ALIENS VS PREDATOR Timeline Explained

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FAQs ARE THE AVP MOVIES REALLY CANON TO THE ALIEN MOVIES? This is a question for a couple of reasons: 1) Prometheus and Alien: Covenant imply David created the Xenomorph, while AvP suggests Predators have been fighting them for thousands of years. 2) Guy Pearce plays Peter Weyland in Prometheus and Covenant, founder of Weyland Industries, while Lance Henriksen plays Charles Bishop Weyland, founder of Weyland Industries, in Alien vs Predator. You can make it all fit like I did in this timeline… Prometheus never explicitly states Peter founded the company, just that he runs it so you can imagine Charles founded it before a son or nephew named Peter eventually took over. As for the creation of the Xenomorph, Prometheus already threw a wrench in things thanks to that mural on the Engineer’s planet. It clearly shows a Xenomorph, meaning they pre-existed David’s work. Whether intentional by Ridley Scott or not, this opens the door to the idea that David, like AIs we have today, isn’t making anything new but just recycling things that already exist. So you can make Alien vs Predator fit the canon but… Is it REALLY canon? The answer is honestly… It’s kind of up to us. These franchises were made before the idea of a coherent cinematic universe was much of a thing. So, there wasn’t anyone at the helm ensuring Alien vs Predator, the Predator movies, and the Alien movies fit into a singular continuity. And in the world of fiction, when we talk about canon… We’re essentially talking about intent or what is in the imagination of creators with “authority” over a fictional world. When you talk about MCU canon, we’re talking about what's in Kevin Feige and his team’s minds. In their imaginations, what happened in the fictional world of the Marvel Cinematic Universe and what didn’t? When it comes to Alien and Predator, there hasn’t been a Kevin Feige that we know about… So whose imagination are we speculating on? It differs from filmmaker to filmmaker and executive to executive. On the latter, we can get some insight: Andrew EC Gaska is a writer who worked on some Alien RPG games and as a consultant on the franchises with 20th Century Fox. According to him, Fox views Alien, Predator, and Alien vs Predator as three unique franchises with their own separate continuities. At the same time, Fox showed a willingness in the past to take elements of the Alien continuity and bring them into the Predator world. For example, The Predator ends with that gift from the savior Predator and it turns out to be “The Predator Killer.” But originally, in that box, they were going to find a person. At one point it was planned to be Ellen Ripley and at another, they considered making it Newt… Though she’d be a grown woman. How could Ripley show up when she wouldn’t be born until nearly a century later? How could adult Newt show up when she died as a child in the future? Presumably there’d be some kind of time travel or alternate reality mechanics at play. The broader point is that without a particular plan or intent behind “canon”… The very idea of it is theoretical. And that’s how you should take this video. It's a theoretical timeline connecting the events of a bunch of movies… Some of which are very intentionally connected. And some of which… Could be. TLDR: There is no authority on what is or is not canon in these universes. I’m sure Ridley Scott would consider Alien wholly separate from Predator. At the same time, I’m sure some executives would disagree. Though, I have a feeling they’ll put more of a stake in the ground soon… Cinematic universes are all the rage. Romulus director Fede Alverez has expressed interest in another crossover and so has the President of Production at 20th Century Fox. Once it happens, I’m betting they’ll try to straighten out a more coherent canon. Or who knows, maybe they enjoy the flexibility that comes without a rigorous continuity. We’ll see! - WHY DON’T YOU CALL THEM YAUTJA? Another question you might have if you’ve explored some of the expanded Predator lore is… Why don’t I call them Yautja in this video? Well, it’s too hard to pronounce. No, that's not the real reason. In actuality, they never used the term “Yautja” in the movies. Some claim that the larger Predator says it in “The Predator” but in my opinion, the jury is out. It's hard to decipher exactly what he’s saying. Not to mention some fans even question whether or not that movie should be considered canon to begin with, especially since it redefines Predators from trophy to DNA collectors. Anyway, since this video is sticking only to canon defined by the movies, it didn’t feel right to borrow anything from the expanded lore including the Predators’ supposed “actual” name. Further, this timeline is generally written from the point of view of humanity and since they would have no way of knowing that name… At least in any of these movies, again, it felt wrong for me to use it in the narration. That may change in the future if I do an “expanded” edition bringing in more comics and other non-movie entries from the franchises. - WHY NO BLADE RUNNER? Another question you might have is… Why no Blade Runner? Well, the idea that Blade Runner and Alien could share a universe comes from two places: easter eggs and a comment by Ridley Scott. So, the easter eggs… 1) In Alien, Ripley’s escape pod shows a red “purge” screen and that’s the same screen shown inside the flying cars of Blade Runner. Now, if that’s more than just an easter egg and meant to be taken as true continuity… it would imply that the Nostromo is using technology that’s over a hundred years old. 2) The 20th anniversary Alien DVD from 1999 has an extra which gives bios for each character… And it mentions Dallas taking a paycheck from the Tyrell Corporation, the same corporation featured in Blade Runner. 3) In the UK SteelBook release of Prometheus, there are some transcribed audio logs from Weyland where he makes thinly veiled references to "a mentor and long-departed competitor" who "lived like a God on top of a pyramid overlooking a city of angels.” Clearly talking about Tyrell. 4) When you see some of Niander Wallace’s work in Blade Runner 2049, one of the figures looks kinda like an Engineer www.reddit.com/r/LV426/comments/9hd3ni/i_just_rewatched_blade_runner_2049_and_discovered/ Finally, here’s what Ridley Scott himself said, “There's almost like a connective tissue between all the stuff I went through on 'Alien' into the environment of the Nostromo and people living within close proximity to people who still have Earth-bound connections and here we have people on Earth, so almost this world could easily be the city that supports the crew that go out in Alien. So, in other words, when the crew of Alien come back in, they might go into this place and go into a bar off the street near where Deckard lives. That's how I thought about it." I’ve always thought it was cool to imagine Blade Runner and Alien in the same world. They kind of fit, the Alien franchise implies Earth isn't a place you want to go and your odds are better off-world. That definitely seems to be the way things are heading back in Blade Runner which takes place in 2019. But, when you’re talking broadly about a timeline and overall continuity… Again, it comes back to intent. Scott may have liked to imagine that Alien and Blade Runner share a world but ultimately, the rights are owned by two different companies. So, as you progress beyond the first entries in either series, that connection becomes more tenuous… The studios are unlikely to ever commission a true cross-over, a term that feels almost ridiculous to apply to masterpieces like Blade Runner and Alien. Though, they’ll allow easter eggs especially when it comes to extras outside the movies themselves. Also, though Scott imagines them in the same world, there’s no evidence that James Cameron, David Fincher, or any of the other filmmakers involved in the Alien franchise thought of it that way. So, as the franchises grow, they become less and less intentionally connected. It moves into the space of “theoretical”... Could they be connected? Sure, if you just take Blade Runner and Alien, there’s nothing inherently contradictory between them. But, when you add The Predator for example, it becomes more questionable… The Predator takes place in 2018 and Blade Runner takes place in 2019… This timeline falls apart if you say these stories share a universe and only take place a year apart. I.e., the world of “The Predator” looks nothing like the world of “Blade Runner”.... No industrialized hellscape, no flying cars, etc. Not to mention, Blade Runner and Alien both have TV shows coming out soon which are dangerously close on the timeline… Blade Runner 2099 takes place in (obviously) 2099, while Alien: Erath takes place in 2120. Is there anyone who is ensuring that their visions of the future match up? Predator: Badlands is also coming out soon and that takes place at some point in the future, which will put it beyond Blade Runner’s vision of 2019 and possibly encroach on 2049. Look, you could make it all fit if you squint hard enough… Like I did with Charles and Peter Weyland. But it's all a question of how hard are you willing to squint. For me, fitting Blade Runner, especially with The Predator, was a couple millimeters too far.

