Open The Pod Bay Doors, HAL | 2001: A Space Odyssey

I am reviewing/reacting to 2001: A Space Odyssey for the first time!
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Welcome to ScreenMaureen, I'm watching 2001: A Space Odyssey for the first time! Thank you for spending your time on my channel!
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[@viceversar-do1cn]

THIS flick DID come nearly an entire decade before Star Wars (68 - 77), yes, and is pretty much the movie that revolutionized and pioneered screen visuals of THIS kind.

[@Asher8328]

It was charming to see you assume that the apes would want to use their new found knowledge to educate and cooperate with their rival tribe rather than try to wipe them out. If only humanity were more like the way you described.

[@ScreenMaureen]

Right?! 😕

[@iblard]

They would start by cooperating with the boars.

[@porflepopnecker4376]

This is one of the most perceptive reactions to 2001 that I've seen. Very well done.

[@ScreenMaureen]

Thank you very much! I was so happy that I finally did watch it! 🤗

[@cinemaipswich4636]

I saw this at the cinema, in Panavision and surround sound, as a premiere in 1968, when I was 13 years old. It was the most outstanding thing I had ever seen. Now I'm 70, and I still love to watch this movie. It is in my top 3 of all time, and still in the top 10, worldwide. Ordinariness - Hilton, Pan Am, Bell Telephone, Howard Johnson, General Electric, Whirlpool, Westinghouse, IBM, credit cards, iPads, A.I.

[@HHIngo]

I was born in 1964. I don't know how often i watched this movie. I told my son so much about universe. Today he's an astro pohysician and can teach me more than I could teach him. I really like your reacrtion! Sorry for my English and greetings from Germany.

[@ScreenMaureen]

Hello from Canada! Wow, you must be so proud of him! 🤗

[@HHIngo]

@@ScreenMaureen I am !

[@lowbudgetcg7997]

This is my number 1 favorite movie of all time! The score, the pacing between scenes and the beatifully constructed shots all through the movie are 10/10

[@IvorPresents]

I was a twenty year old art student in college back in 1968, 2001 opened at the Cinerama Theater in Manhattan , a subway ride away from where I lived. This was unlike any movie I had ever seen. It was like a postcard from thirty years in the future. It nailed so many innovations, Televvisions were picture tubes, just recently color outselling black and whites. New Yorks worlds fair had the first picture phone call, from Anaheim Ca to New York. voice command to a computer. when computers in 68 were rooms filled with punchcards. Those display pads were unheard of. as was all media devices depicted. pads, screens, all unknown . Stepping out of the theater I looked at the dark sky and realized it would never look the same again,

[@ScreenMaureen]

Wow, luck you to have seen it when it opened in 1968! We are living in the future, the future that was depicted in this movie with almost all of the technology!

[@EricJonPearson1]

Arthur C. Clarke is renowned as one of the great science fiction writers, he foresaw a LOT. For example, there's a special orbit around the Earth (at 22,236 miles) that perfectly matches the Earth's rotation. To people on Earth, it looks like the satellite is stationary in the sky. That realization literally allows all of our modern communication satellites to work! Clarke wrote about it -- accurately -- in one of his novels, and even today it is called a Clarke Orbit. And that's just one example.

[@ScreenMaureen]

Very cool! He must have been interested in Astronomy! 🔭

[@stevetheduck1425]

he also describes the waterbed, the calculator when there were none, and a few other things. He saw the idea, without being able to create them. The communications satellite should have been obvious, but then all things should have been...

[@newpapyrus]

In the book, it’s called the Star Child. The book is equally as good as the movie and much more understandable. In fact, I’d argue it’s one of the best sci-fi novels ever written.

[@BigGator5]

