Most POWERFUL Handheld Yet? OneXFly F1 Pro Vs ROG ALLY X Review

[@okestgamer]

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[@VeegovonDOOM]

The fact that they would make such a great device and then 💩 the bed with a garbage battery is mind-boggling to me.

[@okestgamer]

It's a smaller form factor they decided on I believe.

[@mantapdjiwa9768]

I dont care, as long as it is much lighter than all the competitor, I game plugged in btw. 510 gram 7 inch pc is crazy.

[@WondefullComment]

Whats the point of having better hardware than ally x if you have to play at 15w to reach same battery life of ally x, while playing at 25 w on ally x and getting better performance than on 15 w one fly? And its cost almost double of ally x for not double performance than ally x

[@okestgamer]

So for the math, the ally x is 799, the oxf is 1339. Double 799 is 1598. I actually just finished a performance target battery test between the 2, I'll be releasing shortly which will be a better measure for hitting a fps target and seeing what the battery cost is on each.

[@mantapdjiwa9768]

weight, 200gram difference is hugeeeeeeeeeeeee

[@okestgamer]

@@mantapdjiwa9768 oh I was referring to cost haha

[@WondefullComment]

@@okestgamer thats what I said almost double

[@MrMilkyCoco]

Yup I have the asuka edition of this device and you and others have helped me with my windows issue by suggesting to completely reinstall. It pretty much fixed all my windows issues.

[@okestgamer]

@@MrMilkyCoco yeah my issues went away with the windows install as well

[@aaroneldreth]

Thank you for providing tests with both FSR off by default (my preference) and FSR on. Subscribed just for that. Audio test was appreciated too. Ultimately, I want the Onex w/ HX 370, but I do not want to pay for it.

[@okestgamer]

yeah it costs a pretty penny. I'm actually filming a battery test based on performance target as i write this. targetting 60fps in cyberpunk with FSR and frame gen, but seeing which device will last longer due to efficiency and being able to lower the TDP to achieve the 60 fps target. The ally is looking to win, but not by near as much as people assume.

[@AsthmaQueen]

personally i cannot imagine using something that doesn't have the steam decks trackpads. Touch screen typing, and touch screen style mouse control only is just a non-starter after using steam deck.

[@okestgamer]

They are nice to have, I’ve been on windows devices for so long I’ve just adapted

[@muradshawar]

It will be amazing to see what these devices will be able to do in 5 years from now . I would assume at that point it can really handle games well at 720p to 1080p

[@okestgamer]

Yeah in 5 years they should be a good step forward I would think

[@504Rone]

Why didn’t you show how long the ROG Ally X would last at 15 or 17 watts?

[@okestgamer]

I didn't have those results (I pulled from previous review) don't worry though I have another battery test video coming soon that I just finished. It's a performance based battery test where the target is 60fps in cyberpunk, and the devices efficiency is tested. That one will be a good measure

[@charlestannehill7537]

Did you try changing color profiles? I'm willing to bet the SD Oled is just as punchy as the one x fly, except that the manufacturers are using different color grading profiles. Because oled looks pretty much the same between the variations in this technology. I think the one x fly was color boosted to make it more punchy.

[@okestgamer]

I hadn’t messed with settings for more colour changes. The only thing I did was use amd oled battery saver which dims it a little on the onexfly

[@charlestannehill7537]

@okestgamer yeah, I believe the color profile/grading is the reason it looks so drastically different. Just like how lcd tvs on display at the store all look different.

[@okestgamer]

there's likely ways to tune them to look better. my main thing was showing how they look with minimal changes.

[@onexplayerofficial]

Thank you for your review!

[@okestgamer]

No problem!

[@lyomon9981]

Add a bigger battery or a battery add on

[@ghost762]

I would like to see it running Bazite. I don't know if ETA Prime tried that or not.

