Op Snap: Disqualification & big fines for drivers caught on camera

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Devon & Cornwall OPCC

Devon & Cornwall OPCC

Күн бұрын

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@alicelander9058
@alicelander9058 2 жыл бұрын
Most of these should have been banned shows how weak the courts have become
@thisisnumber0
@thisisnumber0 2 жыл бұрын
Good job your extremism isn't in the courts.
@michaelgoode9555
@michaelgoode9555 2 жыл бұрын
It shows how weak legislation is. The courts can only punish according to sentencing guidelines. That bunch of fascists who claim to be a democratic government for the people in Westminster are not at all interested. Law is something they prefer to ignore.
@tomwebb3081
@tomwebb3081 2 жыл бұрын
The courts hands are bound by the sentencing rules set by the Government.
@bobmiles1407
@bobmiles1407 Жыл бұрын
No deterrent then is there. No wonder it's like a race track .
@problemchild1976
@problemchild1976 Жыл бұрын
You wanna put every driving offence through the court system? FPN is good enough for most of these. But the driving is abysmal. Especially that mini. Wow!!
@rondameier8168
@rondameier8168 2 жыл бұрын
Those fines are absolutely stunningly stupid!!!! There were at least 3 of them that should've been disqualified, yet they all got fines under 200 💷 pounds 💷. That isn't going to deter a rock!!!
@HowtoMakeThings
@HowtoMakeThings 10 ай бұрын
What has Dwayne Johnson got to do with it? You can’t blame The Rock for everything!
@28YorkshireRose12
@28YorkshireRose12 2 жыл бұрын
I've twice fallen foul of other drivers' carelessness, and recklessness, and I support any police action like this. I have no sympathy for anyone who feels the full force of the law for their offences.
@learningpianoat61
@learningpianoat61 2 жыл бұрын
What 'action'? That old lady was nearly killed by a maniac and he gets a tiny fine and a couple of points. Does he have to ram her down and kill her before sensible action is taken against these idiots? Do you really think that these paltry 'fines' are gonna change bad behaviour? What a joke these self-aggrandizing cops are. Decades of policing and millions of pounds and the problem gets WQORSE! Pathetic.
@stephenmason5682
@stephenmason5682 2 жыл бұрын
So previous action by the Police didn't stop you getting offended by idiots?
@mhappy01
@mhappy01 2 жыл бұрын
So you are happy for there to be no Police on our roads, just a bunch of do gooders with cameras. It is the thin end of the wedge. We will become a nation of snitches playing into the hands of the State. Its ok that the police wont come out to an RTC unless someone is injured but its ok for them to report you for a video?
@trevorhoward7682
@trevorhoward7682 Жыл бұрын
Full force? Many magistrates and/or judges berate defendants and threaten to impose stiff sentences and then award sentences that are a fraction of the maximum permitted.
@kevinwilson598
@kevinwilson598 2 жыл бұрын
Seems strange that drivers who put people's lives in danger driving at high speed get a lesser fine than someone following a van through a red light
@hullygully1135
@hullygully1135 2 жыл бұрын
I do not know whether its due to the last 2 years of lockdown but, myself and others I have talked too seem to agree that people have been driving more dangerous and aggressive lately.
@SinkyYT
@SinkyYT 2 жыл бұрын
I'd blame the media for posting about people not being able to receive fines and getting off with warnings due to the police not being able to write and hand over tickets due to Covid.
@BlazeTruthTv
@BlazeTruthTv 2 жыл бұрын
I blame slow drivers
@garyodriscoll3009
@garyodriscoll3009 2 жыл бұрын
Yes they all gone nuts
@raybrown4845
@raybrown4845 2 жыл бұрын
That's totally 100% true. I've been a lorry driver for 32 years, seen more dangerous driving this last year than ever before.
@Kevin19700
@Kevin19700 2 жыл бұрын
It’s not just in the UK. It is terrible everywhere now. People are so frustrated about everything in their lives that they take it out on others whilst behind the wheel. I live in a small town in California. It seems the last two years people use stop signs as a mere suggestion 😏
@trevcam6892
@trevcam6892 2 жыл бұрын
Driving on the pavement, behind a car waiting at a junction and almost taking out an elderly person just "careless". How about attempted murder?
@michaelgoode9555
@michaelgoode9555 2 жыл бұрын
... attempted manslaughter. Attempted murder would never be able to be proven.
@johnmusgrave3179
@johnmusgrave3179 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing careless about it, that was clearly "dangerous driving" which is a much more serious offence.
