OneXfly F1 Pro vs ROG Ally X | The future ain't cheap

[@ramialhashidi3125]

I can’t unsee my rog ally x bezel’s after watching ur video 😢

[@UnLoCoSs]

true....but the bezel-topic on the ally x was already a thing, even before this comparison. and by looking at the MSI Claw 8 AI + it doesn't seem to get better since the bezels there are also huge. But hey, at least they get less "prominent" to our eyes as the display size seems to grow with the next-gen of handhelds.

[@steveybiggunzgaming8118]

Damn. I thought the ally was small it actually looks big sitting next to that onexfly

[@X862go]

I hope we don't go too small. I actually like a steamdeck sized handheld. Like, I have a wii u tablet 😅.

[@BarelyAverageDude]

Ally X is actually medium considering all the handheld PCs available right now.

[@steveybiggunzgaming8118]

@@X862go steam deck def the most comfortable. Doesn't need a case or.anything it's the perfect design. I love the ally x but as soon as I got it I wanted a grip case to give me more to hold on to. Legion go has a good design too I like the way that one feels

[@hassb6348]

Man give me the ally with a slightly bigger oled display and I’ll buy it in a heartbeat. I just hated how small the screen is

[@BarelyAverageDude]

Sounds like the legion Go 2 rumors with OLED

[@namduonghoang2931]

but there is information that with Oled you can not have VRR. Personnally if i have to choose, i would choose VRR over Oled.

[@BarelyAverageDude]

@@namduonghoang2931 you can have OLED and VRR (some laptops and gaming monitors have both), but it’s not cheap and we’ve never seen it on a handheld

[@Sonsofanarchyrules678]

​@BarelyAverageDude you would have amoled and vrr phones have it

[@BarelyAverageDude]

@@Sonsofanarchyrules678 if you want to go to AMOLED then yeah it’ll definitely be more expensive. It would still have to be a custom display that we’ve never seen before because phones are very mature market as far as a manufacturing standpoint and you couldn’t just take a phone display and put it on a handheld.

[@gamingadept4322]

Waiting for the rog ally 2 or legion go 2. That price is definitely hard to justify. I can afford it but dont want to spend that much on a handheld. £800 is the max ill go for a handheld

[@BarelyAverageDude]

Ally X is already 800, do you think the 2 will come in under that? 🤔

[@gamingadept4322]

@BarelyAverageDude no I don't but I'm sure it won't be $1399

[@BarelyAverageDude]

@@gamingadept4322 definitely not. I expect it to be 50-100 more than Ally X

[@samhawkes6597]

Yh I agree. I'm on the lookout for a new machine. That better performance and that oled screen do make that F1 pro tempting. If we wasn't a few weeks from ces 2025 and new handhelds I'd had brought the F1 pro

[@jackykwan2580]

Just wait a year after it launches will drop price. These things become like laptop they launch every year

[@ThienNguyen-k1m]

Very good content.. keep em coming!!

[@BarelyAverageDude]

Appreciate it! What do you want to see next?

[@ThienNguyen-k1m]

@ a whole lot more of the HX 370 content or other handhelds.. maybe tips and tricks on how to fully optimize the device.. anything that relates to this device basically 😀

[@SomeGuyAgain]

Hell yeah I was waiting for this comparison

[@adamheath2533]

I have both of them. The Onexfly is better in every way except for the 80w battery of the Ally X.

[@Ifalvarado]

I bet with the 15watt you get much better framerates than rog ally x on 30watt.... so that kind of mitigates the battery life

[@BarelyAverageDude]

@@Ifalvarado it takes about 18w to beat the Ally at 25/30w but yes the new processor is much more efficient.

[@crregazzamerone]

Ally x is great. Best buy had 100 off on black friday fir the 1tb. Wait fir a sale.

[@illogik]

No one ever mentions controls when discussing the onexfly. The offset controls are more exaggerated. How does that feel compared to the ally x? What about the dpad and the triggers etc? What about the sound? I don’t want a good device with terrible audio.

[@BarelyAverageDude]

@@illogik f1 pro sounds great! 👍🏽

[@jackykwan2580]

Ally X still wins because of 80wh battery. If you are always required to plug in will beat the purpose of being a handheld

[@I3aMb00]

Yup the Onex only has a 48.5Wh capacity battery which is ridiculously small. It doesn’t make sense to have all that power in a handheld if it only last 45 minutes on a full charge

[@BarelyAverageDude]

@@I3aMb00even at 30w you still get over an hr on the F1 pro (1hr 10mins)

[@KD-wc4rs]

In most situation your not going to be playing that long for me personally I work in my car so I can plug in half the time and at home ofc I got a laptop

[@davec7641]

Yeah but you need less wattage on the F1 to match the same performance of the Ally. That helps. Then again the F1 is more portable due to smaller size so a compromise had to be made to battery size.