[@okestgamer]

I’ve still not ventured into bazzite territory, I’ve been curious though

[@raviyoutube-zn3kv]

@@okestgamerETA prime installed bazzite on it and it worked flawlessly

[@sTuPiDiScOoL_]

The problem with eta prime sometimes is that he says things are good just because thats what the company wants him to say and because i am guessing the terms will be if he does not make a positive review then no free product but he doesn't disclose that.

[@okestgamer]

I know some in the discord server have as well, seems like it’s fairly simple

[@MiloFig]

I just put bazzite on my ROG Ally X and it was easier than I thought it would be to get everything working. The experience made me realize that Windows does really make the handheld experience way less pleasant than it needs to be.

[@magoasa]

I think the biggest issue with any handheld device is the power limit of approximately 35W; it is difficult to dissipate more watts.

[@okestgamer]

Plus most of these chips have very finished returns above that

[@mikaeldalc]

The size of the device looks perfect. These handhelds are huge and become uncomfortable after an hour. I love my Ally X but the weight and size kills me. The major issue with this one is the battery size though. 65WH should be minimum

[@okestgamer]

Would be nice, when I looked inside the device there isn’t much room to expand that battery at the form factor unfortunately

[@danebeee1]

Man this with the ally’s 80 watt hour battery would be endgame handheld (until more powerful apus come out)**edit** vrr on oleds is another thing that would make this perfection

[@okestgamer]

Yeah it would be deadly. Add in the full size joysticks and I've found the perfect device.

[@lofimusiq]

Much better than ETAPrime review. Mine comes in 2 days it just completed customs. Can’t wait!

[@okestgamer]

I’m sure you’ll enjoy it, if you have issues join the onexplayer discord and most can be resolved.

[@randerins]

The Legio Go sound comparison was brutal 💀 LeNovo failed here.

[@okestgamer]

Let’s hope it’s fixed in the next gen

[@RemoWilliams1227]

@@randerins indeed, Lenovo left my possibilities on that one.

[@RemoWilliams1227]

Subbed, good review friendo

[@okestgamer]

thanks for the support! look forward to a performance based battery test coming soon! targetting 60fps in cyberpunk and seeing which one can hit the target while saving battery. running the test as i write this haha.

[@RemoWilliams1227]

@okestgamer I've put the xfly in the cart twice lol, there's such a glut of handhelds right now I'm hesitant. I like the steam deck but I like the size of the xfly better for a handheld and it has dope features in it's own right. I'll definitely watch for the 60fps comparison. At the 7" size I'll bet fhd looks great on the oled and keeps hardware from having to push 1440 or 4k, I know I'm rambling.... 🤣

[@okestgamer]

So what I did was just a single game due to how long the recording process is for a battery test. Cyberpunk, lowest settings, frame gen and FSR on.

[@Francisco-i9n2b]

I was close to splurging and purchasing one of these, but I want to wait for CES and what the legion go 2 has to offer. The claw 8 is also tempting with its performance and specs. Plus price isn’t as crazy as this device

[@okestgamer]

Hopefully whatever Lenovo brings will be nice

[@raviyoutube-zn3kv]

Can you do a test where you match the fps on both ally and f1 pro to see what wattage is needed for f1 pro to run the games to get the same performance? Then we can also get an idea of battery life as well. From what I have seen so far most of the games that run at 30w on ally can be achieved with 15-20w on f1 pro.

[@okestgamer]

I’ve been actually mentioning doing a test like that in a few other comments. Might be a better battery test to compare

[@raviyoutube-zn3kv]

@ Thank you.

[@okestgamer]

No problem, I’ll see if I can fit it in

[@tonyj797]

Legion go is where its at! Good graphics, FPS and decent battery....Legion go 2 will be even better!

[@okestgamer]

I'm looking forward to whatever Lenovo brings next

[@denniia]

Having an ROG Ally X , there's a few games even it struggles to get a nice stable 30 fps , so seeing some of those game like Horzion was nice and made me think maybe i should get this one too , but seeing the price ? I think i'm good. I didn't think it would that much different in price! Still impressive! I do wonder how well it would do in Avatar FoP.

