Only murders in the building season 4 mid season fan comments & theories

[@krisdunphy1073]

Forgive me if this was already mentioned - I think Sazz is alive BUT didn’t fake her death. She is being held captive by the perpetrators.

[@NerdsAtNite]

This has not been mentioned but it’s def something I’ve thought about a time or two here and there but I like it cause it could still fit within the narrative of the story

[@usuitakumi4210]

This is my favourite theory discussion video yet. SUBSCRIBED !!! In light of episode 6 where they find that one mysterious hidden camera, it is highly likely Sazz was putting on a performance to fool the person watching. Glenn could be the person that helped her murder seem real. It's all coming together so perfectly ! I kinda understand the time thing, that would mean Bev's phone just corrected itself to the time zone she was in. It doesn't stay in the time zone it was in, it converts it to the place the person is in. Calling Matt and Jess white chicken is so sad XD Please keep making more of this format of video !!!!

[@NerdsAtNite]

Thank you so much so glad you enjoyed the vid And omg yes that’s it!! That makes so much sense! She still has her phone She’s in hiding from the person watching the group to try to get them to come out of hiding This makes sense! I want to ponder on it more but I do like this theory! And yes you got it about the time zone! And hahah no shade to them either food comes in many different flavors And will do thank you for this awesome comment!!

[@usuitakumi4210]

@@NerdsAtNite You're welcomeee. YES, Exactly. Sazz is playing 4D chess right now to help with the bigger picture manipulator. True true, love Matt and Jess and their comfy vibe. Looking forward to more of these types of videos and you're welcome !!!

[@NerdsAtNite]

@@usuitakumi4210 wow if that’s true then dang job well done! And still to this day they are the first ones I watch, them two paved the way so that I could do this. Them and double p media influenced me a lot so I did something in the middle! So glad you enjoy these and I’ll keep em coming!

[@usuitakumi4210]

@NerdsAtNite thanks 😊 Yeah Double P Media is on a whole other level, like dayum. Looking forward to more of your theory videos too 😍

[@RobinMoonshine]

- Bev was at a gala: but Mable was getting multiple emails from her that night. Who emails from a gala? - Check out the story in the newspaper below the Jonk (sp?) article. - Additionally read the Jonk article - in the last few scenes Loretta’s character is in full body bandages. Means she doesn’t have to be there. - Loretta is somehow involved for sure. - In the scene by the elevator in the penthouse, Bev walks in with a giant sunset coloured water jug (or cylinder container) and just leaves it on the credenza. What is that? - The rolling rack that the doorman brings in - that’s how they got the body in and out (in a suit bag that Charles is missing) - The voice mail was spliced - “sure I’ll get out the splicer” - and strategically played to Bev’s phone

[@RobinMoonshine]

Sorry spliced together from Sazz’s little documentary. Has anyone done a word overlay?

[@RobinMoonshine]

Look deeper at the clothes on the rack Lester brings in.

[@RobinMoonshine]

The tinsel is the remainder of magnesium ribbon that wasn’t properly cleaned and therefore didn’t burn. Whoever was in the Dudenoff apartment is in pyro stuff - maybe special effects.

[@RobinMoonshine]

Maybe special effects on the New Orleans Burn Units given that it’s a fire-oriented show. And Loretta was in a full body cast for the last few episodes.

[@RobinMoonshine]

The burning of magnesium ribbon is often referred to as a “DAZZLING white light.” It leaves behind a white residue of magnesium oxide. But it has to be pre cleaned or it doesn’t burn.

[@chasesmith4273]

Someone said something that stuck out to me earlier in the season. “You only get rid of the body if you’ve killed the wrong person and you don’t want the right person to catch on” How would the killer know they killed the wrong person from the West Tower if Sazz is Charles’ double? The two killer theory implies that they always intended to clean up so Sazz may have been the true target?

[@NerdsAtNite]

Jan said that and good point That means there was already an intended hit that was going to happen and killers were in motion despite Sazz being there or not

[@RobinMoonshine]

I definitely think Charles was the original target for exactly the reasons you stated. I don’t think the west and east are sealed off - same way the windows aren’t sealed. But that’s a great point - how did they know they got the wrong person? It was dark. The lights were off the entire time. How did they know it wasn’t Charles? Only if they had gone to the party or were told over ham radio by someone at the party that he was still there? Talking about small grapes?

[@RobinMoonshine]

Or someone who was at the party remotely. OP brings up a great point and the odd thing that always stood out to me was the text from Joy that “Scott Bakula says hi” It’s an odd text to send at the best of times but in this context feels more like someone taping on your shoulder with revenge Also double checked - one of the 3 asks Sazz how she got into the after party and she says “who knows maybe I made a copy of all your keys like I said who. Knows.”

