Only one COD game gets this right

[@Settiis]

MW2 Remastered not getting multiplayer was a crime against humanity.

[@grph1t3z]

Pointless, you clown

[@Lemoonah]

That and Special Ops as well

[@blaniac6591]

Oh I already knew these developers were stupid but now I suppose they're just flat out retarded.

[@blaniac6591]

Oh I already knew these developers were stupid but now I suppose they're just flat out retarded.

[@markplayer2618]

@@Lemoonahwell you can have them on PC with mods

[@Nerfhalo1]

The one contractor they hired for the mw2 remaster that actually owned a shotgun:

[@courier6739]

Most shotguns aren't like that, the SPAS-12 is just quirky like that

[@austinslaughter319]

​@@courier6739, Literally all pump action shotguns are like that, you missed the point of the video entirely. The point of the video, was that there is no shotgun round in the chamber upon reload, meaning you either have to wrap the shotgun, or put around in the chamber, otherwise it doesn't f****** fire. Doesn't matter for talking about spass, a Mossberg 500, Remington 870, doesn't matter if it's a Benelli m4, hell it doesn't even matter if it's a pump action, because the same thing applies to semi-auto shotguns, the AA-12, and lever action shotguns. There's not around in the chamber, nothing happens when you pull the trigger.

[@courier6739]

@@austinslaughter319 No the point of the video was how the loading gate on the SPAS-12 is locked unless the bolt release is held, which most shotguns don't do. Pull the stick out of your ass if you don't know what the conversation is about.

[@ThuNguyen-eu5gm]

@@courier6739hi courier 6

[@martinarana9640]

I'm still wondering why CoD MW III guns reloads sounds like they are crushing plastic everytime a new mag/shell is inserted :T

[@ironcland1256]

Sledgehammer doing sh*tty work as always

[@DreamSniperGod]

@@ironcland1256or maybe infinity ward tho

[@Shingodzilla138Xbox]

explain how the peak animation and sound was instantly disintegrated as soon as 2020 started, because i think if the spas 12 was in 2019 cod mw it would have been beautiful

[@ironcland1256]

@@DreamSniperGod sledgehammer is in charge of MWIII developing time, Infinity ward made a better work on weapon animations and correct reloading sense, just look MW2019 weapons and some MWII weapons, compared to sledgehammer, yes, sledgehammer always make shitty cod games, and they are in a unbreakable streak

[@DreamSniperGod]

@@Shingodzilla138Xbox so… imagine if spas-12 was in mw19. That would’ve been wonderfully amazing and looking brilliant if spas-12 was added back in mw19 instead of mw23. But the only problem is. Is the gun is getting chamberred when it’s filled again instead of putting a shell in the ejection port before inserting 7 ammos at the same spot

[@tristansolso1920]

0:47 sounds like trying to crush plastic

[@mrbootystealer5712]

Sounds accurate if not exaggerated to real life when I loaded and shot a shotgun not a 1 to 1 sound but pretty close Game is ass tho

[@calebwilliams5819]

Everything sounds so nice then that nasty crunch yuck

[@raptors416]

ikr

[@gameragodzilla]

As a SPAS-12 owner myself, yeah, MW2 Remastered is the only Call of Duty with a fully accurate reload. Not only that, but they also reload the shotgun the way I prefer, which is holding the shotgun in my offhand, pressing into the bolt release with my support fingers, and loading shells with my strong hand. That's because if I get interrupted, I quickly reacquire a grip on the gun with my strong hand and fire, as opposed to flipping the shotgun back to my support hand, then reacquiring a firing grip if I flipped the shotgun onto my strong hand. I will say Cold War's SPAS-12 model looks the best (MWIII's SPAS-12 is another one of those airsoft, Chinese-knockoff models due to California law, and the MW2 Remastered SPAS-12 is faithful to the original which has an inaccurate picatinny rail on the top as well as being too thin). MWIII also does get some brownie points from me for depicting the mode switching accurately, and even having different sound effects to account for the bolt cycling in semi-auto (that's where the iconic "ping" sound comes from) that wouldn't be there in pump. So the ideal Call of Duty SPAS-12 would be Cold War's model with MW2 Remastered's reload animations and MWIII's mode switching and sound effects.