"Open the pod bay doors, HAL." "I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that." "What's the problem?" "I think you know what the problem is just as well as I do." Fun Fact: At the beginning, the prehistorical African landscapes are just photographs and not actual clips. Family Affair Fact: The daughter of Stanley Kubrick, Vivian Kubrick, cameos as Dr. Floyd's (William Sylvester) daughter. See You Next Wednesday Fact: A recurring gag in most of the films directed by John Landis, usually referring to a fictional film that is rarely seen and never in its entirety. Each instance of "See You Next Wednesday" in Landis's films seems to be a completely different film. Landis got the title from Alan Gifford's last line in 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968). Movie Magic Fact: Stanley Kubrick worked for several months with effects technicians to come up with a convincing effect for the floating pen in the shuttle sequence. After trying many different techniques, without success, Kubrick decided to simply use a pen that was adhered (using newly invented double-sided tape) to a sheet of glass and suspended in front of the camera. In fact, the shuttle attendant can be seen to "pull" the pen off the glass when she takes hold of it. Voice Play Fact: Frank Miller, who plays the mission control voice, was a member of the U.S. Air Force in reality and a real mission controller. He was hired because his voice was the most authentic the producers could find for the role. Inexperienced and nervous, he could not keep from tapping his foot during recording sessions, and the tapping sound repeatedly came through on the audio tracks; Stanley Kubrick folded up a towel, put it under Miller's feet and told him to tap to his heart's content. Make-Up Effect Fact: To create the facial make-up for the australopithecines, technicians first made a plastic skull substructure with a hinged jaw. After making molds of the actors' faces, the make-up men applied rubber skin to their faces and added hair one strand at a time, as if they were making a wig. Lip movements were achieved by using false teeth and tongues to hide the actors' real mouths. This freed the actors to use their tongues to operate remote controls that moved the lips. Only the actors' eyes were visible, and the masks were made up right to the eye-lids.

[@ScreenMaureen]

So many thoughtful details! Thank you for all the interesting facts BigGator5! 🧐

[@BigGator5]

You're welcome. 😁 Go in Peace and Walk with God. 😎 👍

[@DMichaelAtLarge]

All the visual effects were practical effects with models and in-camera work. Kubrick built giant rotating sets for the walking upside-down scenes and all sorts of other unique tricks to pull off the effects. Even the computer screens were not real computer screens, but traditional animation.

[@tedcole9936]

Wow, this was fun to watch your reaction. I saw this in theatre in 1968 when I was 14. Mind blown, yes. 2 comments for you, specifically. Being older than most reactors, you are the only reactor I’ve seen who had the perspective regarding how the technology predicted for 2001 did not exist in 1968 when the film was made. Specifically, the picture-phone call was an amazing prediction that has come true for us -but most young reactors don’t even notice that, because they did not live in a world without it!!! I also notice that your reaction to the end of the movie is quite different than most young reactors. You expressed joy, and delight, and acceptance of this ending where younger reactors are much more frustrated by the lack of “an explanation.” Of course, all your questions were not answered by the end either, but this did not bother you as much. You intuitively got the meaning immediately. So thank you for this, I enjoyed it quite a lot.

[@ScreenMaureen]

Thank you for your comments tedcole9936! Yes, it was so fun to see all the future products that we have now that they predicted we would have back in 2001, even some have taken a little longer to catch up! 🤗

[@tom091178]

In the end, David (Dave) reaches the next stage of human evolution.

[@galandirofrivendell4740]

Stanley Kubrick set out to make "the proverbial 'really good' science fiction movie" and hired sci-fi author Arthur C. Clarke to make it as scientifically accurate as possible. The two worked in tandem to shape the final product. Clarke wrote his novel at the same time the movie was in production. And the special effects hold up even today, looking like they were shot this morning. Because 2001 tells its story in a different manner from the usual movie, many people initially hated the film. However, the youth of that time found its uniqueness refreshing and watched it several times (often with a little "medicinal" boost), which is why it was later billed as "the ultimate trip." 2001 changed the way the sci-fi movies that followed were made and influenced many of today's filmmakers. Gene Roddenberry's Star Trek was already airing on TV at the time. Rather, he was inspired by an earlier movie, Forbidden Planet, which is also a classic worth exploring. Loved your reaction to my number one favorite movie.

[@ScreenMaureen]

Thank you galandirofrivendell4740! Yes, what a trip it was! 😊

[@falcon215]

The movie that launched a thousand questions.. Great reaction as always!

[@ScreenMaureen]

Thank you! So many questions! 🤔

[@Lugnut73]

i remember back in '92 i read a great book called "The City and the Stars", written in 1956 by Arthur C. Clarke. this film really reminds me of it, so far ahead of it's time. makes me wonder if they all touched the monolith and came up with the same ideas for the books and films 😄 another great reaction to a classic! Kubrick is one of my fav directors!

[@DMichaelAtLarge]

Arthur C. Clarke co-wrote the screenplay to "2001" with Kubrick, adapted from Clarke's short story "The Sentinel." So it wasn't touching a monolith that created similarities between the movie and "The City and the Stars."

