BAD CINDERELLA is coming to broadway | my thoughts on the changes to the Andrew Lloyd Webber musical

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@seanmcgcostumes
@seanmcgcostumes 2 жыл бұрын
As soon as I saw the news I thought, "I wonder how Mickey Jo's doing right now, knowing that his torment continues." 😅👀
@meganisabella14
@meganisabella14 2 жыл бұрын
SAME!!!! he was the first person i thought about after the announcement
@confidentconnor
@confidentconnor 2 жыл бұрын
I third you all on that thought the same thing! 😂
@ellengibson486
@ellengibson486 2 жыл бұрын
Same!!
@gayandmorallygrey
@gayandmorallygrey 2 жыл бұрын
I know right! Me too!
@dizzyella8204
@dizzyella8204 2 жыл бұрын
He can never rest. He will never know peace
@adamcooper5654
@adamcooper5654 2 жыл бұрын
This feels like such a slap in the face to the west end cast. Everything about this production has been messy and to cater to Webber’s ego. Also for what it’s worth I immediately thought of you when I read the news haha.
@hijklmnop42
@hijklmnop42 2 жыл бұрын
Same, I immediately thought "Ohhhhhh daaaaammn I gotta see what MickeyJoTheatre says about this!" ;)
@groveml7
@groveml7 2 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY my thought upon hearing this...
@notverynotoriousg5674
@notverynotoriousg5674 2 жыл бұрын
Andrew Lloyd Weber and JK Rowling could retire to an island paradise never having to work again, and the universe would be fine with their decisions.
@kazza6078
@kazza6078 2 жыл бұрын
It definitely doesn't land for me when any media tries to do the "don't judge everyone on their looks" lesson while very clearly judging every actor on their looks.
@spookyseasonsarah
@spookyseasonsarah 2 жыл бұрын
One of my biggest issues with the original show (based on the cast recording) is that is seems to be championing a really dated perspective of feminism. It's very much giving "I'm not like other girls" and (like you mentioned) putting down all the other women in the show. It was disappointing to hear that they've kept many of those lyrics in the single already. Based on the marketing, the music, and the lyrics, this show feels like it would've done much better 20 years ago, had it come out on the heels of something like Wicked. It's also interesting to see how the spray painting reveal ("I'm your BAD Cinderella") is already becoming a meme on tiktok; it's finally getting its tiktok clout, just maybe not in the way they imagined. I'm curious to see if they'll lean into that campiness or run from it.
@HelenRosemarySmith
@HelenRosemarySmith 2 жыл бұрын
Having seen it, I can confirm it gives that impression in person too. If they hadn't marketed it as a feminist retelling, it maybe wouldn't have been so jarring (though still problematic).
@JB-qf5ep
@JB-qf5ep 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's like they wrote a show to teach us all a really simple lesson that we already learned 25 years ago and have well moved on from. Its intent is preachy and its message is outdated. And that is sad, because the cast that I saw were all really talented and doing the best they could, but the material really screwed them over.
@Mulbert
@Mulbert 2 жыл бұрын
@@JB-qf5ep I agree, I didn't see the show but having listened to the soundtrack all the plastic surgery mentions etc. gave off very noughties slagging off "bimbos" vibes
@arthurbuttons
@arthurbuttons 2 жыл бұрын
You are so right!!!!! Like women are so brilliant and like when we work together and actually support and lift each other up we can achieve such great things. I would love more stories that were more realistic about female relationships. I have so many females around me who are so diverse and we all have different talents and something to bring to the table. It's not realistic to split females into "girls" and "not like other girls". Its actually quite an immature perspective. Reminds me of school. I left school and like catty experiences with girls like that became infrequent and in real life like the majority of people actually support you when your not being treated fairly and maybe someone is being a bit catty.
@samuelblachon95130
@samuelblachon95130 2 жыл бұрын
@@arthurbuttons did you Watched emerald fennell first movie promising young woman ? I'm not surprised about her writing her Cinderella story like this
@rikkifishy
@rikkifishy 2 жыл бұрын
At this point, Cinderella is to you what Turn off the Dark is to Wait in the Wings. You’ll never be free of it.
@calebarsenault382
@calebarsenault382 2 жыл бұрын
I really thought the opening was going to be you sitting down, looking us dead in the eye, and saying "I think Andrew Lloyd Webber hates me"
@racheltfisher
@racheltfisher 2 жыл бұрын
😂
@WiseGuy19
@WiseGuy19 2 жыл бұрын
I'm honestly not sure if it's better to call the show "Bad Cinderella" or not. It's now more clear that it's not R&H's Cinderella, but the critics will certainly have fun with that one if they don't like the show.
@notverynotoriousg5674
@notverynotoriousg5674 2 жыл бұрын
you know the critics are already eye rolling in unison, as is the rest of the universe. there are people like Elton John and Betty White that age with grace and dignity, and then there are people like Andrew Lloyd Weber and JK Rowling.