[@cheekster777]

That is EPIC Gil!

[@OneTakeVids]

My longest comment ever! 😂

[@cheekster777]

@ - Take a bow my man! 👏🏻

[@AppleFrogTomatoFace]

i think at this point, some other studio just make a new universe having all three, but copyright reason just have different names and slightly different design and make a connective universe.

[@danielfaw4652]

Even A.I. had a hard time explaining this timeline to me. Great job, OneTake! You did the hard work!

[@OneTakeVids]

Thank you! 🙏

[@robertosobreiro6212]

Love these videos to fall asleep And I know I'm not the only one 😂

[@StPBiKE]

Sleepover? 🎉 fall asleep as a group to it

[@robertosobreiro6212]

@@StPBiKE brother that's sus ash

[@StPBiKE]

@robertosobreiro6212 only if you make it so

[@Iqbal-gu7uh]

No unique experiences😂

[@averyhinks1799]

The question isn’t whether AVP is in the Alien universe, or even whether Blade Runner is in the Alien universe… It’s whether the Death Race movies are in the Alien universe.

[@OneTakeVids]

Now you’re talking my language!

[@petcucristi8002]

Verry lovelly effort!..perfect!

[@OneTakeVids]

Thank you! 🙏

[@farihaislam7087]

I appreciate your hard work. Thank you❤

[@ChestiiPrinAmerica]

Never watched the movies. For some reason, listening for this timeline is super interesting.

