Onegin and Tatyana scene

Onegin and Tatyana scene from Onegin (1999)

[@astridlindgren2858]

When I was a child, I have learned Tatyana's monologue by heart at school in Russian literature and teacher's name was Alla Petrovna. In addition I never forget those times

[@user-rx4vn2pw6m]

We also learned letters to Onegin and Tatyana at school)) my teacher’a name was Irina Yakovlevna. She moved to Israel and died there. RIP best teacher 🙏

[@astridlindgren2858]

@@user-rx4vn2pw6m where are you from ?

[@user-rx4vn2pw6m]

@@astridlindgren2858 I am from Baku, Azerbaijan

[@jelena7440]

Same here, greetings from Serbia.

[@MorroccoSurrogate]

Now that is tastefully done. Much classier than a text message.

[@KristiKrunch]

He sees her as someone younger and immature, and at this time of his life he feels as if he has already experienced enough love stories and romances in his life.

[@norse_cat]

He’s so handsome in this movie and she’s beautiful. I wish they’d had one kiss though! I love stories where the girl gets rejected and then gets “revenge” ultimately.

[@annemondi]

Onegin got his karma! He rejected Tatiana, later she rejected him. I love Tatiana, her courage and dignity.

[@EmilyGloeggler7984]

There is no such thing as karma. He was honest with her until he succumbed to the temptation to return to her.

[@LL-fn2jt]

Tatiana had courage and dignity? Where? She was whinging and miserable (and I cannot stand the way Liv Taylor portrays her as the takes it way too far and I find her just annoying the whole movie, she is just dull and boring and miserable and whinging), and in the end did not refuse Onegin out of courage or noblesse or real love for her husband, but because these were the days of Imperial Russia, marriage was bound by God and divorce was absolutely unthinkable, you were married till death parts you and that was it. She is doing nothing more than obeying that; plus giving her husband the necessary basic decent loyalty perhaps. Whether that is enough instead of real closessness and deep love is for every man and woman to answer for themselves and it's where the practical pragmatics will never feel the same as the romantics.

[@jelena7440]

​@@LL-fn2jt It wasn't just Russia that felt that way about the divorce, it was every other European country too, Italy leading the way. The thing is that Onjegin wants Tatjana to be his mistress, not his wife. He still doesn't want her as a wife. She cannot go against herself, it's her own nature she obeys not social norms. What would she gain if she gave in to Onjegin? She would be his mistress for a while until he grew tired of her. And that's all he offers to her. It would serve his ego. In a way she loves her husband, she respects him, she's grateful for him making her a princess by marriage, giving her stability and providing for her, safety etc.

[@debrajenkins2598]

@@LL-fn2jt He went through his litany of what love would be, including boredom and infidelity and she asked if that was his prophecy for her. Then he tried to make it true later and she remembered it. That is why she refused. She said, no that curse will be for you and not me.

[@LL-fn2jt]

Most people misunderstand him. He was honest with her. It's him who was the romantic, scared of marriage routine and boredom, which is in reality what most marriages become with time and he knew. Plus, he was not in love with her at the beginning and acted in accordance with his feelings. He was not in love with her, that is not a sin and does not make him a bad man. What did you want him to do, to be "nice" and be with her out of pity or obligation? (he had no obligation towards her).

[@amandamorgan2802]

I agree.Now that I see this scene.He was just being honest with her.And he at least was not mean or cruel to her as I have suffered more than once from indifferent men.Some men enjoy to play games and blow hot and cold.To mock women who show interest.He did not.

[@jelena7440]

When we were in school the interpretation of Eugene Onnegin was that Pushkin tried to show two Russias trough these characters. Tatiana, beautiful and cold, imperial Russia, honorable, with morals and Onegin, new Russia that is absorbing everything from the West, from fashion to speaking French instead of Russian. And he tried to show what will happen to Russia if it behaves like Onegin.