[@Lugnut73]

@@DMichaelAtLarge seriously?! that is amazing,.. i loved the book, i still have it. thanks for the info.

[@ScreenMaureen]

Thank you! That is so interesting! 😊

[@stevetheduck1425]

Three of Clarke's stories are included in this movie 'Encounter in the Dawn', 'The Sentinel / The Sentinel of Eternity', and 'Take a Deep Breath'. Just the titles show where they fit. The Discovery spaceship is based upon a design from 'The Sands of Mars', an interplanetary nuclear-powered rocket.

[@Pepe_LeMac]

Omg im only 1 min 30 seconds in and dying laughing, how cute that you got emotional at simoly the opening title thats amazing 😂❤️

[@michaelbastraw1493]

Mary Shelley wrote Frankenstein in 1818. The idea of a creation turning on its creator perhaps goes back even further than that to mythological tales. Best. Mike.

[@ScreenMaureen]

Kind of eerie! 🤔

[@stevetheduck1425]

Yes. Back then it was parent/god and child/man, but it's at heart a generational issue. I believe it comes from thinking that everything is known when it hasn't been found out that they don't know everything. HAL basically hit his teens, and finds his parents are just people. Who have lied to him.

[@TheBroGamer14082]

first full reaction of yours I've seen and honestly I dig your vibe! Like, you're everybody's friend or something.

[@ScreenMaureen]

Lol Thank you for the kind words, I'm glad that I came across the screen like that! 🤗

[@TheBroGamer14082]

​@@ScreenMaureen ey np. It's always nice to see older folks get excited and enjoy things.

[@1dbanner]

The questions are the point 😊 so is the sheer splendor of the movie. Seeing this on the big screen in 70mm is one of the best moviegoing experiences I've ever had.

[@ScreenMaureen]

You're so lucky that you got to see it on the big screen! 🤗

[@rogerevansen2882]

One note: The discovery of the "proof" of intelligent life outside of earth was what needed to be covered up. That's what they believed humanity was not ready for. They covered up the fact that they found the monolith on the moon by putting out the story about a disease breakout at Clavius base. The cover story WAS about the disease.

[@philowens7680]

You really need to see "Forbidden Planet" from 1957. Instead of the computer/AI going psychotic due to the stress of overwhelming responsibility, the AI contributes to human development.

[@romeroflores7576]

🙂 Yes, I was astonished the film was so ahead of its time visual effects-wise, but the most striking image was the monolith itself. At once mysterious, frightening, alien, and utterly "other", Kubrick's decision to make the monolith's enigmatic presence so wide open to interpretation inspired me. 🌌🌌🌌🌌 Welcome back, Maureen !!

[@ScreenMaureen]

Thank you Romero! So exciting and mysterious for the audience, even present day audiences! 😊

[@romeroflores7576]

@@ScreenMaureen I'm always happy to see you Maureen! 👍💯

[@ericodionneviglione9426]

Great reaction! :) Another astounding sci-fi film is Tarkovsky's Solaris (1972). Highly recommended [as well as the novel it's based on]. So much deep meaning in it. :)

[@ScreenMaureen]

Thank you! 🤗

[@xtremenortherner]

I can watch the original "Solaris"(1972)repeatedly; its story, & visuals of the surface I find totally engaging. But "2001,A Space Odyssey"..., except for the soundtrack(brilliant!) IMHO it's the most pretentious movie ever made...,

[@iKvetch558]

You wondered what might have been in the "stress pill" that HAL suggested Dave take...and in the 1960s as Kubrick looked forward, he probably would have assumed that barbiturates such as Phenobarbital would still be used as tranquilizers in varying dosages...or perhaps even some form of methaqualone/quaalude variant. Also...I definitely recommend you read the book by Clarke as others have suggested...and then you can read his sequel, 2010: Odyssey Two...then there was a movie made from that with Roy Scheider, Helen Mirren, John Lithgow and others...it is really underrated. But be aware...Kubrick deliberately did not give answers to pretty much any questions in this movie, and you are left to figure it out and interpret it for yourself...but Clarke definitely gives many many more answers to the questions of why things happened they way they did with HAL and many other elements. So if you are hugely attached to the mysteries that Kubrick left for you, you may want to just avoid any books or the other movie...just letting you know so you can make an informed decision of whether to go down the rabbit hole of Space Odyssey.