@Hamilgoth2002
@Hamilgoth2002 2 жыл бұрын
How about “‘Bad Cinderella’ Reviews Itself”
@TSKyanite
@TSKyanite 2 жыл бұрын
Cue the spinal tap "they called it shit sandwich"
@notverynotoriousg5674
@notverynotoriousg5674 2 жыл бұрын
@@chocolatesouljah the older I get the more I realize my opinion just might not matter as much as I think it does, when opinions are a detriment to other people's existence, maybe reflect a bit.
@IvyroseGullwhacker
@IvyroseGullwhacker 2 жыл бұрын
obsessed with the fact that the NY Post critic literally emailed you to ask what the hell was going on in the UK 🤣
@carriew5106
@carriew5106 2 жыл бұрын
Ali Stoker as Cinderella would be epic. I think it's the right vocal range for her, and if they are going to embrace the Amercian accent then she would be fabulous. So much charisma. And what the statement to make, Cinderella in a wheelchair. She is very charming and engaging, full of sass, and has spent her life literally being looked down on.
@callalily3994
@callalily3994 2 жыл бұрын
She's pregnant, so she's not going to be in anything major for a while. I think she's due in November.
@carriew5106
@carriew5106 2 жыл бұрын
@@callalily3994 yeah, I remembered seeing that. But given that it's been cast for the Broadway Original cast maybe she could take the role over? Wishful thinking maybe, but you never know.
@jayedawg
@jayedawg 2 жыл бұрын
I miss read your comment at first, and I thought you said “Bram Stoker’s Cinderella”…THAT would be epic.
@Kiwiberries31
@Kiwiberries31 2 жыл бұрын
I would say yes 100% but the show is cursed lol and she deserves so much better
@carriew5106
@carriew5106 2 жыл бұрын
@@jayedawg ha! That would be very appropriate for this show!
@oblivionfiend2037
@oblivionfiend2037 Жыл бұрын
It's funny coming to this now when the video is 11 months old and my next recommended video is "Bad Cinderella is closing on Broadway!" from just 4 months ago
@carolineh8713
@carolineh8713 2 жыл бұрын
When I heard the news my first thought was “Oh, poor Mickey-Jo” My second thought was “I wish I were a fly on Carrie Hope Fletcher’s wall” 😅👀
@bway_car08
@bway_car08 2 жыл бұрын
This whole situation is so frustrating. I feel so bad for the how the West End cast and crew were treated. I do hope the Broadway cast and crew won’t have to suffer the same fate.
@broadway331
@broadway331 2 жыл бұрын
I actually just listened to “Bad Cinderella” for the first time and holy shit I’m surprised the Rodgers and Hammerstein estates are letting him get away with the melodic similarities to “In My Own Little Corner”. I guess it must be barely under the copyright limit. They have to do some sort of stunt casting to even HOPE of treading above water financially this Broadway season. It’s been dire. Linedy is more of an up-and-comer than a household name, or even a theater nerd name. The “I’m-not-like-other-girls” brand of feminism in this show is really outdated. It may have worked in the early 2000s, but it doesn’t really work now.
@megangrace1405
@megangrace1405 2 жыл бұрын
I've just listened to in my own little corner for the first time as I've never listened to r+h cinderella before and I was shook when I heard the similarities between the two
@alextirrellRI
@alextirrellRI 2 жыл бұрын
The rhythm is identical but the notes are different/varied enough to sway any legal concerns. In this state it is what I would consider a musical parody of R&H. (And tons of shows do make reference to other shows/songs!)
@JoneseyBanana
@JoneseyBanana 2 жыл бұрын
Bad Cinderella has always reminded me of the melody in We Are One, in The Lion King 2
@quadling3521
@quadling3521 2 жыл бұрын
“I’m not like other girls” was never feminism. It comes from men writing women and writing women they find desirable - “not like other women” coming from associated negative things with femininity.
@georges1991
@georges1991 6 ай бұрын
@@alextirrellRI yeah it seems like a reference to a classic iteration rather than plagiarism
@swiftfirebolt6922
@swiftfirebolt6922 2 жыл бұрын
When you think there can't be anymore drama about Cinderella!
@samuelking9343
@samuelking9343 2 жыл бұрын
Long may it's Broadway run! Longer than the West End run, let's hope.
@finsfables
@finsfables 2 жыл бұрын
This has become essentially a saga of Cinderella on the Mickey jo theater KZbin channel
@djhedgepath7967
@djhedgepath7967 2 жыл бұрын
You are correct about some of the words and phrases that, us, Americans, don't say ("barking mad," "no one a nutter," etc), so I understand some of the lyric changes. But something about this version seems off to me.
@LeodeGuillebon-fu7dk
@LeodeGuillebon-fu7dk Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I've been fascinated by the Bad Cinderella story since seeing the show on Broadway and you've provided SO MUCH amazing insights and context. Love all your videos... I hope you come back to New York soon!!