[@toufusoup]

It’s weird how Cold War just seems like the operator never fires the 8th round to avoid/save time on a proper reload lol. The “Sleight of Hand” reload for the Spas in MW’23 is also pretty similar to how the gun was reloaded 10 years ago but I’m unsure if that would count considering you sorta have to give it the benefit of the doubt

[@venommagnus]

The SoH reload also reuses animations from the Lockwood 680.

[@toufusoup]

@@venommagnusgotcha

[@JPDD2]

@@venommagnus this whole franchise and modern gaming just works off of reused anims and assets

[@SCA84]

It's actually surprising how accurately the guns are depicted in the MW2 Remaster.

[@Viper-dz2kw]

The MW remasters always blow my mind. It’s incredible how faithful they are to the originals without actually using any of the assets from the ogs

[@ghostquake86]

@@Viper-dz2kw Thats Raven Software at work for ya.

[@LateNightHalo]

The 2009 animation is still peak for me. I don’t care if it’s not realistic, the gun just felt smoother to use and the reload was more seamless looking. I hate the way the entire gun is flipped upside down in the remaster lol changes the “feel” of the gun. It went from being my favorite shotgun in MW2 to my least favorite in the remaster purely because of how much chunkier and stiffer the new animations made it feel

[@Cody1075]

The 2009 reload is actually correct too, if I remember correctly. The left hand moves down and could easily be pressing the button with the palm. 😉 (Been a long time watcher btw, love your vids) ❤️

[@ThatIsALakeSir]

@@Cody1075 nah he's just pressing on nothing.

[@zedus4042]

Honestly such a shame that they made such an inconsistent reloads for it in MWIII when it comes to real life accuracies because the animation visually is very fluid and polished just like all MWII/III animations. MW2 Remastered did the reload more accurately to real life Spas 12 but the animation definitely doesn't look as good but bit floaty.

[@HyperDarkmoon]

I thought cold wars sound for the spas was bad then you showed me mw2c lmao

[@venommagnus]

You should hear Black Ops Declassified's SPAS-12, the impact of the pellets hitting the environment is louder than the gun itself.

[@autisticgod3338]

@@venommagnus as someone who has owned a vita for years and played Black ops declassified a lot its always extremely weird to see anyone mention the game it feels like I imagined the game all those years until somebody mentions it once in a blue moon.

[@Aqua-]

I FUCKING LOVE MODERN WARFARE GUN MANUFACTURERS, THEY TOTALLY MAKE THINGS THAT FUNCTION AS SHOULD AND DONT BREAK THE LAWS OF LITERALLY EVERYTHING

[@tairo_420]

Honestly they were so close to getting it right in mw3, they had mostly everything, even the 2 different modes of fire, if only they got the reloading down, the double shell reload on an empty gun is pretty cool though

[@ColossalKaiju]

I don't think people understand how COD approaches weapons in their games now. They're not *trying* to replicate guns realistically, they're making their own *fictional* guns, heavily inspired by ones from real life, so they can have some more artistic freedom and also not have to worry about copyright. That's why weapons like the Reclaimer in MWIII are so much different from the real SPAS-12 from a design standpoint. It's not trying to be exactly like a SPAS-12, it's trying to be the COD Universe's *equivalent* of a SPAS-12.

[@σεα-ψ9ε]

The side button never gets pressed? Literally unplayable.

[@CruxG228]

I mean it is, for a game series now hyper-focused on how the guns worked thanks to MW2019. The reloads literally cannot work without the loading gate lock being pressed in. Is it game-breaking? No. Does it show a lack of care or quality about the weapon in question? Yes. It's just indicative of many things of MWIII and the latest games slipping in quality.

[@CodyBi]

​@@CruxG228 well it can since it depicts a fictional gun, that happens to resemble a spas 12 lol

[@joshwist556]

@@CruxG228It’s not unplayable, if you put more energy in bombing Activision or anything else than useless details in animations, maybe just maybe your COD bitching can end.

[@spookydonutghosthouse]

Yeah it is literally unplayable cuz if you don't hold the bolt release you can't reload the fucking gun so you'd be some idiot running around with an unloaded gun and probably the first to die on the battle field Hope this helps

[@spookydonutghosthouse]

​@@joshwist556 God forbid we don't like immersion breaking animations that break the immersion of the game

[@ruvgaming5527]

0:01 ah yes the half life shotgun my favorite

[@lylevillanueva8624]

"Shotgun...you complete me" - Nick

[@mrbubblestea]

Cold War got it right, and they still got it wrong. You never charge the gun after loading it.