[@okestgamer]

Yeah performance is great, and it's definitely more expensive, it seems like the next Gen chips are going to cost more than the 8840 or Z1E

[@TheRealCharlieSuper]

I have a GPD WIn 4 with the HX370 - at low, 900p, FSR on Ultra Performance, w/ Frame gen; I can get about 50-60fps (30-40 w/o frame gen) constant in Avatar FoP @~30w.

[@okestgamer]

Oh did they ship out already?

[@TheRealCharlieSuper]

@@okestgamer Just got mine on the 20th

[@okestgamer]

@@TheRealCharlieSuper oh that’s great, I thought they would arrive in January

[@OblivionPrime]

its really nice but i mostly care about battery life more than anything for a handheld

[@okestgamer]

That’s fair, I’ve been debating doing a test where I match the fps on this and the ally x to see what power it takes to run at the target and see how they compare.

[@kjellbeats]

​@@okestgamerthat's a great idea

[@okestgamer]

@@kjellbeats might need to do it then haha. Would be a pretty short video I think

[@sauceboss4670]

I'd much rather have a lighter handheld and plug it into a power bank on the floor next to me.

[@okestgamer]

It's why we need different handhelds, one for everyone

[@edwardsutherland8240]

can you setup presets of wattage and resolution for each game?

[@okestgamer]

The software supposedly can do something like that. I have not tested that yet though.

[@ac372]

The thing is for this you need to be plugged in (like the OG Ally) and if you already own the ally X might just get an eGPU as your plug for like less than this costs…I would have insta purchased this with a 80 or 90kwh battery. even though the FPS difference is not that dramatic and it can be easily balanced out with different settings on the FPS side between the two but when traveling the OneX just is too quickly depleted no matter what TDP. 1:43 at 15W is really poor and not acceptable IMHO

[@okestgamer]

It’s really just the ally x with this large of a battery, and now the new claw 8. I’m not sure we will see 80 be the new standard, at least for smaller devices. The mid size like ally x or claw 8 might be closer to that moving forward.

[@videofrat3115]

Honest question: what's the point of getting these if you will be playing at 20-40 fps? At that point why not get just a small laptop for travel?

[@okestgamer]

So I won't be playing at those settings, I'll use FSR and lower graphics settings in actual use. When I did those sort of gameplay demos people wanted me to do them without FSR so I tried that on this video, with occasional clips of my actual play settings. . Frame gen is also a great tool

[@crestofhonor2349]

Because not everyone needs super high frame rates. These are handhelds not high end gaming rigs

[@ffvllcloud151]

How do you install firmware updates on the device?

[@okestgamer]

There are bios files provided by onexplayer when they come out, most of the updates are the AMD drivers and the onexconsole software. I know they are working on putting more updates through onexconsole in the future.

[@mergieman7769]

Am returning mines in a couple days. Windows is hard to use on a handheld. It crashes and very complicated. I wish it was steam powered or Xbox or ps powered. Imagine a steam deck with the z1 extreme chip wow! I would advice you guys getting a steam deck because games are more optimized there. Then get this whenever it drops in price. It’s not worth 800 dollars returning mines soon

[@okestgamer]

You could install bazzite which is very similar to steamOS

[@JB-tp6uj]

Sounds like you don't know how to use windows. I've had nearly 15 devices and never had a problem with Windows. At some point, just grab a bluetooth mouse and keyboard if you need to do extensive work with windows. There are too many limitations with Steam OS.

[@Phanbot01]

I'd like to wait for the Aya Neo 3 to come to market before I add another device to my collection. OneXfly isn't known to have the best QA and I got burnt by receiving a 6800U handheld that had a unresponsive joystick out of the box. So unless they've upped their game on shipping products that are problem free, they need a lot more to get more of my money.