[@NerdsAtNite]

@@RobinMoonshine unless they took the shot then went over to clean up only to realize it wasn’t Charles And Joy was def trying to jab at Charles with that text And yes Sazz had keys to everyone’s apt You kill Sazz you can now have access to everyone’s apt

[@RobinMoonshine]

@@NerdsAtNite come over to clean up and risk being caught?

[@dan_2584]

Great review again sir! I heard someone said in an interview the missing questions for multiple seasons (like who poisoned Winnie) will be resolved.

[@NerdsAtNite]

That will be an exciting day when that happens

[@filmerdude24]

AWWWW THANK YOU FOR THE SHOUTOUT! ☺️💚☺️💚 After episode 7, I'm now thinking Doreen is the victim and Howard might be the master mastermind

[@NerdsAtNite]

You’re welcome my man🙌❤️🔥! Your channel deserves way big views! I hope we can collab at the end of this season! Check your insta I left you a message there

[@NerdsAtNite]

Ooohh Doreen as the victim would be interesting and them having Howard being the villain this season would be interesting esp after how much he has helped the crew I do think next season he was gonna be the big bad but if they do it this season I’d be with it

[@RobinMoonshine]

I also thought it was odd that Mabel and Charles stopped next to an Asian assistant when they looked up to see Marshall in the penthouse. And he looked like he was afraid that they’d already discovered or clued in on something. I’m still really stuck on the contents of the newspaper article about Jack Jonk and that Loretta’s character is spending some time in a full body bandage which means she doesn’t have to be on set. Sorry for all the comments. I clearly just found my tribe. 😂

[@NerdsAtNite]

Bring on all the comments you are welcome here! And yea that’s an interesting point cause he looked super shocked and get this if I remember correctly the footprint on the tacky paper they take a picture of is a right foot and Marshall got his right foot stuck And I really need to revisit that article cause that’s interesting about Loretta cause she’s still suspicious to me

[@cheri7054]

Howard is so lovable. Yes, he's odd at times but I can't imagine he's a killer.

[@NerdsAtNite]

I don’t want to but it could happen

[@cheri7054]

@@NerdsAtNite I'm certain he's innocent. Let's bet on this one

[@NerdsAtNite]

@@cheri7054 this season super innocent The last season whenever that is … that’s a bet I’d take

[@ThePinkPurples]

I’m discombobalated too! lol This is my show I love it so much

[@NerdsAtNite]

We’re all discombobalated lol such a great show!

[@krisdunphy1073]

There is also a thing where only “good guys” can hold iPhones on film. I learned that from knives out.

[@NerdsAtNite]

Yea I heard rian johnson mention before

[@krisdunphy1073]

@@NerdsAtNiteoops - didn’t scroll low enough!

[@peggy7744]

The Brothers' boots absolutely do not match the print on the tacky mat, you're right - for the reason you said, but also because the Brothers boots are cleated (the deep lines/square teeth on the sole around the circles). They would not leave that impression which has a sort of border around the sole of the shoe, they'd leave one with thick lines going left-right across the print. I don't know if this is just a production error or what, but the shoe used to make the tacky mat impression is low/no heel (hence the small gap between where the foot meets the heel) and smooth on the bottom except for the circles and a border around the edge. Kind of like mens' dress shoes.

[@NerdsAtNite]

Love this 🙌 Also notice the tip The slight pointed roundness indicative of a more man style dress shoe Great call out right here

[@peggy7744]

@@NerdsAtNite 100% on that 👍

[@diannalocke997]

I keep thinking about how far along the production of the movie was before the three found out about it. Did Sazz produce the script? Who helped her? How could the movie get so far without the three knowing about it? It's like their life is in a movie and they don't realize they are the leading characters.

[@NerdsAtNite]

Yea it feels like everything was in motion behind the scenes and all the movie was waiting on was signatures for the next step Sazz had connections in Hollywood but it has to be someone we met that was her connection to this movie

[@psiloveyou1964]

​@@NerdsAtNiteI'm sure it'll turn out wrong, but if Cinda appears this season...I'm going to be sure she's somehow involved in this. Remember when she got a call in her office( when the trio was there), & she told them she's getting millions( I can't remember why, but she didn't say who was on the call). She knew a Helga, too(massage with Helga was written twice on her calendar). From the start, I got Cinda vibes from Bev with her mannerisms, etc...could they be related?Cinda offered Mabel a lot of money to work for her. I don't think Mabel trusts her, & I don't either, lol.