[@LL-fn2jt]

​@@jelena7440 Dear Jelena, what you wrote is interesting, I take it you are Russian and therefore have studied Pushin in your literature lessons thoroughly. However, may I ask a fundamental question - is what you wrote that you have been tought actually something that Pushkin said or wrote or explained himself, that this is what he meant?? Or is is just something that was a political spin at school that teachers said that this is what Pushkin meant with Pushkin being long dead to be able to object? As that is fundamental. If of course Pushkin himself said it then it makes it unquestionable truth, but if he did not and somebody just said it then I don't buy it. To me Onegin is a love story, and even though like all great novels it is multidimentional and there is a lot beneath the surface, to me this sounds a bit off - especially since I have been tought that Pushkin himself was superbly educated, spoke many western languages (French including); and that the exposure of Russia to French influences brought I think a lot of beautiful things to Russia so I don't see how speaking French should be seen as negative in Russia - it was also my understanding that Russia always valued education.

[@jelena7440]

@@LL-fn2jt Dear L L, I apologise for the late reply. I am not Russian, but Serbian, and we had books called Interpretations of classical literature so that we would understand them better. This was twenty years ago. Ofcourse politics always get in a way that's for sure. But the main theme is that Pushkin created a character wich is in literature called a sufficient, superficial, superfluous man, the one who is bored with everything, loses interest really fast, and has no essence. That's why Tatjana turns him down after she got married, he offeres her to be his mistress not his wife, and it's only for the thrill.

[@kapple654]

absolutely this scene as it is written in the screenplay is mild in that he treats her with absolute respect, honesty and candour as if she were another man - or even his sister and no lesser than him. in the book the story is a little more convoluted.

[@maraisayeva4884]

Красавица Лив Тайлер очень подходит к роли Татьяны, а Файнс великолепный Онегин. Я помню, что этот фильм Ральф Файнс снял это фильм к 200- летию Пушкина, он восторгался всегла русской литературой. 🫠

[@user-ky5kl9eb4f]

А мы восторгаемся его работой в этом фильме.

[@ilb473]

И Лина Хиди была прекрасна в роли Ольги

[@user-hh9ed1qc2u]

​@@ilb473 хорошо бы её ещё покрасили в блондинку для роли Ольги. Как Серсея она очень органична в блонде

[@natashkk]

I like the book very much. Pushkin is incredible!! I recommend it very vividly!

[@tubeyou89119]

I love this part/scene which pretty much sums up what their lives/futures lead. He was frank and honest with her, but he is too arrogant or insecure to accept a pure love as he knows the responsibilities/burden coming with such love. He maybe also did not want to hurt her knowing himself.... He takes an easy way out here, short-term, but in the end when he is older and weaker or truer to himself, he misses such love, but everything is too late... (Just my personal view.) Life/love is fair, no hard work, no reward.

[@debrajenkins2598]

She was right, and so was I.

[@zdenkasun3803]

I admired your letter - first moment he threw it into the flames... No comment.

[@norse_cat]

Truly though, I wonder if he would’ve felt the same way if she wasn’t unobtainable and not noble like she said. He likes the challenge and Tatiana here is no challenge.

[@davidpro5623]

Красивая Татьяна❤

[@LizKS48]

"You curse yourself". What a prophecy.

[@EmilyGloeggler7984]

ElizabethAnn625 Not really. That’s a society belief. He chose and she chose wrongly. She loved the wrong person. She eventually ended up with her husband. The tragedy is she didn’t love him as he did her. That’s Tatyana’s curse. Tatyana should have remained single but she didn’t want to. At least she later learned her lesson, “My husband is upstairs and I will be faithful to him. You must never come back.”

[@Aurelia2147]

@@thedyslexicwebdev1654 I agree! Even though she never loved her husband as she loved Onegin she was very fond of him and he treated her with love and respect. Onegin never deserved her. I'm sure in the end she had many happy years with her husband. Happy years that Onegin could've had with her had he not acted so immaturely

[@EmilyGloeggler7984]

@@thedyslexicwebdev1654 The thing is she wasn’t in a bad ending. Few women and men realize that all they need is God and from reading the book, Tatyana had that inner realization and strength. In the end, she chose to marry her husband. Hopefully, she learned to love him.

[@CarolDancer]

@@Aurelia2147 I totally agree. He is so callous and he pays for that in the end.

[@adrianavargova]

I saw this film today - I think Liv did great job. She was excellent!

[@Jefrma]

one of my favourite roles by RF! Thx for adding it here!

[@debrajenkins2598]

Agreed!