[@okestgamer]

I think it has improved, but I get you, once burned it's hard to trust again

[@juicyjey1334]

Would love to see how this handheld holds up to the MSI Claw 8 AI

[@okestgamer]

Same here, I'll have to see if I can get ahold of one

[@juicyjey1334]

@ possibly how they run black ops 6/ warzone 🫶🏾🙏🏽

[@okestgamer]

i had hoped to run that game in my tests, but gamepass was being gamepass and it wasn't loading up

[@yamazakitakahiro5515]

Thank you for a really good comparison video, I hoping Z2E chips come out with same or better performance at less than 900

[@okestgamer]

No problem, rumour has it that it will be the same igpu, so should perform the same

[@jontechie]

I laugh at legion go's sound quality 😂

[@okestgamer]

It wasn't as obvious until I did them one after the other

[@Sonsofanarchyrules678]

Imagine spending 1300 for a device and getting 30 fps in recent games and 720p lol crazy

[@okestgamer]

It’s with all upscalers turned off, not settings you would play the games at. When I run with FSR people don’t like that, when I run with FSR off, people wonder why I’m playing at those settings lol. Ya can’t win

[@hazzehummuz6688]

@@okestgamer The bench without FSR is the only real good way to test. That gives us raw performance. Dont listen to these zero IQ people that want tinkered and upscaled... The price foe the low performnace and batterylife i really bad though I agree. :D

[@churchofsatan2041]

People always complain they want a longer battery or more ram. Then be prepared to spend $1000+

[@okestgamer]

Yeah it's more expensive, but you can go pretty wild with 4tb and 64gb if you choose haha.

[@justswitched8841]

The claw ai8 has 32gb of ram and a big 80 watt battery all for under 1k

[@KD-wc4rs]

Just want ish for free 😂

[@okestgamer]

@@KD-wc4rs free is always nice. I’ve driven an embarrassing distance once for a free hotdog bbq 😆.

[@AdmiralBison]

I think the handheld categories will need to be better defined. - Budget small pocketable - Value regular 7~9" screen - Premium ultra large I always want large, more power specs and features and thus I expect to pay far more for it.

[@richardgordon6653]

I had to einstall windows. Fixed my issues. Would have kept bazzite on it but no frame gen. Once I reinstalled windows, wow just wow, performance is great

[@okestgamer]

Yeah then you had the same issue I had. Glad a simple reinstall of windows fixed it

[@kalista37]

Would love to see the onexfly f1 AI vs MSI claw 8 AI

[@okestgamer]

Hopefully I'll be able to get one to do some testing

[@GreenDiamondTech]

Yes definitely!

[@okestgamer]

I'm thinking the AI 370 will win. I did try match the ray tracing settings eta prime did for cyberpunk and it's not as good on the onexfly as the claw 8

[@kalista37]

@okestgamer I saw that video, the Ray tracing looked really good here didn't seem to be any artifacting, global illumination looked amazing.

[@okestgamer]

@ yeah it might be an advantage that chipset has. I of course want to test for myself to verify

[@skiyer0120]

Poor Legion Go. Stands out, "not outstanding" in speaker quality 😢

[@okestgamer]

Yeah it’s the devices weak point

[@SamsungTv-p2w]

pls how fast do the oneX release their products

[@okestgamer]

Every few months, or in some cases they are back to back. Depends on when new APUs come out

[@davec7641]

What is the "harmon app" that is supposed to be there and where to get? Care to elaborate on that?

[@okestgamer]

so its the Harmon APO, its basically a driver that should have been installed at the factory level, but there seemed to be some issue with a batch of devices where windows and some drivers were having issues. it's very easy to install manually, it made a major difference, and is what the speakers were supposed to be if all was installed correctly.

[@davec7641]

@@okestgamer Ok so you described what it does like the video but again where do you get this driver, which version if there are more than one, how do you install, and how do you know if it is already installed or not? Some info on how to correct the missing driver would be helpful.

