How to Prove that Muhammad was REALLY a Prophet

Did the Prophet Muhammad copy and plagiarise the Bible? Did he write the Quran himself? Did he lay claim to Prophethood for fame, power and status?
In the modern world of aggressive scepticism, doubt and hyper-evangelicals hell-bent on disproving Islam - how can we truly prove the Prophet Muhammad was in fact a Prophet.
In this video we were joined with Shaykh Mohammed Elshinawy, an Imam, researcher and Author of the Book, “The Final Prophet, Proof of the Prophethood of Prophet Muhammad”. We asked him all the difficult questions and this is how he responded.
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
01:14 Did the Prophet Muhammad perform Miracles?
03:46 Why was he the last Messenger sent?
05:00 How do we know he wasn't seeking worldly fame and status?
09:56 Did he write the Quran himself?
13:44 Did Muhammad copy the Bible?
16:30 Why did the Prophet wage battles if he was a Prophet?
21:40 Does the Prophet have the ability to repair the world's problems?
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[@Your_Comfort_Zone]

"Meaning and Purpose outdo Luxury and Comfort any day of the week", this quote is so beautiful MashaAllah!

[@lojaynelomda157]

26:03 Subhan’Allah very strong message

[@user-ih5be4hl1t]

Yeah that's the thing,if we look the people who lives their life luxury ,we don't know what their mental condition,all human needs an big purpose in life , otherwise they lose their character

[@MJawadSial]

Mashallah ❤ The eloquence of his speech is so satisfying to listen to...

[@TS-zd2ud]

*what a mistake in the Qur'an!* Allah himself testifies that he has a son and he is the son as Christians understand it! Only the Koran writer was too ignorant to know what Son of God means! Allah's word which created everything is Allah himself too! *The Word Allahs which created everything is the Son of God according to Christianity!*

[@TS-zd2ud]

Son of God does not mean that God has a child in Christianity! *what a mistake in the Qur'an!* Son of God are 2 titles one referring to the Word of God and one referring to creation (humans, angels, demons)

[@ismailatiamiyuabdulsalam9496]

May Allah bless our sheikh.

[@user-my6tu3yw5g]

Ameen

[@idriss831]

Amin

[@MO9ALA7]

The One God who revealed the Injeel/Gospel to Jesus pbuh is the One who revealed the Quran to Prophet Muhammad pbuh, thats why there are many similarities between the two, but today we dont have the Gospel of Jesus, we only have gospels according to anonymous authors like Matthew, Mark, Luke and John!

[@kyleo8953]

Imagine we have Quran with words of Abu Bakar, Umar, Uthman, Ali. That's Gospel nowadays

[@user-qf2nh3wy1i]

😂😂😂, so it is no more Angel Gabriel. U c, Islam can never stand, only lies is all Islam is. There is not even a single truth in Islam.

[@jagdishmadgaonkar]

The Qur'an is according to the recitation of hafs who was accused by the Muslim as being a thief and a liar his hadiths are rejected.

[@namedclaiming821]

@@jagdishmadgaonkarthere’s other recitations and what you said about him is no true unless there’s evidence

[@user-tg1tc9fn6p]

INDEED QURAN WAS COPPIED FROM THORA AND BIBLE

[@HamzaTheLion16]

Prophet Muhammad ﷺ is a true Prophet💯

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[@Md_sadiq_Md]

May Allah Bless our brothers and sisters of ummah with Jannah Aameen Summa Aameen

[@Invisible-muslim]

Couldn’t have explained it better jzk Allah kair

[@KalmaEHaq531]

LA NABI ABAADI. ANA KHATAM NABIYEEN MUHAMMAD SAWW ♥️🇵🇰 LABBAIK YA RASOOL ALLAH SAWW

[@abdullhabuhamdi3645]

It will be great If there's an arabic sub on all video's. Thank you

[@hadithoftheday3858]

O people, your Lord is one and your father Adam is one. There is no favor of an Arab over a foreigner, nor a foreigner over an Arab, and neither white skin over black skin, nor black skin over white skin, except by righteousness. Have I not delivered the message? Aḥmad 22978

[@coldcoffeeandcake-7511]

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[@faazil5009]

Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "Whoever says, 'Subhan Allah wa bihamdihi,' one hundred times a day, will be forgiven all his sins even if they were as much as the foam of the sea. Sahih al-Bukhari 6405 The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "There are two expressions which are very easy for the tongue to say, but they are very heavy in the balance and are very dear to The Beneficent (Allah), and they are, 'Subhan Allah Al- `Azim and 'Subhan Allah wa bihamdihi. Sahih al-Bukhari 6406 May Allah guide us to remember him at all times.

[@updallabari9043]

BarakAllah

[@md.tarekH]

The fact that Muhammad saw was illiterate prophet, its enough for me to believe in islam which mentioned in the quran.. If anyone say oh okey,what is the prove beside historical, so i would say that if prophet Muhammad saw was not illiterate prophet then people at that time would say,oh i see you to learn from that person/place.if thats true then people would leave islam immediately but now the muslim population is 2 billion Alhamdulillah.

[@jagdishmadgaonkar]

Yes that's why the sun sets in hot spring of murky water. Mary the mother of eesa is the sister of Aaron. The sperm of the man comes from his backbone and the sperm of the woman comes from her nipples. The sun goes around the Earth. Allah comes to the lowest heaven every 3 rd part since the Earth is flat. The hail comes from the mountains in heaven. Allah forgot what he created first the star's or the mountains. For more contradictions in the Qur'an watch Ahmad Exmuslim or Cristian Prince on their channel and if you feel you are correct then get them busted.

[@Say-No-2-Islam]

People left Islam at that time. You need to learn history bro. Then in Medina Muhammad started using sword to spread his cult.

[@BDTHORGAMiNG]

Little Knowledge Is Dengarous​@@Say-No-2-Islam

[@Say-No-2-Islam]

@@BDTHORGAMiNG I have far better knowledge than you. Who killed Ali and when? Can you explain?