[@TheBigLC]

What is worth it's money ally x or gaming laptop?

[@BarelyAverageDude]

Both serve different purposes. I say both are worth it

[@TheBigLC]

@BarelyAverageDude thanks I'll be buying both in 2025 but can you please compare the Asus Rog ally x to a gaming laptop?

[@BarelyAverageDude]

​@@TheBigLClaptop will always win performance and productivity, Ally X wins in portability and efficiency

[@MrLou2serious]

Better be $500 worth of higher performance cause ain't no way in paying that much.

[@bullseye0419]

No way I'm buying a handheld for the price of a gaming laptop with deviated GPU

[@BarelyAverageDude]

Yeah it’s definitely expensive.

[@YelNatSttocS]

The reason why they release it early because once rog ally 2 and legion go 2 release it will be reasonable. onexplayer, gpd and ayaneo are always pricey.

[@charlestannehill7537]

Once you go oled, you don't go back. Wanted the legion go so bad, but it being lcd (no matter how nice the display) was a no go for me. Made me sad. Stuck with my sd oled. But now the legion go 2 will oled. And more powerful. Bazzite and windows, here I come.

[@BarelyAverageDude]

@@charlestannehill7537 the future is looking bright fr

[@charlestannehill7537]

@@BarelyAverageDude as long as the legion go 2 is oled and can run any game 1080p, I'm sold. It looks way more ergonomic in the official leaked pics as well. I'm stoked.

[@HipHopFanatic-s8y]

​@@charlestannehill7537 so oled 800p is special?

[@charlestannehill7537]

@@HipHopFanatic-s8y oled 90hz > lcd 120hz. Most would agree. And it's very hard to notice 800p-1080p at such a small size. Hold an oled sd next to an ally(x) in person. The difference is night and day. When I show my sd oled to best buy employees, they say they should be carrying this instead of the ally.

[@abcdoooabcd]

i will wait for oled z2 extreme handheld with steam os

[@BarelyAverageDude]

@@abcdoooabcd summer 2025 🤞🏽

[@SamuelHarris-f8z]

What are your thoughts on the ayaneo3? Good work btw brother

[@BarelyAverageDude]

@@SamuelHarris-f8z the Ayaneo 3 is next level! The interchangeable controller modules look amazing!

[@Ifalvarado]

So it makes sense to wait for ROG ally version 2..... with an oled

[@BarelyAverageDude]

@@Ifalvarado possibly. We don't have any confirmed info on Ally 2, but it should definitely be a nice improvement over the X. I'm interested to see if the have OLED and VRR, Because no other device has both right now

[@KD-wc4rs]

U gonna wait a year ?

[@panico08]

Você consegue colocar dublagem automática nos próximos vídeos?

[@BarelyAverageDude]

@@panico08 KZbin has to enable that feature, my apologies. Hopefully the automatic captions are working

[@EzaneeGires]

Im waiting for the hx 370 win mini

[@BarelyAverageDude]

Same

[@tobfon2416]

The bezels are so ugly on the ally x. I would buy onexfly. But dont want to have warranty problems with a company in China for this price tag 😢

[@juicyjey1334]

How much fps do you think this would get in Warzone?

[@BarelyAverageDude]

@@juicyjey1334 whatever the Ally X gets add 15% 👍🏽😅

[@gvs8341]

like 55 at minimal settings 😂😂😂

[@BarelyAverageDude]

@@gvs8341that sounds too low 🤔

[@gvs8341]

@ Its a handheld running graphics using a CPU what you expect?

[@juicyjey1334]

@@BarelyAverageDude my regular Ally gets 55 average on minimal settings. I’m curious at what the HX 370 can get.

[@DJJEFJAMM]

I don’t see many people if anyone talk about this but now that you show them side by side, I can’t see how anyone could use the Onexfly with how low the right analog stick is. There is nothing left to hold onto. So yea the device is smaller but you can’t cheat that distance. The ally x feels the right distance and is thus bigger for a good reason even though same screen size.

[@BarelyAverageDude]

@@DJJEFJAMM check my first impressions video; Onexfly is actually very comfortable to hold and play. It looks like if would be too small, but because the way the grip is designed your hand ends up in a good position.

[@DJJEFJAMM]

@@BarelyAverageDude wouldn’t your thumb angle be tilted too much and not naturally extended?

