also advise to use the hitch cord as well . Per manufacturer’s request that they are not a hands free device.

[@cybersec-enthusiast]

@@NYSaddleHunter Ok, yes it does seem to be very safe. Really seems like a great system, thank you for the very good points and info.

[@ericposton950]

How are you attaching the foot loop to the quick roll without metal to metal sounds?

[@NYSaddleHunter]

@@ericposton950 2x60mm soft shackle. West Marine

[@lucasg4170]

What are you using for the two tether climbing system for your feet?

[@NYSaddleHunter]

@@lucasg4170 s custom made stirrup. I also have a double stirrup connected by webbing that works really good .

[@lucasg4170]

@@NYSaddleHunter any idea where something like that could be found online? Been searching around but can find anything

[@NYSaddleHunter]

@@lucasg4170 CGM www.customgearmodifications.com/ Reach out to Jerry tell him what you’re looking for . This is also his go to

[@lucasg4170]

Thanks!

[@jackemupgarage2360]

What belay device would you recommend for a newbie ?

[@NYSaddleHunter]

@@jackemupgarage2360 Gri Gri + is the most newbie user friendly devise with the panic feature release system. If you accidentally pull the release brake to hard it will auto lock so not to drop you . Teaches you to ease into the release. The Vergo will give you the same smooth release minus the panic feature.

[@richrappa7906]

One of your best videos yet as far as instruction 👍 Question can I use my existing mad rock? And do you personally use a platform once at hunting height?

[@NYSaddleHunter]

@@richrappa7906 yes and yes 👍

[@richrappa7906]

Are you showing a Left handed CT ascender? Thanks

[@NYSaddleHunter]

@@richrappa7906 yes , most right hand dominant climbers opt for left handed CT Quick Roll.

[@79jeep79]

Will you be at Huntsock in Massachusetts?

[@NYSaddleHunter]

@@79jeep79 not this yr. Definitely next yr

[@NoMMAdd_Soap]

Just out of curiousity why do you not use a foot ascender anymore. I find mine makes it so easy to get up quickly

[@NYSaddleHunter]

@@NoMMAdd_Soap because this system is so easy to ascend, I don’t find it necessary. For me it’s just one less piece of equipment I need . For most it’s beneficial to use and makes it easier.

[@NoMMAdd_Soap]

@@NYSaddleHunterthat does make since. and less metal to spook game. In that case Ill make a rig to attach to my hand ascender and give that a try, thanks so much for teaching us all this knowledge.

[@79jeep79]

How do you tie the loop in your rope to girth hitch?

[@aprustic_creations]

From the Palmetto state…Great stuff boys! 🤙🏼 looking forward to losing my the sticks.

[@akajc871]

So could you not use 2 hand ascenders? Like Be hooked in to one with your bridge and the other one to your foot. Bc they go up so easy? Just asking because I’m not sure. In my head seamsime it be easier.

[@NYSaddleHunter]

You could but definitely to busy and not needed. Honestly this is so easy to do even though sometimes it doesn’t come across that way . When guys show up at workshops i do , it’s the first thing that comes out of their mouths, how safe and how easy it is to

[@812media9]

Which saddle are you using in this video?

[@NYSaddleHunter]

@@812media9 Custome Gear Modifications. Cobra ! If you want it exact as the video Tell Jerry just like Scott’s You tell him what waist and Camo www.customgearmodifications.com/

[@812media9]

@@NYSaddleHunter thank you for the reply. I currently use a 2 panel saddle, can a 2 panel still work comfortably climbing with this system?

[@NYSaddleHunter]

I’m a huge single panel advocate. I’ve used doubles in the past but could never get my comfort level dialed in to where I’m not fidgeting. Since you already have a saddle , I would suggest you try it with rope climbing and see how it works for you .

[@GraceInTheOutdoors]

Great video. The "140in" though. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@NYSaddleHunter]

He’s got a 140 that went MIA 🤫

[@deathmine474]

How would something like this work on a pine tree? Im in florida, the pines dont have alot of solid branches, would the girth hitch hold on the tree trunk without slipping down. Thanks

[@NYSaddleHunter]

@@deathmine474 that’s the difference In girth hitching the trunk and searching for a viable limb . Yes you can girth hitch the trunk , just set it good and make sure it’s around trunk and not hung up on anything else. You can also use a tube cambium saver to keep pine pitch at bay .