[@BOOMBOOM6DoubleO]

I feel so guilty and haram for watching this I suffer from very bad waswasa regarding doubts of Islam may Allah forgive me. One week I’m doing good I pray and believe and one week my brain comes up with these haram doubts regarding Islam. I just want this to stop Astagfirullah

[@Indianman536]

Be with your friends, never miss fard salah and always keep away for major sins . Don't be alone .

[@BOOMBOOM6DoubleO]

@@Indianman536 I don’t have any friends brother I’m always at home due to not having friends

[@Indianman536]

@@BOOMBOOM6DoubleO I use to have many friends, they were not so religious but I use to hang around with them . I never used to miss my salah and they got inspired and they also started praying but they never left sinning, I used to keep away from sinning and I became kind of odd person for them so they started avoiding me . Slowly I became isolated and started keeping myself alone most of the time and started watching KZbin videos and there are so many videos , some are anti Islamic propaganda some are about sects against other sects. I started getting waswasa , I still get waswasa . I realised that it's better to be less knowledgeable than having lots of knowledge which leads you to get waswasa . For years I used to know little but use to practice the basic tenents of Deen although I use to sin also by being with sinners , I mean going to clubs n Al , although not having alcohol etc. but still I use to be at those places but the moment I distanced myself I became lonely and here the Satan started playing tricks with me . Overthinking grabbed me . Now I realised half baked knowledge from social media is not so good . Not everyone is same , for some people too much knowledge and information backfires. It's better to look at yourself and analyse your own personality. If you feel your brain has anxiety OCD type of feelings then it's better to not get involved in deeper matters and follow simple day to day Islamic tenets and divert your mind somewhere else and Allah knows the best.

[@ImZacklove]

That means your brain is doing what it is supposed to do, working and thinking critically. Interesting that you mention friends, listen to what Yeshua (Jesus) said about his disciples... You are my friends if you do what I command. I no longer call you servants, because a servant does not know his master’s business. Instead, I have called you friends, for everything that I learned from my Father I have made known to you John 15:14 I know it's difficult but here is my advice for making friends as an adult, if you have a little spare money, register for a short course about something you enjoy like a hobby and you'll run into people with the same interests. Alternatively try and find some free courses first before spending money, there are sites online that have functions that are free. Do you remember how you made friends as a kid? do the same when you go out just have conversation with people, it's easier if you're in environments that you find interesting because you can discuss those and the conversation will be much easier. Another great place to make a friend is the gym, don't go to big gyms, go to local ones and soon enough you'll start meeting regulars. You can also make friends at work don't be embarrassed, go ahead and say these words when you feel you get along with someone easily " This was a great conversation, I'm trying to make new friends, do you mind if I get your number or social" something like that. I advice phone number and especially whatsapp coz you can send something interesting. Then next time invite them to a drink (whatever you drink soda, tea, wine etc) or a function that has to do with your shared interest. You are a human being, you have thoughts and the more you ignore them, the bigger they can get. If the thoughts keep recurring no matter what, I encourage you to learn more.God loves you and wants you to learn the truth. Do not be fooled, Do not be afraid, do not suppress your intelligence, it is a gift from God. Or do you somehow not believe your ability to critically analyse came from God? It is God who created everything. Be kind to yourself and accept your goodness and your flaws, then seek guidance from God. If I was you, I would listen to what criticisms Christianity and Judaism has of Islam and of Muhammad and then I would seek listen to the responses from Islam, if you don't think Islam has the right answers, then you have your answers. I personally think Islam is not the truth from the research I'm finding but this journey is yours I pray to God that he shows you the way and opens your life to making friends Amen. As you read in Christianity God wants to be our friend, Yeshua is your friend, and he wants you to think and reason with him he encourages you to bring your doubts and questions to him because he can answer them all, he says, Isaiah 1:18 Come now, and let us reason together. I encourage you to come and explore who this Yeshua who wants to be your friend is according to the gospel, have an open mind. One last thing, I know for sure, if you go to a church, and just talk to people, even without saying you are Muslim, you will make friends so quickly that it will surprise you 😅 I don't know what it is but most of us like making new friends. If you have any questions, feel free to ask.

[@abdul-rahmandauda7224]

Sheik Mohammed Elshinawy hitting right on the nail

[@user-fk8yk3rx1h]

اللهم صل على سيدنا محمد وعلى آله وصحبه أجمعين وسلم يالجمال الاسلام ❤❤❤ محتاحين الحزء الثاني بشدة نرجوكم❤🎉🎉🎉

[@Hiddensoull]

Ma sha Allah love your beard bro ❤

[@ihab505]

بسم الله ماشاء الله

[@louisax5404]

Salams, Are you able to make a video on book recommendations? As a revert it’s sometimes hard to find books that stick to Islamic facts etc it can be confusing with how broad the variety is jzk🤲🏾

[@DailyVelli]

Sunan an-Nasa'i 3255 It was narrated from 'Aishah that the Messenger of Allah married her when she was six years old, and consummated the marriage with her when she was nine. أَخْبَرَنَا إِسْحَاقُ بْنُ إِبْرَاهِيمَ، قَالَ أَنْبَأَنَا أَبُو مُعَاوِيَةَ، قَالَ حَدَّثَنَا هِشَامُ بْنُ عُرْوَةَ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ، عَنْ عَائِشَةَ، أَنَّ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم تَزَوَّجَهَا وَهِيَ بِنْتُ سِتٍّ وَبَنَى بِهَا وَهِيَ بِنْتُ تِسْعٍ ‏.‏ Grade: Sahih

[@DailyVelli]

Sahih Muslim 1403 a Jabir reported that Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) saw a woman, and so he came to his wife, Zainab, as she was tanning a leather and had sexual intercourse with her. He then went to his Companions and told them: The woman advances and retires in the shape of a devil, so when one of you sees a woman, he should come to his wife, for that will repel what he feels in his heart. حَدَّثَنَا عَمْرُو بْنُ عَلِيٍّ، حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ الأَعْلَى، حَدَّثَنَا هِشَامُ بْنُ أَبِي عَبْدِ اللَّهِ، عَنْ أَبِي الزُّبَيْرِ، عَنْ جَابِرٍ، أَنَّ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم رَأَى امْرَأَةً فَأَتَى امْرَأَتَهُ زَيْنَبَ وَهْىَ تَمْعَسُ مَنِيئَةً لَهَا فَقَضَى حَاجَتَهُ ثُمَّ خَرَجَ إِلَى أَصْحَابِهِ فَقَالَ ‏ "‏ إِنَّ الْمَرْأَةَ تُقْبِلُ فِي صُورَةِ شَيْطَانٍ وَتُدْبِرُ فِي صُورَةِ شَيْطَانٍ فَإِذَا أَبْصَرَ أَحَدُكُمُ امْرَأَةً فَلْيَأْتِ أَهْلَهُ فَإِنَّ ذَلِكَ يَرُدُّ مَا فِي نَفْسِهِ ‏"‏ ‏.‏