[@NerdsAtNite]

@@psiloveyou1964 ohh it’s a long shot but I’m right there with you in suspecting her if she shows up

[@Carlitty]

About the timeline: The trio was at Oliver's since the beginning of the party. That's why Charles gets surprised with Sazz arrival. Charles: How'd you get in here? Sazz: Who knows? Have I made copies of all your keys? Like I said... Who knows? Sazz arrives when the party is over. The guests have left. The trio stays at Oliver's. The glasses and plates have the remains of the party. They have 9-10 minutes to finish the podcast.

[@NerdsAtNite]

So is 9-10 mins enough time to clear the party and do the podcast? As some one that’s had many a party that’s def not enough time

[@Carlitty]

@@NerdsAtNite I don't think they clean up. They get in "Oliver's office", and just record the episode finale.

[@NerdsAtNite]

@@Carlitty I don’t mean clean up I mean kicking everyone out that can take a few more minutes than 9 so say it took 3-4 mins to kick people out they still need to set up podcast stuff 2-3 mins and you still have to record? Still not enough time

[@Carlitty]

@@NerdsAtNite The guests had left when Sazz arrived.

[@NerdsAtNite]

@@Carlitty Sazz brought beers to party with no guests? And Howard says where is Charles after Sazz got shot? People were still there

[@psiloveyou1964]

Not only who's scratched out in the picture, but who took the picture.

[@NerdsAtNite]

Another great question

[@RobinMoonshine]

@@psiloveyou1964 how did the daughter know Charles had brittle bones?

[@NerdsAtNite]

Yea that comment thru me off I’ve been suspicious of her since that episode

[@marketas7824]

@@RobinMoonshine it could be a huge clue or she’s just saying he’s old, because it’s normal as person ages his bones lose vitamins and weaken which causes them to fracture quite easily

[@tmtb80]

I think the person scratched out looks like Loretta

[@mu77]

In the shooting scene, you will see off center someone holding Bev's large water bottle. The one she left after getting off the elevator.

[@NerdsAtNite]

Oh wow I’m gonna rewatch that scene to look out for that

[@laurabaughmiller4413]

Duetenoff (or Marshall )hid the cameras to create their own movie. Why does Duenoff have luggage in the basement if he knows he's going to take pills & become a crispy critter.The Yard Dogs & Detective Williams wife are involved somehow. Maybe Williams inadvertently. There are so many pot holes. It was hilarious when the fan club discussed the plot holes & Marv said pass the holes (donut holes) Grover the therapist heard something being shoveled above his apartment. I think it's multiple killers. It has also bothered me that I don't recognize all of the people in the end credit building mural windows too. Pinkeye is highly contagious Marv puts his eye in Duenoff's camera. Why haven't the other bestie caught Pinkeye after touching all the same cards.

[@NerdsAtNite]

Lots of unanswered questions I don’t think are getting answered in two episode I def think it’s multiple people in on this murder

[@117Derek]

Great to see you shout-out to other folks like Matt & Jess and the woman from Portugal. There’s also “Becca” who is really fun, and “Scene Invaders.” They all have interesting takes on OMITB. That said: I still don’t buy your conclusion that Bev was sent the voicemail from Sazz at 11:07 p.m. NYC time. We’ll just have to wait & see who’s right. In answer to “why” would the Sazz stage her death, if she was alone? Because the West Tower folks were watching-but have not admitted it yet. But, I’m def with you on Marshall…he’s definitely sus. He stole Sazz’ script. But, Marshall attempt on Sazz may not be related to the Main Case. Your Best Comment: “Sipping some sippies.” ❤❤❤ P.S.- Appreciate your shout outs to some of my fav films: Vantage Point, Evil Under the Sun, Murder on the Orient Express, Talented Mr. Ripley [movie version], et al.

[@NerdsAtNite]

Yea I’m like you and everybody in the comments I’m a fan first I watch all of them and every episode they all help me open my mind to something else I never thought about. Funny you bring up scene invaders I heard you shouted out on last weeks episode lol Totally ok if you’re not buying what I’m selling cause the explanation is correct you switch your phone to a new time zone all the messages change to the new time zone However, that time can not it can not be right like to create a 12 minute window No! I refuse to believe that time is accurate There’s some fudgery going on here! And yes again there had to be a witness if it’s faked which means yes we have some one or a group of someone’s who saw something good catch. Interesting that Marshalls attempt may be a separate issue I’ll have to ponder on that. And haha that’s something I always say when referring to an adult beverage Sipping on some sippies lol And yes my man I love those movies all fun murder mysteries and important to know because if you know elements of those stories it can help you crack a case to a different story

[@117Derek]

@@NerdsAtNite I can’t wait to see how tonight/tomorrow’s episode of OMITB relates to the great 1966 film “Blow Up.” A movie about a photographer who may have IMAGINED a murder. It might resolve the whole is-Sazz-dead theory.

