One Week with the OP1's latest Firmware Update // Good vs Bad

[@nolanerck]

Super useful. thanks! bummer about the crackling cable issue…hopefully that gets fixed soon.

[@LiamKillen]

There’s a fix! Here it is: kzbin.infoFPjNol0Fmw8?feature=share

[@kathleencoveny3860]

Wow .. talk about super versatile with this new update .. thanks for the tips .. information .. oh no bad part .. well always gonna meet that .. part of the journey .. yet always a way around .. you really are thorough with all the ins and outs of the process... super helpful .. thanks for your easy to follow instructions .. like the track you came up with .. cheers !

[@LiamKillen]

Thanks for watching! 🎈❤️

[@whatissurge]

For the crackling noise I used a ground loop isolator(ZIOCOM brand) and turned off the charging feature while synced. It seems to help resolve the issue.

[@LiamKillen]

Yes! That totally works

[@jazway27]

Yeah

[@LiamKillen]

☀️CLARIFYING SOMETHING! ☀️ I had mentioned in this video that the OP-1 is not able to export individual tracks which is not true. What I meant is that it's not able to RECORD individual tracks into your DAW, which makes exporting audio much less flexible. What's the difference you might be asking? This video will clarify what I mean: ►bit.ly/3xjz7Ld MAJOR shoutout to Edward Clarke for the OP1 stand: ►etsy.me/3y0rPwP

[@frightnite1607]

Question. Need help! I have a Dell Inspiron 15 w/windows 11 and when I try to mount the op1 it won't connect as a device. It pops up for a second or two and goes away and I'm not able to mount. Do you have any ideas what it could be?

[@nathanwallestad9930]

What may be easier/less time consuming for dumping tracks into your daw is to just use the USB and navigate to the USB/Drive function in the OP-1 and drag your 4-track files into your DAW. They would be all lined up, separated and ready to go.

[@LiamKillen]

The problem i’m having with the usb is anything i record directly to DAW via usb is super crackly.

[@mwmingram]

Exactly!

[@LiamKillen]

❤️❤️❤️

[@hasan7786]

I have an op-1, haven’t used it much since the update and trying out the audio interface update to see if it was an April fools joke. Going to check and record something into logic to see if it’s also crackly. I always hated the usb charging issue when it’s plugged in giving you that hummmmmm. Turning off usb charging never worked for me, got dam electricity and modern society with your lights your seeing at night nonsense. I’ll report back with my findings.

[@bjamminsincebirth3494]

Great video breakdown! Love those drums!

[@LiamKillen]

They juicy! And thanks! Cheers

[@malobeats]

Hey Liam, thank you so much for this video I’m really tempted and train this device out after watching your video. By the way I love your Contin brother thank you for these videos.

[@LiamKillen]

MALO- cheers thanks for reaching out! Really appreciate it 🎈

[@kitschkub1379]

Love this breakdown, thank you!

[@LiamKillen]

Glad to help Kitsch

[@johnseijn]

The crackling is from the usb charging the device, you can turn the charging off, there’s a vid somewhere about it

[@LiamKillen]

Yes i posted a link to a follow yup video in the description

[@clearnyquil1620]

Unfortunately, it seems you've complicated your process. 1:35 and on, you can export 4 individual tracks (separate stems), and a master, now, and before the update through (shift/COM(DISK) USB, mode. You can't bus them live, individually like certain 4 in/out interfaces, but you export them to a computer from a saved aif file. Also, to get a "master track", use the built in recorder while your live mix is playing and record to "vinyl" then export and overlay with the 4 individual "tape" tracks. This is a good way to get some cool master effects going too. Thing is, this workflow is based about in OP-1 workflow. If you start the bulk of the work here, its 5 tracks to work with, easy.

[@LiamKillen]

I’ve never tried this actually but i’ll look into it- thanks! seems like quite a few steps though and “op1 heavy” just to export individual tracks where as with other instruments like the Digitone + Roland products it’s one step- directly through USB.

[@claypipemusic]

@@LiamKillen you just connect your op1 via usb, it shows up as a drive, and you drag the files over.

[@LiamKillen]

That is pretty easy actually!

[@LiamKillen]

But if i understand correctly, it still wouldn’t be possible to bounce “live”- as in play a live performance, with other instruments, perhaps and bounce out individual stems that way. You’re only able to bounce out stems/loops composed within the op1, is that right? This is the sort of set up i’m searching for now- like a spontaneous live sort of thing

[@outdatedgear5036]

@@LiamKillen Track 1 through track 4 show up as individual files on the OP-1 when you open it up on the PC. They are AIFF files. So if you drag and drop those into individual tracks inside the daw they will show up separately. So track 1(OP-1) to track 1(DAW). Whatever you record on the OP-1 will play inside the daw. You can't do this live or in conjunction with a daw.