[@KudoRedfox]

What if there's a 8th shell? Just for convenience

[@natecollins9331]

You Forgot one last thing here, the animation of SPAS-12 in MWIII (2023) When the gun in Semi Auto Mode and empties, the bolt somehow move forwards on itself and the operator pumps the shotgun (and just like the reload animation in the pump action mode, press the carrier latch and so on) as if the Shotgun in Semi Auto Doesnt have Lock Open Mechanism :V.

[@gameragodzilla]

You can actually see the bolt lock back very briefly in semi-auto, then immediately jump forward (almost like there's frames missing) to go back into the pump reload animation. Not only that, but the last shell ejects in semi-auto, only for another empty shell to eject when it does the reload in pump again. I'm almost under the impression that this was a bug, and there was supposed to be a semi-auto specific reload animation that glitched and ended up playing the pump mode reload instead. But then again, given this is MWIII, it's also probably just Activision Blizzard not giving SHG enough time to properly animate it.

[@ECcR0]

Cold war's reload was still weird because character holds weapon upside down with stock collapsed and still could manage to press the button making its fingers incredibly long

[@kingkazuma2239]

They've been getting LMG reloads wrong the entire time too. All the belt fed LMGs are racked first and then fed a new belt and immediately able to fire. Most LMGs are open bolt so the bolt has to be closed, fed a new belt, and then racked to load the first round. The only one to get it right so far is the 556 Icarus.

[@Takedownairsoft1]

Also spas can be pump action or semi auto, but it seems to usually be one or the other

[@uberschnilthegreat22]

This is the one thing MWIII 2023 actually features for the first time in the series

[@Ddhenhp]

The button is mostly called "Carrier Latch" not bolt release MW2009, MW2013 and Infinite Warfare has done it correct too

[@venommagnus]

Already talked about this in a different comment thread, neither of the OG MW games get the reload right, IW is a hard maybe since you don't really know for sure if he's palming the bolt release.

[@Ddhenhp]

@@venommagnus black men kissing

[@zmike9831]

let me get this straight, you have to hold down the gate release as you reload the tube of a spas-12? sounds like a bad design, but idk, i've only ever used mossberg 500 designs without a loading gate.

[@yonsetv5223]

2019 ruined gun animations lmao, gun nerds need everything to be picture perfect

[@batman7401]

Well yes, its call of duty, a game about combat and guns. Excuse me for wanting my battle/war game to have realistic sounding guns and realistic animations instead of corny overly animated unrealistic garbage like the old games

[@batman7401]

@@daylen11 brother theres a difference in wanting realistic aesthetics and realistic gameplay, why in the hell would someone want fake feeling, fake sounding guns in cod. Shi dumb as hell

[@batman7401]

@@daylen11 fake guns are NOT cooler gang😹 thats like saying i want fake cars in need for speed, hell na🙏🏽😭

[@batman7401]

@@catboy3471 “go play a milsim” for wanting realistic looking and sounding guns. You’re actually dumb bro, arguing against realistic gun sounds in cod is, again, like arguing for bad unrealistic car models and sounds in need for speed. Need for speed is an arcade racing game yet its still important to everyone thst the cars look and sound like the irl cars. Only you cod nostalgia fucks would call it “milsim” for wanting my guns to actually be cool and not some cringe low quality phone game shit

[@Chapis777]

@@batman7401 ????????????????????

[@extra-iceykanawaki2074]

Finally someone who explained about MW3 2023 spas reload

[@declangaming24]

On the MWIII spas 0:33 theres one hand holding the stock and 1 hand loading shells 0:47 here the operator flips the gun upside down and inserts 2 shells at a time then.pumps . The MWIII version also is the only one in the series to use both fire modes

[@thestørmcrier2024]

The thumb isn’t holding the release, but the other fingers are. Don’t some spas12 models have a release on both sides?

[@Welshmanshots]

Imma be honest i couldn't really see the difference between MW3 and MW2R but one thing that bothers me more than an inaccurate reload is the fact when you use different shell types so bolo shells are blue, when you expell the shell instead of being blue it's just red.

[@burninggames9587]

I need to know, is there a game out there where the pump action mode is used for nonlethal rounds that don’t create the force neccesary to rechamber the weapon in semi-auto mode like it was intended to be used for? It feels like every single one that has pump action just uses it for lethal rounds which is completely redundant when semi-auto is just better for that.