[@NerdsAtNite]

@@117Derek ohhh yea that will be interesting to see what the connection is?

[@diannalocke997]

I keep thinking it has to be someone who has been in the building for a long time. Who has a grudge against all three? Who can silently go about the building without anyone getting suspicious? I keep thinking about Uma. She wasn't happy that the cameras were being installed throughout the building. Could she be helping someone or did she see something? She was angry about Bunny getting killed and she can't take things without being caught. This was an excellent episode. I knew someone was watching them because Sazz's phone would also respond when they were asking questions about Sazz so they would think she was still alive. I believe Marshall is involved some how and the west wing people are too! Was Dudenoff filming people for years without them knowing and someone found out about it and killed him? So many questions... can't wait to find out the answers! Could Dudenoff be Dickie's father?

[@NerdsAtNite]

Yea such a great episode And I walked away with more questions than answers Someone in the comments said maybe Loretta was in dudenoffs class and yea may be dickies father That would be wild Honestly I pondered if dect williams is actually in on it Cause you’re right it has to be someone with a lot of knowledge of the people and the building Marshall is def still one of my top suspects as well

[@Lana-oz7np]

I just rewatched the trailer, and it looks like Loretta is going to go to Melissa McCarthys house and then the actors will investigate something to do with the westies. The westies are def bad. I don’t think it’ll take five episodes to figure out who did it.. it’s coming up soon! There’s just so many people now every time I think I’m onto something I’m like oh but what about that. 🤔 I think the westies did something but both people I’m not sure, but Jan and Saz kept saying someone wanted Charles, and either Jan is involved or is going to help. How did saz know all that stuff about the westies though? Maybe dudenoff??? Note Was saz wondering what happened to him? How long has he been gone?

[@NerdsAtNite]

I do think Jan ends up helping at the last minute, and yea there are so many twists and turns with suspects in this season its wild! One of the westies is def involved. Sazz couldve been friends with Dudenoff, it looks like he used to be a stunt guy, hence the metal joints. That and or she found out about there business on the ham radios and they didnt know she was listening. I think Sazz went looking for him last time she was in town.

[@Lana-oz7np]

@@NerdsAtNite yes maybe they were plotting to do something to Charles or the rest of the trio on the movie and saz knew? Whoever it was I mean

[@NerdsAtNite]

Yea thats what im thinking, this makes sense why all of her notes are back at her home in LA, she was writing stuff down there as she heard it on her radio

[@cheri7054]

Who is most likely to have Saz's phone? Jan? They were lovers and could have helped her escape from prison. Could also be that Chiropractor. Saz could have left the phone at the place where her last picture was taken.

[@NerdsAtNite]

Dr Maggie is still high on my list for sure I think Jan is out looking for who may have killed Jan And I think she’s the person who gets killed and leads us into season 5

[@chasesmith4273]

Fun fact: Paul Rudd actually wanted to redub his Irish accent after this because he ended up doing a movie where he needed an Irish dialect so he learned how to do it better then realized how bad he did it in OMITB, but they wouldn’t let him cause they didn’t have time lol

[@NerdsAtNite]

Haha yea I heard that on the only murders podcast that was a fun tid bit

[@jonathan4-h3m]

Even if bev did not see Mabel she still acted weird and her voice was higher in the shed and talking to Mabel and it was a bit lower talking to Oliver

[@NerdsAtNite]

We need to keep an eye on her for acting so weird

[@jonathan4-h3m]

Who do you think it is that killed sazz

[@NerdsAtNite]

@@jonathan4-h3m Marshall and Maggie are top of my list lotretta too after tonight

[@dugferd2266]

I think Marshal is/was a female too. In his monologue, he references Ace Ventura whose plot features a gender switch to a new identity. He also can't grow facial hair. And he compares his stand up comedy style to Jonathan Winters and Ali Wong (a bit unusual for a male to emulate a female comedian). That along with Glen's confusion when seeing him with Charles and Oliver calling her lassie because he knows Mabel, a female, is their associate, but the familiarity of Marshal's face having seen him as a woman in the past gets his mind all jumbled.