[@Oninzuka_Badjula]

Love the "mother fu***r" clips you kept on 😂😂😂 gave me a good laugh

[@cheekster777]

Thank you Gil.

[@JohnnySayers-w7t]

honey wake up, OneTake dropped another timeline video! 🥰

[@LinkForan]

Another amazing timeline video as always! Great work! Though one thing I couldn't help but notice is that you used John Matrix from Commando in the thumbnail rather than Dutch.

[@OneTakeVids]

Haha I guess my thumbnail guy couldn’t find a high enough res photo of Dutch

[@OneTakeVids]

And it’s fixed!

[@Rainwolfgaming562]

Amazing video

[@gustavoloureiro114]

Jurassic Park/World next ??

[@stephenstrange4239]

Monumental job.

[@guyinc0gnito]

I had no idea comments could be this long-crazy times we’re livin in!

[@OneTakeVids]

Fun fact, it was longer but I hit the limit and had to cut out the last Q in the FAQ!

[@Gunner_Galactico]

Definitely gonna play Alien Isolation 🤔

[@soulbrother1143]

Now that would of been dope as fuq if they did a predator vs alien and brought ripley and dutch together to work them

[@tahlequah]

everyone say thank you onetake

[@flbpgaming6375]

Did predators and avp: requiem get mixed up?

[@Captain.AmericaV1]

*The Alien/human hybrid one shot the queen, showing how powerful it was!!*

[@AppleFrogTomatoFace]

when i saw the title i thought it said "alien vs terminator" lol i guess when i saw the thumbnail and saw Arnold automatically thought terminator.. lol

[@panmo2110]

This is great and you've just accidentally created a new movie franchise. This could be great! ❤

[@dragula131]

My only issue with the video I've seen thus far(up to predators film) is the year that is labelled for predators. Are we going off the year movie was released or what is supposed to be the year in the film timeline? Only asking cuz predators was released in 2010 well before predator 2018

[@OneTakeVids]

The years are all meant to be when the movies actually take place, not when they were released (though sometimes the two are the same like for Predator or AvP)

[@dragula131]

Upon continuing the video I see it follows what is supposed to be the linear timeline for the year in the movies. Although the verdict for predators could be anytime in modern times cuz it doesn't take place with Earth like the rest of the predator films

[@dragula131]

​@@OneTakeVidsthat makes sense boss. I never cared much for predators so I didn't pay attention to the year it was supposed to be in lol

[@AppleFrogTomatoFace]

my problem with predator is that they are clearly advanced race of being that can do interstellar travel, but for thousands of years their technology is evolved very slow... i mean if human survived alien constant fight with aliens(xenomorph) with in few hundred years we would have developed very efficient way to beat them... probably have perfect protective armor from their acid blood and a sword that doesn't get melted when cut through them, etc.

[@gamersalliancegaming-anima523]

why would they use better tech? and they do have tech like acid proof weapons but only high ranked weapons they culture have hunters so why would they have better weapons? if you got better weapons...you will forgot...how be so close to death if you win you will gain skills and experience...to get better armor and weapons they need to rank up getting more skills and experience even if newy hunters will died...some will lived to gain skills and experience and rank up

[@AppleFrogTomatoFace]

@ i was thinking similar things about that as i was writing the comment. That means we only seen very low level predators, and they have an army of very advanced predators we never actually seen. And there is a society of elite predator we never seen. If they explore that it would be interesting. And kinda wonder how or the purpose of the elite predator society…

[@insanedestiny5164]

I would like to note that the cup that the sacrifice drinks at the beginning of the film is NOT the black goo btw.

[@isaiahgarcia2464]

What is it?? Im heavily invested into the movies and no one has ever said this.

[@timwalkerfukyt]

Ive never noticed in pred 2 rhe scene with 3x classic mustangs side by side in traffic an ive seen this shit a 1000x

[@ManmoonsinghManmoon]

Nothing could have survive it 💯👍

[@TheMightyCookieShow]

Dutch and his team where NOT mercenaries. They where an elite delta force rescue team.

[@DustinBrooks-tl4bh]

Correct! Dutch even says so in Predator. "We're a rescue team, not assassins."

[@TheMightyCookieShow]

@DustinBrooks-tl4bh I've no clue where the merc claim came from. They've ALWAYS been Army. Always!!!

[@uncledibby]

I cant believe they turned "the predator" into al gore nonsense

[@Skunkman-w5x]

Isn’t there a prey 2 or something

[@OneTakeVids]

Not yet. Predator: Badlands is coming next year but that won’t be a direct sequel to Prey, it apparently will take place in the future

[@BeyondtheIights]

​@@OneTakeVids Cool, swear I heard about an second Prey in Egyptian Times. Love all predator lore so aslong as they keep them coming I'm happy!

