OpenBSD and DWM: True Minimalism

[@MiredAlien]

I like spectrwm better for the following reasons: * better multi-monitor management * built-in ability to push slave windows to master incrementally (not push patch needed) * built-in gaps * built-in ability to switch back and forth between two workspaces, along with... * ... the ability to cycle through all workspaces with open windows. No mod+0 to see all open windows together like with dwm, though. One text file and you're set up. I think spectrwm is underused and underrated. It's really perfect for my use-case. Thanks for your channel, btw, it's great!

[@swindlesmccoop]

I'll look into it.

[@MiredAlien]

@@swindlesmccoop I'd love to have your insight.

[@Perry....]

Void and Spectrwm is my daily driver. I feel like it's the best of having a lot of features while also being straight forward and easy to set up. I love it

[@ttt69420]

Your use-case is not knowing C

[@MiredAlien]

@@ttt69420 I know enough C to apply patches and customize dwm to my needs but why even bother when something simpler and more robust fits my need better? My use-case is time-saving efficiency, not gate-keeping purism.

[@BrenoSilveira94]

JFYI the Beastie is not just the FBSD mascot, it is a *BSD mascot. So, it is also the OBSD, DFBSD, NBSD....... mascot as well. PS.: And he loves you!

[@darthvalar4377]

And it's not a "devil", it's a "daemon", a mythologic creature that wants nothing else than to be of service to you ... for a price 😈 But after I read the fine print of the contract I was sold! It said only "From now on you will only be using FreeBSD" ... And I never looked back!

[@ConnorDaly-n7c]

guess i'm not using bsd

[@dhc2]

​@@ConnorDaly-n7cfiltered

[@ttt69420]

Only briefly and probably only because it forked from netbsd. It's certainly clever, but was ultimately a mistake, which is why all but freebsd have moved away from it.

[@MrMoto655]

Thanks for the inspiration. Currently watching this on my T440s with OpenBSD and DWM. Runs better than linux with less configuration. I will not be going back.

[@c4llv07e]

I can't believe I found another OpenBSD user with T420s and DWM!

[@swindlesmccoop]

Holy based

[@sweeler]

little late but I also have openBSD on my t420

[@ivansukin721]

I have t420 and OpenBSD, but I run rio as a wm

[@koishikisskogasa]

Can it play gmod?

[@MrMoto655]

If you try hard enough probably

[@bsdjail]

Nope. FreeBSD can with the Linux compatibility kmod

[@mnmvw]

Sdorfehs WM + OpenBSD is better and more minimal. Sdorfehs feels cleaner and key binds feel easier and more comfortable to use and configure. DWM is still nice though.

[@swindlesmccoop]

From what I've heard, sdorfehs is a stacking window manager, not a tiling one. Is this true? If it is a tiling, does it have the master-stack layout? Also, do you configure through source code? Those are the three reasons I love DWM so much.

[@denizkendirci]

or ratpoison.

[@swindlesmccoop]

@@mnmvw I think it has it's usecase but I think I'll stick with DWM. I would prefer if my WM took care of tiling and everything for me.

[@timchase7726]

@12:00 FWIW, you can simplify the volume command to just use a single sed invocation sndioctl -n output.level | sed 's/\.//;s/^0*//;s/.$/%/' The same ";" chaining can be done with some of the other scripts to execute all the sed-statements in one sed invocation.

[@blakkheim]

>oreimo wallpaper meh freebsd can have him

[@swindlesmccoop]

I don't do VMs, so I decided to wipe my OpenBSD install and use FreeBSD instead. I have the SSD inserted in my Ultrabay set to mount as /home on OpenBSD, and it worked great and was fast. I switch the FreeBSD today and I get my X server set up and realize something critical - my drive is formatted as FFS2, and there is no FFS2 support on FreeBSD. So you know what I have to do? I have to go back to OpenBSD, copy the files onto my internal drive, format the Ultrabay SSD as ext4 or something, copy the files back to that, install FreeBSD again, copy the files onto my main drive again, format the Ultrabay drive to ZFS, then copy the files onto it. That'll teach me to be an OS hopper. Though I've actually been using OpenBSD since mid-June, I never got around to making a video, and when I did, it took me a while to publish it.