[@NerdsAtNite]

Einhorn is finkle!! Finkle is Einhorn! Yea this could very much be the case and it’s set up well with some good clues that could point to that I did think the Ali Wong comment was a little head scratching but to each their own But that comment with everything else could point to him not always being a man

[@summonerfraco3603]

A Charles lookalike gets shot. An Oliver lookalike gets shot. Mabel or Eva might be next.

[@NerdsAtNite]

I was thinking the same thing They both better watch out

[@animalsrcute5762]

I'm here from movie files 👍

[@NerdsAtNite]

Oh dope love Elliot he’s a great guy we’ve collab’d in the past he does solid work! welcome!

[@animalsrcute5762]

@NerdsAtNite I'm new to your show but I've been watching all ur only murders videos. Really enjoy your work.

[@NerdsAtNite]

@ thank you very much! I’m very glad you enjoyed them! Hope you hang til season 5 drops gonna be the same fun ride all over again 🙌

[@jaclynhilliard8877]

Could it be instead of tap in she wrote taping like filming?? I have so many theories but i cant get past if sazz is alive or dead.. so idk . And the clothing rack? I think they used tunnels..

[@jaclynhilliard8877]

I think this is more movie production involved.. idk if Sazz wrote script and it was to find her "killer" .. I just think this movie is bigger than we know

[@NerdsAtNite]

Taping would work Just like why is it written on two lines Tap In(g) That’s kinda funky Yea I’m still up in the air with her death The clothing rack makes sense to move heavy stuff And we see it in the montage of Oliver and Zach I think you’re right this is bigger than we are led to believe

[@jaclynhilliard8877]

@@NerdsAtNite thanks cuz my brain doesn't stop and I love all the podsters cuz you all get into it so good!! I love the theories!! Your right it is 2 lines but I think there is more to it.. idk if Sazz is dead or alive to begin w then they r actively making a movie before they even signed their rights away, so something is up there... Why was Bev melon in shed w lights out and a gun and then all the sudden we find out there is electric when she turns the light on!! I didn't get that at all... I wonder if I forget his ex gf kid played w that Anna westie too and they know tunnels to west too.. I get w the clothing rack carrying heavy things and it sure would make sense if thats how it happened but idt so I think there were 2 or 3 ppl that did this (still questioning if she is dead 😂) I know it looks like a bullet hole from outside but I bet something is up w that cuz why shoot across courtyard when there is somebody already in Charles apt!! That nobody has said there r tunnels above and that makes 2 in Charles apt and they think he safe there!! Is Lester a good guy?? We don't know who wrote note to fix window... He would know they were in LA and everybody that comes and goes thru that door... I also don't think they spent enough time in Sazz (Charles) la apt and u just heard somebody and things clanging or dropping but they kept doing their thing??? What??? Who was it?? It's weird Sazz got shot in Charles NYC apt when Charles sublet his LA apt to her!! 🤔🤔🤔 Idk it may all b red herrings and I rambled about stuff I could think of, I'm sure I forgot the most important parts!! 💙

[@jaclynhilliard8877]

Oh ya w tunnels above didnt a tenant say they always heard stuff in ceiling.. well I think she heard the kids or something going back and forth.. they need to explore tunnels more too

[@NerdsAtNite]

@@jaclynhilliard8877 all of your theories and the tunnels needs to be explained further Is Sazz dead or not I still don’t even know and yes who ordered the window fix Would have to be someone back in the east coast while our crew went to La but who? And how does Bev fit in? Given we have more questions than answers we need more info

[@Carlitty]

No way they'll find DNA at the incinerator: ashes don't contain DNA.

[@yanna477]

building on the Sazz is not dead but held captive, another resident was murdered and incinerated, and it took place simultaneously as Sazz was shot. So all attention is focused on Sazz and not the other victim.

[@NerdsAtNite]

Love this theory Now the question is who was is and why?

[@RobinMoonshine]

The parts from Bulgaria are probably difficult to source. Has anyone double checked if they’re the same ones in the incinerator as the ones in the photos?

[@NerdsAtNite]

@@RobinMoonshine so parts usually have a serial number and all the fbi needs to to match it medical record to see if it was sazzs or not. Some of the parts from the photos look right but I would need to do a compare and contrast from the xrays in episode 1 to the parts laid out in episode 2

[@zainan94]

So, if Sazz is alive, which I think is the case, we have no murder. We may as well change the name of the show 😂

[@NerdsAtNite]

Almost murders in the building 😂😂😂

[@cheri7054]

You made me laugh when you said maybe Saz isn't dead but they just moved her. Maybe held captive

[@NerdsAtNite]

lol just throwing crazy ideas out there as I answer everyone’s questions

[@xoxojadieeet]

Read a theory somewhere that the whole thing is staged and they’re filming a live movie. I actually kinda like the theory. Could mean Saz was shot for the movie and that’s why we saw it. Don’t know if the fbi is really investigating tho, maybe they’re actors too 😋

[@mu77]

Why was the FBI called in in the first place?