[@DailyVelli]

Surah At-Tawbah - verse 29 قَاتِلُواْ الَّذِينَ لاَ يُؤْمِنُونَ بِاللّهِ وَلاَ بِالْيَوْمِ الآخِرِ وَلاَ يُحَرِّمُونَ مَا حَرَّمَ اللّهُ وَرَسُولُهُ وَلاَ يَدِينُونَ دِينَ الْحَقِّ مِنَ الَّذِينَ أُوتُواْ الْكِتَابَ حَتَّى يُعْطُواْ الْجِزْيَةَ عَن يَدٍ وَهُمْ صَاغِرُونَ Fight those people of the Book who do not believe in God and the Last Day, who do not prohibit what God and His Apostle have forbidden, nor accept divine law, until all of them pay protective tax in submission.

[@DailyVelli]

This Is What Disgusting QURAN Says About Other Religions Al-Bayyinah 98:6 إِنَّ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا مِنْ أَهْلِ الْكِتَابِ وَالْمُشْرِكِينَ فِي نَارِ جَهَنَّمَ خَالِدِينَ فِيهَا ۚ أُولَٰئِكَ هُمْ شَرُّ الْبَرِيَّةِ Surely the unbelievers among the people of the Book and the idolaters, will abide in the fire of Hell. They are the worst of creatures.

[@lightofislam4023]

Books of Hamza tzorrsis

[@abcsfjajk]

Beautiful words allahuma barek lakum!!

[@yousufahmed5158]

Mashallah❤❤

[@thejunkyarddog732]

I believe in karamat And that there’s still people allah contacts

[@CLIPZ071]

Allah knows best

[@NaqiRaza]

A masterclass on how to speak for half an hour without actually saying anything

[@User_47536]

Christian preachers in the comment section :🙏✝️😵‍💫😡

[@Say-No-2-Islam]

Funny.. You are a comic. People who can think won't fall for circular reasoning.

[@habiba419]

❤❤❤

[@Humble.Servant]

In the light of the following verse, muslims should decide whether any prophet is true/false. Jeremiah 14:14 *Then 👉the LORD said unto me, 👉The prophets prophesy lies in my name: 👉I sent them not, 👉neither have I commanded them, 👉neither spake unto them: 👉they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought, 👉and the deceit of their heart.* Matthew 11:13 *👉For ALL the prophets and 👉the law prophesied until John*

[@livemama3658]

1st comment

[@donaldduck3481]

Unable to fathom how a flawed God could have created this world who didn't know whom to choose and how to choose to bring in universality to every creature he only created. He made revisions after revisions of prophets so to solve universality problem but not sure how to make it himself. He who knows everything doesn't know this basic thing of how to communicate with his own creations and he needs a book to tell stories as if it costs more for him to have a direct channel connected to his office where he can employ divine humans(or any creature) and get work done fast in more civilized way; leading to no confusion for anyone on this planet prospering a harmonious life. But ain't God want that? Certainly not! If all people who follow him or those who don't follow him everyone is facing same consequences of Climate change, inflation and whole lot of things (exceptions Rich people - specially designed humans by the God). But no NON-LOGICAL brain will question God, why is that after doing good deeds one has to suffer and there comes their answer. Don't question God or you'll be burnt in hell. A comedic relief in the end...! And more funny thing is miracles only happened in that age when stupid outnumbered the wise ones in great numbers(or wise ones must have had same fate as of Sir Galileo Galilei - Never question with logic or you'll be perished), so it is undeniably true that miracles won't happen again in this time now as wise have outnumbered stupids of this era and of that era combined.

[@Say-No-2-Islam]

Just look at this video and it's answers. Can you see any wise ones? These people see "miracles" everyday, sad - isn't it?

[@donaldduck3481]

@@Say-No-2-Islam Unfortunate & yes ! sad...

[@bmgmohamed4289]

Mashaallah

[@anujraghuwanshi3802]

I,m a hindu and i,m going to accept islam if anyone (muslim) give me answer of my question. Im confused help me to find answers.

[@coldcoffeeandcake-7511]

Hi. What is your question?

[@anujraghuwanshi3802]

@@coldcoffeeandcake-7511 Many people ask me about MUMMAHAD (peace be upon him) age when he is married and what is that girl age whom he married?

[@coldcoffeeandcake-7511]

@@anujraghuwanshi3802 don't worry, brother/sister. This is a question many Muslims even want to understand .it is good that you are asking questions as Islam is the religion of learning and asking questions so that we are sure in our faith and are not following blindly . Most people focus on the age of Aisha (may Allah bless her) who was the wife of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). Please see the video from Sheikh Omar Suleiman on the Age of Aisha . It is a KZbin video that is detailed and explains this topic very clearly. All your doubts will be finished, God willing. Once you find the answer to this question, please do not delay becoming a Muslim as the devil wants to delay you so that you die before accepting the truth. It is very easy to accept Islam, you only have to say and believe the Shahada (which is the testimony of faith). And finally , once you accept Islam and become a new Muslim, please remember that you don't have to be the perfect Muslim to be a Muslim. We should learn and implement our religion bit by bit, so that we don't become overwhelmed. Much love and respect. If you need any help or guidance, don't hesitate to let me know.