@MrBungee
@MrBungee 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for continuing to cover Broadway stuff from the other side of the world better than most outlets here.
@KAIMAOFFICIAL
@KAIMAOFFICIAL 2 жыл бұрын
I was so excited to hear your thoughts on this. The whole thing just leaves a bad taste in my mouth what with how quickly they’ve done the transfer, not leaving any time for the dust to settle from ALW’s awful treatment of the west end cast! You’ve got to think.. the poor old west end cast watching the news and realising that even though they spoke up about his mistreatment, because he is rich and white he can just carry on like nothing happened which is quite frankly appalling… and the cast that were meant to take over as well! No time to tell them the show was closing but enough time to pull together a ‘changed’ broadway version… I wish the broadway cast nothing but the best, but I honestly feel for the west end cast so much who did SUCH a good job with what they were handed, and had to stand on stage with none of the creative team on closing night and hear that their best efforts were a ‘costly mistake’.. like dude… let. The. Dust. Settle. His lack of care for the west end cast just becomes more and more blatant with each new Cinderella move he makes. They deserved better because it was the cast that carried the show, and each other through everything. They shouldn’t have had to go through all of that and now have to watch him drop them *so quickly* to move on to something ‘fresher’. But this is no fault of the broadway cast, of course and I wish them luck. But the west end cast deserved better. It’s like watching an abusive ex that dumped YOU move on with someone new far too soon. It’s icky.
@HelenRosemarySmith
@HelenRosemarySmith 2 жыл бұрын
Yep it's so unfair he can just waltz over there and open a show like nothing happened.
@samuelblachon95130
@samuelblachon95130 2 жыл бұрын
@@HelenRosemarySmith life is so unfair
@callalily3994
@callalily3994 2 жыл бұрын
In terms of ALW's reputation in the US, I think he's mostly thought of as commercially successful but not really artistically successful -- like, when I was a teenager in the nineties, there was already a gatekeeping sort of "Your favorite show is Phantom/Cats? Obviously not a *real* theatre fan" thing going on -- those were "tourist shows," which was the highest insult. (Joseph and JCS were OK, though I think we mostly thought of Joseph as a show for kids. We only vaguely remembered Starlight Express as "That was weird, right?") I've also noticed that the US doesn't really have an ALW fanbase of the sort that I've seen from a few UK accounts on Twitter -- the sort of, "How DARE you say anything bad about him?!?!" vibe. Like, there are people here who love Phantom, but I haven't seen that sort of fandom around him personally.
@callalily3994
@callalily3994 2 жыл бұрын
And on "barking mad," we don't really use that phrase much in the US, though I'd assume most people would understand what it means (though I've been wrong on assumptions like that before.) I do know at least two Americans who listened to CHF's version and, between the phrase being not quite as familiar and her accent mostly eliminating the R sound, they thought she was saying "fucking mad." Ab Fab is kind of a cult hit here -- there are people who know it and love it, but I don't think it's well-known enough for people to immediately realize, "Oh, that's what that's referencing."
@callalily3994
@callalily3994 2 жыл бұрын
Also, the "I'm not ya Cinderella -- I'm ya BAD Cinderella" and the spray-painting at the press conference really seemed like stereotypes of how "urban youth" talk from like 1994. She had to be internally wincing so much delivering those lines that way. Kind of fits with the "Obscenely wealthy elderly white man tries to connect with what he thinks The Youth Of Today want to watch" vibe that I've been getting from a lot of stuff related to this show.
@spookyseasonsarah
@spookyseasonsarah 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, I think even now it's still very much the vibe of "Your favorite show is Phantom? You must be brand new to theater". (and I say that as someone who enjoys Phantom lol)
@callalily3994
@callalily3994 2 жыл бұрын
@@spookyseasonsarah When I was in college, and a friend from North Dakota was coming to visit me in NJ over the summer, and she said she wanted to see a Broadway show, I was like, "Sure, absolutely! Which one do you want to see?" and then when she was about to answer, I added, "But not Les Mis or Phantom," and she was like, "Oh. Let me think about it, then." (We ended up seeing Rent, which we both loved.) (I love Les Mis, but I'd already seen it four times at that point. And seeing Phantom was like going to Olive Garden in Times Square, in my mind at the time.)
@AKMorehouse
@AKMorehouse 2 жыл бұрын
There’s a lot about this show that makes me go 😬, and while I don’t want to be a pessimist, I don’t foresee it doing well on Broadway. Tourist usually go for the well known shows (Phantom, Wicked, Hamilton , etc.), the ones with big name stars (Music Man, Funny Girl, etc.), or the ones based on things they already like (MJ, Moulin Rouge, anything Disney, etc.). ALW ‘s association with this production will have a minimal impact on sales to tourists and locals alike. Those who live locally and/or have more of appreciation for Broadway are going to be the ppl who are this first and make the decision to hype it up or shut it down. Also the Imperial is a smaller Broadway theater (the last production there was Ain’t too Proud), so the staging, set, choreography, etc. is going to need to be changed (which I don’t think is going to be in this show’s favor). Broadway like the West End is in a bit of an economic crisis (right now there is an unusual amount of black marquise in the theater district) so if the show struggled in London, IDK why ALW thinks it will do better in NY (especially when this show does not have any tourist drawn compared to other shows currently on or coming to Broadway in the next 6 months).