[@joyb.2339]

I’ve been leaning toward this just for shits and giggles. Maybe nypd was “kicked off the case” in an attempt to not waste actual police resources . The only thing that’s bugging me is if the fbi agents are actors , why has no one fact checked anything . Either way this theory is fun , bc how cool would that be !

[@jaclynhilliard8877]

@@xoxojadieeet I think production was already in that building up and down for pre production shots what if they were in preproduction and Sazz was in on it and the whole death shot happened on camera.... I think certain parts r gonna b production and Charles mind

[@dugferd2266]

There's a tiny 4 written in one of the slots for names on the golf score card.

[@NerdsAtNite]

Good catch!!

[@cheri7054]

The truth of the matter is that there are so many unknown things that aren't being told. Did the shot gun come from the Westie area? This that and the other, are such missing pieces. Why didn't the trio investigate strange noises? What's going on with the FBI investigation. What's up with Loretta and that Jonk guy. Too many others to mention. My guess is we won't know until to end of the season

[@NerdsAtNite]

You’re right we have a lot of missing information and no glue to connect all the pieces just yet Def by the end of the season we will get the tie ups but my guess is by episode 8 and 9 we will get clues that gives us the answers and I think as a community we can solve it before the end

[@918JenniferH]

Maybe Marsall has a twin sister? I looked into the actor, Jin Ha, & he played Song Liling in Madame Butterfly. That character was a man who disguised himself as a woman. I think there is something to Marsall either having a female twin, or pretending to be female, or being a female pretending to be male. If Marsall worked in league with Glen as a female, but hoped the beard would disguise him as a male, he now knows Glen recognized him anyway. So I'm thinking either Glen shot Marsall or vice versa, and that meeting in the hallway led to that. I have also thought there could be 3 killers. Since the Brothers sisters were introduced by Bev as identical twins, but obviously are not, could Marsall be a triplet & have 2 sisters? I definitely thing Marsall is involved, or connected, to something more. In the opening , when Charles was watching the western, we see a character trap a buzzing fly with a gun barrel on the wall. In Hollywood, Marsall says he's just a fly on the wall. Check out Jin Ha in Madame Butterfly: kzbin.info/www/bejne/infVdIeleL-Lf6Msi=APrso9Ixpxm7kLWO

[@NerdsAtNite]

I def think glen or Marshall is shot and or is involved in all this Even more with all this you shared That’s an interesting connection with the literal fly on the wall to what Marshall says too says too cause yea could drive home the point the fly will be caught

[@918JenniferH]

​@NerdsAtNite And I was thinking, Marshall tripping & falling off that sticky mat...reminded me of fly paper. 😂

[@NerdsAtNite]

@@918JenniferH ohhh like the fly is caught!!

[@918JenniferH]

​@NerdsAtNite And, when Mabel & Charles were walking around the sisters' apt while Charles tried to record with his phone, there's a man eating a sandwich who strongly resembles Clive Owen. I think someone may have commented about it here. This is probably just an Easter Egg, but Clive was the lead in the same production of Madame Butterfly that Jin Ha was in.

[@NerdsAtNite]

@@918JenniferH yea someone pointed it out in last weeks episode but how funny the connection to Madame butterfly

[@matthew393]

Because of closed captioning we know that at the end of episode 5 that a crew member shouts 'gun!" and Howard says "they've been shot". This means two people have been shot.

[@NerdsAtNite]

Or And this could be the case They is used just as a word to live it ambiguous as to who got shot The shows of really leaving us in a place to not narrow it down as easy

[@Jinxed222]

@@NerdsAtNiteit could just be that Howard is gay and aware of pronouns too. Charles made a funny comment about using the he pronoun for convenience when describing the murder sequence.