@Bond2025
@Bond2025 9 ай бұрын
You need to look at the actual legal definition of what it is you think applies, then you will see it is not correct. A death is not always a murder or manslaughter. The CPS do not help much by insisting on mis-charging people in order to guarantee a plea bargain and the need for a trial in which the evidence would be flimsy or the person would be found not guilty. For example, a person defends themselves on a night out after an attack and the other person dies from the injuries caused. That person can not be charged with murder, it would be manslaughter. So the CPS know the jury might find the person not guilty of manslaughter and he will walk free or could agree to say he caused S18 Wounding. If it is in the public interest or someone has an agenda or axe to grind, they will mis-charge with murder and force the person to say they accept manslaughter just to get a conviction. I see mis-charging all the time, it is a waste of public money when CPS decides on cases based on how good they will look for the public and NOT on the actual facts and evidence in the cases.
@ukLeeham720
@ukLeeham720 2 жыл бұрын
Punishments need to be a LOT harsher
@cpuuk
@cpuuk 2 жыл бұрын
You would be surprised, Insurance take a dim view of Careless offences come renewal.
@learningpianoat61
@learningpianoat61 2 жыл бұрын
@@cpuuk Don't you have to HAVE insurance before a 'dim view' can be taken? These people don't care about you, your crappy little fines or anyone's 'dim view'. This is just a joke to them and actually, it's a joke for law abiding citizens to have to listen to you lot bleating about what a great job you do when NOTHING changes!
@chriskberks5471
@chriskberks5471 2 жыл бұрын
I completely agree. Interesting to note the largest fines were for not providing information. Those fines needed to be at least 10 times larger and driving bans, especially the mini mounting the kerb and nearly taking out an old lady.
@tilerman
@tilerman 2 жыл бұрын
@@chriskberks5471 My thoughts exactly. Mondeo gets banned with £800 fine whilst the lunatic in the blus mini gets a slapped wrist. Does not make any sense.
@richardclarkson3016
@richardclarkson3016 Жыл бұрын
The amount of the fines is pathetic. Clearly driving like that IS tolerated.
@cfhutgfre
@cfhutgfre 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent. So careless and dangerous driving and putting lives at risk gets you 3 points and a hundred quid fine. The same as doing 32mph in a 30mph zone.
@ManMang0
@ManMang0 2 жыл бұрын
Going over the speed limit is driving without care and dangerous while putting lives at risk so yeah makes sense. 32 or 34 or 47, where do you draw the line when left down to individuals interpretation of safe? I know where I draw the line and that's the speed limit, not hard.
@Dallas-Nyberg
@Dallas-Nyberg 2 жыл бұрын
A few days ago, my wife received a infringement notice in the mail for speeding.. it was picked up by a speed camera. Due to the fact that, during holiday periods, here in Australia, the fines and demerit points are doubled, she was fined $900, lost 6 of the twelve points and lost her license for three months. However, on checking the date of the infringement -(after she had paid the fine), she realized that our daughter had borrowed her car on that day. She went back and told the traffic authority that that was the case. Their answer?... "If you try to change it now, you will be arrested for lying in the first place and will face three months in jail". A day or so later, our daughter revealed that she was caught speeding two days before that, in her own car and was fined $900, lost 6 demerit points and her license for three months! I am now forced to be their chauffeur and I'm not very impressed.
@petersmith9530
@petersmith9530 2 жыл бұрын
Ur life sounds a lot like mine
@michaelrowles5065
@michaelrowles5065 2 жыл бұрын
Let them go by bus ,train of cyle
@MarekBobosik
@MarekBobosik 2 жыл бұрын
You didn't raise your daughter well then, good sir, did ya?
@briansymmes7917
@briansymmes7917 2 жыл бұрын
@Advanced Driving moral of the story is don’t get married and have kids.
@EugVR6
@EugVR6 2 жыл бұрын
Public transport or a push bike
@chrisslater3174
@chrisslater3174 Жыл бұрын
It's the disparity in punishment meted out by the D&C that shouldn't be tolerated, let alone the dangerous driving. 🤔
@michaelrowles5065
@michaelrowles5065 2 жыл бұрын
THIS IS INCREDIBLE THIS OPERATION HAS TO BE DONE PERMANENTLY AND IN EVERY PART OF THE UK THERE ARE MANY MANY DASHCAMS,LETS USE THEM AND GET THESE BAD DANGEROUS PEOPLE OFF THE ROADS
@problemchild1976
@problemchild1976 Жыл бұрын
It is - go to your local online page and report a crime - it's been there for years
@Bond2025
@Bond2025 9 ай бұрын
My local police will not accept anything like this as they're lazy, too lazy to investigate and just can't be bothered doing their jobs properly.