[@YXNGNESS]

Do you get noise when using the usb to transfer audio etc? I get it and I don’t know how to avoid it so I don’t bleed to my tracks

[@LiamKillen]

This video’s for u! kzbin.info/www/bejne/fIHNf6KiZaugrZo

[@YXNGNESS]

@@LiamKillen thanks ima check it out now!

[@LiamKillen]

cheerio!

[@HamRadioCrashCourse]

Clicking my be solved by adding a beefy ferrite on the USB cable closest to the OP1 connector.

[@LiamKillen]

oh glad that worked!

[@SteveBakerProducerMusician]

Hallo! So USB audio is only in mono for me. I'm connecting it via USB with Ableton Live and have selected it as the output / input. I'm now monitoring on headphones via the OP-1 headphone socket and it's only in mono. When I add reverb as the master effect, it's a stereo effect so the headphone socket obviously is fine. Any clues on how to get stereo audio from DAW?? Thanks!

[@LiamKillen]

Everything coming from the op1 is mono- another reason why it’s mainly used as a sketch machine and not a track finisher.

[@hellohogo]

Hey where did you get the wonderful knobs for your op-1?

[@LiamKillen]

3d waves!

[@hellohogo]

@@LiamKillen thanks!!

[@IamJetson]

Can’t you put the op-1 in usb mode and drag out the 4 separate stems?

[@LiamKillen]

You can but it’s not the same facility as instruments I mentioned where you can live record a track right into your DAW potentially with some other instruments going at the same time

[@IamJetson]

@@LiamKillen that would best faster.

[@LiamKillen]

indeed

[@BryanRollinsTV]

the USB noise thing i just assumed was attenuation. I've run into that issue with USB in other devices.

[@LiamKillen]

There’s a solution within the op1 which i’ll be posting soon.

[@Randuski]

The new update is killer for my setup. So I use an iPad for arranging and such, especially when I'm travelling. I remember the last trip I went on, I made loops on the op1, then used the USB cable to connect to a battery bank, that has an sd card reader built in. Save the op1 loops to the sd, then use the sd to transfer files to the iPad, or use WiFi to transfer from the bank to the iPad. Now I can plug the op1 into my iPad and record into an app. Done. Easy. Fugg yea.

[@LiamKillen]

Major improvement!

[@elarielo]

If I'm not mistaken, the OP-Z has always used audio over USB with separate tracks, so it may be possible with a future update.

[@LiamKillen]

I hope they do it!!

[@paulrabara1246]

Attenuator? Would that stop the crackling?

[@LiamKillen]

It may!

[@User-wq9ri]

Are there any 3rd party hardcopy user manuals available to buy?

[@LiamKillen]

Not that I’m aware of

[@crieverytim]

Any reason to NOT do the update? Can it be undone?

[@LiamKillen]

I would say there’s no reason NOT to do it- it really opens things up

[@ckrug32]

I'm curious about your process of sampling from the internet (let's say, KZbin). Is there a way to sample KZbin via OP-1 without a DAW? Or do I still need to record the audio from KZbin into my DAW and then route the audio to the OP-1?

[@ckrug32]

Actually I got it! I set my computer's system preferences > sound settings (Mac OS) to have the OP-1 as the Output device. That's it!

[@LiamKillen]

Awesome there ya go!

[@LiamKillen]

Good stuffffff

[@federicomenjurje]

If I understand your question right, you can just use the headphones output.

[@LiamKillen]

🤔🤔🤔

[@SteveBakerProducerMusician]

Nice one! Gonna update now!

[@LiamKillen]

Awesome Steve! Cheers

[@blindscribe1679]

You mentioned crackling from connected sources when sampling, I wonder if using a ferrite core on the transfer cable would knock out the noise?

[@LiamKillen]

I’ve left a link in the description about solutions!

[@blindscribe1679]

@@LiamKillen Do’h. Makes mental note to read the description. Props for the follow up video with a solution!

[@LiamKillen]

Cheers!

[@joshjosh3627]

Having a noob problem... using Ableton, have all sound going out to the OP-1, and I want to play a synth on OP1 along to what I have so far in my DAW, but when I record, all the audio is doubled up. Is there a way that I can listen to what I have in DAW, while recording from OP1 back into the DAW, without recording everything going out??