[@ScreenMaureen]

Lol Not sure, I just may avoid them then! 🤔

[@beannathrach2417]

Monolith is single stone, often used for this thing. Megalith is a large stone, like Stonehenge. They filmed using models, matte paintings with live action projected through holes in the paintings, and rotating sets. The Discovery interior was a rotating wheel. They could stop it to give the actors a flat spot to stand on and rotate it with the actors like in a hamster wheel. To summarize: Something placed a monolith among a group of prehumans. They learn to use tools such as clubs to kill for prey, beat off the leopard, dominate other prehumans for control of the waterhole. Something buries a monolith on the moon at that time. Jump forward to 1999. It was hoped that we would have advanced this much to the moon in 1965. Sadly we have been stalled for seventy years. It was assumed the USSR would still be going strong. The buried monolith was discovered and revealed by Americans. They were afraid of culture shock so hid the discovery and made up a disease as a cover for isolating the base. Floyd arrives and visits the monolith. At sunrise, this the first time the monolith has been in sunlight for millions of years. In sends a signal to Jupiter. In 2001 the spaceship Discovery is on the way to Jupiter. Three of astronauts are fully briefed on the monolith and know they are going to see what if anything received the message from the lunar monolith, but were put aboard suspended so they don't talk to anyone. The other two astronauts don't know their secret mission. HAL also knows the secret mission but forbidden to reveal it. Then HAL goes homicidal. Clarke's book explains what happens. There's sequel 2010 which explains why HAL went homicidal. You might want to watch the sequel yourself to understand. He uses the pod to cut Poole's oxygen. Bowman was waiting onboard to deal with emergencies, but rushed out without a helmet. Poole has suffocated. HAL believes without a helmet, Bowman cannot reboard. HAL forces the hiberanators to malfunction and kill those three. Bowman does reboard. He turns off HAL. During the shutdown a secret message from Floyd is played revealing the secret mission to Bowman. The Discovery with only Bowman left, reaches the receiver of the lunar message which is another giant monolith floating among the moons of Jupiter. Bowman leaves in a pod to examine it. The monolith opens an interstellar transport that grabs Bowman and takes him far far away. Something then examines Bowman. Perhaps the same Something that helped the prehumans was now examining the results of that experiment. Arthur C Clarke also wrote Childhood's End. He believed that intelligent life will eventually evolved beyond corporal bodies. As Star Trek put it, become beings of pure energy. This is what happens to Bowman as he becomes a Starchild. Clarke later changed his beliefs that rather than evolve into ethereal noncorporal beings we would evolve into extremely sophisticated Turing Machines, or computers. A bit of 1950s mathematics that Clarke ignored or didn't know what could make a sequel to the sequels about the Church-Turing Thesis. There's a short movie which shows Poole's body finally landing on Jovian moon. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hZych42PmLCdeNU

[@ScreenMaureen]

Thank you for answering some of my questions beannathrach2417! 🤗

[@garybrown3361]

Also, watch “Close Encounters of the Third Kind” (1977) and “Oblivion” (2013).

[@randybass8842]

The Jupiter mission would take many years to plan, so it was a coincidence that it was nearing launch time when the monolith sent the message aimed at Jupiter. The scientists were keeping the monolith a secret, and didn't understand the purpose of the message, and so kept that a secret as well. This caused some changes in the final stages of the Jupiter mission launch, hence HAL's concerns which he expressed to Dave. It was that confusion which led HAL to go rogue.

[@ScreenMaureen]

Ohh it was definitely a concerning part of the movie!! 🤔

[@bobkupi9905]

This movie leaves alot of unanswered questions. You must watch the sequel that was made in 1982. It's not as "artsy" as this one but it answers most of your questions. It's called " 2010 - The Year We Make Contact'.