[@okestgamer]

Planning to make a short form video guide on it. Do you have one of these devices? If you're on discord I can send you the potato quality version I made with my phone

[@etchieSketchie]

The price for that piddly battery is NOT worth… Also I get the feeling that One X Player isn’t a reliable vendor in the long term. Seems they churn out new hardware ALL the time, makes me question how long they will support their current products before moving on to the next shiny thing.

[@okestgamer]

Im debating making a short video to test battery performance where I target a certain fps (maybe 60) and see how long this and the ally x last. See if the extra horse power allows it to save power to reach the goal and how much ground it can make up. I doubt it will match, but should be closer

[@RisedTheworldchanger]

Honestly this is great in almost all areas( and fine in others) but the pricing is just not there (1500 freedom units) the apu while more efficient than z1 extreme is not that much more powerful to add 600 dollars on top of the already expensive rog ally x.

[@okestgamer]

its not cheap thats for sure, at 1339 it is definetly something to thing about before purchase

[@jedimind505]

It's gonna be tuff letting go my Ally X because of the battery 🔋 life. I cannot accept anything less than that now 😅

[@okestgamer]

I'm actually running and filming a performance based battery test between the 2. targetting 60fps cyberpunk with lowest settings to see which device can run it more efficiently. ally x will win, but not by near as much as most would assume. stay tuned.

[@kosh8904]

Bro best review bro.... respect ur work.....Also will u try More games on this? If yes...try Witcher 3 on 900p all high 30w👍

[@okestgamer]

Witcher 3 1080p ultra settings is around 60 fps

[@nethbt]

Why can't they make Android editions?

[@okestgamer]

stay tuned for my next news video, OXP just teased a new android device (onexsugar) I hope that name is a placeholder haha

[@davec7641]

I think the new MSI Claw is the most powerful, it can run Cyberpunk with full RT, I don't think this can. That is an Intel vs AMD thing though not their fault.

[@okestgamer]

this will run games without RT better than the claw, but the claw will run RT better. I suppose it depends on what each person will consider the most powerful. either way, i hope to get ahold of a claw for testing.

[@johnfaustin2978]

It fr look like the Switch Oled Connected to the Mobapad M6 HD

[@okestgamer]

Oh yeah? I'll have to look that up

[@littlebigmarc]

I like it but priced too high

[@okestgamer]

It is expensive yes, but yes I agree on it being a great handheld.

[@rawdiggitydog]

I think they should leave the battery as is because of the compact size of the device. They should wait until solid state battery technology becomes readily available. The bigger these devices get, the less portable they become.

[@okestgamer]

Maybe they could push it to 65wh but I’m not an engineer so I have no idea haha

[@MrMilkyCoco]

Yup with how compact it is, people complain about the battery but dont realize to fit a bigger battery, the device has to be as big as a rog ally x.

[@okestgamer]

Yeah, that battery is super long

[@seethruhead7119]

i wish someone would review these from the POV of running steamfork or bazzite on them i want to buy a new device but i would never run windows

[@okestgamer]

So the good news is that some in the discord tested out bazzite and it worked great

[@jokatech]

I like this device. I was close to getting it but I got my GPD Win4 because I'm an IT guy and like the Windows platform and the keyboard. I don't really like using Steam that much, but when it comes to emulation, I find that no matter how powerful your device is, emulation for certain systems sucks. Xbox, PSVita, and Dreamcast can be unplayable, which is very annoying when the unit I have is way more than powerful enough.

[@okestgamer]

The win 4 has that handy keyboard and mini mouse. Much easier to navigate windows

[@jackykwan2580]

The battery alone makes ally X more worthwhile. Portable stuff needs battery, anything below 80 is a no go. Asus has already set the portable pc standard.