[@DailyVelli]

​@@anujraghuwanshi3802Sunan an-Nasa'i 3255 It was narrated from 'Aishah that the Messenger of Allah married her when she was six years old, and consummated the marriage with her when she was nine. أَخْبَرَنَا إِسْحَاقُ بْنُ إِبْرَاهِيمَ، قَالَ أَنْبَأَنَا أَبُو مُعَاوِيَةَ، قَالَ حَدَّثَنَا هِشَامُ بْنُ عُرْوَةَ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ، عَنْ عَائِشَةَ، أَنَّ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم تَزَوَّجَهَا وَهِيَ بِنْتُ سِتٍّ وَبَنَى بِهَا وَهِيَ بِنْتُ تِسْعٍ ‏.‏ Grade: Sahih

[@DailyVelli]

​@@anujraghuwanshi3802Sahih Muslim 1403 a Jabir reported that Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) saw a woman, and so he came to his wife, Zainab, as she was tanning a leather and had sexual intercourse with her. He then went to his Companions and told them: The woman advances and retires in the shape of a devil, so when one of you sees a woman, he should come to his wife, for that will repel what he feels in his heart. حَدَّثَنَا عَمْرُو بْنُ عَلِيٍّ، حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ الأَعْلَى، حَدَّثَنَا هِشَامُ بْنُ أَبِي عَبْدِ اللَّهِ، عَنْ أَبِي الزُّبَيْرِ، عَنْ جَابِرٍ، أَنَّ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم رَأَى امْرَأَةً فَأَتَى امْرَأَتَهُ زَيْنَبَ وَهْىَ تَمْعَسُ مَنِيئَةً لَهَا فَقَضَى حَاجَتَهُ ثُمَّ خَرَجَ إِلَى أَصْحَابِهِ فَقَالَ ‏ "‏ إِنَّ الْمَرْأَةَ تُقْبِلُ فِي صُورَةِ شَيْطَانٍ وَتُدْبِرُ فِي صُورَةِ شَيْطَانٍ فَإِذَا أَبْصَرَ أَحَدُكُمُ امْرَأَةً فَلْيَأْتِ أَهْلَهُ فَإِنَّ ذَلِكَ يَرُدُّ مَا فِي نَفْسِهِ ‏"‏ ‏.‏

[@GuessMyName234]

Of coarse he excised the Qur'an came from someone. All his life can't of been made up

[@jagdishmadgaonkar]

Any smart abdool over here who can take on the challenge of getting Ahmad Exmusli, Adam Seeker or Cristian Prince on their channel should do it without any delay.

[@SCP30851]

😂 from the bible lma0 This is for real one of stupiest claims of the disbelievers. They claim = they have to proof lol

[@alikayani2931]

Jazakallah

[@livingwithfibromyalgiaandc8880]

I just hope everyone here researched everything said in this video for accuracy. I saw comments that forgot that Muhammad (7th century) is just as ancient as Matthw, Mark, Luke, John, Peter, etc. (1st century). As I continue to study both the Bible and the Quran, Quran is really bits and pieces of the bible. It is normal to meditate on the things that we read, for better understand. I truly believe that Muhammad believe he had a revelation. But I do not believe that he actually did have one. It what said fact check is not necessary. If that is true, then why did God (Allah) assure facts and evidence be found about his works, his purpose. Hear what is be said, then Dig Deep. Search for yourself for the truth. The only way I would accept Muhammad as a prophet of God (Allah) is if he had this revelation before the 1st century prophets.

[@ShayaanKhan]

I understand that according to you, Muhammad ﷺ believed he had a revelation but didn't actually have one. This idea of Muhammad ﷺ being "deluded" is a common argument, and it has been addressed quite a lot. Let me share an incident from the life of the Prophet ﷺ with you. In 632 AD, Muhammad's 2-year-old son, Ibrahim, died, and on the same day, a solar eclipse occurred. As a result of that, people began to talk about how on the day of the Prophet's son's death, even the sun had eclipsed. Addressing these speculations, Muhammad ﷺ proclaimed that, "The sun and the moon do not eclipse because of the death or life (birth) of someone. When you see the eclipse, pray and invoke Allah". [Reference - Sahih al-Bukhari, hadith number 1043] If Muhammad ﷺ were truly deluded, he would have surely believed that the solar eclipse occurred due to his son's death. However, he did not believe that. This, along with many other (indirect) narrations about the life of the Prophet ﷺ, points us to the fact that he wasn't deluded.

[@YazeedR618]

Who is Mathew, mark, John, Luke, and Peter? Can you even prove they were real people? Why are they credible sources of information? Why would anyone from the 21 century believe what they said unless they are ignorant? Also, there are no original manuscripts from the 1st century, just copies of copies of copies... That's why your Bible has so many contradictions. Even your own scholars agree that different versions have different additions and even entirely different accounts of events on some occasions depending on your version. It's like Wikipedia, anyone can just add information into it and that's why Wikipedia is also not considered a reliable source of information. You are the one who needs to dig deep, or you will find yourself burning in an eternal flame whichs fuel is mankind. If you pray for truth and guidance, your vail might be lifted. May God guide you on the path of truth. Amin

[@user-uk4mn5bu4j]

Mustafa Kemal Ataturk was a really great leader and a very good 🇹🇷💪❤️

[@DailyVelli]

This Is What Disgusting QURAN Says About Other Religions Al-Bayyinah 98:6 إِنَّ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا مِنْ أَهْلِ الْكِتَابِ وَالْمُشْرِكِينَ فِي نَارِ جَهَنَّمَ خَالِدِينَ فِيهَا ۚ أُولَٰئِكَ هُمْ شَرُّ الْبَرِيَّةِ Surely the unbelievers among the people of the Book and the idolaters, will abide in the fire of Hell. They are the worst of creatures.

[@ExcellentViibes]

Because they disobey God and fail to fulfill their purpose in life.