@studebaker4217
@studebaker4217 2 жыл бұрын
The title says "Dangerous Driving", but none of these offences were charged with that. It's used FAR TOO LITTLE for this kind of driving. Seems not giving information is deemed more serious than endangering others?
@sideshowbob5237
@sideshowbob5237 2 жыл бұрын
The first two got off far too lightly.
@shay8202
@shay8202 2 жыл бұрын
To send our snaps do we need to live in or around Devon and Cornwall? Or can we send the snaps if we say lived in london?
@AJ-yw5zy
@AJ-yw5zy 2 жыл бұрын
Well done, a force actively doing something about this. It’s needed & required to make things safe, how many accidents could’ve happened, all for the reason of getting there 30 seconds quicker.
@MRB0JANGLE5
@MRB0JANGLE5 2 жыл бұрын
No they aren't really doing anything about it , maybe making money on you tube. but the first two clips should have been bans....number two drives on two pavements and .just misses a pedestrian...gets 3pts. tha;ts not a driving mistake ..its being an arsehole. Anyway ...on to clip 3
@tomthompson7400
@tomthompson7400 2 жыл бұрын
Theres a guy at work who smells of foreign food a lot of the time ,,, and another whos in possession of an offensive wife , can they be reported too ??
@paulcollyer801
@paulcollyer801 2 жыл бұрын
Have you not been sacked yet, PC Savage??
@tomthompson7400
@tomthompson7400 2 жыл бұрын
@@paulcollyer801 Why do they keep arresting this man ,,, lol , well spotted. Wearing a loud shirt after the hours of darkness ,,,,
@paulwarner5674
@paulwarner5674 2 жыл бұрын
Do they not realise a car is a lethal weapon in the wrong hands. This video is frightening.
@RubyDashcamAcademy
@RubyDashcamAcademy 2 ай бұрын
Hello Devon & Cornwall OPCC. I would like to ask if I can feature your video "Op Snap: Disqualification & big fines for drivers caught on camera", and potentially some of your others as well, for my new episode of compilations on my social networks? Thanks in advance!
@IanDocherty335
@IanDocherty335 2 жыл бұрын
Most of the fines are pretty paltry, hardly a deterrent.
@Zeamus634
@Zeamus634 2 жыл бұрын
Why do the fines and costs differ so much for the same offense?
@bostonbikebits6539
@bostonbikebits6539 2 жыл бұрын
depends whether the drivers in question have undermined the courts authority or not by the looks of it. Two of the least dangerous pieces of driving seemed to get by far the heaviest fines and penalty points for not revealing the drivers identity.
@paulcollyer801
@paulcollyer801 2 жыл бұрын
I would surmise that, as the Fixed Penalty for all these offences is £100 & 3 points for pleading guilty, these went to court. The court will fine according to your pay scale, and can give higher or lower fines, and can also issue more points than standard if they feel it appropriate
@algernonwolfwhistle6351
@algernonwolfwhistle6351 2 жыл бұрын
The first two look like reckless driving not careless. Lucky to keep their licence.
@jamespower7479
@jamespower7479 Жыл бұрын
This is great . I would love to see a channel like this in the South Wales police region to show the effectiveness of Operation Snap here .👍
@ChaponaBike
@ChaponaBike Жыл бұрын
£100 fine a 3 penalty points for nearly running someone over? That’s hardly a deterrent. These drivers need disqualifying and the law changed to heavily penalise those that risk killing vulnerable road users.
@rogerbradbury9713
@rogerbradbury9713 2 жыл бұрын
How has this operation influenced the number of accidents in your area? As a motorcyclist I'm particularly vulnerable to the sort of driving you show here.
@Bond2025
@Bond2025 9 ай бұрын
As car drivers we are all at risk from cyclists who try to transfer responsibility for their own safety to everyone else - and those on motorbikes that NEVER stick to speed limit and cause their own accidents and deaths.
@lionelmarytravels6003
@lionelmarytravels6003 Жыл бұрын
I've had a dashcam for many years, but I've no idea how I can upload footage to the police. In fact, on the few occasions where I have submitted evidence, the (Wiltshire) police weren't interested.
@shamteal8614
@shamteal8614 2 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised at the level of low penalty for what looks almost suicidal and totally inconsiderate driving which threatened the lives of others. Having dealt with the families of loved ones killed by idiots like these, I'd throw the book at them till it hurt.
@tilerman
@tilerman 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, the blue mini for example. Confiscate the car and crush it i say.
@ahassen1236
@ahassen1236 Жыл бұрын
Some of the fines levied for life changing driving if an accident was to happen are lower than nice people get in private car parks for going a few minutes over their time!