[@ThereisNOpandemicWAKEUP]

Just carry powerbank problem solved

[@okestgamer]

It's nice to have a larger battery, I'm curious though if it will indeed be a standard, or if it's just going to be "pro or X" models

[@okestgamer]

Or like 3 if you're me lol

[@fairplayer916]

so between a 10%-20% performance bump. cool. not $1400 cool. but still cool.

[@okestgamer]

Best case was about 28%, the extra cost isn’t for everyone, the gap between the ally and ally x already throws some people off.

[@fairplayer916]

@okestgamer yeah I'm still rocking my og ally z1 extreme

[@okestgamer]

I’m rocking far too many devices lol

[@fairplayer916]

@@okestgamer shiiiiiieeeeet hook a friend up! Lol

[@fairplayer916]

@@okestgamer I'm kidding obviously. Merry Christmas and happy new year though!

[@Great_America]

For double the price, the OneXFly F1 Pro is just not worth it. And at this price range, VRR, WiFi 7 and a larger battery (e.g., 80W capacity) should be standard.

[@okestgamer]

People like different options and form factors, if we had an even larger device than the ROG Ally we could get 100wh. The beauty of the handheld market is the variety. This device is lighter and smaller which works better for some.

[@50H3i1]

There's a short lived king between these two mentioned msi claw 8 with intel 258v

[@okestgamer]

I’m thinking the ai 370 will out perform the intel 258v, but I gotta wait till I get one in hand to test.

[@davec7641]

@@okestgamer I think Intel has better RT (Does the AMD even have hardware RT support?) This seems like AMD was caught napping a bit but will probably fix that in a later chip.

[@okestgamer]

yeah the RT seems to be better on the intel

[@AdmiralBison]

Oh man, running Fallout Vegas at 4W. In the future we'll probably run things like CyberPunk 2077 on a smart watch.😋

[@okestgamer]

Yeah I wouldn't be surprised haha

[@hazzehummuz6688]

New MSI Claw will be alot cheaper than this so hopefully they enter the game strong with a affordable device performing the same or even better

[@okestgamer]

Yeah let’s see how they do

[@theo5675]

So it’s pretty much the same performance for 50% higher price ? I’ll wait for a way bigger upgrade

[@okestgamer]

Depends where you draw the line for same performance. Gap would be similar to the gap between the steam deck and the ally.

[@KD-wc4rs]

Same performance ? I like how u focused on the 3 or 4 frames and not the 10 or more like mos upgrades just say your broke

[@theo5675]

it’s barely an upgrade it’s not like ur goin to a 4090 from a 3070 lol

[@KD-wc4rs]

@@theo5675 problem is that’s not a huge upgrade either it’s most 10 to 20 frames at a stable 30fps u can play any game remember this is a handheld of not a desktop thier isn’t anything on the market that can beat this performance at these level its always gonna be diminishing returns

[@okestgamer]

The biggest thing I look at is that either you're going to be over the edge and be above 60fps or just below 60 on the ally x. It can be resolved by lowering the quality, but then if you do that on both you're going to have an even larger gap

[@atmphil1]

its to small it looks uncomfortable to hold looks like you need a big grip for it.

[@okestgamer]

It’s actually very comfortable. My hands would be probably med-large and it’s my most comfortable device. Very large hands may find it small.

[@nethbt]

Should have been at least 67W charging speed.

[@okestgamer]

i'm not sure why they didn't include a 100w, for me i have extras, so i haven't used the stock one yet.

[@nethbt]

@okestgamer it will still charge @48W even if you use a 100W charger

[@okestgamer]

I'll have to test, pretty sure I've charged at a higher rate

[@SagiQuarion]

Next gen handhelds gonna take a next gen chunk from your wallet.