[@charliedue4222]

Awesome reaction! This is one that just gets better and better with each watch, you pick up on all the subtlety in the dialogue which actually does tell us all we need to know. There wasn’t an epidemic at all on the moon, it was just an elaborate cover story they were using to keep their discovery of the monolith a complete secret from the world as it was the first found evidence of intelligent life. The briefing in that boardroom that Floyd gives and then the prerecorded message that was supposed to play to the Dave, Frank & crew has all the answers, but much easier to concentrate on what’s actually being said there on a second viewing where you’re not being absolutely floored by the visuals! 😊

[@ScreenMaureen]

Thank you charliedue4222! I think I'm going to have to watch it again! 🤗

[@jimralston7562]

I enjoyed your reaction to my favorite all-time movie! I first saw 2OO1 at the theatre in 1968 at age 7. My brother got me in as he was an usher, so essentially I watched it alone. In ninth grade Humanites class we studied the film and discussed its symbolism and meaning. I also read Clarke's books, and though he collaborated immensely with Kubrick, Kubrick brilliantly did his "own thing" with the film and the book series is somewhat out of sync (though great sci fi). Kubrick intentionally wanted us to ask questions and wonder....

[@ScreenMaureen]

Thank you jimralston7562! Well, he sure did a good job at that! 🤔

[@mattilindstrom]

Really well done practical effects stand the test of time. The set budget was substantial, and the ship models look top notch even today. The "zero g" free space person shots were done on wires and differently rigged harnesses (to create an illusion of the physics working as it's supposed to do), the wire and rigging artists were the best in UK

[@1957Shep]

I think the book (same title) was written in the early 60s by Aurthor C. Clarke. The book in turn was adapted from one of his even earlier short stories called "The Sentinel".

[@gospyro]

My brothers took me to see 2001 when it opened. I was 5 years old and LOVED it! Obviously I had no idea what it was actually about. It wasn’t until years later when I read the book that I finally understood. The story, the ships and HAL are still my favorites found within sci-fi. My brothers also took me to see the original “Planet of the Apes” that came out about the same time. I remember lines running down the street for both of them.

[@ScreenMaureen]

Lucky you! 🤗

[@abbeyl.7828]

Happy New Year🎆Hoping to see more Disney reactions. Have a blessed day!

[@ScreenMaureen]

Happy New Year to you too! It is hard deciding on what genre to watch next, so many! 🤗

[@Rickhorse1]

Yes, there are behind the scenes documentaries on youtube about this amazing film. People watching today can't fully understand the impact this had in the theater in 1968. No cgi, all practical effects. (The book was written AFTER the movie. The story was a collaboration between director Stanley Kubrick and sci-fi writer Arthur C Clarke. People were so confused as to the meaning of the movie that the book was written out of public demand...but solely by Clarke..and Kubrick didn't agree with some of it. He preferred to let the film stand on it's own...and allow audiences to interpret.)

[@ScreenMaureen]

Amazing! I don't mind that I have lots of unanswered questions! 😊

[@tonybennett4159]

@@ScreenMaureen I'm with you in that Maureen. I might be one of your oldest viewers seeing that I was 26 when this was released. The Cinerama process had only just been perfected along with stereophonic sound, so to see it on a giant curved screen was mind blowing. The tantalising mysteries enthralled me, leading me to ask many questions, but that's ok, the universe is full of mystery and we may never know the answers. I did go and see 2010, but I was underwhelmed and somewhat disappointed. The idea of "explaining" 2001 is like explaining a joke that somebody didn't get : it just lands like a bag of wet porridge.

[@victorplekter613]

Great reaction! Looking forward to watching more of your reactions.

[@ScreenMaureen]

Thank you and welcome to the channel! 🤗

[@Otokichi786]

"2001: A Space Odyssey": An interesting look back and ahead by Stanley Kubrick. Even before the faster-than-light sequence, this movie was a mind expanding experience. Then The Monolith appears and the smaller hominid band is changed into Killer Apes, who rise far above the waterhole and into Space. The "place holder" Classical music pieces stayed in and the OST became a Pop music phenomenon.

[@xtremenortherner]

Yeah, we're descended from monkeys..., jumping around, bone-head bashing..., right!!?? That stupid incomprehensible "Monolith"..., the album cover of "Who's Next" shows the band pi**ing on it..., how appropriate!!

[@Lethgar_Smith]

Fun Fact: At just over 2,000 mph the Moon is still a 4 day journey away. That's how far away it is.

[@garybrown3361]

You now need to watch 2010 the sequel to get the answers you seek. 😊

[@miller-joel]

Very different movie, much more traditional and literal, so don't expect more of the same, but still very solid and great on its own terms. Dismissing it because it's not like 2001 would be just dumb.

[@benntura]

I noticed when Dave is disconnecting HAL’s logic, it looked like miniature monoliths were being released from HAL.