@dannydee2668
@dannydee2668 2 жыл бұрын
Some of these fines aren't that much. If I was late for a flight to go on holiday I could be tempted to break a few rules, but luckily i don't fly anymore.
@tigertony2716
@tigertony2716 Жыл бұрын
The fines aren't big and most of these incidents aren't careless and inconsiderate but reckless and dangerous
@Harassed247
@Harassed247 2 жыл бұрын
Does this go for cycles too? How about these scooters that kids are using? Maybe cycles, scooters,mobility scooters should come with licence plates, so many times I see.dangerous manoeuvres from these people who have no road sense or consideration for other road users. Don’t just go after the cars,vans etc,go after all road users!
@paulcollyer801
@paulcollyer801 2 жыл бұрын
Re e-scooters, they’re technically mechanically propelled vehicles and Should have licences & insurance (as per the trials though licences are a sketchy point). Police Could confiscate (seize) the e-scooter and issue a ticket for no insurance; generally speaking though due to the rider most likely not having a helmet giving chase is a touchy subject. Re getting number plates for bikes, never gonna happen, too complicated and too costly to impliment
@problemchild1976
@problemchild1976 Жыл бұрын
I love how some of these drivers think that because they haven't been caught by a police officer, if they ignore it then it will go away ! Hahahaha
@gardeningdianne
@gardeningdianne Жыл бұрын
I wished they had this program in Australia. Some people drive as if the road rules do not apply to them. I also believe the penalties they received for some of the offenses were not high enough.
@johnmehaffey9953
@johnmehaffey9953 2 жыл бұрын
It’s time the police did their own job I don’t see them rushing into your place of work to help you out
@paulcollyer801
@paulcollyer801 2 жыл бұрын
Just remember that during the next round of public service cutbacks that result in fewer Police being available to deal with more problems spilling out on the streets. You Do realise there have been numerous times Police have had to respond to medical emergencies (not the Police’s job) due to a lack of ambulances? Over many decades, Mental Health services have been cut back, and people in Mental Health Crisis are often now dealt with (compassionately) by Police, as there is no available help for the unfortunate soul.
@MrTosha43
@MrTosha43 Жыл бұрын
Does every force have this facility to report to them?
@stephenrobbins7190
@stephenrobbins7190 Жыл бұрын
Break the speed limit accidentally by a few miles an hour on an empty road with a camera and automatically get fined £100 with 3 points. Drive recklessly, swerving around other vehicles and people, endangering lives, so that other motorists are so concerned they take the time and effort to report it, taking up police and court time, and get fined £100 with 3 points. I'm not condoning speeding but it seems to me there's something seriously wrong with our judicial system.
@SinkyYT
@SinkyYT 2 жыл бұрын
It's about time that cyclists were made to wear a hi-viz vest with a unique registration number on the back so they can also be prosecuted for their actions. Failure to wear one while cycling on public roads should be an offence.
@yangtse55
@yangtse55 2 жыл бұрын
Did a cyclist cut you up on the motorway ?
@nekogod
@nekogod 2 жыл бұрын
@@yangtse55 No but a cyclist has hit me when running a red light and cut me so bad I needed stitches.
@dndkillaztreble5317
@dndkillaztreble5317 2 жыл бұрын
@Nehemiah Scudder totaly irrelevant if a bike does less damage would a plane do more damage if it smashed into the ground? dosent mean cars or bicycles shouldn’t be registered just because they both do less damage then a truck or a large van. a bicycle can still kill injure and cause devastation when they hit pedestrians like a lot of children who do get ran over by cyclist who are unidentifiable and unaccounted it’s disgusting
@dndkillaztreble5317
@dndkillaztreble5317 2 жыл бұрын
@Nehemiah Scudder well are you afraid that as a cyclist you would no longer be the special little bitches that need protecting? Or you can step up be a real man and share the roads under the same codes and ethics as everybody else Get a car broke boy
@paulcollyer801
@paulcollyer801 2 жыл бұрын
Please, prey tell, how would this be initially enforced? Remember that e-scooters are not legal, and it’s hard enough for Police to even contemplate enforcing that??
@drdarren666
@drdarren666 2 жыл бұрын
Should be more videos like this
@nuttylivett2713
@nuttylivett2713 2 жыл бұрын
Unless your name is Katie price
@havok9001
@havok9001 2 жыл бұрын
i think half this drivers who drive like that sure have there license taken & put on a banned list for 10+ years & pay a bigger fine more then $1000 in towing, lot, court & etc fees
@eggyboy123
@eggyboy123 2 жыл бұрын
Punishments are not tough enough
@raithrover1976
@raithrover1976 Жыл бұрын
3 points for mounting the pavement at speed and narrowly missing an elderly person? Seems a bit lenient to me tbh.