[@DailyVelli]

@@Truthspeakercentral 😂😂😂😂 Islam In, Brains Out

[@DailyVelli]

@@Truthspeakercentral Surah At-Tawbah - verse 29 قَاتِلُواْ الَّذِينَ لاَ يُؤْمِنُونَ بِاللّهِ وَلاَ بِالْيَوْمِ الآخِرِ وَلاَ يُحَرِّمُونَ مَا حَرَّمَ اللّهُ وَرَسُولُهُ وَلاَ يَدِينُونَ دِينَ الْحَقِّ مِنَ الَّذِينَ أُوتُواْ الْكِتَابَ حَتَّى يُعْطُواْ الْجِزْيَةَ عَن يَدٍ وَهُمْ صَاغِرُونَ Fight those people of the Book who do not believe in God and the Last Day, who do not prohibit what God and His Apostle have forbidden, nor accept divine law, until all of them pay protective tax in submission. Surah At Tawbah (The Repentance) Ayat 123 يٰۤـاَيُّهَا الَّذِيۡنَ اٰمَنُوۡا قَاتِلُوا الَّذِيۡنَ يَلُوۡنَكُمۡ مِّنَ الۡكُفَّارِ وَلۡيَجِدُوۡا فِيۡكُمۡ غِلۡظَةً​  ؕ وَاعۡلَمُوۡاۤ اَنَّ اللّٰهَ مَعَ الۡمُتَّقِيۡنَ‏ O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him).

[@DailyVelli]

@@Truthspeakercentral Allah Is MohamMUD's Imaginary Friend, Created By Him To Fulfill His DISGUSTING Sexual Urges. Islam Is Nothing But A Curse On This Planet. Listening To Scholars, Reading Quran Makes You Muslims, But Reading Arabic Quran With Actual Translation From Saudi Arabia Itself Makes EX-MUSLIM

[@rencefernan6588]

self proclaim

[@salmanishoaib25]

Brother My request to make a video About these KZbin channel Apostate prophet And CIAR They make too much misinformation Against our prophet and Quran

[@saeed34644]

They have been debunked by many people just search up Apsostate prophet debunked, he has been debunked many times reply to me

[@DailyVelli]

Sunan an-Nasa'i 3255 It was narrated from 'Aishah that the Messenger of Allah married her when she was six years old, and consummated the marriage with her when she was nine. أَخْبَرَنَا إِسْحَاقُ بْنُ إِبْرَاهِيمَ، قَالَ أَنْبَأَنَا أَبُو مُعَاوِيَةَ، قَالَ حَدَّثَنَا هِشَامُ بْنُ عُرْوَةَ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ، عَنْ عَائِشَةَ، أَنَّ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم تَزَوَّجَهَا وَهِيَ بِنْتُ سِتٍّ وَبَنَى بِهَا وَهِيَ بِنْتُ تِسْعٍ ‏.‏ Grade: Sahih

[@DailyVelli]

Sahih Muslim 1403 a Jabir reported that Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) saw a woman, and so he came to his wife, Zainab, as she was tanning a leather and had sexual intercourse with her. He then went to his Companions and told them: The woman advances and retires in the shape of a devil, so when one of you sees a woman, he should come to his wife, for that will repel what he feels in his heart. حَدَّثَنَا عَمْرُو بْنُ عَلِيٍّ، حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ الأَعْلَى، حَدَّثَنَا هِشَامُ بْنُ أَبِي عَبْدِ اللَّهِ، عَنْ أَبِي الزُّبَيْرِ، عَنْ جَابِرٍ، أَنَّ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم رَأَى امْرَأَةً فَأَتَى امْرَأَتَهُ زَيْنَبَ وَهْىَ تَمْعَسُ مَنِيئَةً لَهَا فَقَضَى حَاجَتَهُ ثُمَّ خَرَجَ إِلَى أَصْحَابِهِ فَقَالَ ‏ "‏ إِنَّ الْمَرْأَةَ تُقْبِلُ فِي صُورَةِ شَيْطَانٍ وَتُدْبِرُ فِي صُورَةِ شَيْطَانٍ فَإِذَا أَبْصَرَ أَحَدُكُمُ امْرَأَةً فَلْيَأْتِ أَهْلَهُ فَإِنَّ ذَلِكَ يَرُدُّ مَا فِي نَفْسِهِ ‏"‏ ‏.‏

[@DailyVelli]

Surah At-Tawbah - verse 29 قَاتِلُواْ الَّذِينَ لاَ يُؤْمِنُونَ بِاللّهِ وَلاَ بِالْيَوْمِ الآخِرِ وَلاَ يُحَرِّمُونَ مَا حَرَّمَ اللّهُ وَرَسُولُهُ وَلاَ يَدِينُونَ دِينَ الْحَقِّ مِنَ الَّذِينَ أُوتُواْ الْكِتَابَ حَتَّى يُعْطُواْ الْجِزْيَةَ عَن يَدٍ وَهُمْ صَاغِرُونَ Fight those people of the Book who do not believe in God and the Last Day, who do not prohibit what God and His Apostle have forbidden, nor accept divine law, until all of them pay protective tax in submission.

[@DailyVelli]

Open Your Own Quran And Cross Check It Me. Closed Mind

[@jagdishmadgaonkar]

Any smart abdool who dare to debate Cristian Prince and Ahmad Exmuslim on their channel

[@pensiunan8186]

Your CP is a coward when Farid ask him to do open debate with moderator. Farid even gonna pay his own ticket himself, but your CP reject even tho Farid doesn't mind if he use mask. I almost got trick by CP and good thing I do a comparision just which one make sense? What CP said or the opposite? After long research, CP is a liar, manipulative, cheater in online debate, etc. Even your David Wood, etc get reck many time and I see it.

[@leebardien9129]

I'm still waiting for the prophecies 😂

[@jaybhavani8416]

Please counter the vedios of KZbin Channels- ExMuslim Spartacus Pakistani Mulhid Ghalib Kamal Zafer Heretic Sahil,India Sameer Such wala Kohram Adam seeker Apostate Imam Amina Sardar Dr.Fauzia Rauf Subuhi Khan Praveen Uppadhyaya

[@AbdikaremIbrahim]

❤S A W S A W S A W S A W S A W❤

[@y56830]

Request to the host to learn the basic adab when taking the name of prophet Muhammad. It is NOT OK to take his name without saying SALLALLAHU 'ALAIHI WA SALLAM. You dont call your father my name. How about the prophet then??

[@MightyWinz]

But the quran which i read aloud doesnt say that.

