Lucas going to Jimmy’s funeral even though he thought Jimmy killed Keith is something not talked about enough
@Dazzlefae3 жыл бұрын
Right?! He gets so much hate for the few mistakes he made, but people just forget all the amazingly selfless things he also did. Like going to the funeral of the person he thought killed his Dad (because Keith was his Dad...) because he had been his friend and he didn't want Jimmy's Mum to be alone... He had absolutely no obligation to go. Everyone would completely understand if he didn't go. I wouldn't have blamed him for spitting on his grave (it would be horrible considering we know the truth and all that, but it'd be understandable given the circumstances...) and yet he just went to the funeral and it was so good.
@thejay38042 жыл бұрын
@@Dazzlefae That's a nasty and evil thing to say about someone who's been wronged in one of the worst ways.
@Dazzlefae2 жыл бұрын
@@thejay3804 I don’t think you understand what I was saying. As far as Lucas knew at the time, Jimmy had murdered Keith. Jimmy went through so much, he deserved so much better and I have so much sympathy for him. But at this point Lucas owed him NOTHING. If he’d actually killed Keith (which he hadn’t!) that would’ve been an absolutely awful thing to do. I wouldn’t have blamed Lucas for reacting with anger towards him. My point was that Lucas showed so much compassion by going to the funeral of the person he believed killed his dad and acting respectfully there… I wouldn’t have been happy if he’d reacted in any of the ways I mentioned, it would’ve been awful to watch and Jimmy wouldn’t have deserved it. But what I was saying is that I wouldn’t have blamed Lucas if he had, considering everything.
@nikkis73753 жыл бұрын
When whitey’s voice breaks saying “Keith Scott” gets me every time 😭
@Smido833 жыл бұрын
Lucas going to Jummy's funeral is maybe the biggest showing of character developement in the entire show. Thats so big, I think most people dont even understand that.
@blakecheaves223 жыл бұрын
Lucas going to Jimmy’s funeral (given the circumstances) is like the biggest thing someone could do. I wouldn’t be able to do it.
@thejay38042 жыл бұрын
Why not?
@chriswilliams4700Ай бұрын
@@thejay3804because he believes this kid killed his uncle, who was his father figure. Lucas going to comfort his mom and go to the funeral show Lucas is a good guy
@lias26973 жыл бұрын
This show is something, it hits you right in the soul. Enjoy the 9 seasons ride, by the end you'll be a different person.
@titealicia01082 жыл бұрын
I agree with you so much. No matter Karen's pain, blaming Lucas and making him feel even worse than he already is was really shitty. I can understand her pain but never, never, at the expense of her child. That she yells at him for putting himself in danger, I understand. But it's to be done later, when he will be in better condition. Blaming an already grieving, traumatizing child serves no purpose other than to take out her own frustration on him and, as a parent, she should know better.
@thejay3804 Жыл бұрын
A true Karen indeed.
@ShaniceXO263 жыл бұрын
How to save a life is such a perfect song for shows
@SweeranSwift2 жыл бұрын
Lucas growing so much. Beautiful character évolution
@paulhynes170 Жыл бұрын
the guy at the school party shouting shooter in the hallway was that the guy who trashed Jimmy's locker at the beginning of the previous episode?
@TheBatman5823 жыл бұрын
You said you don't really feel super attached to any of the relationships super hard, I kind of agree, with the exception of Nathan & Haley. It's pretty clear that they are the relationship the writer's were most invested in as they are set up within the first few episodes of season 1 & we're still actively followed them 3 1/2 seasons later. They have their drama, obviously, but it's clear they are closely tied together in a way none of the other relationships are because they keep coming back to one another. It's so clear they are who the show is mostly built around as far as core relationships go, especially with their marriagem
@ShaniceXO263 жыл бұрын
Show me a perfect mom 😂😂 ain’t no parent perfect and sometimes they make mistakes by saying dumb shit it happens. She’s grieving and in her process of grieving she’s angry at the world. It happens. People grieve differently
@miavega88883 жыл бұрын
Yes agreed until your a parent yourself you won’t understand. No one is perfect, we all make mistakes even adults.
@brookcty3 жыл бұрын
I think it's impossible to watch this episode without tearing up or full-on crying. It was so emotional & heartbreaking. I think the writers try to make the parents on this show imperfect so Karen does have some rough moments. I mean all the parents are awful imo lol. Payton, Brooke, & Haley's parents abandoned them, and I can make a list of how terrible Dan & Deb are so I think they throw in these moments with Karen to show she isn't perfect as the rest. YES to everything you said about the triangle, I felt you so much when you said it would be bad writing and how the development would be worthless.
@kelvinomoyele39123 жыл бұрын
Dan Scott knew to the core of his soul, he was jealous of Keith, Keith took in the family that Dan abandon, adopted Lucas, But Dan just had to take it away (I would say more but I'm not trying to spoil anything).
@Spicytamale023 жыл бұрын
I mean did anyone else notice when Brooke was talking to Lucas in the hallway he stopped listening to her the moment he noticed Peyton talking to Rachel at the party 👀
@SweeranSwift2 жыл бұрын
Just your interprétation
@Spicytamale022 жыл бұрын
@@SweeranSwift I mean he turned his head randomly to the side and focused on whatever he was looking at for like 5-10 seconds while Brooke was talking to him, the camera turned to where he was looking and it was Peyton smiling & talking to someone else. If you didn’t notice it that’s fine.
@DanielleW19923 жыл бұрын
8:50 When has she been a terrible parent? I don't remember her ever being a bad parent but maybe there are things I'm forgetting.