@retroonhisbikes
@retroonhisbikes 2 жыл бұрын
The nexrbase portal is a big failure in hull, as our failing police force never respond to submitted videos.
@28YorkshireRose12
@28YorkshireRose12 2 жыл бұрын
That's a shame. Humberside Police jumped right on one that I felt compelled to report, about two years ago. The video is available to view here on KZbin.
@ian3073
@ian3073 2 жыл бұрын
Outright careless and dangerous driving is not a big priority for the courts. Look at the lenient fines and penalties. You get bigger fines for parking.
@kevinrayner5812
@kevinrayner5812 Жыл бұрын
High powered sports car dangerously overtakes oncoming traffic. Could have easily killed somebody. £40 fine and 4 points. Car drives slowly through a red traffic light £660 fine and 6 months ban. Do I assume the driver of the sports car was a magistrate or pal of the Chief Constable? May be a member of the funny handshake club.
@tilerman
@tilerman 2 жыл бұрын
So the Mondeo owner gets £800 fine and disqualified whilst the lunatic in the blue Mini gets a £250 fine and 6 points. At the very least the driver should have a £1k fine and her car crushed for driving like that. A dangerous menace.
@raybede
@raybede 2 жыл бұрын
I am unaware of the charge of careless and inconsiderate. At least two of these examples seemed to me to be 'Dangerous Driving' and one, endangering life. Am I wrong???
@keiko909
@keiko909 2 жыл бұрын
only 4 and 3 penalty points!? that was almost a head on collision and death by dangerous driving!
@andy1way
@andy1way 2 жыл бұрын
Good idea. But.... If the Law doesn't take it seriously these selfish, ignorant drivers won't either. Driving that endangers others by gross violation of the highway code should be called what it is "dangerous driving" with a compulsory ban of varying length. Repeat offence? Double length ban for every offence.
@lloydy1312
@lloydy1312 2 жыл бұрын
I agree some of those were definitely dangerous rather than careless. But good on Devon and Cornwall for implementing operation snap. Now this needs to be a permanent op countrywide. If people believe there's a chance of getting caught they may think twice.
@chunkymonkey55555
@chunkymonkey55555 2 жыл бұрын
I must admit, just using the Southampton Millbrook Bypass regularly, I have been grinded up many times by drivers hurtling past and cutting in. I have often wondered why the cameras don't do anything as the way they drive is really dangerous and reckless.
@stephenmason5682
@stephenmason5682 2 жыл бұрын
Trained on Xbox?
@1ns4ne1d10t
@1ns4ne1d10t 2 жыл бұрын
I use the Millbrook bypass and everything what you said happens every minute of every day of every hour. Its six lanes of wreckless driving that doesn't sleep. It's got to the point where I hate it now. It's the worst road in Southampton. The three lanes each side might aswell be lanes markings for touring car races. And the traffic lights might aswell be grand prix starter lights. I've never known any road to be as bad or come near the recklessness of Millbrook road.
@chunkymonkey55555
@chunkymonkey55555 2 жыл бұрын
@@1ns4ne1d10t Lol, I know one hour before my driving test, my driving instructor thought it would be a good idea to make me drive along it during near rush hour, this was in the days before the roundabouts had traffic lights... Yes what you have to do is, practice totally ignoring all the wankers around you,
@1ns4ne1d10t
@1ns4ne1d10t 2 жыл бұрын
@@chunkymonkey55555 Unfortunately Millbrook Road used to be my daily commute to Hythe and the Waterside for four years. Then after I left and started a new job in Portswood. Just when I thought I kissed goodbye to using that racetrack daily I got lumbered with driving the Van's through there to serve Totton, Ashurst, Cadnam, Lyndhurst. There have been times where it's been so particularly bad along there I've said f**k it and dropped the pedal to the metal and driven like a banshee myself. Sadly everytime I've driven like a banshee on steroids I've been heavily respected by the other traffic.
@chunkymonkey55555
@chunkymonkey55555 2 жыл бұрын
@@1ns4ne1d10t Lol, that's the amusing thing now though, you can't put your foot down as their is speed cameras :)
@Lonely_Goat
@Lonely_Goat Жыл бұрын
Do all police forces have this snap system? It is awesome and people will slowly begin to realise they can't get away with this poor standard. I could send 10 clips a week
@theinspector1023
@theinspector1023 2 жыл бұрын
The penalties are all over the place. Too much inconsistency. The lenient ones are too lenient.