[@y56830]

@@MightyWinz Brother. Please do not act like you are knowledgeable and forget about claiming to have read and understood the whole Qur-aan. Ask a local scholar and he will teach you the basics. Inshallah ta'ala

[@MightyWinz]

@@y56830 ...

[@AlphaMaverick1111]

ﷺ

[@ryanhamilton9709]

This Man is not told #1 fact or provided #1 even example of a fact to back up his claim I mean this is insanity!! I am going to show this to everyone I know and get there feed back

[@Jufatto]

0:17 "pedophile, warmonger, misogynist"

[@zeuspantodynamos6760]

Here is a challenge to One Path Staff. The Muhammad copied from ancient fables and here are my evidence. The idea that the Earth and the heavens were connected or formed a unified system is an ancient concept that can be traced back to various cultures and early cosmological beliefs. It is challenging to pinpoint a single individual or civilization that first suggested this idea, as similar concepts often emerged independently in different parts of the world. In ancient Greek philosophy, for example, some early thinkers proposed a connection between the Earth and the heavens. Anaximander, a pre-Socratic philosopher, suggested that the Earth was a cylindrical shape at the center of the cosmos. Anaximenes, another pre-Socratic philosopher, proposed that the Earth was a flat disc floating on air. In other cultures, such as ancient China and India, there were also cosmological ideas that connected the Earth to the heavens, often expressed through religious or mythological beliefs. Overall, the notion that the Earth and the heavens were interconnected is a complex and ancient concept that has roots in various early philosophical and cultural traditions. The Sumerians, who lived in ancient Mesopotamia, one of the world's earliest civilizations, had a creation myth known as the "Enuma Elish." The Enuma Elish is a Babylonian epic that describes the creation of the world, the gods, and the rise of the chief god Marduk to supremacy. While the Enuma Elish is a Babylonian composition, the cultural and religious influences of the Sumerians played a significant role in shaping the myth. The story of creation in Sumerians Enuma Elish begins with the primordial waters. Quran: - “He is the One Who created the heavens and the earth in six Days1-and His Throne was upon the waters” Quran 11:7 After Marduk's victory, he decides to create the world from Tiamat's body. He splits her carcass into two parts, forming the heavens and the earth. Marduk then organizes the cosmos, appoints the gods to their respective roles, and creates humanity to serve the gods. The belief that everything originated from water is associated with the ancient Greek philosopher Thales. Thales of Miletus, who lived around 624-546 BCE, was one of the Seven Sages of Greece and is often considered one of the first philosophers in Western history. Quran: - “Do the disbelievers not realize that the heavens and earth were ˹once˺ one mass then We split them apart? And We created from water every living thing. Will they not then believe?” Quran 21:30 In Genesis, the first chapter states that God created the heavens and the earth and the water in the beginning. God said, "Let there be a vault between the waters to separate water from water" (Genesis 1:6). Quran: - “He merges the two bodies of ˹fresh and salt˺ water, yet between them is a barrier they never cross.” Quran 55- 18 and 19 Therefore when the Arabs heard Muhammad saying his Quran they replied: “Whenever Our revelations are recited to them, they challenge ˹you˺, “We have already heard ˹the recitation˺. If we wanted, we could have easily produced something similar. This ˹Quran˺ is nothing but ancient fables!”

[@user-uk4mn5bu4j]

THE TURKISH OTTOMAN EMPIRE RULED ALL THE ARAB WORLD 🇹🇷💪💪

[@yagambaramreddy5212]

This guy is failing to make his case. Mohammed thinks that Pharon is a name. It is not a name but a title.

[@LuckiLover123]

Ur prophet not real lil bro

[@najibth4759]

😂 i can hear the clash inside you my lil bro

[@zeuspantodynamos6760]

The Quran copied the ancient fables. The idea that the Earth and the heavens were connected or formed a unified system is an ancient concept that can be traced back to various cultures and early cosmological beliefs. It is challenging to pinpoint a single individual or civilization that first suggested this idea, as similar concepts often emerged independently in different parts of the world. In ancient Greek philosophy, for example, some early thinkers proposed a connection between the Earth and the heavens. Anaximander, a pre-Socratic philosopher, suggested that the Earth was a cylindrical shape at the center of the cosmos. Anaximenes, another pre-Socratic philosopher, proposed that the Earth was a flat disc floating on air. In other cultures, such as ancient China and India, there were also cosmological ideas that connected the Earth to the heavens, often expressed through religious or mythological beliefs. Overall, the notion that the Earth and the heavens were interconnected is a complex and ancient concept that has roots in various early philosophical and cultural traditions. The Sumerians, who lived in ancient Mesopotamia, one of the world's earliest civilizations, had a creation myth known as the "Enuma Elish." The Enuma Elish is a Babylonian epic that describes the creation of the world, the gods, and the rise of the chief god Marduk to supremacy. While the Enuma Elish is a Babylonian composition, the cultural and religious influences of the Sumerians played a significant role in shaping the myth. The Enuma Elish begins with the primordial waters and the mingling of two gods, Apsu (freshwater) and Tiamat (saltwater). From their union, other gods are born, creating a pantheon. However, the younger gods become noisy and disturb Apsu's peace. In response, Apsu decides to eliminate them, but the god Ea (Enki) learns of this plan and kills Apsu in self-defense. Following Apsu's death, Tiamat, enraged and grief-stricken, becomes the primary antagonist. She creates an army of monstrous creatures to avenge Apsu. The younger gods, now led by Marduk, confront Tiamat. Marduk defeats her in a great battle and establishes himself as the chief god. After Marduk's victory, he decides to create the world from Tiamat's body. He splits her carcass into two parts, forming the heavens and the earth. Marduk then organizes the cosmos, appoints the gods to their respective roles, and creates humanity to serve the gods. The Enuma Elish reflects the Mesopotamian worldview and political ideologies of the time, emphasizing the importance of the supremacy of the god Marduk, who was associated with the city of Babylon. This myth served a dual purpose: it explained the creation of the world and justified the political authority of Babylon and its chief deity. The belief that everything originated from water is associated with the ancient Greek philosopher Thales. Thales of Miletus, who lived around 624-546 BCE, was one of the Seven Sages of Greece and is often considered one of the first philosophers in Western history. Thales proposed that water was the fundamental substance from which all things emerged and to which they would ultimately return. His philosophical idea represents an early attempt to explain the underlying nature of the physical world through a single, universal element. Again in Genesis, the first chapter states that God created the heavens and the earth and the water in the beginning. God said, "Let there be a vault between the waters to separate water from water" (Genesis 1:6). All these ancient mythologies were echoed in the Quran: “Do the disbelievers not realize that the heavens and earth were ˹once˺ one mass then We split them apart? And We created from water every living thing. Will they not then believe?” Quran 21:30 “He is the One Who created the heavens and the earth in six Days1-and His Throne was upon the waters-in order to test which of you is best in deeds. And if you ˹O Prophet˺ say, “Surely you will ˹all˺ be raised up after death,” the disbelievers will certainly say, “That is nothing but pure magic!” Quran 11:7 “He merges the two bodies of ˹fresh and salt˺ water, yet between them is a barrier they never cross.” Quran 55- 18 and 19 Therefore when the Arabs heard Muhammad saying his Quran they replied: “Whenever Our revelations are recited to them, they challenge ˹you˺, “We have already heard ˹the recitation˺. If we wanted, we could have easily produced something similar. This ˹Quran˺ is nothing but ancient fables!”