[@SDeezy11]

As someone who owns one the best way is to have the stock unfolded. Flip it upside down and hold the bolt release with your right thumb and then use your left to put shells in

[@sampletext5215]

Maybe the new one is a future spas that doesn't need to have the button held down bc I feel like that would be very annoying having to do that to reload

[@ghostsimonAnimatesSortOf]

I like how you just don't move the pump at all in cold war

[@ghosttoast8610]

You can shoot the spaz in semi auto not just pump action

[@IndoGunsnGear]

I've shot the spas-12 before, it was one of the most confusing guns I've shot in my life

[@EvieCorwell]

It's shite. Literally no advantages over the Benelli M3.

[@gameragodzilla]

It has the controls of both a pump and auto shotgun at the same time, so nearly twice the buttons. You may think a pump shotgun and semi-auto shotgun would mostly share controls, but they actually don't. Only the trigger, safety, and tube loading would be similar, and even then, the SPAS-12 is an older semi-auto where you have to hold down the bolt release to load (a lot of older semi-auto shotguns functioned this way, but this was resolved with newer designs that came in the mid to late 1980's). Once you understand which button corresponds with which, it's really not that difficult as long as you've fired both types of shotguns at some point in your life, but it will be buttfucking confusing at first due to the sheer number of controls.

[@calebwilliams5819]

​@@EvieCorwellfalse Terminator 2 made it look cool 😎😅

[@qualm17]

The Spas 12 is semi-auto by default. It can be converted to pump, but the main purpose of that feature is for law enforcement to shoot underpowered rounds like bean bag rounds that don't have enough power to cycle the action in semi-auto mode. If you are firing full power shells on pump mode you are wasting your time. They may have gotten the reload animation correct in 1 game but they get everything else wrong.

[@taketoo908]

the thing that makes me the most mad about the spas (as a trrepang2 player) is that it feels like a toy. it does damage, but in appearance and sound it just lacks crunch and power.

[@iamheavyweaponsguy2831]

My problem with the newer COD guns is that they just all feel way too light and fragile... They feel like you could snap them in half and toss them around like a plastic toy rather than the older COD games where they actually feel like they're made out of metal with all those parts inside. The new ones just feel like hollow plastic shells.

[@MerchantrRe4]

They did it, it took 'em 15 years, but they finally did it.

[@nialltealeaf275]

When Beenox and Treyarch care more than Sledgehammer.

[@StarCenturion]

I forgot MW2 remaster existed. I'm still sad it never got multiplayer. :(

[@pexxarts5629]

Cold Wars graphics are clean asf, what were people on when they were saying it was bad...

[@fpslifelegacy6902]

Weird, I remember that the MW3 operator used to put one in the chamber then do the double shell reload.

[@nicholaschau2463]

call me clueless about this shotgun, but can somebody explain what the player character is actually doing on 0:44-0:46? because it looks really weird he never loaded the shell into the chamber like what is shown on 1:08 first before loading the new ones into the mag tube(while holding the bolt release like what is shown on mw2 remastered), and instead he is just moving the pump here and there for i don't know what reason.

[@Lazy_ness]

his thumb is RIGHT THERE, i would assume that's an easy fix

[@venommagnus]

They could literally just move the thumb a mere inch just so it's actually holding down on the button.

[@EvieCorwell]

​@@venommagnusThey would also need to fix the unnecessary switching the fire mode to pump and make it so the player's hand doesn't clip through the stock when the stock is folded.

[@spidiccus8561]

But do any of these FEEL as good as the spas12 in bo1/bo2?

[@ninjauser3808]

Even GTA Online also got the reload right as well with the combat shotgun

[@carterturk1420]

they didn’t know shit about the spas unlock button, it just happened to be how the reload was modeled because there is 0 round chambering animation on the empty reload, CW when it came to realization sucked

[@DreamSniperGod]

Somehow even cod remaster games are even better than reboot, bruh💀

[@frazfrazfrazfraz]

I mean, literally all they had to do for the remaster was visuals and a few quirks so obviously they could make it better. Although, in spite of that, many of the cutscenes are animated badly and look worse than the 2009 original, like when soap hands price the 1911 back but he's animated like a rubber toy in the remaster

[@DreamSniperGod]

@@frazfrazfrazfraz ohh… So, You’re saying that mw2 remastered is worse than og. That’s what I am expecting for it. Even some lmg in mw2r were wrong and looked worse than OG mw2. I know cause I watched m4sked video. He shows the reload animation of mw2 vs mw2r

[@Spiderdoom-hg3iy]

the reason cod "gets guns wrong" is for 2 reasons 1. Gameplay consistency, the point is not to make a gun simulator, it's to make guns that make sense within the game's sandbox 2. Licensing. They need to change the guns slightly nowadays to avoid getting sued by gun manufacturers, which is also why they use fake names. the devs know what they're doing, they probably know about all the shit people point out, but that's just not the point of cod. if a game like squad or ready or not gets a gun wrong, that's an issue that they'd release an update for, because that's part of the game, but cod is a yearly multiplayer arcade shooter, nothing more, nothing less.