[@GabrielaRiddle]

Ralph fiennes is so handsome!!!!

[@Lile79Nia]

her personage are pefect in this film-briliant

[@EmilyGloeggler7984]

He did her a favor

[@CarolDancer]

He did but he didn't mean to. He was being egotistical but it turned out to be good she got rid of him.

[@EmilyGloeggler7984]

@@CarolDancer Indeed, they both got rid of each other. It was for the best.

[@tracee78lynn]

some men don't know anything

[@rj4102]

This guy is brutal. His words are much more hurtful than just “ I’m not interested”.

[@amandamorgan2802]

Somehow I do not think so.Other men are much more brutal.

[@ssansu]

He was honest

[@ladymelde]

Oh, I've been in her shoes before. :(

[@Serary]

Me too

[@phoenixalbastru3706]

Me too! Oh it hurts so much being rejected by the one you love!

[@lovemusicmusa]

Same.

[@GabrielaRiddle]

I'm sorry but Ralph is so Handsome and Liv is too cute, they are just beautiful in their ways.. we can't compare limon with chocolate they both taste very well, don't you think my little dear? :) RALPH IS VERY HANDSOME

[@DINGDONG-yf2xp]

I wrote an anonymous love letter to my colleague. At some point I revealed that I wrote it but not much happened unfortunately

[@lysjanvier]

i wish i;d read/watched this before i got my heart broken...

[@Lile79Nia]

:) he was afraid to lost his freedom, he thought that family is a obligation..... but its perfect when you doing your obligation with love ! he lost his life :(

[@EmilyGloeggler7984]

He didn’t. He did her a favor and she found a better man.

[@CarolDancer]

@@EmilyGloeggler7984 Yes, she found a better man but he also ruined his life.

[@jelena7440]

@@CarolDancer not really, he just wants her because he can't have her. If she had stayed spinster still living in the country he wouldn't even think of her. But she became royalty by marriage and he can't stand it.

[@EmilyGloeggler7984]

@@CarolDancer He didn't ruin his life. He has yet to learn how to live his life without material and lustful ways. I learned that life lesson when I reluctantly dumped the "love of my life" who also loved me and we both respected and wanted to marry each other. I decided that I didn't have to settle and I was going to enjoy my freedom. Did I date multiple guys in that interim? No. I'm not that kind of person and didn't want to, at the end of the day. So I enjoyed going out and living my life, in spite of the deep heart ache and longing. Was I tempted to go back to the ex? Yes, but I'm glad I was reminded that I didn't have to - even if I wanted to. So I made the choice to move on without him. Interestingly, when I was still single, the ex tried to connect with me - trying to woo me back - but by that point, I was determined not to go back to him ever again and I told him that he needed to move on and either be on his own or find someone else because I was never going to marry or be with him romantically again. It did hurt, really bad, but in the end it was freeing. The ex took it hard too, but he was gracious enough to finally let me close the book and cut the chord and set me free. Some time later, to my surprise, God lead me to meet another man, who was not even my ideal and who I wasn't looking to marry and I wasn't even attracted or wanted to be with him, and yet eleven years of spending time together and dating, I now am married to the other man - who is now my husband, closest friend, and father of my children. So ironically, I've done both what Tatyana and Onegin have done and I survived. Sadly, I don't think Onegin ever DID learn as I did - I'd like to think maybe he did in the fictional verse, but otherwise, Onegin didn't learn to let go and keep moving on. He made the mistake to go back. The only time you EVER go back is IF you are already married and separated but NOT divorced. Otherwise, if you are divorced, even then, you sadly do not go back. Divorce and remarriage when YOU are an adulterer or adulteress are extremely damaging and violent. I don't recommend personally either divorce or remarriage. In that case, you are better off unmarried. Otherwise, if you are married, you learn to love your spouse - as Tatyana hopefully did and which I'm learning to do, with my husband.

[@CarolDancer]

@@EmilyGloeggler7984 As Pushkin portrayed him he is totally dishonest opportunist. By time he tries to come back to Tatyana he is older and used up and he goes off in bitterness.

[@adrianavargova]

Intelligent answer. Merry Christmas!

[@daphnecui4595]

I want to hate him but damn he's just too beautiful.