[@anthonyesin7630]

Read the tafsirs. Several of the verses you used are out of context and can be manipulated to mean anything so it’s better to read them in context to see what they mean. Muhammad ﷺ was illiterate as well so him going around and reading ancient fables can be ruled out. But what if he heard it from people as he traversed the Arabian Peninsula? When the Prophet ﷺ received revelation, he entered a specific state of being witnessed by some of his companions and wives. He would sweat and go stiff, sometimes a buzzing sound would come from him. At one time, when the Prophet ﷺ was receiving revelation, his leg was on top of one of his companion’s legs. The Prophet ﷺ entered the revelation state and his body became extremely heavy, to the point the companion thought his leg was broken. There are other narrations from several people of the Prophet ﷺ receiving revelation. Epilepsy or any other mental disorder can be ruled out as the people at the time knew what those things were and made no mention of it. If Muhammad ﷺ “allegedly” collected these stories, why did he experience unreal states of revelation? Why would he go through the trouble of being persecuted for a decade straight when he was living a normal and wealthy life already?

[@Say-No-2-Islam]

@@anthonyesin7630 Bud, can you explain just one such thing in your Quran? Look at all tafsirs you want, but I need a proper answer. Surah Fussilat 9 through 12 - Earth was created, added sustenance to it and then Allah created "Seven Heavens" and the Sun and the Stars.. So, you Muslim folk believe Earth was created before the stars? Schizophrenia will do all that.. Just understand why Muhammad's scribe left Islam?

[@ankurpal6488]

ॐ नमः शिवाय ♾️🕉️

[@MIKEDIAMONDZ]

😂😂😂

[@AdamDylanMajor]

When a seal is gone, it frees what has been sealed... think about it! 😊

[@ghufrananaqvi9031]

The seal still remains, there is an Afterlife.

[@AdamDylanMajor]

@ghufrananaqvi9031 well then there are no prophets in afterlife then. But here they are + can you tell me how a seal of prophets a prophet? Is a seal of a letter a letter? People keep talking about afterlife, but what about before life?

[@ghufrananaqvi9031]

@@AdamDylanMajor There are Prophets even in the afterlife, Prophet Muhammad (P.B.U.H) met them during Israa and Miraaj. Prophet Muhammad (P.B.U.H) said: "My similitude in comparison with the prophets before me is that of a man who has built a house nicely and beautifully, except for a place of one brick in a corner. The people go about it and wonder at its beauty, but say: 'Would that this brick be put in its place!' So I am that brick, and I am the seal of the prophets" (fa’anā ’l-labinah, wa anā khātamu ’n-nabīyīn).

[@AdamDylanMajor]

@@ghufrananaqvi9031 the heavens are not the afterlife

[@MJawadSial]

​@@AdamDylanMajorcan you define afterlife? To me afterlife is When we will be woken up from our graves, we will be judged and then sent to either heaven or hell. So yes heavens is not the ONLY afterlife, there is hell as well

[@thebeautifulgift192]

Isha Maha Deva🙏

[@My_Cal]

The amount of blinded hearts in this world is scary. Im praying for every muslim's eyes be open in the name of our lord Jesus Christ🙂‍↕️

[@JamesRichardWiley]

Yahweh does not "send" representatives to mankind. Yahweh is always, already, present everywhere and in every cell of every living creature. Yahweh does not need help.

[@Say-No-2-Islam]

How to prove Muhammad was a Prophet? - Because he said so in the Quran What is Quran, how can you confirm it's authenticity? - Quran is revelation from GOD and Muhammad said so When people of Quraish asked him why he is not doing any miracles like other prophets, he said - Oh, I'm just a "messenger" A "Prophet" with no prophesies - FUNNY!

[@AdamDylanMajor]

If Allah doesn't respect the laws He put over nature, then what example is that to us?

[@yazgulam]

Trash talk

[@AdamDylanMajor]

@@yazgulam idolatry

[@yazgulam]

@@AdamDylanMajor trash talk

[@AdamDylanMajor]

@@yazgulam bot

[@ghufrananaqvi9031]

Yes, but He didn't bound those laws onto His ownself.

[@cookingwithphindile4525]

😮😮😮😮😮 Lord, open their eyes. May you visit them in the name of Jesus 🙏

[@sameersayyad9071]

Who is lord? Jesus or God

[@sa1sa1sa]

It is illogical to believe that he is last messenger sent by god . Be rational person

[@mackmani6945]

Such misguided people. He didn’t kill anyone. He defended his people from those who wanted them dead. On the day of resurrection, all of mankind including you disbelievers will run to every messenger from Adam to Jesus and ALL will reject interceding for you. The only one who will intercede for mankind will be Muhammad (pbuh) What kind of killer will want to save all of mankind? He has an honor with God that even Jesus was denied. Deny all you wish, but Islam will only continue to grow because its the truth and Christianity will continue to shrink.