[@Flashy47]

The only hype for the spas in MW2023 was that the operator double loads instead of that overused single loading technique. And also a semi/pump feature. If only the thumb was on that button

[@SeanGlasgow-q4o]

Don’t wanna ruin the fun, but technically the mw2 remastered reload is not completely accurate, the operator would never be pumping the shotgun. The spas 12 has the ability to fire semi automatic and pump action, but the pump action feature was only added to the real thing so that breaching rounds, which had a lower powder load and couldn’t cycle the gun, could manually be rechambered. If they are using standard buckshot or slugs, there would be no point in not just using semi automatic. (Sorry for the nerd dump, lol)

[@ApophisNow_]

one thing i've disliked about the modern cods games (besides the obvious reasons) is that when they make the reload sounds; everything needs to be audio. From the plastic of the buckshot touching the gun to the patted fingered gloves. Too much sfx. Keep it simple, it's like audio overload. Not the best way to describe it, ik. It's the best way I can.

[@venommagnus]

@@ApophisNow_ I definitely see your point, the STG in MWIII especially has an audio overload problem.

[@troypowers750]

I'm still left dumbfounded that MW2 got their guns done better than any COD in recent years.

[@phororaquejr]

Bro, there's no SPAS-12 in MW III, it's JAK FTAC BOOMSTICK BUCKHUNT 13

[@majora919]

Literally the only correct one, it even has the stock down, good luck shooting it properly with the stock up like in other cods

[@fpsftw]

Except MW2CR also gets it wrong, the bolt catch engages in pump mode on empty with the real thing, and your character does not press it to release the pump after loading a round into the chamber

[@LAV-25A2_56]

I don't think the SPAS-12 operator pressed on the bolt release button but instead pumped the shell into the chamber.

[@jared.p240]

You can actually press the button while it's in pump mode. The recoil spring will just push the breech block and pump back into battery

[@MitsurugiR]

Because Raven are the absolute goats

[@mikedawolf95]

Also MW2 OG actually used the folding stock as a stock

[@alvincampo5811]

I guess technically og mw2 did it right but when the fov is extended it doesn’t look like the lower palm is pressing the carrier latch button

[@joshuapillo1234]

animations nice though

[@MrRodrigues520]

Since some CODs do not use licensed guns, some animation will be different

[@TheOz91]

There are two things I can't stand about guns in video games, and it's not just CoD: Firstly, when you use a pump shotgun, there is no need to pump the action other than going straight back and keeping the gun shouldered. Secondly, bolt action rifles. Why is there a need to get off the scope (out of ADS) when cycling the action? This might be a bit justified since there are guns with long action bolts and guns that have bolt handles sticking straight out (think the Mosin Nagant and the 1898 Mauser). With a long action, you may need to get your face out of the way, necessitating you get off the sights at least. With a straight out bolt handle, you may not have the leverage to unlock the action and extract the spent case, so you might need to lower the gun where you can do it. This does not justify things in most cases. Even in hunting, it is recommended that the action is cycled immediately after every shot because there might be a need to get the gun to bear again (like in the case of one shot did not kill that dear or the need to take down a charging animal). If you say "balance," well, they balance the automatic guns just fine. The true speed of a bolt action depends in haste depends on the length of the action, bolt throw, and a few subtle things, so there are still small differences between them so there is no actual need to add superfluous movements.

[@calebwilliams5819]

The bolt thing is for gameplay reasons.. if people could stay looking down the sights they would abuse it's also why we hardly ever get a decent semi automatic sniper rifle.