@joegiuffre6271
@joegiuffre6271 2 жыл бұрын
Being in the industry, I can honestly say that Sir Andrew is pretty much reviled as a person. Evita and Superstar are admired, and Phantom although successful was made fun of by actors. Andrews's treatment of actors from Patty Lupone on down has been horrific and so he is not well liked in or out of the industry
@chocolatesouljah
@chocolatesouljah 2 жыл бұрын
4:46 - A quick note that Rodgers + Hammerstein's Cinderella was not a revival but the first Broadway production in 2013. 3 TV productions came first then the Broadway debut.
@joeevans5770
@joeevans5770 2 жыл бұрын
A mickey jo theatre drama video on my birthday what a treat
@MickeyJoTheatre
@MickeyJoTheatre 2 жыл бұрын
Happy Birthday! Have a stagey day 🥳
@LoraK31
@LoraK31 2 жыл бұрын
I think my biggest issue with the musical is that the conflict just boils down to an "everything would be solved in two seconds if they just talked" kind of thing. They'd really have to do a huge overhaul of the story to make it have more impact, which I doubt ALW would do. I just hope he treats the US cast better than then UK one when this inevitably gets at least a few bad reviews.
@ellaburrell8560
@ellaburrell8560 2 жыл бұрын
I was literally just watching the video from a couple of weeks ago about Phantoms closure thinking 'I wonder when Mickey Jo will do a video about Bad Cinderella?' and then I clicked on his channel page after finishing the video and here it is!
@petegryzie2046
@petegryzie2046 2 жыл бұрын
Something interesting (I think) to note, is that the R&H Cinderella films are actually not “adaptations”! The Julie Andrews film version was where that score premiered and the stage version was the adaptation 😜
@CP-mb3sn
@CP-mb3sn 2 жыл бұрын
Was eagerly anticipating your take, you don't disappoint!
@celestiastra13
@celestiastra13 2 жыл бұрын
This is very much giving... ALW going through his "how do you do fellow kids" phase
@jessk187
@jessk187 2 жыл бұрын
I don't hate the new colors in marketing, and I definitely think the new title is a good choice. I am hoping they go deeper with changes to the show beyond changes to the lyrics and script.
@scottishtan
@scottishtan 2 жыл бұрын
Re: wanting to see a disabled Cinderella: I got to see a local production of Rodgers and Hammerstein's Cinderella with Jenna Bainbridge in the title role. As a disabled woman myself, it was powerful to see such a talented disabled actress in this role, and I hope future versions of Cinderella on stage consider similar casting.
@rebieroo99
@rebieroo99 2 жыл бұрын
we went 3 whole months without hearing him say, 'my cinderella' it was going so well. i want to know what this show has against public workshops doing some before the west end after the invite-only, if they did might have stopped all of this to get public opinion, one should have been done between the west end closure and yesterday's announcement to test the new and changed stuff.
@jennivamp5
@jennivamp5 2 жыл бұрын
Lord Webber, ask the opinion... of the PUBLIC?! Don't be absurd! 🧐 What could there possibly be that needs testing? When the Great Lloyd Webber has blessed the huddled masses with the brilliance of his music! 🤣
@rebeccadeal2560
@rebeccadeal2560 2 жыл бұрын
So much joy (not to mention a little excited squeak) when you mentioned Soho Cinders 😁 Love that show so much!!!
@jessiepkwz
@jessiepkwz 2 жыл бұрын
linedy said she’s known about her role since february 16th this 2022, this has been in the works for a good while! especially a long time before the abrupt west end closing
@HelenRosemarySmith
@HelenRosemarySmith 2 жыл бұрын
whoa :O
@gayandmorallygrey
@gayandmorallygrey 2 жыл бұрын
Where did you see this? Can you remember?
@nebulacoffee
@nebulacoffee 2 жыл бұрын
@@gayandmorallygrey The Playbill KZbin channel has the interview if you search for her name. It shows her spray painting the letters and then talking about her casting afterwards and she mentions the date.
@jessiepkwz
@jessiepkwz 2 жыл бұрын
@@gayandmorallygrey i saw it on her ig post announcing the part! (sorry for the late reply)
@25971yqop
@25971yqop 2 жыл бұрын
I have literally watched every Cinderella video you have done since the first and it has been RELENTLESS! But absolutely love the videos none the less! Thank you!