[@mackmani6945]

Also, what did Jesus call God? Its sad that people forget who Muslims worship and the fact that Arabic and the language of Jesus (Aramaic) are sister languages who have the same word for God. All prophets worshipped one God. Muhammad was no liar and he was the last mercy to mankind sent after Jesus.

[@okthisisepic2928]

​@@mackmani6945The Bible is the best preserved ancient document with Plato and astrotle and many other ancient historical figures works having their earliest surving copies dated to around 1000 ad, with only at most a few dozen manuscripts. The bible has thousands of early copies and the new testaments earliest surving books can be dated to around 200 ad. However there are a huge number of variations in word choice that are different from one another in the manuscripts. This is due to natural translation and scribal error. However we can analyze all these copies to find the words that are in error. The basic truths remain the same even if we went and randomly deleted half of the scriptures in the 4 gospel accounts. If im not mistaken the kjv translates from Greek to english. Why were the disciples willing to suffer and die horribly, not for something they were told, but for something they literally saw. They knew if it was truth or not. A conspiracy to suffer right? If the gospels were fake why didn't the thousands of people that witnessed Jesus spread the memo that the gospels were actually fake? Do you lie, lust or sloth? Even if you are sometimes good you have failed the second commandment love your neighbor as yourself. For example by working hard you could become a doctor and save alot of improvised children from malnutrition if you give most of your money away. But you don't. So what? you say "sometimes I do good even in cases were it's not mutually benificial" and "the bibles definition of good is not what I belive". Indeed you follow your yourself instead of god making yourself your own god. What of the most important commandment? “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind" Instead of following him people reject thier creator who is not an indifferent God, but loves you so much to become a man and die for you and who also wants a relationship with you. If you sin in this life who says you would turn from your sin given more time? Can you pay hells price? Jesus came down, not as a worldly conquerer or king but as a generous teacher, yet he is the most influential man ever. All major religions try to incorporate jesus into thier own, both those that came before and after christ, as some sort of wise teacher or prophet(besides judism obviously) yet christs stance is "no one comes to the father but through me." All major religions preach a salvation where you save yourself yet christianity preaches that a loving God came to save you and he already paid the price for salvation. Please don't take my word for it. You have the ability to make choices and you can also choose to supress thought and to not seek the truth. A good source Is cold case christianity. According to my understanding, God is a God of love, creation and existence and sin is rejection of God, and leads to destruction, nothingness and emptyness.

[@yossif.5097]

This guy thinks he is the smartest human alive.

[@najibth4759]

؟

[@condorianonegdiffsgoku]

That's what you think about yourself.

[@sulaimankottani3597]

Jesus said I am the Way the Truth and the Life. No one will see the father except through me. Believe in Jesus Christ and receive eternal life.

[@major5maximus]

Bible came 600 years before Coran, its evidently a cheap copy.

[@saadshaikh4533]

Torah old testament came before it so should we say that jesus copied from torah? Use your brain dude.

[@digiedits8150]

@@saadshaikh4533that’s an anti-venom given to that guy ;)

[@noahmakofane5]

I can prove he was false. Look at the words Angel Gabriel said to all the prophets or people he visited before Mohammad, and look at what he said and did when he visited the nuthead in the cave and compare if that was Gabriel or not 😉

[@user-tg1tc9fn6p]

FINAL PROPHET ONLY FOR YOU MUSLIMS NOT FOR OTHERS WE JEWS AND CHRISTIANS DONT BELIEVE THAT MOHAMMAD AS PROPHET😮😮😮

[@donkealoha2439]

MUHAMMAD ANNOUNCED THAT EVERYONE WOULD BE DEAD IN A HUNDRED YEARS AND MADE FAILED LAST HOUR PROPHECIES: Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 3, Number 116: Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar: Once the Prophet led us in the 'Isha' prayer during the last days of his life and after finishing it (the prayer) (with Taslim) he said: "Do you realize (the importance of) this night? Nobody present on the surface of the earth tonight will be living after the completion of one hundred years from this night." ......................... Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 10, Number 539: Narrated Abdullah: "One night Allah's Apostle led us in the 'Isha' prayer and that is the one called Al-'Atma by the people. After the completion of the prayer, he faced us and said, ‘Do you know the importance of this night? Nobody present on the surface of the earth tonight will be living after one hundred years from this night.’" (See Hadith No. 575). .......... Sahih al-Bukhari 6511 Narrated `Aisha: Some rough bedouins used to visit the Prophet (ﷺ) and ask him, "When will the Hour be?" He would look at the youngest of all of them and say, "If this should live till he is very old, your Hour (the death of the people addressed) will take place." Hisham said that he meant (by the Hour), their death. ........ Sahih Muslim, Book 41, Number 7050: 'A'isha reported that when the desert Arabs came to Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) they asked about the Last Hour as to when that would come. And he looked towards the youngest amongst them and said: If he lives he would not grow very old that he would find your Last Hour coming to you he would see you dying. ........................ Sahih Muslim, Book 41, Number 7051: Anas reported that a person asked Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as to when the Last Hour would come. He had in his presence a young boy of the Ansar who was called Mahammad. Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: If this young boy lives, he may not grow very old till (he would see) the Last Hour coming to you. ........... Sahih Muslim, Book 41, Number 7052: Anas b. Malik reported that a person asked Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him): When would the Last Hour come? Thereupon Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) kept quiet for a while, then looked at a young boy in his presence belonging to the tribe of Azd Shanilwa and he said: If this boy lives he would not grow very old till the Last Hour would come to you. Anas said that this young boy was of our age during those days. ........................... Sahih Muslim, Book 41, Number 7053: Anas reported: A young boy of Mughira b. Shu'ba happened to pass by (the Holy Prophet) and he was of my age. Thereupon Allah's Apostle (may peace be apon him) said: If he lives long he would not grow very old till the Last Hour would come (to the old People of this generation)........ (Muhammad clearly said that the young boy wouldn't have grown very old before the Last Hour came upon the people. Now let us be generous and suppose that the young boy was ten and lived to be hundred and ten years old, implying that the Last Hour was to take place a hundred years after Muhammad made these statements. Yet, centuries have passed and the Last Hour still hasn't come upon us.)