[@TheOz91]

@@calebwilliams5819 I disagree. Games like Red Orchestra and then Rising Storm 2 have great bolt action mechanics. The later Sniper Ghost Warrior also keeps ADS with bolt rifles. The balance here is that using bolt guns would mean a much longer time between shots compared to having a semi auto; a bolt action is slower than a pump and a lever action. There is also that the gun would move when the action is being worked. Do it right, then semi autos would still be preferred, mainly for follow up shots. And some would prefer bolt actions a bit better accuracy.

[@danielc.7173]

OG mw2. Back when they actually gave a shit.

[@Unknown47859]

Is everybody still going to ignore the fact that you CAN'T AIM WITH THE STOCK FOLDED??!! God damnit, why people still insist...

[@neemojenkins881]

I think Spas 12 is a cool shotgun but with VERY COMPLICATED ways of reloading the gun, like Striker with its crank lever.

[@jared.p240]

It's actually simple. You reload it like any other tube-fed self-loading shotgun. 1. Gun runs dry, therefore breech block locks open 2. Insert shell into the ejection port and press the breech block release to chamber the shell 3. Load more shells into the tube via the loading gate The SPAS-12 just has the additional step of holding down the breech block release in order to open the loading gate

[@neemojenkins881]

@@jared.p240 should i press and hold both of the buttons (like pinching) or just one?

[@jared.p240]

@@neemojenkins881 Just one. The button on the left hand side of the gun is the breech block release and that's the one you must hold down in order to load shells. The other button, the one on the right hand side of the gun(underneath the ejection port) is just a tube-cutoff button and what it does is essentially just prevent the tube from feeding shells into the gun when you hold the button down

[@neemojenkins881]

@@jared.p240 i don't understand the part "prevent the tube feeding shell thing"*sigh* i guess i stick with benelli m2 and m4

[@jared.p240]

@@neemojenkins881 The button has a little tab that, when the button is pressed, blocks the shell from moving into the gun

[@GunrunnerTactical]

Spas 12 has a pump and semi automatic action

[@EvieCorwell]

Finally somebody stops drooling over that horrible SPAS-12 in MW III. It's shite, all of it. I mean, good god, with the stock folded the player's hand clips through it on the empty reload.

[@SpriteSodium]

what operator is he using in mw3?

[@venommagnus]

@@SpriteSodium Blueprint

[@SpriteSodium]

thanks

[@landonmckinley6250]

If they base weapons off of real life why would they not just follow real life reloads? Not saying take 45 seconds to fully reload, but at least get the animations close

[@LawrenceACD]

Bo1's spas 12 is more realistic than mw3 lol

[@fictionforeternity8926]

I mean the whatchamacallit looks like third world knock off spas 12 so it probably works different you don’t know

[@SOULEATERHILLS]

Why is it cold war of all cod games that got the spas 12 right? Isn't cold war literally screwing up all the guns? That comes as a serious surprise.

[@JPDD2]

well technically it's not the SPAS, so it doesn't matter... that's what the devs will say at least :/

[@TRG_R17]

Your description is very confused on the cod games

[@venommagnus]

??

[@toufusoup]

@@venommagnus(KZbin thinks it’s MW19)

[@venommagnus]

@@toufusoup Gotcha, I didn't know what he was referring to at first.

[@TRG_R17]

​​@@venommagnusSorry for confusing you

[@ImRobin07]

That's just KZbin for ya, their automated thing doesn't read accurately

[@alvincampo5811]

Og MW2 did it right as well

[@Chasm65]

Just another W for the OG Modern Warfare games

[@xxiSHTAr9000x]

Everything else aside, that is the ugliest Spas 12 I have ever seen. The heat shield looks like it’s been thrown together with soft grey plastic, and the stock looks like a sheet metal crank. Not to mention that the back pad indents downward like a Super 90 stock, instead of being a square block like the real version.

[@anti-tryhard]

To be fair the MWIII gun technically isn't a Spas-12, so it could fuction very differently compared to the actual Spas

[@venommagnus]

@@MACARONIEMANIAC Not to mention the Scorpion EVO in MWIII actually had its real name displayed in the early campaign gameplay reveal.

[@dorhinj]

​@@venommagnusomg i thought i was the only one who still remembers that

[@abcd-x5s]

Mw2 remastered also has correct name.

[@vedolre]

(call me a smartass on firearms if i have something wrong with my statement) On 0:33, Has someone in the comments mentioned there was a combat bolt release for the SPAS-12? It might not be necessary to hold down the release button during the loading process... Just smack it and you probably could load it with ease. 0:46 funny clipping hand through the stock. Not so realistic anyways. Should'ved depicted with a solid, skeletal or unfolded(namely removed) stock but AAA devs don't give a shit about clipping in their games.