@meghardy2646
@meghardy2646 2 жыл бұрын
Please fly to New York and review it for us! Do it for us, Micky! 😂xx
@carriew5106
@carriew5106 2 жыл бұрын
When I saw there was ANOTHER video on Cinderella ngl, I swore aloud. Then I saw the title has changed and I swore again. I just hope that the cast and crew of the Broadway show are treated much much better than the West End cast.
@chrissyr8387
@chrissyr8387 2 жыл бұрын
So...He literally screwed over his original cast and crew, set everything on fire, ended Phantom of the Opera...just to get the show he claimed was a "costly mistake " to Broadway...I hope this all goes well for the new cast and crew
@mwmheps
@mwmheps 2 жыл бұрын
I do agree the new title makes a lot of sense but it is also objectively hilarious 😂😂
@Showtunediva
@Showtunediva 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t wait to hear your thoughts on R&H Cinderella when you see the show. I was in a community production of it near my hometown in 2021 and I love the music especially It’s Possible and 10 Minutes Ago. I am intrigued to see Bad Cinderella on Broadway. Thanks for your review.❤
@brennanmaynard4237
@brennanmaynard4237 2 жыл бұрын
It’s really a bunch of annoying changes. The title song doesn’t sound very well: From a compositional standpoint, the new lyrics for “Bad Cinderella” sound dumbed down and prosodically awkward. It’s a really disappointing downgrade from the quality words and poetry used in the London version. As far as I am concerned, the London version is thus more valid. It’s just a better song. They removed what must’ve basically been perceived as “Anglicisms” that Americans wouldn’t understand, but that’s dumb. We speak English-we know what the word “catty” means. Also, “barking mad” is not a phrase we use, but we totally understand it.
@Steela100
@Steela100 2 жыл бұрын
I was like “bad Cinderella? A self own. Those are rare”
@angelawhitehouse8066
@angelawhitehouse8066 2 жыл бұрын
Can't help wondering if the next iteration will be Desperate Cinderella.....
@schrire39
@schrire39 2 жыл бұрын
“Bad Cinderella” tune borrows as much from the chorus of Nic Kershaw’s “The Riddle” as it does from R&H’s “In my own little corner”
@lyndafeustel4861
@lyndafeustel4861 2 жыл бұрын
I’m literally obsessing over this news so much that I drafted a whole article about it for my blog
@radishraccoon3657
@radishraccoon3657 2 жыл бұрын
I really know nothing about the show beyond listening to the cast recording once, but the casting of the lead strikes me as entirely in tune with the whole vibe I get from the show. It seems to be the musical theatre embodiment of the "I'm not like other girls" trope. A conventionally attractive girl is mildly rebellious or unimpressed with society, so she is THE WEIRD GIRL who is just SO CRAZY. It feels like this show could have worked 30 years ago, but today... And I'm sorry but if your actual name is Cinderella then "Bad Cinderella" is the most underwhelming and uninspired attempt at a (mean) nickname I can possibly imagine. Everything about this show just seems so cringeworthy! ALW is the "how do you do, fellow kids" meme personified.
@EmeraldAshesAudio
@EmeraldAshesAudio 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. It makes so much more sense when her name is Ella and Cinderella is the catty nickname.
@nebulacoffee
@nebulacoffee 2 жыл бұрын
Yes!! 😂You've summed up my thoughts exactly. Thank you for this comment! It feels like such a ridiculously out-of-touch cash-grab.
@lillianward2810
@lillianward2810 2 жыл бұрын
Barking mad isn’t a phrase used often in the States but it’s not like we don’t know what it means. I find it weird how many shows are rewriting their scores to get rid of the Britishisms, especially when it’s something very small and cosmetic.
@callalily3994
@callalily3994 2 жыл бұрын
Which other shows have done that? The only one I know of is Six (where the changes were fairly small, but I think most of them were necessary). Are there others? (I know that Legally Blonde did it in the other direction -- changed a bunch of American references when they went to the UK.)
@arthurbuttons
@arthurbuttons 2 жыл бұрын
I completely understand what your saying about the appearance thing. It's kind of difficult to have a really conventionally beautiful woman playing a character who is allegedly being bullied and abused for being ugly. It sometimes it actually makes you think "well if she's ugly what am I?" I know that's not a healthy thought but it is a thought and it is difficult that it sort of seems to be being reinforced. I think it would be so nice to have a lady that was different and maybe not what society would traditionally assume was beautiful playing the lead role and being able to overcome obstacles based on her being fabulous and something other than "gorgeous". Like I feel that would be more inspiring. I don't know.
@iluvcheezitsheyhey
@iluvcheezitsheyhey 2 жыл бұрын
I’m so sorry that you’ve gone through so much but I cackled when I saw it was 28 minutes. I’m ready for this entire shebang.
@Vertigotheatre1
@Vertigotheatre1 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, everyone on every theatre message board said it should be called Bad Cinderella when it opened.
@ShatteredMirror
@ShatteredMirror 2 жыл бұрын
ALW's Cinderella: *exists* MickeyJoTheatre: and I took that personally.