@jeremycanning8934
@jeremycanning8934 2 жыл бұрын
Level crossing, you can't tell me that the camera car didn't jump the lights. Did you prosecute him/her
@joydivider42
@joydivider42 Жыл бұрын
anyone can see the fines and points are way too low... insurance companies should be contacted....two strikes and youre out... short of a ban points should be 6 or 9 and fines nearer 1000+ than 200 quid....until the police actually clamp down you can expect to see these videos till the end of time
@ceasarsalad119
@ceasarsalad119 2 жыл бұрын
What did the last driver do? I know it was a crossing and he should have stopped but he got 6 points.
@fredemny3304
@fredemny3304 Жыл бұрын
"Failed to provide information".
@dockerandy
@dockerandy 2 жыл бұрын
how can you tell if video footage has been tampered with ? i do a fair bit of editing and i could recreate footage to look worse than it is, then render it as a single video ! using the public's ' dash cam footage' is extremely risky.
@trevcam6892
@trevcam6892 2 жыл бұрын
If you are an expert editor then indicate the edited sections that you have seen in the videos.
@ningayeti
@ningayeti 2 жыл бұрын
He is not saying that THIS video is altered. He is suggesting that dashcam videos in general could be edited by nefarious scoundrels
@jaywalker3087
@jaywalker3087 2 жыл бұрын
I am an ex NHS Professional . I’m a car driver , motorcyclist , cyclist and pedestrian. Does anyone think that these tiny slap on the wrists deter dangerous drivers . Take seatbelts out and replace with 12 inch blade !!
@Jack.Mead96
@Jack.Mead96 Жыл бұрын
Exmouth is East Devon not South Devon.
@patrickwatters7555
@patrickwatters7555 9 ай бұрын
That mini got off lightly😮
@davidwaddington9414
@davidwaddington9414 Жыл бұрын
Penalty fines and points far too soft, 2-5 year bans minimum.
@BrownPeterAnthony
@BrownPeterAnthony 2 жыл бұрын
This is good, but need to quadruple the costs and points given out. Even take the vehicle and cancel licence.
@spanishpeaches2930
@spanishpeaches2930 2 жыл бұрын
Why did the guy get so punished for the red light offence ? His was the least dangerous.
@MarcoTheGreat2008
@MarcoTheGreat2008 2 жыл бұрын
It's for not showing up or identifying themself as the driver.
@mickp222
@mickp222 2 жыл бұрын
That traffic light was border line, we all know they change from green to Amber in a second and amber to ref just as quick. I have been driving for 60 years and an advanced driver, the time on the lights needs looking into. I have written to the Government but they do not reply.
@kramelbbiw
@kramelbbiw 2 жыл бұрын
@@mickp222 Hi Michael, In the UK, it's 3 seconds, plus or minus 0.25 seconds. See The Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions 2016 Schedule 14 Part 1 Paragraph 4 sections 3 and 4. I couldn't be bothered to find out what it was before. Probably the same?
@lloydy1312
@lloydy1312 2 жыл бұрын
@@mickp222 if you mean the silver car following the lorry then that was not borderline. They were moving slowly and The light was red before the car reached the line. They could have stopped easily which means either they didn't look at the lights or didn't care about the lights. Either way caught bang to rights.
@nickymatthews2465
@nickymatthews2465 2 жыл бұрын
If only America had a system like Op Snap. . .
@michaeltaylor8835
@michaeltaylor8835 17 күн бұрын
Not a single charge of reckless driving
@Bond2025
@Bond2025 9 ай бұрын
At 1:21 how could an unknown driver be disqualified from driving for 6months? You can fine the registered keeper for not providing information as to who was driving a vehicle at the time of an offence being committed, but you can't ban that person as you have no proof it was them and they will not say who it was. I know it probably was them, but that was a very stupid legal advisor directing a Magistrate.
@Graham196
@Graham196 4 ай бұрын
It is an offence not to disclose the identity of who driving at the time and the registered owner must provide those details within 28 days and it is a serious offence. It falls under the Road Traffic Act 1988 section 172. The penalty for failing to provide driver details is six points and a fine of up to £1,000. This is quite serious considering most minor motoring offences attract a penalty of less than six points. You may not have even been driving yet you could still receive six penalty points for failing to provide the relevant information to the police. So the registered owner would have already had at least 6 points on their licence already and the 6 points for this would have been suffice foe a disqualification.
@tomthompson7400
@tomthompson7400 2 жыл бұрын
was this information / videos provided from the public dash cams , or police dash cams . If its the police , well done . If its public , I dread to think of the knock on effects that could result from these postings , how long before someone is spotted on the offenders dash cam and battered to death , this self policing idea does not work far too open to exploitation / blackmail / bribery . This will go wrong.