[@LiamKillen]

That’s a good question, with audio i think you might have to be recording

[@yoyobaa100]

I’m having the clicking issues as well when trying to record an external synth :(

[@LiamKillen]

There’s a solution that i’ll be posting when i can- hit shift and com and set usb to not charge it should fix it

[@cheapd3lirio]

That work around never worked for me. I did alot of research and found using a noise isolator filter on the output completely cleaned the sound. www.amazon.com/BESIGN-Ground-Isolator-Stereo-System/dp/B06XQYN77L/ref=asc_df_B06XQYN77L/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=198076596450&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=1105182832676274945&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=t&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9010107&hvtargid=pla-350233567378&psc=1

[@LiamKillen]

Yes there will be a follow up on this!

[@GreenHoleSun]

Thank you very much for your upload. A question: is there any way to export tracks from the OP-1 to a DAW as midi files (not audio)?

[@LiamKillen]

Thank you for watching.! Not that I’m aware of

[@GreenHoleSun]

@@LiamKillen maybe I found a workaround, which is not exactly a solution but a sort of. This is my finding: if you export the tracks as audio clips, in ableton live (which is my DAW of choice), you can select each audio track and then right click on them. From the menu you can select "convert to midi" with different options. I haven't tried it yet, hope it works because the OP-1 can be an excellent portable musical sketchbook... but if you can't export your ideas at home as midi I think it is a major issue!

[@MikeHudsontek]

Does this let you record directly into the DAW using the OP-1 mic and fx?

[@LiamKillen]

Yes! Although I’ve never tried with both of those at the same time

[@TheOriginSoundtrack]

Is there a way to mute the keyboard synth track but not the tape track when using op-1 as a midi controller as well as audio through usb? I’ve found that I sometimes want to add eg a midi VST track and play that along without triggering the synth or drum tracks.

[@LiamKillen]

Anyone?

[@crieverytim]

Whoa. Isn't there another unofficial update? AS12 or something alphanumeric.

[@LiamKillen]

From TE? Not that i’m aware of this one came out like 2 weeks ago.

[@thestatpow5]

I have a bunch of analog gear that I don't use due to how unproductive it is to use. I'm wondering, will the OP-1 let me control a synth through midi and record it into the op-1 without the use of a daw?

[@LiamKillen]

I haven’t done much midi control with the op-1 but you can see record into it

[@leanderlumen1868]

Another issue I have: After firmware update OP1 doesn't recognize MIDI in (via USB MIDI Host), so I had do downgrade to 242 sadly.

[@LiamKillen]

oh that’s a weird one

[@emilyseegmiller4006]

What mode should the OP-1 be in on the com button for two way sync?

[@LiamKillen]

I'm not sure i've never tried a 2 way sync with the OP-1!

[@kadreanurista-goss1521]

I have an ipad and i like to use garageband. Have been thinking about getting the op-1 and pairing it euth garageband. But i havent really found anything that explains well how to hook them up together unlike other daws. Would anyone mind telling me this is possible and if so how? Just dont want to drop the cash just to find out its not possible, thanks!

[@LiamKillen]

Hmm I’m not too familiar with that hook up

[@kadreanurista-goss1521]

@@LiamKillen i appreciate the response so quickly! I just found your channel today and have been enjoying it!

[@Jerewalch]

Have u tried to disable the USB charging? It normally solves the noise issue. Another option is a ground loop isolator!

[@LiamKillen]

Yeah disabling works but it defeats the purpose of the update- that cable needs to be clean!

[@cheapd3lirio]

this one worked for me. www.amazon.com/BESIGN-Ground-Isolator-Stereo-System/dp/B06XQYN77L/ref=asc_df_B06XQYN77L/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=198076596450&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=1105182832676274945&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=t&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9010107&hvtargid=pla-350233567378&psc=1

[@stephenfurlong7955]

Great, informative video as always - my goto channel for anything Teenage Engineering! Quick question, where did you get the op-1 stand. Looks cool! 😎

[@LiamKillen]

I left his etsy link in comments + description! ❤️

[@stephenfurlong7955]

@@LiamKillen Many thanks Liam, appreciated. Keep up the great work buddy. 👍

[@LiamKillen]

Always and also thx for being here ❤️

[@carlosheredia7186]

Has anyone had issues with the Ableton Script to control de Control Surface? I love the new update and to use it as an audio in. but sometimes I like to go back and use it with the Ableton integration and use to to control the DAW. It doesn't seem to work anymore...

[@zozol108]

what is this stand? great vid btw

[@LiamKillen]

Thanks! Got the stand from (at)3dvintagefinds on Insta! 🎈

[@LukeWallaceMusic]

Epic Vid dude. Thanks for this! Question; crackling has been solved via your other video (woot) but still having issues with tracking audio via the op1 mic directly into logic. I can't even get a signal when the mic is armed and monitoring in logic. When I try to track to tape first, the crackling is crazy loud (with the usb plugged in). Have you had success tracking directly to logic via the OP1 mic? Thanks homie

[@LiamKillen]

This issue was solved for me through method in follow up crackling video. Hmm…i’m not sure man!