@ShatteredMirror
@ShatteredMirror 2 жыл бұрын
For real, though, your responses and issues and criticism with this musical (and ALW) have always been so measured and sensible and honest, and I've appreciated all of it. However, the way you apparently cannot escape this show ever in your life now is very, very funny.
@jacobrivera-sanchez5121
@jacobrivera-sanchez5121 2 жыл бұрын
I think the dress of the original West End logo is also supposed to look like a W for Webber. And now it’s an A in the word BAD. So it makes sense that they would like to keep the letter concept. And I’m familiar with the artist’s other work, and this concept of using it as a letter seems very intentional.
@daisywynn477
@daisywynn477 2 жыл бұрын
I literally searched for this video as soon as I heard the news yesterday- knew you’d post it pretty quickly haha
@thomasmurphy83
@thomasmurphy83 2 жыл бұрын
The saving grace was them deciding to not go ahead and replace Phantom with this. Still, what an odd scenario all around.
@maryluke8611
@maryluke8611 2 жыл бұрын
Even though Phantom has been sort of stumbling along it still had the original sets and full orchestra. There's no way Bad Cinderella can replace Phantom.
@citrinedragonfly
@citrinedragonfly 2 жыл бұрын
Just based on the London Soundtrack for ALW's Cinderella, it could go over well here. It's a VERY ALW show - that was the first reaction that my wife had upon listening to the soundtrack on KZbin's official channel a few months back, and both her parents have done ALW shows over their careers. If the things you mention are addressed, and if certain songs are sped up, it'll be catchier. It's going to get buzz because of the timing (do you get tickets for one of Phantom's final nights, or Bad Cinderella's opening nights?), but I'm not sure otherwise. I think if it toured, I'd try and nab tickets, but going all the way up to NYC for it... I mean, maybe if we can snag closing Phantom tickets? It would depend on the prices. I hate how poorly the cast and crew in London were treated, though.
@emjbrown87
@emjbrown87 2 жыл бұрын
The biggest question... Will you be going to find out how it differs in person? I echo the luck you wish the cast. Feel they are gonna need all the positivity they can get 😬
@MickeyGirl518
@MickeyGirl518 2 жыл бұрын
The new marketing looks like the Disney Cruella Marketing and it makes my eyes hurt😂 honestly I was so excited for the original, and living close to Manhattan I initially hoped it would transfer but after everything that’s happened I definitely won’t be seeing this unless major things are addressed
@charlotterichardson3413
@charlotterichardson3413 2 жыл бұрын
Saw news about 'Bad Cinderella' .... ran straight to youtube to find Mickeys reaction 😂
@jenicat55
@jenicat55 2 жыл бұрын
Petition to get show-score to send you across to Broadway to review it please!!
@karenpf5206
@karenpf5206 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@messinadress
@messinadress 2 жыл бұрын
I think my biggest question would be, knowing all of the drama that went down in the UK, what sensible, experienced Broadway star would WANT to be involved with this production? Will they want to steer clear or will the draw of ALW lead them like moths to the flame?
@maddiemaccheese8170
@maddiemaccheese8170 2 жыл бұрын
I'm fully on board with the title change but the irony isn't lost on me, and it's hilarious
@IshScout
@IshScout 2 жыл бұрын
First I NEED a reaction video to the new Into The Woods Broadway cast recording because it's amazing. Now as far as Bad Cinderella goes the new lyrics in the verses don't bother me that much (it feels like it was done to make it less British which makes sense) HOWEVER the repeating chorus that just feels like a weird wink to Defying Gravity is a bit more baffling unless she's going to start climbing buildings in the staging of the song or something. The new color scheme could work if they really lean into the punk/rebel aspect with the marketing & new additions/changes to the show itself. Hell I'd change the setting of Belleville to be more urban & modernize it a bit to push the "wrong side of the tracks" graffiti is all over the part she lives in to start with. As far as casting goes I just want a good diverse cast with maybe an unknown as the Prince. This could end up being a huge mess but I'm here for the ride.
@joolaine
@joolaine 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure Colleen is even available. She JUST announced tour dates for the first months of 2023.
@susananderson104
@susananderson104 2 жыл бұрын
Really like your vlogs you have a wide knowledge of theatre
@Frank-in-PalmSprings
@Frank-in-PalmSprings 2 жыл бұрын
Oh my God, Hey! I'm in NYC for 2 days this week, here is my schedule: Here we go: Mat today: 1776 (diverse casting) Eve today: Strange Loop. Mat Thurs: Phantom of Opera Thurs eve: Beetlejuice I feel like MickeyJo at a festival! 😊
@Kimberly_Sparkles
@Kimberly_Sparkles 2 жыл бұрын
AbFab was huge in the 1990s in the US. It would definitely land with the normal core audience of musicals...at least those of us who remember the 1990s.