[@andrewjohnson4994]

Can you talk about handedness in this setup? Is that a left handed ascender you're using? What is your dominant hand?

[@NYSaddleHunter]

Sure ! It’s actually the opposite of what you’d think it would be. Your dominant hand is the one you tend slack with not the one on the handle of the hand ascender. All my right handed buddies use a left hand ascender . Yes I am left handed but it makes no difference for me I’m ambidextrous. With tree work I would cut left or right handed equally . The nice thing about the CT Hand ascender is that you can spin it 180 degrees and use it right or left handed. The best way to choose is you want the action facing you and the micro pulley away from you Whatever hand you have better dexterity in using your thumb to open and close the action is the side you should choose . Hope this helps.

[@AequitasSaints]

I used this hand ascender and belay device for the first time tonight. I noticed it's flattening my rope. Is that OK? I'm using the ghillie 9.5mm ripe from RNA. What are, if any, long term wear and tear affects of the flattening of the rope. I am assuming this wear and tear is much less significant than a friction abrasion from like a MRS style climb.

[@LIFEONTHELINE-xn8gs]

The S.M.A.R.T. One Sticking (NO SLACK) Method would pair well with Halfline System.

[@justinloupe8365]

Should post ur links on these videos make it easy to bring us straight to website

[@Crayz919]

Can't u use foot stirrup as footloop when using halfline system ?

[@richrappa7906]

Thanks pal

[@drucifuh]

So if the limb I'm attached to is higher than the best hunting height, making the angle of the rope too steep I assume you would switch to your tether?

[@NYSaddleHunter]

Yes and no. If your comfortable at that angle and feel your rope is not interfering with drawing your bow or shooting then your fine. Is the 45 degree angle even more comfortable , yes ! I would practice both ways so if your ever in that situation you can pull it off . When the rope angle is 90 degrees or less. I tend to keep it tight to my body , almost leaning into it . This way it never interferes with shooting . If I know I have to log long hrs before possible getting a shot Short tether at 45 degrees all day 👍

[@undertheradar9295]

That is a Left-Hand ascender and you are Right Handed correct? Thank you, love the channel!

[@NYSaddleHunter]

Yes it is . I’m left handed. But you are right about the configuration. Typically Right handed people will use a left handed hand ascender. I’ll use either equally. It’s more about technique than dominant arm strength.

[@anonymous_friend]

Great videos. I've got some 10.5mm platinum rope. Will that work with the Trango Vergo alright? I see the range printed on the vergo is 8.9-10.7, so I assume it will, but want to make sure I wont run into issues in the tree. Thanks!

[@kevinnielsen4321]

Scott I'm from Michigan got my 40 ft. Of canyon elite from Eastern woods outdoors for one sticking. It has a small sewen eye at one end for just fitting a quick ling thru and a small loop at the other end for pulling gear up. My question is will I be able to thread my rope thru that quick link like you do your bigger loop ???

[@NYSaddleHunter]

If you’re trying to use it like the half-line you’ll have trouble installing it. If you don’t hunt that high you can thread it by hand , then girth hitch it . Retrieval should be relatively easy.

[@deerfishing1]

From a preset in place. Is it difficult to perform the half line girth hitch on thick barked, pine trees? does it have a problem feeding and sinching?? Also wondering your opinion on my buddy leaving his main climbing rope in the tree overnight to hunt the next morning. My worry for him is if a critter chews some of it in the night? Anyway are you for leaving it up for the morning hunt or against it? Might need to add he leaves it because he one sticks and never used presets

[@dylanhixenbaugh4575]

My opinion is that’s a slim chance for one night , but a risk nonetheless, would be very simple to leave a false crotch or a floating anchor tho

[@deerfishing1]

@@dylanhixenbaugh4575 didn’t think about that. But bro at that point just keep the preset up. Ya know ?