[@okestgamer]

Yup, that or wait till they are near being replaced and get them cheaper

[@TesGon]

I have aya neo 2s but my friend got this Generation 1 onexfly. It was considered one of THE best portable handhelds. It's very smal and powerful. But it seems that " Top device" tag is changing every 3-4 month. That's crazy. But even NEW AI chip is only having a GPU equivalent of RTX 1070 series built in. That's on early stages of what they soon will be capable of. And also wanted to say that re-sell value of devices that you get for 1500$+ is like 600-700$ max. So you always loose money in this type of devices. Always.

[@okestgamer]

Yes you will lose money on any tech purchase typically. It’s very often that a new champ comes in to take the crown

[@ksrnate]

Wow glad I never got a legion go those speakers are terrible 😳

[@okestgamer]

It’s the weakest point of that device. Great device otherwise

[@jomscath1822]

Ally X is still better overall. It has enough power and amazing battery combined.

[@okestgamer]

The battery is nice, but the main feature of ally x for me is joysticks

[@GilbertoPaulo1970]

01:45 minutes IT'S NOT a good play time. With the ROG ALLY X I get basically 3 hours game-play at 17w battery and more than 4 hours playing retrogames... Conclusion, a good device with a shitty battery...

[@okestgamer]

I just put out a video with another battery test. Ally x gets 2.5 hours at 17/18w. Give it a watch, it’s a performance target based battery test if you’re interested

[@robertespinoza5958]

I run a ally x every day, and I upgraded from a z1 extreme so I been there for a while, always looking to move up but honestly I think for a extra 10-15 fps bacicly double the price and it looks like they did jump some major corners like tf is that charger lol give us a actual lap top charger like the ally gets for that price, those mapable buttons are in a weird place, the joysticks would probably bug me lol

[@okestgamer]

The ally x actually comes with a 65w charger as well. I do wish this one came with 100w so it could charge much faster, same goes for the ally x.

[@edwardlashley3572]

You can’t compare two items with a $500 price difference between them. There is very little practical need for the horsepower that this new gen device provides at the price point it sells for. You can get crazy performance from a current gen AMD using frame gen tech, especially if you are packing more than 16 gigs of RAM. They are selling a one x player with the 8,000 series chip and an OLED 144 hertz refresh rate 32 gigs of RAM for $999. There ain’t no way in hell you need something mire powerful then that. That device is surely a beast & there is no next gen tech that boosts performance enough to be worth an extra $350.

[@okestgamer]

You can compare performance, if I was doing a cost comparison video then that's another matter.

[@edwardlashley3572]

That’s like comparing the performance of a $350 Nintendo switch with a $699 PlayStation 5 pro. There is a reason for the 350 price difference between those two do silss. That’s like putting a lightweight into a boxing match with a heavyweight. There’s a reason why weight divisions exist in the world of professional fighting.

[@okestgamer]

@@edwardlashley3572 sure but these are handhelds not folks who can get injured haha. I’m not telling folks what to buy or which is better in a price to performance, simply showing what each chipset can do, and what to expect for the Z2E

[@crestofhonor2349]

Price does not need to match to compare the devices. Even then the Switch is overpriced for the price it comes if you're solely going after price. Even if the Switch and PS5 Pro would match in price the PS5 Pro would still vastly outperform the switch simply because one is a battery powered hybrid handheld and the other is a home console. The Switch cannot chug back 150-200w of power as it's cooling system and battery are unable to take those kind of loads

[@gamers-generation]

I came here for the OKest take. And it was OK.

[@okestgamer]

All I can ask for is for it to turn out ok, and I can call it a day

[@gamers-generation]

@@okestgamer "That's OKest with me!" - Carl

[@TheVampirePredator]

$1200?!

[@okestgamer]

What? Where did you get that price from? It’s 1339 😆. Depends on the model you get. The one I have is the 370, 32gb 1tb

[@TheVampirePredator]

@@okestgamer Google

[@okestgamer]

@@TheVampirePredator ah check their website, that's where the actual prices are

[@elasmojones]

battery less than 2 hours at 15w is rather abysmal.