[@NerdsAtNite]

@@Jinxed222 also could’ve happened

[@joyb.2339]

Im still watching , but im currently at the time zone part . Thank youuu for explaining the location services and time zone thing , bc its been grinding my gears hearing ppl talk about this 3 hr gap 😭 . It’s not a mistake that the show made , it’s literally an iPhone thing and honestly I think most phones in general are equipped with location services

[@NerdsAtNite]

You’re welcome People don’t travel I guess? Thats the only way I could see how they wouldn’t know that But it felt like a pretty easy smart phone explanation

[@117Derek]

@@NerdsAtNite You guys "may" be right--but, you could also be wrong. The iPhone DOES change time zones when you/it travel from one location (like California) to another (like NY). HOWEVER, the VoiceMail left by Sazz (calling from NY) to Bev's iPhone (in California) registered the time & location of the RECEIVING (Bev) iPhone. When Bev showed the iPhone to the Trio at Sazz' Stunt Person camp, she tells the Trio "I saved the Voicemail" and shows her phone to the Trio (and us). The iPhone Display reads "11:07 p.m." AND, it also displays the words "Los Angeles, California." Bev was showing the iPhone to the Trio in NJ. So, again, what we are seeing is a SAVED voicemail. [Re-watch the scene.] Bottom line: My money is still riding on the call being made to Bev, voicemail recorded, and saved from NYC at 2:07 a.m. If I'm proven wrong, I'll say "Mea Culpa" and Five "Hail Marys." LOL.

[@NerdsAtNite]

@@117Derek I hear you I do but get ready to say your prayers Derek lol The time zone this is real on your phone you can test it by turning off your location settings and then changing the time zone in your phone to a different time zone and you’ll see the change However was the voicemail altered I could buy that

[@cheri7054]

Actually I was thinking about getting a new iphone. Use 2 different phones. One for work and the other for personal stuff. Zack having a second phone doesn't mean he's up to no good,

[@NerdsAtNite]

Don’t do that or I’ll suspect you of killing Sazz lol

[@cheri7054]

@@NerdsAtNite LOL You should be suspicious of me. I could be guilty of something.

[@NerdsAtNite]

@@cheri7054 😂😂 I’m adding you to the suspect board lol

[@cheri7054]

@@NerdsAtNite LOL!!!! I done it but what did I do?? Cheat or steal maybe. LOL I don't hurt flies or do I hmmmmm

[@NerdsAtNite]

@@cheri7054 we’re gonna add up the clues to figure out that case next 😂

[@laurynharper7571]

Another thing that could be missing is the bullet. We know that they found the bullet casing but what about the bullet

[@NerdsAtNite]

The casing feels more and more planted and the bullet had to have struck something It caused the window to break I mean from what we know it hit sazz What we don’t know if it actually hit her or maybe she was wearing stunt man gear to take the bullet Idk I’m just trying to think of all the paths that the show could be going rn

[@laurynharper7571]

Or….something that I was thinking that’s VERY FAR FETCHED…what if someone shot Dudenoff (accidentally or on purpose) in his left shoulder with the implant and it ricocheted into Charles apartment and his Sazz….again very FAR FETCHED 😂 but someone would still have to get into Charles apt and move Sazz’s body and Dudenoff would probably be alive. Yeah I’m just thinking about every scenario I could think of too. Some super ridiculous 😂

[@NerdsAtNite]

@@laurynharper7571 haha sometimes the most farfetched answers where dots connect are the right ones

[@Lana-oz7np]

And this is a little far out there but at one moment I thought what if Jan was involved with a westie like dudenoff or something? Idk why then why leave her a note

[@NerdsAtNite]

That’s an interesting thought That could be true And the note could be cause she was dating Charles and it was more of a threat to him

[@ifyousayso2011]

regarding the time line: don't they mention (while doing the podcast at Martin Short's place) that the party was several hours earlier?

[@NerdsAtNite]

Maybe? I’ll need to double check that

[@Dei_Chi]

I have a hunch that Marshall used to be a woman, that’s why he is unable to grow a beard, he feels like an impostor and the reason why Glen called him a “lassie.”

[@NerdsAtNite]

Could be I know it’s a cultural thing that certain Asian men have trouble growing facial hair so could be that too But I mean if it ends up being a sex change thing then atleast there is some kind of set up

[@Dei_Chi]

@@NerdsAtNite Yes, it’s true that some Asian men do have trouble growing facial hair. However, so many hints about gender from the latest episode. Another thing that I noticed are the “Boys Locker Room” & “Girls Locker Room” signs that were placed at the very front of the camera when the trio found Bev in Sazz’ rundown cottage. They were too conveniently placed.