[@Respectmyskill07]

Software-wise, I actually prefer OneXPlayer. It's everything you need on one screen, and the launcher does everything you need as well. Battery life is more equal than people think. The F1 at 15W performs better than the Ally at 25W. The Ally X at 25W does offer slightly more battery life, though it's not drastic; we're talking about an extra 15 minutes. So if you're playing in turbo mode all the time on the Ally, you probably won't notice the decrease in battery size.

[@X862go]

Armory crate has gotten crazy good this year.

[@criznittle968]

Don’t use frame generation in benchmarks. It shouldn’t be enabled with a base frame rate below 60, and these devices aren’t hitting that.

[@euariaeu8873]

the new chipset is efficient imagine new ai ryzen with 80whr battery thats a win win for battery you will not need to pick powerbrick/powerbank

[@BarelyAverageDude]

@@euariaeu8873 an 80wH battery with this new chip is going to be amazing! It can beat the max Ally X performance at 15-18W

[@edwardlashley3572]

The xfly with the 8,000 series chip, an OLED display 32 gigs of RAM & 144 hertz refresh rate is $999. Don’t get fleeced for an extra $350. It’s either between that $1,000 xfly or the MSI CLAW 8 if you are looking for a new premium device today. The MSI has a better battery & I think it’s faster, although I don’t know how much faster. But that xfly has an OLED & I’m assuming all of the benefits that come from running AMD software. I would not just completely dismiss the complete lack of that software suite when it comes to the MSI. AMD’s software be doin some things.

[@BarelyAverageDude]

@@edwardlashley3572 if you just want to OLED then yeah the 8840u option could be the one for you. But keep in mind that the performance is still behind the HX 370 chip especially when it comes to lower wattages.

[@ThienNguyen-k1m]

I had both... I sold my Ally X and kept the F1. After playing on the F1, going back to the Ally feels outdated, dull, and clunky

[@BarelyAverageDude]

@@ThienNguyen-k1m I can definitely see that. F1 pro is the future compared to Ally X, but the future ain't cheap as they say.

[@euariaeu8873]

the ai claw plus now is a good device compare to their last year handheld..

[@BarelyAverageDude]

@@euariaeu8873 unfortunately, the first claw was so bad I sent it back. 😅🤷🏽‍♂️

[@youjean83]

I got the F1 Pro 64 GB version. Expensive as fking hell, but I love it. Though I'm not your regular user. I'm running K3S/Docker Swarm on it etc. Bazzite is fully supported on the F1 Pro if you wonder.

[@K9NINO]

I got the 64 Ram 2tb ssd. fukng spensive, but im in love. better that any mike mouse ally x

[@RichFam2023]

Pay over 2x the price of an ROG Ally X just for an oled and +5 fps average

[@Exit854]

I'm about as deep. I went with 32/1 but upgraded to 8TB SSD 😂

[@Exit854]

​@@RichFam2023literally first game shown is a 15 frame difference. It's a 20 percent better chip. That's significant.

[@equinox9]

​@@RichFam2023😂 Exactly, not really worth boasting about especially when it'll get phased out in a year. Still very playable frame rate on Ally.

[@crankyboiy]

The comparison is over when you mentioned battery life. Who tf wants a 1300+ device and can't even have better battery life? That's the biggest factor for getting a handheld. There are other OLED devices for half the price like steamdeck. The new Lenovo go 2 will have OLED and will 100% not be more than 1300+. This thing is garbage price wise in comparison with other devices with similar specs.

[@BarelyAverageDude]

@@crankyboiy price is definitely wild, but there are no devices with similar specs out right now. Battery is on the smaller side, but because the processor is much more efficient, you can match the ally’s 30watts with only 17W on the F1 Pro. This means that if you aim for comparable performance, the battery life isn’t much less.

[@KD-wc4rs]

Your just poor bro it’s ok the steam deck can even run half the shit this can

[@crankyboiy]

@@BarelyAverageDude yes but there's no way legion go 2 or rog ally 2 will be this pricey. The new MSI claw has almost the same spec, actually better, without OLED and is 400+ less. It's 20% faster with better battery. This doesn't even make any sense.

[@crankyboiy]

@@KD-wc4rs it's not just steamdeck, the price and spec ratio doesn't match. Compare it with the MSI 8 AI+. Also compare it with the legion go 2 coming out 1st quarter. Big difference in specs and is and will be much cheaper. But if you'd rather waste your money on overpriced shit than pay less for a better device then knock yourself out. #stupidity

[@KD-wc4rs]

@@crankyboiy stupidity ? Bro we can argue this all day this only a problem IF YOUR BROKE in the grand scheme of things most of these things aren’t really different I can clearly buy whatever I want so money ain’t n issue

[@Russiangamerpro2021]

The only panel I would get with OLED will be a portable modern that has a beautiful display with OLED because that means I will buy it if it has 1440 P with 144 Hz or higher then I’ll buy it lot of them they don’t have it they only have some so that’s why I don’t consider buying one cause they don’t have it and I got not gonna buy a handheld that uses expensive panel

[@Liatin1]

Skip for me' the new apus arent that much of an upgrade

[@BarelyAverageDude]

@@Liatin1 how much better until you consider upgrading?