[@dylanhixenbaugh4575]

@@deerfishing1 well you said he doesn’t use presets , so I assumed he was one sticking a tree without a crotch or no crotch at his desired height

[@deerfishing1]

@@dylanhixenbaugh4575 sorry didn’t read my comment. But yea. I’m sure he does it to just save time from having to pick up his rope after each transfer. So I don’t feel like he’ll do anything special to get the rope in and out.

[@markmurrell1894]

Can that backup on the mechanical be released easily while under load? Would it work ok with a madrock? I already have one

[@NYSaddleHunter]

@@markmurrell1894 yes it will work with Madrock or Gri Gri + The Vergo is much smoother. It will break under a load just not extreme load. But it easily broken by adding the CT Quickroll on and with one ascent the Vergo or in your case Madrock will easily tend it up so you can resume descent. With practice you can manage both rope and mechanical hitch simultaneously. And even keep off hand on rope lower for added friction if you so choose .

[@markmurrell1894]

@@NYSaddleHunterjust placed my order for the hand ascender, foot loop, and cord. Thank you for your help!

[@NYSaddleHunter]

@@markmurrell1894 Yes it will work with a Madrock. There’s a way to manage both systems with one hand on the Vergo . It might also work with a Madrock where you can depress the brake while tending the hitch cord simultaneously. It takes a little practice but doable . If you drop hard into the hitch cord it can be tough to release. All you would have to do is reattach the CT Quick roll and pump back up a few inches so your Madrock will tend the hitch cord and it will release again

[@NYSaddleHunter]

@@markmurrell1894 Your Welcome 👍. Thanks for your business !!!

[@aaronmeeks1155]

Is that ct hand ascender that your using work on a 9m civ rope? Everything I've read, its only for 10-13, thanks

[@NYSaddleHunter]

@@aaronmeeks1155 it definitely does 👍. 8- 13 mm

[@aaronmeeks1155]

Thanks that helps ​@NYSaddleHunter

[@integratenyc]

will this work with a jx3?

[@NYSaddleHunter]

Yes it will 👍

[@Crayz919]

Why cant u use foot stirrup in this system and couldn't you just use the hitches without the mechanical gizmos ?

[@NGraz]

You could!

[@Mind_Funeral]

You guys are cool 👍

[@Crayz919]

Why cant you wrap rope around foot like loop and stand up and hold rope at main linecwirh 2 hands

[@NYSaddleHunter]

@@Crayz919 you can if that’s your game

[@Crayz919]

​@@NYSaddleHunter I've got shoulder injury and I was wondering if I used a quality light weight 6ft--26ft extension pole to set my rope over a crotch or hitch climbing with your safety line climbing rope / tether / half line rope system is set around trunk of tree or over crotch with extension pole ?

[@ainsleyfoleksfolkes2523]

Can you write the names of the items to make this system please

[@NYSaddleHunter]

@@ainsleyfoleksfolkes2523 www.newyorksaddlehunter.com/. Everything is listed on my website

[@T1gerBeard]

So what about hang and hunts where you don’t have a preset

[@NYSaddleHunter]

@@T1gerBeard you can’t throw into a tree in the dark but I run and gun with this system every yr in daylight . I also do what I call shift on the fly where I’ll hunt a preset but for whatever reason the movement may be better 50 or 100 yds from my tree . I’m down and back up in a new set ready to hunt in minutes. I always carry a folding cube in my pack for such moments. I have no problem throwing a line in the middle of a hunt. Sometimes you have to get aggressive. Sometimes I don’t even need a throwball and monkey fist the end of my rope up over a limb and I’m in. Cutting out the throwball step . The system is designed to improvise on any given hunt . It cracks me up when people say oh you can’t do that during a hunt . Where does it say that ! Is there a rule book somewhere I’m missing 😆. It is what you make it. You can be a hunter or a spectator. It’s up to you. !

[@anonymous_friend]

I know you want to sell your ropes, but if you could show us how to make your girth hitch and loop ends for those of us who already have ropes, that would be very helpful.