[@user-rx4vn2pw6m]

Read the book in original. Tatyana was teenager when she met Onegin. She was 13 years old. He was 25 years old. Pushkin writes in poem: Initially Onegin though about romance with Tatyana. But her age and innocence stopped him from such decision. He was completely right, don’t you?

[@debrajenkins2598]

@@user-rx4vn2pw6m In that case absolutely.

[@TheBritomart]

Yeah, I am back there now

[@hsjuanito]

@LizKS48 instinctive anticipation of the power of destiny... without being a fatalist, we cannot but acknowledge that there is such a thing.

[@Lile79Nia]

i love,LOVE! perfect film--why he say no,whyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[@itimdesigner]

Nice

[@chopin7tristesse]

what's not lost seem not worth keeping. what's not formed seem not worth building.

[@EmilyGloeggler7984]

sun hong Rhie And in the end, move on from mutual longing love. Its better than marrying and knowing you will divorce in the end.

[@knollik]

@CENOZOICMAN he wasnt fool he know a lot about world and women.

[@lamsalgado]

onegin = bastard tatiana = lovely Fiennes = great actor! Liv = great Tatiana!

[@GabrielaRiddle]

oh hunnie:(

[@leontud]

Sometimes words are more fatal than weapons........ and we hate ourselves every minute for the rest of our lives.....Que faire?

[@derzeser]

Liv Tyler is the true epitome of beauty!

[@nadamijak9338]

narcissist 101....

[@marinacitronova8604]

I would not be able to speak at all.

[@ADyingFaith]

I love the music in this film. I need to find out what music it is. Right the way through it plays beautiful music.

[@Amelia4144]

And music in the opera by Tchaikovsky ! ... So beautiful and so touching ...

[@eugenievanzyl]

The music in the film is different from the music in the opera, right?

[@ADyingFaith]

@@eugenievanzyl Yes

[@LieslIncorporated]

The tragic thing is, that at this point Onegin might be right about how their marriage would turn out (due to his own expectations, etc.). And once he has learned and changed, it's too late.

[@Amelia4144]

Just like in our lives.

[@EmilyGloeggler7984]

He was right. Tatyana was wrong.

[@GabrielaRiddle]

@adrianavargova :) Have a Happy New Year too ^^

[@Kukolka42]

he says yes eventually, but at that point she no longer wants him!

[@wendyramirez3350]

She never stopped wanting him, she is married till she dies.

[@EmilyGloeggler7984]

@@wendyramirez3350 I feel bad for her husband. I'd like to hope that, although she has no interest to be with him and doesn't love him and doesn't want to be with him, she learns to love her husband. In the end, Tatyana chose to stay. That's to be commended.

[@imobile108]

At the end, she still loved him, but she decided to keep her marriage vow. She accepted a marriage without love, because her mother pushed and she thought without him any man is the same: no love. It is sad, deeply, for both him and her.

[@user-tz8om5vt7h]

МИРОВЫЕ ШЕДЕВРЫ ПРИНАДЛЕЖАТ ВСЕМ. АНГЛИЧАНЕ ТУТ ВСЕХ ОБОГНАЛИ.

[@vintagegirl7937]

At least he is honest, but he regrets not getting with a good woman because he experienced so many bad ones.

[@EmilyGloeggler7984]

He had the right idea to reject her. He did her a favor and she found a better man. Sadly, she doesn’t appreciate her husband.

[@CarolDancer]

@@EmilyGloeggler7984 He gave up the only chance he had at love. But sometimes we don't realize what we are rejecting until it is too late.

[@SimGirl00]

@kyravamp me too

[@carolau1340]

Sorry, I know it's not in the book... but I've got a sneaky suspicion that Onegin's character, with all his years of squandering his wealth and 'loose living' might have caught something like syphilis? He can't possibly tell Tatiana that... so he tries to let her down 'gently'... ("You do not return my love?"... "I CANNOT") to save her health and life... but destroys her poor heart, in the process. He sods off on a long trip abroad (similar to Winston Churchill's father, who searched the world, for a cure?). Then towards the end of the movie, Onegin confesses to Tatiana, "My time is short..." Dunno - just a theory!