[@venommagnus]

The combat bolt release works like the normal bolt release, it's larger so the user can grab it faster.

[@takoshihitsamaru4675]

Without even watching the video, lemme guess, 2019's MW? Because it's the single best Call of Duty ever made and before Cold War and CoD HQ ruined it, the damn game was nigh-flawless. Edit: Now I'm very curious to see if it did indeed get that detail right also. Was there even a Spas in that game? If there was, I am 200% positive that Hyper did it justice.

[@FerrariF1Seb05Fan]

Honestly what the hell with all of that MW2019 fanboyism? First of all, you write this without even remembering if MW2019 has a SPAS-12 or no, and in reality, no, MW2019 doesn't even have a SPAS-12 so your comment gets completely rekt by that single fact only. Secondly, Hyper isn't the only animator at IW so if the weapon existed in the game the animations for it could've been made by anyone. And third, as much as impressive MW2019 looks with it's indeed good graphics and with it's excessive screen shaking and the Parkinson's reloads, no, it's not the best CoD ever, it has nowhere near the fun older titles had. People think MW2019 is the best because of it's fake realism, all it has is just spectacular visuals to appeal the players.

[@takoshihitsamaru4675]

@@FerrariF1Seb05Fan That's some serious anger you have there, my friend. Show me on the doll where 2019 touched/hurt you. Yeah, no shit IW has more than one animator, ya fuckin' spaz (see "Spaz" as in Spastic, not "Spas" as in Spas 12). And yes, the game I last played in 2021 indeed does contain finer elements that can slip my mind. So I admit, I misremembered based on a pretty well-founded bias that this game had very, very impressive attention to detail and a good degree of research into the real-life firearms that the weapon roster was based on. And nah, while nothing beats the nostalgia of classic CoD, this and the Black Ops games came mighty close. Tons of fond memories playing BO3 online. Plenty of (albeit hazy) memories playing CoD4 too.

[@FerrariF1Seb05Fan]

@takoshihitsamaru4675 m8 I'm not angry, I just can't understand the blind fanboyism that people have towards MW2019. Like sure it was a step up of quality, at least visually, but until there. Reloads are just too fast and unnatural to tell them 'realistic', while sure, for gameplay reasons they do fit the fast paced gameplay of CoD which I don't argue. As I said, MW2019 is all about just visuals. Most people playing it have in mind about how awesome the game looks, how 'awesome' the reloads look and how awesome the excessive camera shaking is. And about gameplay, honestly, no, it doesn't get close to classic CoD, like the only modern CoD (since MW2019) that gets kinda closer to old titles gameplay wise is Cold War. And before you call me nostalgic, I was playing old titles till some time ago that I decided to give up any FPS or generally any game with violence. Also answer me this, since you supposedly know that IW doesn't have only Hyper as an animator, how you're 100% sure Hyper would do SPAS-12 if it was to be added in the game?

[@BONNIEE1983]

nah bro thats not a spas 12 thats a "RECLAIMER 18" real guns dont exist in cod no more its just like from AW to IW (cod sucks btw)

[@calebwilliams5819]

Really sucks California has such shit gun laws if the devs could just have a model of these weapons in front of them many of these issues wouldn't be here

[@revan9253]

Times when they did care

[@noboot6558]

The accurate reloads are so boring compared to the originals

[@cam4001]

you didn’t do bo1, mw3 (2012), or MW2 (2009)

[@ALX_6.11]

I only used reclaimer 18 on zombies, truly a lifesaver gun, it one shot T3 normal zombies with only epic+pap2 and slugs. I mean, the gun is a pile of garbage and useless shit, SHG if you read this don't nerf it.

[@korinostream]

Ily bro

[@tomato8933]

MW2 (2009) also gets this right

[@venommagnus]

It doesn't, the character's fingers are nowhere near the bolt release in the original game.