@brendan-kailerlieb4347
@brendan-kailerlieb4347 2 жыл бұрын
While the series was popular on tv, I don't think it holds an appeal for this country on a large scale. When the film was released in 2016 it only grossed $4.6 million in the United States.
@ParisDakota
@ParisDakota 2 жыл бұрын
I consider myself fairly well versed in pop culture, but I had never heard of it before the film came out a few years ago. And I'm not too terribly young either at 34, so I think it would be a very dated reference to Americans.
@kallen868
@kallen868 2 жыл бұрын
I'm American and love AB-FAB! Back in the 90's my roommates surprised me with a boxed VHS set of the first couple of seasons! Best gift ever.
@overworked30407
@overworked30407 2 жыл бұрын
MJT! I saw your review of the west end production and when i read the headline of "Bad Cinderella" coming to the US i immediately thought "MickeyJo is going to have some thoughts about this!!!"
@w.k.astrolabe280
@w.k.astrolabe280 2 жыл бұрын
The name change too could be for the Americans who know who Carrie Hope Fletcher is. She was really big in the 2010s on youtube. If you type in "bad cinderella" you get an image of her singing the song. A lot of people have not heard about the bad things that happened to the show (unless they are SUPER into theater). All old Carrie Hope Fletcher fans will see is her and Andrew Lloyd Weber and assume it's all good.
@fienockers6038
@fienockers6038 2 жыл бұрын
I was already waiting for this video!!!!!
@laurenjcoates
@laurenjcoates 2 жыл бұрын
As soon as i saw the announcement on tiktok, i was waiting on this vid lmao
@nikkinorman5937
@nikkinorman5937 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@nikkinorman5937
@nikkinorman5937 2 жыл бұрын
Love all of your videos, and it was one of your Cinderella ones that got me onto your channel. Probably should have seen Six *before* I got into your channel, as I was sat during the last song slightly bewildered as to why they were singing a version of your outro 😂 Keep up the cracking work.
@kazza6078
@kazza6078 2 жыл бұрын
Plus sized actors (esp as ROMANTIC LEADS) in literally everything, pleeease.
@Mulbert
@Mulbert 2 жыл бұрын
I was saying to my sister that I hope one day plus size actors are standardly cast in major lead roles where their size isn't even mentioned, it's just a physical fact unworthy of notice like if someone was short or tall. I'm fat and would really like to play a lead in a local theatre production (if I passed the audition obviously!) but I don't think I'll ever be able to at this size which is depressing. I was the nurse in a high school production of Romeo & Juliet and had a great time but I'd have loved to be Juliet, even at 14 knew I never could be though which sucked.
@jericlark5855
@jericlark5855 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. Please let’s promote even more obesity in this country.
@kazza6078
@kazza6078 2 жыл бұрын
@@jericlark5855 hi people like you have made me wish i were dead since I was 8 so kindly go to hell. No one is promoting obesity no one has ever promoted obesity this is just the stupidest point. Why aren't you concerned about anorexia? Bulimia? The never ending barrage of harassment leading to depression and unaliving tendencies OBVIOUSLY much more common towards fat people than thin people? You don't care AT ALL about anyone's welfare so again kindly go to hell and rot.
@RachelMay1989
@RachelMay1989 2 жыл бұрын
Mickey Jo is like Michael Corleone in Godfather III and (Bad) Cinderella is the Mafia Family. "Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in!"
@bethcollihole577
@bethcollihole577 2 жыл бұрын
hey king, beautiful voice akin to an angel. from, BC
@leahgraham1294
@leahgraham1294 2 жыл бұрын
Just listened to the new version of Bad Cinderella and I’m like…Ok? I feel the original was more powerful and the new version lacks nuance (which I never thought I would write about this show) and is very straight to the I’m a loner, I don’t care, hate me vibe.
@HelenRosemarySmith
@HelenRosemarySmith 2 жыл бұрын
I know I was like - is the new version now making me defend the writing of the old one? 😅
@madelyn.mckean
@madelyn.mckean 2 жыл бұрын
i know this is random but you should start a podcast and upload the videos as an audio because i feel like that would be amazing and so fun! i love your videos though!!! 😊
@theforgottencompanion
@theforgottencompanion 2 жыл бұрын
When my mum and I saw cinderella back in September of 2021 she asked me 3 numbers in if the show was named bad cinderella or just cinderella since they pretty much always sang bad Cinderella; so changing the name feels like a logical move from that perspective
@samuelblachon95130
@samuelblachon95130 2 жыл бұрын
The uk version will Always be in my heart as the first west end show i've seen
@musicalmeg19
@musicalmeg19 2 жыл бұрын
ALW just needs to have something on Broadway, hence the one-day overlap with Phantom. He wants to have some sort of presence in NY until he figures out the future of Phantom. Not sure this is the correct choice.
@Kari_Grey
@Kari_Grey Жыл бұрын
As a designer with quite a big experience, till you talked about negative opinions about the spray paint logo I had no idea that anybody could criticize that. Idea-wise that's brilliant. You get 3-in-1 and that's always hard to get.