[@okestgamer]

It’s the results of the majority of handhelds except the ones with at least 65wh batteries. I’m working on a performance based battery test where the ally x and onexfly target 60fps in cyberpunk with very low settings and FSR/frame gen enabled. See how efficient they can get.

[@acek1605]

Not bad 👍👌

[@okestgamer]

Glad you enjoyed it.

[@kenrickbaughman992]

I feel like I wasted all that cash on the Lenovo Legion Go, the sound quality sucks!!! But after some research, cleaning up hard drive and unwanted apps it's actually a good handheld ONLY if you pickup a really good battery bank. I will more and likely sell it and pickup this new handheld device. Good review

[@okestgamer]

Thanks, yeah the Go is decent but speakers are lacking for sure

[@chrisgatlin5832]

oxplayer pro is better but cost twice as much rog ally x is $800

[@okestgamer]

Not quite twice, but about $570 more than ally x. It’s more a new chip that will outperform the older Z1E. It’s a good preview of what to expect from the ally 2

[@Anthony1102www]

Hmmmm i wonder how do i play more than half an hour

[@okestgamer]

At any TDP you would like. Maxed out will last just over an hour

[@hk6926]

Ally X is shitting itself lol

[@okestgamer]

its still decent, but hard to pit a chip much newer against an older one and expect any different tbh.

[@aceace4200]

msi claw 8 has better fps

[@okestgamer]

It's actually shown to perform a little below the AI 370. I'm hoping to get one of those to test and compare. I anticipate very close results though

[@davec7641]

The OneXfly has OLED though. After using OLED I have a hard time going back to LCD. Maybe the Claw 9 will have OLED, then it will be interesting.

[@Yusei255]

Legion GO is still better

[@okestgamer]

Glad you’re enjoying the Go, do you own both of these devices?

[@Yusei255]

@okestgamer does get expensive though, that's why I tend to limit myself with these. Cos it adds up in time, and is not a cheap hobby collecting them, without selling either.

[@okestgamer]

yeah that's true, i tend to keep them due to the channel

[@rept1le]

Looks likely ally x

[@okestgamer]

Likely ally x in which way?

[@stratoshd9043]

48 wh battery faaaail

[@okestgamer]

It's not bad if you target a certain fps target. Would not do as well as ally x but would be closer I think

[@DaveTheeMan-wj2nk]

that switch 2 is gonna come out with that new shiny Nvidia chip. All these junk windows hand helds are gonna be absolutely WOOPED.

[@okestgamer]

I'm doubtful of that if it's a performance standpoint. Sales definitely

[@DaveTheeMan-wj2nk]

@@okestgamer I wouldn't be so sure. based off of what we know it was running the Matrix Demo at a very nice frame rate. This is Nvidia afterall. I think it's going to absolutely just embarrass these Windows hand helds both in performance and price. I really do. Based off of the leaked specs if they are true, it's not even going to be close. But we'll see!

[@okestgamer]

Alright it's time for a bet. Loser has to buy a round of beer or coffee for their friends. Winner can brag lol

[@DaveTheeMan-wj2nk]

@@okestgamer Deal. I'll keep my word too! If it's stronger, I get a coffee, and if you win? Either for you :) See you back here when it comes out!

[@JB-tp6uj]

@@DaveTheeMan-wj2nk You're going to lose that bet. Nintendo has historically never pushed hardware specs. The last time they had the best hardware was in the 90s and even that is debatable. Unlike the other companies, they are always looking to make a profit from hardware sales and they can't do that trying to be at the forefront of tech. With that said, the Switch 2 will outsell these handhelds easily on name value alone. It doesn't need top of the line specs.

[@drizzith0]

Price: $$$$$$$$$$🤡🫁🫀🧠

[@DosBlade]

cute click bait.. yeah that's what they said "ONEXPLAYER Official - Best Performing Handheld Game". Facts.. its not worth the price.

[@okestgamer]

Why thank you! Felt cute today, might delete later 😉