[@blakkheim]

@@swindlesmccoop ...it was a joke about your taste in anime

[@swindlesmccoop]

@@blakkheim I know. I'm just telling you that by chance I'm actually a FreeBSD user as of this morning.

[@quitting_the_internet]

lol

[@awa0927]

3:45 LMFAO!! Definitely an operating system’s mascot is important, agreed! 😂😂

[@bajojohn]

It’s like LEDs on a 3d printer or chrome on a car-it makes it faster

[@Ashkimbo]

Cool video. Will definitely be trying this out :)

[@liquidmobius]

What are your thoughs on cwm compared to dwm on OpenBSD? Specifically as it relates to cwm being built from scratch by the OpenBSD devs and having built-in security mitigations that integrate with OpenBSD like pledge and unveil.

[@scratchandgame]

for me cwm > dwm. the author of the video use linux.

[@Kawakami_Akira]

Based oreimo enjoyer

[@arturorochoa9359]

the wallpaper is bloat. HAHAHAHAHHA, jk. I am envious of you that you can run BSD! I run Gentoo linux and love it!!

[@cagatay518]

i am also a gentoonear :) but begin to think serious about trying bsd 😊

[@groznytygrys239]

this wallpaper brings back bad memories

[@swindlesmccoop]

Bad memories? I love the show. Rewatching right now actually.

[@tttakkkumi]

What’s it called

[@SimulationNPC]

Are you Casually Explained?

[@DmitriNesterov]

Let's finaly build nVidia driver without linux_compat! Sorry for assuming binary installation without watching video. Watched 7 already, all with linux_load. Let's try one more time :) ping me if I am wrong

[@user-if1gj2wh5c]

the oriemo wallpaper though.....

[@swindlesmccoop]

Problem?

[@user-if1gj2wh5c]

@@swindlesmccoop mogged by eromanga sensei

[@swindlesmccoop]

Yeah...no.

[@DevanandPA-vq1yj]

Most important of all- Where can I get that wallpaper ?

[@nyanux]

oreimo xisters.. we can't stop winning

[@folksurvival]

I wish OpenBSD supported more file types.

[@tttakkkumi]

What does it not support

[@folksurvival]

@@tttakkkumi EXT4 and NTFS the two most important.

[@ttt69420]

​@@folksurvival mount as ext2 read-only. same thing.

[@paul_264]

For puffy 🐡❤️

[@bufordghoons9981]

And I thought I was the only person who refuses to use FreeBSD due to its Devil mascot. Who in FreeBSD World though it would be a good idea to use a symbol of evil to represent the OS? No wonder Theo left that group. Puffy is way more cool! and relates to the defensive aspect of the OS. I use CWM on OpenBSD because it is efficient and simple to use. Along with fvwm, it comes with the default install, no need to pkg_add it.

[@vvvvvvvvvvv631]

Well. It is not a symbol of evil. It is just a christian/western way of demonizing other peoples cultures/religion's entities. Pus....sy

[@bufordghoons9981]

@@vvvvvvvvvvv631 A devil In Western culture, which is my culture and, in my opinion, superior to all others, is a symbol of evil. The devil is another name for Satan of whom Jesus said when talking to the Jews who wanted to kill him: “Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.” Satan is also known as the god of this world: “In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.” This god Satan goes by many names: Queen of Heaven, Allah, Brahma, Buddha, and many other names.

[@lingux_yt]

the only time Beastie ever shows up is on the neofetch screen, and you can change that. I think you guys are overreacting

[@swindlesmccoop]

It's about principle

[@bufordghoons9981]

@@lingux_yt I AM NOT OVERREACTING. I AM NOT. NO NO! I am NOT overreacting to a cartoon image on a computer screen! It is NOT POSSIBLE for me to overreact to ANYTHING. I AM JUST TOO COOL-BRITCHES to do any such thing! NOT NOT nanny-nanny-boo-boo OVERREACTING!!!!!!!! This is serious stuff, my delicate sensibilities of a mascot, and my reaction is calm, rational, and sensible. NOT OVERREACTING! so get that off your plate right now and go to the buffet of happiness where people do NOT overreact!!!