@PeterBee911
@PeterBee911 2 жыл бұрын
If you wait until it's on a "police dashcam", those retards will never get caught and will potentially end up hurting someone. The only effect I'm seeing there is some dangerous people getting karma and the fact that they'll probably now think twice before pulling such moves. Road police is less and less present, the only option left is self-policing. And it's a really good thing that those public dashcams footages are received in court. I hope more countries will adopt it.
@pjay3028
@pjay3028 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, this is not acceptable. How do we know that people aren't deliberately goading and provoking other drivers into doing something stupid and then filming their reaction in order to get them fined. It's not the general public's job to act as vigilantes. And what about bias, will people seek out particular individuals in order to try to catch them doing something wrong? Or what if they happen to film a family member doing something wrong, would they submit that? Then there is the blackmail issue mentioned by the OP, which is a very good point. Plus, if this becomes widespread, the Police will reduce the resources they put into policing the roads even more and rely solely on this method. Completely ridiculous.
@PeterBee911
@PeterBee911 2 жыл бұрын
@@pjay3028 Yep, better let them hurt or kill someone on the road. I totally agree.
@pjay3028
@pjay3028 2 жыл бұрын
@Nehemiah Scudder that's so not the point here though. People should only be prosecuted based on evidence that has been collected in a fair, reasonable and consistent manner. That's exactly why the police have so many rules and regulations regarding the way they collect evidence and prepare their case for the CPS. And even they often fail to meet the required standards, meaning prosecutions have to be dropped. With this initiative they're basically ignoring all those standards and using any old video evidence, with no corroborating information, to proceed with prosecutions. It's pathetic. How would you feel if the police decided to follow you round every time you got in your car, filming everything you did and everywhere you went, ready to pounce on you as soon as you did something wrong? Yet, with this, if a private individual decided to do that to you, they could. And the police are actually encouraging it!
@pjay3028
@pjay3028 2 жыл бұрын
@Nehemiah Scudder it's a matter of consistency and equality for everyone. Why don't we get rid of the police and just have gangs of vigilantes? All the protections against police bias grew up over many years because people realised there were significant discrepancies in the way the police were behaving due to significant inconsistencies. If you sweep them away we'll be back to square one and things will just go wrong again. The problem with attitudes like yours is that you haven't learned from history and you just keep going round and round in circles repeating the same mistakes.
@stueymorris
@stueymorris 2 жыл бұрын
When did dangerous become inconsiderate?
@julianday
@julianday 2 жыл бұрын
Good, there are a lot out there who have the wrong attitude to drive a car and should never have been given a licence. There is no banned for life offence in this country but there should be.
@oddities-whatnot
@oddities-whatnot 6 ай бұрын
You don’t accidentally drive that badly. All deliberate and should have had bigger penalties.
@wurzelle1999
@wurzelle1999 2 жыл бұрын
Seems to be no consistency with fines and penalties. Maybe we don't have full story.
@100tallpaul
@100tallpaul 2 ай бұрын
Failed to provide information.... Yeah cos more like the actual driver had no insurance, no licence etc. Failure to provide information should be a straight 10 year ban. No exceptions. Same for no insurance.
@lookoutleo
@lookoutleo 2 жыл бұрын
Is their an equivalent for the West of Scotland for uploading videos of dangerous driving?
@delta7155
@delta7155 2 жыл бұрын
The road is a dangerous place at the best of times!
@stuartgrier5605
@stuartgrier5605 Жыл бұрын
these videos are mental. I wish Police Scotland had a similar scheme.
@wonkysfishingtales
@wonkysfishingtales 2 жыл бұрын
Just take their licence away, it’s not a right it’s a privilege to have one.
@Radionut
@Radionut 2 жыл бұрын
Caught and guilty by video. That’s the way it should be everywhere
@colinhutchings1543
@colinhutchings1543 2 жыл бұрын
Give them the cat o nine tails every time too.
@carlpearce2252
@carlpearce2252 2 жыл бұрын
Tried that in Inverness the Police are not interested.
@nonopus3125
@nonopus3125 2 жыл бұрын
Please other county police, do this in your counties. The standard of driving has fallen dramatically here in greater Manchester and I’m sure in all other places too.
@angelsone-five7912
@angelsone-five7912 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely mad in Birmingham, worse than a race track.
@mikeb7615
@mikeb7615 2 жыл бұрын
So glad this is a thing, hopefully this will stop idiots everywhere
@ningayeti
@ningayeti 2 жыл бұрын
What do the the zigzag lane markings shown in one of the videos mean? We don't have anything like that in the U.S. The U.S. is beginning to use roundabouts, but there are only two of them within 20 miles of my home. They are more dangerous here at the moment because otherwise good drivers here may come upon one and not only have they never used one some have never even known that such things existed... and hilarity ensues. Expensive and terrifying hilarity.