@EmyMay96
@EmyMay96 2 жыл бұрын
So do we need to start a crowd funder for mickey to go to New York and review?
@sarahfitzgerald5558
@sarahfitzgerald5558 2 жыл бұрын
The removal of barking mad makes sense to me.. weren't there a lot of people who misheard the lyric as 'f**king mad Cinderella'?
@brosandprose
@brosandprose 2 жыл бұрын
This show is so cursed and has such bad karma that I am amazed they thought this was a financial risk worth taking, especially given the rocky financial state of Broadway right now.
@kazza6078
@kazza6078 2 жыл бұрын
Making the new star spray paint 'bad' onto the poster feels very tired and cheesy. I hope she comes out of this in a good way
@bethcollihole577
@bethcollihole577 2 жыл бұрын
to be honest, i founf put about this musival today so my thoughts are still cookin' heres a list: -bad cinderella rhymes with dad cinderalla -i shoild xcall my dad from,Beth
@harrisonfletcher4218
@harrisonfletcher4218 2 жыл бұрын
that is e rylly nice thought betH. from,Harrison
@jwindsor6274
@jwindsor6274 2 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for you to talk about this 😆
@pinkiBaerchen
@pinkiBaerchen 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I was convinced the show has been called Bad Cinderella from the beginning. Please tell me I'm not the only one 😅
@JoniVasquez
@JoniVasquez 2 жыл бұрын
I am so curious about the shoes in the new logo! In the UK version she's wearing the combat boots that she wears throughout the show and in the new logo Cinderella is in very obvious heels. I wonder if they are planning on changing her characterization somehow with this because it seems like a very conscious move.
@alison5673
@alison5673 2 жыл бұрын
I have a feeling Todrick Hall might be cast as one of the princes because he was in the audience sitting next to ALW at the preview performance of cinderella that I saw last year and I know he did a recording of ‘only you’ at some point. He’d be a good ticket draw and I know he is friendly with Colleen as well so that is why I believe her casting rumour too!
@anne_bckmnn
@anne_bckmnn 2 жыл бұрын
omg really? Who would Colleen play though?
@charlottem1430
@charlottem1430 2 жыл бұрын
@@anne_bckmnn one of the sisters i imagine
@alison5673
@alison5673 2 жыл бұрын
@@anne_bckmnn apparently one of the step sisters
@itsreelydalin
@itsreelydalin 2 жыл бұрын
The moment this got announced, I was anxious to hear your thoughts. Personally, while I agree the name change is good to separate the IP’s/shows, I wish he could have figured out something that wasn’t gonna be so easy for the critics to rip apart. Because, while the irony is hilarious, NY critics will not be kind to this show (or that’s just my guess.)
@MadameCorgi
@MadameCorgi 2 жыл бұрын
The new logo looks alright at the press event when it's on a white background but I don't like the red and pink together on the other one. I really enjoy commentary on this show, which is unusual because I don't think's very good. Perhaps it's the unpredictability that makes it interesting to follow
@disneydanny2
@disneydanny2 2 жыл бұрын
what makes me think that Andrew will find some way to get Sierra Boggess into the Broadway cast
@anne_bckmnn
@anne_bckmnn 2 жыл бұрын
I kinda see her in the show though 😂
@beltingtokra
@beltingtokra 2 жыл бұрын
She'd make an excellent Queen!
@lostgirlcosplay14
@lostgirlcosplay14 2 жыл бұрын
Your shirt reminded me this: that Bad Cinderella is coming to Broadway but not The Prince of Egypt...which in my opinion would sell more tickets.
@evaflorentia3998
@evaflorentia3998 2 жыл бұрын
I saw this on alws account and as soon as I saw this I thought “Mickey jo is going to cry.”
@jasminda2401
@jasminda2401 2 жыл бұрын
Lol I was waiting for this as soon as I heard the news.
@elliemonks2331
@elliemonks2331 2 жыл бұрын
ALW changing Cinderella so much for Broadway gives the same vibes as a man leaving his family and starting all over again with a new one…
@ChienaAvtzon
@ChienaAvtzon Жыл бұрын
Just watch it flop on Broadway. I live in Brooklyn, saw a poster for “Bad Cinderella”, and it looked so tacky. Andrew Lloyd Webber is not that popular with American audiences. His shows play better with foreign tourists, especially those who English is not their first language. After all, it was an American review trashed this show.
@lifecoachabuserecovery7815
@lifecoachabuserecovery7815 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for helping me feel closer to the West End from across the Atlantic!
@meganhartten8291
@meganhartten8291 2 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to share that I really love your videos! And this American LOVES Ab Fab!
@JustSomeDude1213
@JustSomeDude1213 2 жыл бұрын
16:47 Just saw her in On Your Feet yesterday on a field trip, she was fantastic. I don't really know anything about bad cinderella but i would love to see her again.
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