[@francescocerasuolo4064]

You Watch Luke smith.. holy cringe..

[@gogogogogogogogogogog9]

bro i have the exact thinkpad that you have but my fans are 100 even when enabling apmd -L

[@nxkrack955]

do you use startx or xenodm?

[@swindlesmccoop]

When I first started using OpenBSD, I used XenoDM, but since my reinstall I've been using StartX as it is much more minimal. If you want to take a look at the script I have the startx command call, you can find it here: git.cbps.xyz/swindlesmccoop/not-just-dotfiles/src/.config/X11/xinitrc

[@nxkrack955]

@@swindlesmccoop would you mind showing how did you install dwm because I cant even "make install" (i uncommented the mk config line for openbsd but still) total noob btw

[@swindlesmccoop]

@@nxkrack955 Replace your config.mk by running "mv config.mk config.mk.bak && curl -SLO git.io/JE2qW". It should be able to make. What error are you getting?

[@nxkrack955]

@@swindlesmccoop working now. I was dumb just uncommented the wrong stuff ty for your help tho

[@ratakor]

zsh is faster than bash so it's really pointless to use bash, actually if you want a good and really fast shell you could use ksh which is openbsd base shell, or even (d)ash but this is more a sh than a user shell imo.

[@swindlesmccoop]

I used to use zsh but I had some plugins installed and it got really sluggish. Bash is pretty portable and installed by default on pretty much everything, so I just use it since it gives me no issues.

[@svragv]

why do you sound like scrim from the suicideboys and why is the fact that freebsd uses a devil as mascot a reason not to use freebsd

[@RM_1917]

Repent now

[@SgtPiper]

Nah if you want to be truly minimal then you got to go with velox wm

[@SgtPiper]

Nevermind OpenBSD does not have Wayland support

[@swindlesmccoop]

Well it's based on swc which is under X but I will check it out

[@dragos-andreirotaru2316]

I m also using dwm with openbsd

[@bsdjail]

This is not true minimalism, plan9front is!

[@chidaruma_]

Minimal? It comes with cwm by default, why bother installing something else?

[@ttt69420]

cwm is bloat.

[@scratchandgame]

​​@@ttt69420"bloat", what? why?

[@Psx806]

I’m minimalist I’m installing xfce atm.

[@scratchandgame]

cwm > dwm

[@taiga1295]

I think you're an American. Is my guess correct?

[@ignacyhryniewiecki1208]

i mean, how can you call it "minimalism" if you literally spending ⁹/10 of all time configuring stuff?

[@swindlesmccoop]

I barely spend any time configuring anything. I write scripts and sometimes will add things to improve my pre-existing scripts or my DWM build or something but most of the time I'm just doing normal working things. Configuration of your system shouldn't take you longer than a few hours after initial setup.

[@svragv]

good one

[@guisande]

Minimalism ≠ not configuring things.

[@marukoropesu9655]

This openbsd os has a lot of hell lacks about performance and implementation

[@DocLulzson]

It is a BSD Daemon not a Devil lol. Did you know the original OpenBSD mascot before Puffy was also a BSD Daemon. I like the channel but you have to stop the anti FreeBSD propaganda & end BSD on BSD crimes save that stuff for Microsoft or Ubuntu lmfao. 🤣

[@dulcineaadjutant6301]

ρяσмσѕм

[@iuregreciano]

True minimalism because it can't run anything.

[@ttt69420]

What does it need to run? It's a window manager.

[@iuregreciano]

@@ttt69420 I was talking about OpenBSD

[@iuregreciano]

@@ttt69420 most programs

[@scratchandgame]

Because everything is broken

[@scratchandgame]

​@@iuregreciano OpenBSD is not for you. The developers said that