[@tomato8933]

@@venommagnus His palm is

[@venommagnus]

@@tomato8933 His palm is on nothing actually, since the bolt release is incorrectly located on the right side of the receiver and the left side (where the bolt release should be) has nothing there imgur.com/a/K5jfAZY

[@charger70s]

0:45 - 0:55

[@charger70s]

1:08 - 1:15

[@hpchappie346]

And BO2?? 😢

[@zReccify]

Cod cold warr

[@cmadw3150]

So is people gonna always cares about stupid details about guns that is in a video game or is people gonna actually don't give a crap about details in games anymore

[@altronbee1216]

does it really matter? this isnt a game trying to be realistic, and animation isn't easy. its not harming the quality of the game or the players experience if the gun isnt reloaded properly, if its a stratifying animation that pleases the eyes and ears than it did its job. yes it COULD be accurate but being accurate isnt important, its the FEEL of the animation. also yes it is reused animations, its more efficient in game development to reuse as many assets as possible while still being new content, like blueprint weapons or new guns reusing old/modified animations this isnt what we should be worrying about or even caring when it comes to COD.

[@tatzeta]

it's literally just showing the animations, no statements were made. who are you arguing with

[@altronbee1216]

@@tatzeta I probably should’ve commented this on one of his other videos where he actually bashes the animation for being “wrong” and seeing people just laying onto these animations and sounds in the comments just put sour taste in my mouth, there’s so many comments like “Oh these sounds are so bad!” Or “I can’t believe they reused animations” I’m paraphrasing but that’s what people are saying when it shouldn’t be something worth even arguing over. time and time again I see comments and videos going off about how they hate the new animation style and that it’s inaccurate or whatever. Idunoo where to go with this as I have a sort of unique perspective on this as an Animator its hard to articulate my feelings through a KZbin comment All I’m saying is, I’m peeved at videos be comments that provide mostly destructive criticism. I’d look for his videos on one of the new LMGs and a Beta animation that was left in game on accident. You’ll see what I’m talking about

[@NineHazes]

​@@altronbee1216 From, well, multiple personal observations, these people usually, well, *DON'T* make games, therefore, have no idea on how much work goes into and is needed into them. Like, there's a video that points this out in a rather comical manner (i.e. extremely oversimplified and inaccurate depiction of FPS making (import FPS game and graphics switches being options)).

[@venommagnus]

@@altronbee1216 Ah yes, the video where I called out SHG for adding a genuinely unique firearm to the game only to remove what makes said firearm unique in the first place. Like I've expressed many times before, there's no point in adding unique weapons if you are going to take away what makes that weapon unique, you're better off adding a different weapon entirely. And like I've also expressed many times before, allowing a blockout animation (the first stage of the animation process by the way) to be seen in a *open beta* that is *three weeks* away from the final release is not a good look no matter who you are. I always find it funny when these kind of comments are left on here when people like Munancho inc. are much more harsher on these games than I am. It's also worth noting that the MW reboot is the same sub-series that prided itself in attention to detail regarding the weapons with MW2019, only for MWII and III to suddenly toss that direction out of the window. Of course I'm going to complain when a franchise drifts off an established direction for the worse, I've seen it happen to my favorite franchises before (paging Dead Rising when the fourth game released). I had my complaints about MW2019 but the direction they took with the weapons was a huge positive and is something that should be celebrated, some FPS games can benefit from attention to detail more than you think, especially for players who like guns but live in counties with extremely strict gun laws. It may not impact the gameplay but it sure does make the game feel more immersive and alive.

[@spookydonutghosthouse]

K.

[@Papadop769]

Bo1 Spas 12 best

[@flickergooner]

It could be me but I think the inaccuracies could be because it’s a video game, just me though

[@CoreRealm]

It don't matter, critiques are critiques. And gun "nerds" Don't care, they only want good "real" weapon depiction in a fictional game in their fictional world

[@Kailioli]

Why does it matter

[@catboyrepublican2520]

Carrier latch button*

[@ErensSmiledog]

🤓

[@Visstnok]

One thing they get terribly wrong: SPAS-12 is not semi-automatic. I simply refuse to accept it.

[@venommagnus]

The SPAS-12 is able to switch between both semi and pump action, MWIII is the only COD that allows you to switch between both fire modes.

[@ianchoi7142]

I'm afraid you've got it terribly wrong.

[@Visstnok]

In my headcannon it's only pump. So you're both wrong, sorry.

[@ianchoi7142]

@@Visstnok so objectively wrong, I see.

[@EvieCorwell]

You're straight up not supposed to use the pump-action with high-pressure, lethal rounds.

[@williamwen3477]

Who cares about accurate? We only care for cool animations!! /s

[@venommagnus]

Accurate animations can also fall under the cool category.

[@johncarlofernandez2698]

LayzuhCatz spas animation is accurate and cool if you ignore the furry hands