[@Liatin1]

@@BarelyAverageDude I think it'd have to be a noticeable jump in fps at the same wattages. Right now, Zen 5 perf difference is measurable but 10-15% difference in fps isn't worth another 800-1000 upgrade. I think I'll have to wait for 40%+. This is from a perspective of already owning a steam deck and rog ally.

[@benhawk4214]

$500 for only about 20% more performance does not feel worth it

[@BarelyAverageDude]

How much would you factor OLED into the calculation? For reference; if there was an OLED Ally X, how much more would you pay than the normal Ally X?

[@benhawk4214]

@BarelyAverageDude I would say at most $200 more for an oled screen, though I also don't know how much it costs to produce. You're also losing vrr and battery life with the onexfly, so I feel like 1100 would be more reasonable. From what I've heard, AMD is mainly to blame for the Hx 370 price increases

[@BarelyAverageDude]

@ yeah I’m with you. These smaller companies are struggling to make reasonable prices with the new chips. Not saying it’s an excuse to pay more, but with lower volumes, it’s hard to get the price down

[@benhawk4214]

@@BarelyAverageDude yeah I have to respect Onexplayer for pushing the envelope but man are they are pricey

[@wwrye929]

Fl placement of controls look uncomfortable compared rog ally x .

[@X862go]

Sticks look tiny

[@ox3965]

Steam Deck. End of story.

[@BarelyAverageDude]

@@ox3965 Steam Deck is great, but definitely not the end of the story. This is just the beginning.

[@X862go]

Did my man just say this is a 1400 usd handheld 🤯

[@BarelyAverageDude]

1300 but yeah it’s crazy 😳

[@Russiangamerpro2021]

I don’t care about all about OLED because of the prize because buying OLED is considered to be more expensive than LCD because buying a different panel for handheld is gonna be more cheaper than other panels there’s more expensive cause I am not able to afford it $800 or $1000 more which is stupid because some customers are just laying because they want a beautiful panel I don’t care the only way you can just buy is a stupid monitor with a stupid OLED panel because I don’t have the money because stupid inflation I can only afford it just to use it not use a stupid panel. It’s basically I’m gonna have a customers who’s complaining.

[@BarelyAverageDude]

@@Russiangamerpro2021 the Steam Deck OLED is a more affordable way to get OLED. I agree that the F1 pro is very expensive

[@Buraak_87]

if the F1 pro has 49Wh and Ally 80 than it has 63% more battery than F1 pro..... (80 divided by 49)

[@KD-wc4rs]

Bro what ?

[@Buraak_87]

@@KD-wc4rs he says its only 40% bigger at 4:00, thats not true

[@KD-wc4rs]

@@Buraak_87 oh ok

[@X862go]

500 more that's zephyrus g14 pricing.

[@Ifalvarado]

and on sale its about 1100 right now! G14 is tiny and nice

[@mikaeldalc]

Look at the difference in size. The OneXplayer looks so much better. My Ally X is huge and becomes uncomfortable after an hour. Asus needs to take notes

[@X862go]

Idk that looks too small are those switch sticks 🤔.

[@BarelyAverageDude]

@@X862gosticks are bigger than switch but slightly smaller than Xbox sticks

[@theo5675]

This isn’t worth it over the ally x for the price now if they were the same price then sure it would be

[@BarelyAverageDude]

@@theo5675 I feel you. I guess the latest tech ain’t cheap. Everyone that has an F1 pro loves it and I can confirm it is a great device, but the price is hard to justify

[@andyschroder1743]

Der Preis ist nicht gerecht viel zu teuer und kleine Akku software und Support ist sehr wichtig und das für ungefähr 5-10 FPS mehr nein danke Lg

[@BarelyAverageDude]

It does actually get pretty regular software updates, but yeah the price is very high.

[@ThereisNOpandemicWAKEUP]

That bezel and lcd is unacceptable. And when hdr comes for the f1. The rog x is a non device.

[@X862go]

1400usd anything is a non device for a handheld. That's full-blown gaming laptop money with a gpu.

[@ThereisNOpandemicWAKEUP]

@@X862go while i agree it is too expensive. Tell me how you are gonna power your laptop portably with a powerbank. You wont. I will wait ces and see. Maybe ill wait steamdeck 2.

[@KD-wc4rs]

@@X862gonot portable tho