[@philyhai]

unfortunately, that is not the reason he turned her down. he simply was not into her as a woman, she was only 14 year old at the time. she wasn't the one who can make him settle down from a bachelor's life.

[@ZyablikOfficialPage]

@@philyhai She wasn't 14! Who told you that?

[@ninecatsmagee8384]

He was a fop.

[@debrajenkins2598]

@@philyhai I think in those times they could have been betrothed with a two-year engagement. But he was right that at the age of 14 what you think you want may not be what you want forever.

[@user-ql1fu4ej8i]

​@@ZyablikOfficialPageчитайте внимательнее! Там есть прямое указание на возраст! ...Уничтожать предрассужденья Которых не было, и нет У девочки в 13 лет!...

[@CrispyClaire]

@ladymelde Yep,me too...

[@Lile79Nia]

why he say no-why? :-(

[@QueVidaEs]

Lena Headey Forever

[@Amelia4144]

From my point of view, the most selfish of all men. Amelia, from Argentina.

[@charliewhisky111]

it was the folly that made him so attractive that destroyed him.

[@EmilyGloeggler7984]

charliewhisky111 It was his choice. He needs to move on and she did move on from mutual love.

[@GabrielaRiddle]

Sorry if I disrespected you:) It wasn't my intention. See, we both have different ways to think and we are different persons we can just be ourselves and comment whatever we want without disrespecting each other...Don't you think?? :)

[@GabrielaRiddle]

1.-I don't eat lemon combined with chocolate, I eat it by separate and for me they both taste very well ;) 2.-Well, I respect your opinion but Liv and Ralph are beautiful in their own ways. 3.-ok. you are not my little dear:) but I was trying to be friendly I'M NOT IMPERTINENT, I WAS TRYING TO BE JUST FRIENDLY BUT IS SEEMS THAT YOU ARE SOMEONE WHO DOES NOT RESPECT OTHER OPINIONS :)

[@juanelendilhaim3128]

FOR SOME REASON,EVERYBODY KNOWS OUR SWEET LIV AS LOVELY LIV TYLER, AND DONT COMPARE HER WITH " FOREVER ALONE FIENNES ONEGIN...HE WAS AN OPPORTUNNIST, COWARD AND GAY WHOS REJECTO LIV TATYANA , AND DONT TAKE IN REAL SENSE THE NOBLES AND GREATS FEELINGS OF AN PURE HEART, THAT FREELY OFFERT TO HIM...

[@EmilyGloeggler7984]

You sound like a bitter immature person. It was his choice to reject. Anyone who rejects did then a favor

[@DeTutnloench]

@LizKS48 and she was right..

[@EmilyGloeggler7984]

DeTutnloench She was wrong here. She was right later. Her husband was her true love, the tragedy is she loved Onegin more. I feel more sorry for her husband. He stayed. Onegin chose to go. He should not have come back.

[@virusdapimp]

not nice to talk about a dead guy =/ What if I talked about your great great grandpa and talked shit about him without knowing him and furthermore knowing him personaly =/

[@adrianavargova]

Unfortunately... he is not. Liv is too beautiful to him.

[@adrianavargova]

1. I don't eat lemon with chocolate :) 2. Mr. Fiennes is not handsome for me. 3. I am not "your little dear". STOP BEING IMPERTINENT!

[@billmyers991]

He could've at least offered Tatiana a condensed milk sandwich, apparently they're very good with salt

[@juanelendilhaim3128]

ONEGIN MUST BE A BIG GAY FUCKIN AT MOMENT OF GET OFF A WONDER FUL WOMAN AS LIKE LIV TATIANA. HE WAS REALLY BLIND , IN THE MOVIE, SO IT WAS ALL TIME, SO HE DOESN T GET ANYOTHER END THAT BE FOREVER ALONE, A JA JA JA---SHANG TSUNG WINS.

[@alexandervoronov6659]

Какой то дачный блуд 20 века.. Увы, нет Пушкина и его духа

[@allonsgatz4684]

Does anyone know the name of the song near the end of this scene?

[@cinesecinese]

It looks like this music was composed by Magnus Fiennes himself. On the Internet you can find a list of works that composer Magnus Fiennes used when working on the soundtrack of the film Onegin. I'm sorry, it's been eight years :)