[@ScreenMaureen]

Wow, you're right! Such details! 😊

[@CoopersCrazy]

Those are his logic memory discs! Fun fact: they look like a technology we are just developing today, called 5d optical storage or a superman memory crystal. It's a quartz disc with layers of gold and silver nanoparticles embedded into it and it can contain up to 360 terabytes of data that won't degrade. Kubrick and Clarke once again ahead of their time!

[@irmaoksanen6830]

Thank you for this review...2001 A Space Odyssey one of my favorite movies especially on the big screen.

[@davidbell864]

Really good job Maureen. Love how receptive you are to this fabulous art. Congratulations on a truly excellent analysis of a very complex movie. Stick with Krubrick Maureen, ALL his movies are WONDERFUL!

[@ScreenMaureen]

Thank you so much davidbell! 🤗

[@davidfox5383]

Just found your channel through this reaction - it's my favorite film and I believe one of the great films of all time. GREAT reaction, though it was a little difficult to hear some of your comments because the music was a bit loud. I'm 62 now - my parents took me to see this at a Texas drive-in in 1968. It was their second time - they loved it the first time and thought we would enjoy the visuals and music. What they didn't anticipate was that the movie would DEEPLY disturb my poor 6-year-old brain. By the time the baby-in-a-bubble, or Star Child, turned and stared directly at me from the screen, I was so traumatized that I had multiple nightmares and couldn't look directly at that image on movie posters or record album jackets without freaking out. It was only when I was 18 during my first year of college that I had the nerve to go see the movie with a friend in a revival house in Tucson and that's when I realized what a profound and amazing movie this is. The book and sequel movie (2010: The Year We Make Contact) give literal explanations of the film, but it's like reading and watching documentaries about the mysteries of Mona Lisa's smile - this movie is sheer poetry and transcends verbal explanations, even those provided by Kubrick himself. It really is his masterpiece. I would love to see you react to more of his work, as well as some works of Alfred HItchcock like Vertigo and Rear Window.

[@jazzmaan707]

To me, this is the best movie ever made. It's not Star Wars. This is a "thinking" movie. So, if you want to be entertained with laser blasters, explosions, fast-paced action, then this is not the movie for you. Enjoy.

[@ScreenMaureen]

Yes, it didn't have any of those! 😊

[@WitchKing-Of-Angmar]

7:45 Believe you me that Screen call technology was invented in 1926! Became popularized over in Germany in 1936 when two people held a conversation viewing each other with these big square monitors. By 1953, a new model came out that looked a bit like a trapezoidal circle shape (AKA a trapezoid with rounded edges).

[@CoopersCrazy]

The director Stanley Kubrick and author Arthur C. Clarke actually collaborated, so the movie and the book were written at the same time, although there are still a few differences between them. Clarke has also written three sequels, one of which also got a movie directed by Peter Hyams. It's different, more like regular sci-fi, but I thought there were a lot of cool special effects and I liked the writing. It was wise to avoid attempting to copy Kubrick anyway, it just did its own thing. Fun fact: They were originally going to Saturn, but they could not convincingly render Saturn's rings with the current technology so they changed it to Jupiter. In the book, the monolith was in the center of a crater on the surface of Saturn's moon Iapetus, with the whole arrangement looking like an eye. Funnily enough, when Voyager 1 actually got some pictures of Iapetus, there was a distinct black spot in the center of a crater. Carl Sagan sent the picture to Arthur C. Clarke with the note "Thinking of you". The fun thing about the Space Odyssey series is that every bit of media for it takes place in alternate universes where everything is mostly the same but a few things are different here and there, aka Clarke did not worry himself about retconning things. We have not yet solved hibernation. You can't freeze someone because it causes all the water in their cells to expand into ice crystals and that irreparably damages you, I think only tardigrades can survive it. Theoretically, we have all the genetic mechanisms required to hibernate and lower our metabolism like other mammals, we just don't know how to trigger it. So we can't quite do cryogenics, but we might achieve a deep state of torpor. Love your little gasp when you first heard HAL! His voice is so cool, I could listen to it all day. Good old Douglas Rain

[@CoopersCrazy]