[@Nathan-uo9yf]

You can tie a figure 8, and run a fairly stiff but flexible copper wire along the loop and tape it in to maintain the open loop

[@Nathan-uo9yf]

Or tie on a product called quickie notch and it will slide well

[@Njjb122]

I bought into the drt system a few years back when that was "the thing" . I practiced it in the off season until i was proficient. it was a huge waste of time. These climbing systems are good for the same trees that climbers are good in. Your hunting for a good tree not were u need to be. Look how big that tree hes climbing alot of video's there climbing trees that size. Try drt or srt in a basketball sized oak aside from hanging off like tarzan that tree is going to shake and make so much noise every critter will be running out of this area. If climbing sticks arent an option your better off getting climbing spurs there is a pretty steep learning curve for some while others pick it right up.

[@2cthetruth]

I find it hard enough to find that perfect tree for one sticking based on where the deer are expected to be. With this method, you really dont have many options. Yes there are thousands of tree this will work in in your woods, but there is only one or two trees that are in a perfect position for the spot you are actually hunting. Usually, those trees are not perfectly suited for this method.

[@nc_mtbmedic1399]

That's the vt prusic

[@h2hass]

Woooooo let’s goooooo.

[@dylanhixenbaugh4575]

Can I trade in my f4 8mm system for the new one 🤣🤣

[@NYSaddleHunter]

Since I’ve upgraded the system, I’m no longer using 8mm rope or F4 anymore. We can do something for you !

[@NYSaddleHunter]

Since I’ve upgraded the system, I’m no longer using 8mm rope or F4 anymore. We can do something for you !

[@mathewanderson2400]

Man that background music is distracting. Great info, but really hard to focus

[@2cthetruth]

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[@5nuccs]

Then you’re really not mobile. Having to preset your paracord. We don’t want to leave any evidence in public land.

[@NYSaddleHunter]

@@5nuccs I have no problem. And it makes me super mobile

[@NYSaddleHunter]

@@5nuccs I also throw in on the fly as well .

[@5nuccs]

@@NYSaddleHunter in the dark in the winter?

[@NYSaddleHunter]

You don’t have to throw only in dark , winter no problem. You guys need to think outside the box and stop being so narrow minded

[@5nuccs]

@ I want to throw in the dark. Why is that narrow minded?

[@bennydw3]

Not a good system for public land and if you hunt private you might as well put a lock on up and some sticks. Not the answer. Single sticking is still a more flexible and mobile option.

[@NYSaddleHunter]

@@bennydw3 if you say so

[@stevenl4494]

Your comment is total BS, and personally, is a reflection on someone not necessarily connected to reality. It's 120% conducive to public land, why the comment otherwise is idiotic. If it's good enough for public, it's as good for private, barring specific rules. If I missed the point I apologize, but on the surface....it's a very stupid comment.

[@bennydw3]

@@stevenl4494 having to preset lines for unit methods on public land is the problem. Answer me this.. what do you do if you find a new spot on public that you want to check out the next morning? Go in the dark and try throwing a line up into a tree you haven’t scouted before? Just add a couple of pounds and take a 1 stick setup with you.

[@stevenl4494]

1. I have near 35 set ups now on public land. The only limiting factor to that number is me. I could easily have twice that. Most of them based on hunting experience. But no, I'm not going in the dark to do a throw ball, not knowing the advantages. One sticking is the current rave to all things mobile...but when you know where and when, then why? Just preset it. As for the one sicking business, I'll look to perfect the double JRB Cinch climb. Cheaper & much safer. Your preference...keep paying attention.

[@stevenl4494]

​@@bennydw3You need to differentiate between the two - you're not.

[@upsaddlehunter533]

I use a Blake's hitch & foot ascender with no other hardware other than a single carabiner. Otherwise, very close to your system...but I do have to have 2x the rope length of the height I have to climb. I think I could combine your attach/detach system and drop that to 1.2x probably.. thought about it before but never got around to it.. might do so this season now that I've seen that it is indeed very effective. Dropping that extra weight would be huge for me. Also, I use 9mm rope and 5.11 tactical gloves for climbing...those ropes can tear your hands up, especially for my soft computer nerd hands, lol. Be sure to use static rope, dynamic sucks out a lot of the energy you put in while climbing...like on every pull.