[@cheri7054]

I meant that the stars were gone when the gun wet off. Saw Mabel, Charles, Oliver and lots of stand bys but no stars were in that scene

[@NerdsAtNite]

I mean Eva and Eugene were gone but Zach was right behind Mabel taking pics with Oliver I even slowed down the scene to Zach was still there

[@cheri7054]

@@NerdsAtNite Ok, but I wonder what that gun shot means. Maybe it's a movie ploy or someone is messing with the trio or the stars. We'll see what happens

[@NerdsAtNite]

@@cheri7054 maybe cause yea who would shoot on an open set like that? It’s asking to be caught Unless you’re in a damn good hiding spot? If it’s all a staged thing then they got us all good

[@jaykaye594]

Apple are crazy protective of their products, to such an extent, they refuse to allow their phones to be used by evil/bad/killer characters in any media.

[@NerdsAtNite]

Yea I heard Rian Johnson mention that so then that eliminates Bev from the equation

[@RobinMoonshine]

Tin foil hat theory - what if Charles was the target and Sazz was somehow involved but it all went wrong? VERY far fetched.

[@NerdsAtNite]

I’m ok with that cause that potentially ties a lot of suspects to the murder and makes it an angry hit gone wrong hence all the clean up and cover up and trying to get Charles out of town to replace the window

[@Lana-oz7np]

It has to be someone who has been doing this since season one, someone who would want to film them in the first place, someone who is sending the texts and writing the notes. And I can’t figure out who out of all of them would be doing all of that or why.

[@NerdsAtNite]

I think were looking a people in the east tower when it couldve been someone in the west tower all along

[@Dei_Chi]

I have a hunch that Marshall used to be a woman, that’s why he is unable to grow a beard and he feels like an impostor.

[@jaclynhilliard8877]

@@Dei_Chi I really have to go back and watch all the seasons again it's 20 hours, I binged 1-3 and I forget half the things that happened .. I think we have seen the writer before whether man or woman.. I think maybe we have seen killer but don't know the real or fake identity... When he said lass to him and did he grow a beard had me immediately thinking that he knew marshall.. idt glen even knew Mabel's name to answer back or whatever.. so many red herrings idk how the last 5 will go

[@cheri7054]

Episode 6 wasn't that funny. I kinda had a feeling the trio would all be targets. The Detective again talked about Jan. I think she's after the trio. We all know she knows how to use a gun. She knows about the tunnels. Maybe she has a gun and that's where the gun shot is coming from.

[@NerdsAtNite]

Maybe Jan is after the killer/ killers

[@cheri7054]

@@NerdsAtNite Why was one of the directors in an orange jump suit. Is that foreshadowing that she’s in prison?

[@NerdsAtNite]

@@cheri7054 I think it might be like an artsy way of indicating someone ends up there by the end of the season

[@lucyc3681]

Hi! I’m here about episode 6! Just wanted to comment something that I’m not seeing people talk about that much, I think something important in this chapter is when they go up to the meeting, there is a guy that crashes into Howard and then goes to help Marshal when he drops the papers. I think they kind of look alike, actually I thought it was him without the beard the when he crashes. So idk but I think that wouldn’t be there just because, and since we have a twin thing going on ??? Idk

[@NerdsAtNite]

I read that on Reddit yesterday and I’m still pondering about It would and could work cause one twin could be in La doing the comedy bit The other could be in NY committing the crime One twin could be eye balling the crew at the photo shoot The other is the shooter aiming for Glen for recognizing the other one The big question would be what was the motivation to kill Sazz? Over a script? Over intellectual property? I feel like there’s a motivation we’re unaware of that is stronger than that.

[@lucyc3681]

@@NerdsAtNite exactly, I don’t know the reasons yet, but they showed us that for a reason and with the whole twin thing it has to be important… maybe his double ??? And he knows Sazz form the bar and overheard something she knew about the whole movie/Dudenoff thing and that’s why they killed her and targeted Ben as well, they are going after the stunt dobles!

[@NerdsAtNite]

@@lucyc3681 that could be it or very close to what the reveal is

[@kathylynn1375]

you didnt continue with the number 4... 4 pieces of fruit on the table and odd 4 pieces of fruit in charles bathroom????

[@NerdsAtNite]

4 sections on the new murder board Yea I just gave a few examples to give people an idea of what to look out for but yea 4 pops up a lot!

[@cheri7054]

In episode 6 I was dizzy watching the show due to all the angles used.

[@NerdsAtNite]

Yes so much motion and hand held shots

[@Omgtheykilledkenny007]

When and how did Saz get the chance to read the script?

[@NerdsAtNite]

A big question we need an answer to

[@RobinMoonshine]

Did anyone look into all the lingo that Howard picked up on set? Comtex. Gobo tweeny up and over. I’ve learned to pay attention to the boring/annoying stuff.

[@NerdsAtNite]

I didn’t pick up on that but yea it’s always the minor things that become the biggest of clues