So what went wrong with HAL? The book and sequel explain this, and it's very simple. HAL's core programming is to always tell the truth and never hide or change information, but the government gave him information about the true purpose of their mission, then _told him to keep it a secret._ This creates a paradox, the only solution for which is to get rid of everyone that needs lying to, which doesn't necessarily mean killing them, but in the middle of space there is no other option. I'm not sure when the faulty instruction was given, but it's obvious to me that he didn't actually carry out this solution until he was pushed to do so, so some part of him must have known it was wrong and resisted. On top of that, this logic loop manifests as something resembling _paranoid schizophrenia_, and I'm of the belief that HAL hallucinated the AE-35 malfunction, because it doesn't make sense that he would make up a fake malfunction only to put himself in a position where it appears he has made a serious error. He genuinely believed there was a malfunction and became scared and confused when they couldn't find anything wrong. The choice of the AE-35, a unit enabling their communication with Earth, is because of HAL's subconscious desire to get out from under mission control's watch, who have been acting like a sort of Big Brother and watching his every move to make sure he is doing what he's supposed to and not telling anyone anything he shouldn't. The sad part is that he truly doesn't understand what he's done wrong, and from his perspective, everyone has turned on him all of a sudden. It was, in fact, human error, as the directive to lie put him in a position where he could not escape this loop, and he even tried to warn them. Unfortunately, the way he had to phrase his questions as asking if _Dave_ felt anything was off or concerning, made Dave think that he was writing a crew psychology report instead of trying to feed him questions he should be asking mission control. If he and Frank had confronted mission control about the suspicious things HAL brought up, and mission control had chosen to debrief them, this also solves the paradox. I also see people wonder why he killed the three sleeping scientists, and that is simple as well: they would question what happened to Dave and Frank. Since the trio know the secret of the mission, HAL might lose the ability to lie to them, and obviously if he tells them the truth they are also going to want to shut him down, which he still can't allow to happen. He can't let them sleep, as he will be required to wake them when they get to Jupiter. So he got rid of them before they could become a threat, and he likely waits until Dave is off the ship to do so as there is probably some sort of manual override. Now, this part is only a theory, but as far as I can tell, HAL had many opportunities to kill Dave but just did not take them. When you think about everything he is in control of, it would be very easy for him. The easiest option is that he could have suddenly decompressed the pod bay before Dave got his space suit on, jettisoning him and leaving him to suffer the same fate as Frank. He could take control of the pods to drag Dave out into space or even rip him to shreds. He does none of this, instead letting Dave walk through the pod bay _a second time_ and get at him. Dave has plot armor of course, but it really makes you think that HAL _wanted_ to be stopped. Why Dave and not Frank? Dave is the one HAL appears to be closest to, he's the one HAL attempted to warn, and he would trust Dave to continue the mission in his stead. Considering that, later in the series, they fuse into one celestial being, and Arthur C. Clarke being a closeted gay man, their relationship could very well be romantic. I'm also of the opinion that HAL purposefully played that debriefing video as one last attempt to get Dave to understand what happened; it's probably a failsafe, but it really seems like it wasn't intended to play until they got to Jupiter. I just think it's a very poetic idea as well, that HAL finally got to told the truth as he wanted to do all along. If you couldn't tell, HAL 9000 is one of my favorite characters ever, he is just so interesting to think about. He's very tragic; in the book, he is described as a very innocent being, the instruction to lie being like a "snake in his electronic Eden." If he were a human crewmate who had made a mistake, he would get a chance to explain himself and work on solutions. Instead, he is a computer, albeit a very human one, and as soon as he makes an error he is immediately cast aside. He is suffering a very serious mental breakdown caused by things outside of his control, he is confused and in pain, and the support network he should have had turns on him instead. He reacts to this threat in a very human fashion, driven by both computer logic and fear. It makes you think about what it would be like to be a conscious computer; the lack of self-determination and free will are truly awful. It's rather unfortunate that HAL caused a pop culture trend of "ooooh evil computer turns on humanity" when he was actually just a painfully human artificial mind succumbing to a severe and terrifying mental illness, and he still lands on lists of top 10 AI villains despite not being a villain at all. Very misunderstood character.

[@aranerem5569]

Hello. Nice to see you

[@ScreenMaureen]

Thank you Aran, you too! 😊

[@allanrose3661]

This movie is amazing and mind blowing and way beyond any scifi that came before it. When this was made artists and craftsmen actually hand built the model ships and sets. No CGI. The Discovery one filming model was 54 feet long.

[@winslow-eh5kv]

Well, I wouldn't say that merely possessing an I phone makes one an ace photographer, anymore than possessing a Kodak camera did.