@gitootside
@gitootside Жыл бұрын
in simple terms... the zigzag lines at pedestrian crossings are supposed to provide a safe zone around the crossing... eg you can't park there as it restricts view. it should be punished with 3 points on your licence. 12 points is supposed to mean an automatic ban, but some lawyers have successfully argued that the driver needs their licence for work... which in itself is ridiculous... if you NEED your licences then not driving like a knob will stop you from losing it.
@handsfree1000
@handsfree1000 2 жыл бұрын
£40 quid fine won’t stop them
@Billythebubble
@Billythebubble Жыл бұрын
RCZ, Mini and Astra van drivers deserved to lose there license for minimum 12 months. Both red light jumpers 6 months in prison.
@johnedwards4176
@johnedwards4176 2 жыл бұрын
piss poor punishment ,these people must be laughing as they leave the courtroom . Most of them should have got fines with three zero's on the end and minimum 12 month bans
@steveo6944
@steveo6944 Жыл бұрын
its just a pity other police forces were as pro active about bad driving as you guys. Im on the road every day & the driving offences I see are horrific
@franktuckwell196
@franktuckwell196 2 жыл бұрын
So good to see those that need punishing, getting fined, thanks to the powers that be.
@Wreckemrage
@Wreckemrage 5 ай бұрын
Not really one for grassing people up with dash cam footage but christ, how the hell do you give the 308cc driver and the mini such a little fine for nearly causing a death. The head on could have been awful as could the pensioner over a bonnet.
@gowdsake7103
@gowdsake7103 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely pathetic fines
@michaelneale7813
@michaelneale7813 5 ай бұрын
Should Be 7 to 14 Day Bans As well as Fine And Points
@stevebrain4393
@stevebrain4393 2 жыл бұрын
All police forces should do a similar operation
@michaeltaylor8835
@michaeltaylor8835 17 күн бұрын
They got off lightly
@grahamshaw4964
@grahamshaw4964 Жыл бұрын
It's no good fining these people,take the licence away for min 5yrs ,death is forever
@MegaCj74
@MegaCj74 Жыл бұрын
Sorry but dangerous driving is being tolerated when such ineffective punishment is given
@sharronbevan6425
@sharronbevan6425 2 жыл бұрын
Well done 👏 ✔
@trevorhoward7682
@trevorhoward7682 2 жыл бұрын
Too much self advertising and too little content. Also, is there a legal reason for not showing number plates of offenders?
@fredemny3304
@fredemny3304 Жыл бұрын
Yes.
@trevorhoward7682
@trevorhoward7682 Жыл бұрын
​@@fredemny3304So, what is it? To show a driver performing an illegal or dangerous manoeuvre? Please explain.
@EugVR6
@EugVR6 2 жыл бұрын
So the 1st video shows a near head on with a danger to life and the 2nd show a near fatality and just scrape £100 in fines but run the red light behind a lorry and get £660 fine and a ban!....the law makes no sense.
@EnglishLaw
@EnglishLaw 2 жыл бұрын
The fine is high only when the registered keeper doesn't disclose who was driving. It's to discourage the old ignorance tactic.
@EugVR6
@EugVR6 2 жыл бұрын
@@EnglishLaw it said they received a 6 month ban, they can't ban someone unless they know who's driving can they?
@rjb2626
@rjb2626 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, these examples were bad. But what I see here is the police asking the public to snitch on one another. Please don't.
@rufusgreenleaf2466
@rufusgreenleaf2466 2 жыл бұрын
For health and safety yes, letting people get away with things like this could cause death to someone.
@PeterBee911
@PeterBee911 2 жыл бұрын
If it's to protect people from getting hurt and killed by those dumbasses, yes, let's "snitch". Unless you're saying that because you're the kind of driver displayed in those videos? :)
@andrewthomas2406
@andrewthomas2406 2 жыл бұрын
@@PeterBee911 but no one did get hurt or killed,so lets not do the snitching.
@rikardsaje
@rikardsaje Жыл бұрын
The courts are too soft.
@carlf3051
@carlf3051 2 жыл бұрын
I love these Police PR videos. It's just a shame that they don't represent the true reality of the police force, which spends most of it's time playing politics, or raising money for its masters.
@johnjephcote7636
@johnjephcote7636 Жыл бұрын
0.47 I think that mini should have been disqualified as it nearly rammed the lady in red.
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