[@LiamKillen]

It could be the OP1 at that point, i’m not sure

[@laurencejazzperry6086]

Oh look, this guy's OP1 mic still works! I 'member...

[@LiamKillen]

Oh it works swimmingly

[@sonicultura]

Try audiobus or similar with eventide or similar and send sound thru your ipad... ;)

[@LiamKillen]

There’s another solution! shift + com -> set usb to not charge

[@LiamKillen]

i’ll be making a follow up video

[@sonicultura]

@@LiamKillen well you need a ground loop isolator that’s for sure… ;)

[@LiamKillen]

Not sure that’s totally necessary but you might be right

[@sonicultura]

@@LiamKillen off course I am right or I wouldn’t tell you… Boooing! :) I like the humor in your videos! Good job man!

[@willclifford5579]

Anyone using the OP1 with Reason Studios? I can't figure out how to easily get the OP1 set as the audio input with headphones/Macbook as the output. I'm using a workaround of creating an aggregate audio device, but it's not a very smooth process. Any tips are appreciated!

[@LiamKillen]

Does it work properly just through your desktop?

[@willclifford5579]

@@LiamKillen Yes, the OP1 seems to be functioning as expected if I use a tool like Audacity for input/output. The OP1 shows up as a device in Reason just fine and when I don't have it plugged in, I have no issues using audio through the Macbooks input/output. However, unlike Ableton, when Reason detects an audio device that can serve as both an input and output, it doesn't give you the option to choose separate devices for each. The best solution I've found online has been to use an aggregate device, but it's sort of an annoying process - www.reddit.com/r/reasoners/comments/42c28i/is_it_possible_to_select_a_different_output/.

[@LiamKillen]

Ahh ok yeah that’s a nuisance

[@Lobstertrapprr]

for me i was able to negate the crackling / feedback to a good enough extent to mix it out later by messing with the gain level on my interface and and OP1 until it was at a decent level.

[@LiamKillen]

So you weren’t using the op1 as an interface at that point right?

[@LiamKillen]

The crackling comes from the USB cable, when you’re using the op1 as an audio interface

[@coolquentin]

Could be that the op-1 is charging while being an audio interface? Have (could you) try to disable charging while connected by usb (I think there’s an option for that). Great vid, thanks ❤️

[@LiamKillen]

Is there!? I’ll take a look into this. If we find the solution I will def be making a video about it.

[@alexanderkudymov5330]

@@LiamKillen you just need to turn off the charging via usb to get rid of that cracking. To do that press shift + com than press 4 to chose opt tab and turn the blue knob left until you see red cross. Hope this helps

[@chaisephoebus]

Definitely want to get one forsure now haha

[@LiamKillen]

I feel u

[@tracksuit6698]

I’m running my gretsch through my Boss GT-1000 straight into the OP1 and using the stock usb, no cracklings on my end

[@LiamKillen]

usb is plugged into your computer?

[@Aboutsomeother]

0:58 I thought this was a record scratch 😅

[@LiamKillen]

might as well be lollll

[@teddybearasaurus]

Did you get a new camera? This video looks 👍🏽

[@LiamKillen]

I got a new one a cpl months back- just learning how to use it lol

[@chilp9759]

Does anyone know if the process of recording audio from Logic Pro (as seen here) to the OP-1 via USB cable syncs to the tape speed of the OP-1? This method definitely seems more efficient than the old .aiff file import method. Definitely saves time by cutting out the unnecessary audio formatting procedures. Any info appreciated! Thanks.

[@LiamKillen]

I think you’d have to tempo sync/change logic tempo after the fact if that’s what u mean

[@galactictapes]

Hey I heard the crackling… hey HEY heeeeeeeyyyyyy

[@LiamKillen]

lolollllll

[@MarcellsWorldJjr]

I thought the crackling was just me

[@LiamKillen]

No! It’s fixable (most likely)

[@spooky_mane]

"Minimal Setup".. you mean like affordable, right? RIGHT?!

[@LiamKillen]

Depends on who u ask! 😅

[@Sashashka]

TE actually made a video about the noise problem but it’s unlisted in one of their playlists. Here it is: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jYW8aKepa5uZipY :)

[@LiamKillen]

Yes I found it after the fact! And will be doing a follow up as well

[@sodiumlights]

Don't update if you you are an OG OPLAB user!

[@LiamKillen]

are those better? I have an OPLAB and it's not reliable.

[@VTGuilmonBeyblader]

Great info... Totally bummed you had to drop in a crude little mysogynistic quip in there. Wow. Women own the op1 too, dude.

[@LiamKillen]

say what? I’m not following. Can you give me a time stamp of the moment you have a problem with? Thanks.