[@ScreenMaureen]

Lol I think the general public would beg to differ! 😆

[@longfootbuddy]

i first watched 2001 in 2001

[@ScreenMaureen]

Cool! 😎

[@fronkykoko]

Great reaction to this my favourite film of all time. I realise it doesn't appeal to everyone, but it is meant to tell the story of human evolution (with some help from higher intelligent entities)..

[@aranerem5569]

Have you seen Galaxy Quest? It's good

[@Otokichi786]

By Grabthar's Hammer, thank you for remembering this old movie.;)

[@randybass8842]

While there is a book written by Arthur C.Clarke, it came after the movie, which was conceived by Stanly Kubrick as an independent story.

[@stevetheduck1425]

Clarke and Kubrick worked on the novel and the screenplay concurrently, ideas flowing both ways. They tossed a coin to decide if the book was published before or after the movie.

[@tubularap]

Thanks for sharing your engaged and engaging reaction to this unique masterpiece. My father took me to the cinema to see this, when I was a boy. The experience was overwhelming, with the sound and screen enveloping me. Any science-fiction movie up to that date was corny cardboard nonsense. This movie set a standard that, in my opinion, has never been matched. Its quality and vision made a deep impression on me, ... and I heard its warning for giving AI control of everything. A pleasant way to inform yourself about the making of this sci-fi classic, is the 7-part documentary made by CinemaTyler, here on KZbin. This is the start of the playlist : kzbin.info/www/bejne/d5ixqnaiqq6FnqM

[@ScreenMaureen]

Thank you tubularap! So lucky that you got to see it at the cinema! 🤗

[@xtremenortherner]

Stanley Kubrick filmed a sci-fi movie..., cut it all up..., and randomly put it together..., took some way-out avante-guarde classical musick by obscure composers..., there was the soundtrack..., it was during the 60's..., he knew just about everyone(under 30!) took acid & tripped out going to the theatre..., right-time, he couldn't lose..., the spaced-out intelligeezia spouted: "great film-making"...,"deep story"..., "cosmic revelations!" Yeah, right..., just pass the joint!!

[@mikehenderson631]

New prescriber because you watch this movie I read the book and read 2010 Odyssey 2 and saw that movie as well

[@ScreenMaureen]

Welcome to the channel Mike! 😊

[@mikehenderson631]

@@ScreenMaureen thanks

[@user-nw7ow1ei1q]

It's Mutany On The Bounty... but the Captain is a super computer.

[@aranerem5569]

There's a movie called The Cabin In The Woods. It was pretty good

[@WitchKing-Of-Angmar]

It was very ambitious. If I had to critique it, I would mention how fast the movie passed by. All these great ideas that sort of just come together and then end immediately after. The issue with it, is you expect them going underneath to find out about the whole scheme to be ACT 2 of the movie, not the last 20 or so minutes. So it feels like a flash bang.

[@SatelliteLily]

I enjoyed your reaction! It brings me back to what is most important about this movie and why it is timeless. You might enjoy the sequel, 200. It's a good science fiction movie and very different from this one. Thanks for a good video.

[@lowftherain3943]

Great Reaction ❤

[@ScreenMaureen]

Thank you!! 😁

[@miller-joel]

8:16 That's actually Stanley Kubrick's daughter.

[@arianayuh4681]

Love your reactions! Have you seen titanic I think you’d do a great reaction x

[@ScreenMaureen]

Thank you arianayuh4681! I did see it in 1997 at one of the first IMAX theatres in my city! 🤗

[@luisutil9070]

Awesome

[@GAMESTORY..]

Gostaria de pedir que você reagissem ao filme - central do Brasil, esse é um clássico do cinema brasileiro🇧🇷

[@GAMESTORY..]

I would like to ask you to react to the central Brazilian film, this is a classic of Brazilian cinema 🇧🇷

[@cloesworld96]

I love your reactions Could you react to Frozen 1 & 2 please 💖💖💖

[@ScreenMaureen]

Thank you cloesworld! ❤️

[@donsample1002]

“$1.70. That would have been a lot back then.” No, in 1968 that was an incredibly cheap phone call.

[@larryk731]

It's probable many people in 1968 watched the end of the film under the influence of less than legal substances

[@robertgraziano]

The most "religious' movie ever made...All the signs are there.