[@b1bbscraz3y]

I like how she got her ankle clamped into by a metal animal trap and she just got out and went on like it never happened and barely affected her. also the Yautja are a species that have existed longer than humans, should be vastly more intelligent than humans since they've invented interstellar/interplanetary space travel and highly advanced technological weapons... but they can't remember or don't know that the arrows they shoot follows the 3 red dotted light from their helmet and decide to fire said arrows without knowing what the 3 dotted light is actually aimed at? what sense does that make

[@Skunkman-w5x]

@@b1bbscraz3y 😂 😂 the fact that many have tried to kill these alien beings , real full grown bad azz soldiers , warriors etc and failed. And in this one, it’s a little girl , don’t look no older then 15…..that kills a predator 😂 😂

[@Skunkman-w5x]

@@OneTakeVids ok cheers.

[@007REAPER007]

Yeah, I didnt like Prey, as if 2 native teenagers manage something one of the best Alpha teams couldnt with superior skills and technology, a perfect Hunter that hunts things across the universe but a little girl with sticks beat it? gimme a break! The Predator 2018 was better than Prey in my opinion even with its own issues. They should make a new Predator movie but in this one, The Predators come back for Dutch and we meet retired Arnold willing to kill another one or many of them out of revenge. Nostromo wreckage? it was vaporized by a massive explosion how is there any wreckage? BTW by the logic of the Alien in resign in space, wouldnt that mean the Queen Ripley ejected would still be alive as well? Its interesting in a world with synthetics they need to force people into labour loll. Great video, Thank you.

[@Nunyabuisness80]

It's just a movie man relax. That's some rant lol.

[@Bucketbrain82]

Not the same level as a Hunter etc. Called feral. Even still it was crap.

[@myronwilborn2060]

You must not be much of a predator fan , they were Two totally different timelines and predator breeds with different skill sets and technology. 2018 was like a special person made it in homage or something.

[@myronwilborn2060]

Female protagonists was not the problem with Prey. It made it a little bit interesting to see her battling things on multiple fronts, not every movie can pull off a female hero without it being puke 🤮 and she wasn’t the first in the predator story ,it could have been worse. They had to do it in a way that whoever was aware of the predator was not someone that would have the ear of the tribe because that would change their dismissal of the idea that allows them to be killed so it coming from a girl actually makes sense. And she did not kill the type of predator that you saw in 1987, prey was a much weaker race of predator plus without the advanced weaponry from 87 and 90.

[@lordcolinb]

😂😂😂😂 some crappy sequels on both sides

[@dragula131]

Just curious but which alien sequels are the crappy ones. I know what my votes are for with 3 and rez but I've heard of people hating on the prequels/sequels

[@bogus69]

The Predator (2018) was such a dumb movie.. they even added in climate change to the plot point..

[@Randy-en5zz]

Disagree.😊

[@myronwilborn2060]

I was entertained for a minute but as far as being a GOOD predator movie to add to the lore not really. It’s like it was made out of homage by the creator for someone he cares about that has mental challenges, or was made to bring light to the topics he cares about it definitely wasn’t about predator redemption that’s for sure.kind of like how Ryan coogler wrote in rocky balboa getting lymphoma as his own dad had battled it, except he did it without writing a bad movie around it when he made creed .

[@DoloresVillatoro-ho5jg]

Prey was so stupid, I couldn't even finish watching it. They clearly disregarded the lore with Raphael & his flintlock pistol. Now they're actually making a sequel to Prey. Guess they aren't satisfied having fully driven the franchise into the ground until they pee on the ashes of what's left I suppose.

[@tylerdalton4406]

I liked it and it didn’t think I would with the premise but I find it interesting when people hate it what was the reason?

[@DoloresVillatoro-ho5jg]

@@tylerdalton4406 In the first Predator, Spec ops soldiers went up against predator and only one survived. A girl that weighs 110 soaking wet & wearing boots with a bow & arrow & a flintlock pistol goes up against a 7ft+ tall predator and kills it?!? Not to mention too much cgi and I didn't like the design of this predator either. They could've made a better movie with all the lore available. Made no sense, I didn't like it.

[@myronwilborn2060]

You misunderstand, predator and these similar movie franchises have been ran into the ground way before, Prey was a decent attempt at digging it out , let’s hope pt 2 continues with the same effort. The pistol thing is not that big of a deal because unless you read the comics you don’t know about the whole pirate thing anyway doesn’t impact the story differently at all .