@eeeee39653 жыл бұрын
She hit Lucas when they thought Brooke was pregnant and he told her about it /:
@brookedav1s3 жыл бұрын
if you go back and watch certain scenes she’s actually a horrible parent. she slapped lucas and pretty much everyone else in tree hill people who literally did nothing wrong too, she’s very odd 🤨
@natashaortiz85472 жыл бұрын
The Guy that was in the school hallway kissing the girl while Haley and Nathan were dancing was Hilarie Burton Morgan's brother.
@nikkis73753 жыл бұрын
Since I know he’s already watched all of this I can say I can’t wait for the rest of the season, my fav! Love the music in this episode and in the whole season/show.
@elia_simon3 жыл бұрын
Brooke throwing a party was not the smartest thing ever lol. But the scene in the room with Lucas was so cute. I also loved all the brooke/peyton moments. Loved seeing Lucas smiling again in the library talking to Peyton, even if just briefly. Honestly, its always been about Lucas/Peyton imo, and from season 1 they made that pretty clear that was their preference. This episode was fantastic.
@dramaticcleans20632 жыл бұрын
It's been a while since I last rewatch the show...but iv seen it many times and looooove it! But when is Karen a shitty parent? She's also grieving just like Lucas...but she's a great mom always been fair but protective..lucas does some stupid stuff to piss her off but I really cnt think of a time when I thought Karen was shitty!??
@chriswilliams4700Ай бұрын
She slapped Lucas when she heard Brooke was pregnant. Blames her own son for being selfless and saving someone from a school shooting. Blames him for saving a horrible man from a fire. Treats Lucas like complete dirt when he moves in with Dan. Tells Lucas he is crazy and doesn’t listen to him when he says Dan killed Keith. She was good for the most part, but she was a bad mom plenty of times.
@glazierblue573 Жыл бұрын
I think the point whats been made here, you dont have to be friends with everyone, but you dont have to be a jerk to anyone.
@ShaniceXO263 жыл бұрын
Brooke & the party will always have me side eyeing her. It was so useless. How do you think a party was gonna help that man to grieve his Dad 😩
@brookedav1s3 жыл бұрын
she was just trying to help and maybe it wasn’t the best idea but at least she tried getting him out of the house and surrounded him with some of his best friends.
@mariematala77142 жыл бұрын
@@brookedav1s yes she got him out of the house in the school he has to be everyday knowing what happend very good idea
@ShaniceXO262 жыл бұрын
@@mariematala7714 You’re the only person worth my response rn so thank you 😂
@mariematala77142 жыл бұрын
@@ShaniceXO26 your welcome the pro Brooke's are tiring 😂
@justafanfave2282 жыл бұрын
I am a Brooke fan and I have no idea what she was thinking. It was a very stupid thing for her to do.
@meganhutcheson5867 Жыл бұрын
I’m gonna be devils advocate for Karen, she is acting what some will consider to be normal, or typical grieving, finding some where to put the blame. Right now she just locked in her own anger, grief spiral.
@CarliesEdits3 жыл бұрын
Episode 18 today??
@SimpleReactions3 жыл бұрын
Break Week. That comes next week where everything resumes.
@zachharris30402 жыл бұрын
I think you're missing the point on the whole being friends with people outside of your usual social circle. Mouth isn't saying to be friends with everyone but to be friends with a variety of people and don't close yourself off to someone.
@MusicxxRose2 жыл бұрын
I always thought it was because of real life Brooke and Lucas getting divorced that they put Lucas and Peyton together at that point. I don't think they'll talk about it directly on their podcast. They mentioned they were told different things about what was planned from the beginning of who would Lucas end up with.
@nikkis73753 жыл бұрын
I remember watching this as a 12 or 13 year old kid for the first time, I hated Rachel this season. I was so team Brooke that anyone Brooke hated, I hated lol she was my ride or die and all my friends watched the show with me and would always called me “Brooke” in high school because of all the shit luck she had with boys and her parents. (Even tho peyton obvi had parent issues, she still had 3 parents who loved her and Brooke was quote ‘bored and ignored’ and felt unloveable at times) I would call my BFF Peyton because she related to her so much so that was a cute little memory for us now 😂 now as an adult I can see why there’s no reason to hate Rachel really..
@bulldogg23172 жыл бұрын
No Skills in the top 10 character list?
@bulldogg23172 жыл бұрын
Yeah OTH is GOAT
@Christineciccone922 жыл бұрын
Karen makes me so angry in this episode
@thejay3804 Жыл бұрын
And so does Rachel, her evil disgusting azz 😈
@cookiemonster68162 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry but American solutions to these types of situations are ridiculous.
@thejay38042 жыл бұрын
They just think bullying is a joke and they wonder why the end result is getting worse. God does not like ugly 🙌🏾
@amandagoodtime77512 жыл бұрын
Fun fact the girl who played Rachel is married and has kids with the guy who played dean in supernatural
@Smido833 жыл бұрын
Btw... No love for Scills? Come on, you could at least put him in at the 10... 😉
@dipankarjoshi38283 жыл бұрын
The only time Lucas was happy was when Lucas was talking to Peyton in the library ♥️ endgame stuff
@SweeranSwift2 жыл бұрын
No really. Just your interprétation
@MH-pd2ev2 жыл бұрын
Yes it’s true he was laughing and teasing Peyton and if you didn’t think so that’s your interpretation
@thejay38042 жыл бұрын
Yeah two cheaters of a feather should f**k together 💯
@carltruchon53937 ай бұрын
I don't understand why Dan is your second favorite even if you say you hate him since the beginning.... but... ok.
@SimpleReactions7 ай бұрын
I never said he was my second favorite and that's not what that is and it never has been.