Opera Singer Plays His First Sonic Game Ever [Sonic X Shadow Generations] Finishing Shadow!

[@twistedbeast4102]

When Marco was talking in chaos island about “what is Sonic music” Man that actually kinda got me thinking for a bit because like, Sonic is never the same soundscape for every game. Every Sonic game kinda goes for something different in each of its soundtracks Sonic unleashed is based on world culture and jazzy night music Frontiers is a very calm atmosphere in the main hubs but with EDM mini levels and scream metal for bosses 06 has a very heavy chorus and more serous tone with sometimes ominus tracks Lost world has very happy and upbeat tone with more of a pop to it. SA2 actually changes depending on the character your playing as and giving them their own music style to represent each character. It’s different for every game, asking what music is sonic is hard to pinpoint cause Sonic is constantly changing and evolving over time. Maybe you could argue rock is a constant but that style of rock also changes. I mean just look at the vocal tracks from games in the past like metal overloads theme compared to the most recent frontiers themes. Sonic is a series that plays with genres. It doesn’t like to stay constant, it’s ever changing and I love it for that. Generation is like a love child to that change because it’s taking elements from all of those different styles and turning it into something new again.

[@starsilverinfinity]

When you put it like that, its almost as if Sonic's songs are always chasing after the blue blur himself, changing as they go like the scenery as it flashes by a speedster like himself.

[@seyron5466]

I totally agree

[@JukeboxJaw_]

Regarding the IGN review of Unleashed, IGN later went on to apologize for the poor reviews basically admitting it was all for the memes. The games were never given a fair chance. Unleashed is amazing.

[@AntolaRes]

do you have any proof for this my guy?

[@cristianovogt5586]

​@@AntolaRes My guy, it was literally trending everywhere when it happen, they even fired off the guy who made the review.

[@Axxidous]

@@AntolaResSo, no. lol You know how people are in the comments.

[@AntolaRes]

@@cristianovogt5586 you literally gave no proof or videos

[@demomantf2476]

​@@AntolaRes Google exists? And yes, it is real.

[@reginlief1]

I’ve been following your sonic journey but haven’t heard you sing yet… I knew you were an opera singer but it STILL took me by surprise. A fantastic voice that blew me away!

[@TheAlphazoneYT]

Bro needs to play Sonic Unleashed right now. The soundtrack alone will have him coming back for more

[@meltatron9794]

until he gets into the 30 min night level and figures out about the ONLY battle song.

[@FuzHammer]

Sonic Unleashed is pretty difficult even for more experienced fans if Marco's having difficulty with Mania I'd suggest leaving that one for later and just listening to the ost

[@TheAlphazoneYT]

@@meltatron9794 Eggmanland doesn’t even take that long if you actually know what you’re doing. People have exaggerated how long Werehog stages actually are. You can get through them quickly if you utilize the moveset. People who sit there & mash the same combo “because it works” are the ones dumbfounded as to why the levels take so long.

[@meltatron9794]

@@TheAlphazoneYT as you said, "if you know what are you doing" which isn't what anyone would play the first time.

[@TheAlphazoneYT]

@meltatron9794 You are right. But that goes for every video game ever. First play through is a learning experience. Idk why that would be a problem or treated any differently for Unleashed.

[@TruBluBlur]

The main draw for Sonic Frontiers for longtime fans was the celebration of sega hiring a new writer who had an actual love of the series. The previous writers had admitted that they'd never played the games, and their writing was pretty consistently bad. For reference, they owed their initial success to HAPPY TREE FRIENDS, for those who don't know, a sort of... I guess slapstic style humor cartoon, but with hyperviolece and hyper gore. No one knows why sega thought they would be a good fit for Sonic. Frontiers was the new writer's debut game, so it was more focused on his storytelling than anything else. A lot of the gameplay is ripped pretty directly from Zelda Brrath of the Wild. For new fans (and the older fans who weren't there for the new writing necessarily), the bosses are easily the best part of the game. They're all VERY epic, and do an amazing job of making the player feel incredibly powerful

[@DeadEye364]

Seeing him messing with the sound settings to maximize how much he can hear What I'm Made Of just makes me so happy.

[@Obi-Wan_Kenobi]

Timestamp pls?

[@DeadEye364]

Roughly 1:13:50

[@Blueblurz]

This is the first Sonic game that made me cry

[@BrandonGiesing]

3rd for me, the ending of Unleashed and Frontiers fucked me up. This is definitely the best execution though

[@FujiMezu]

@@BrandonGiesingdefinitely

[@digitalcap8123]

Frontiers,unleshed,Sonic x shadow, Sonic o filme 1 e 2 todos me fizeram chorar e a lista e maior Sonic e muito bom

[@zy1an]

the emotion was definitely there. I'm so glad sonic team has proved they can still do moving stories

[@_SSCJ]

Suggestions for next Sonic games: - Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 ( I mean you have to) - Sonic Unleashed ( Probably tied with this game as my favorite) - Sonic origins (Basically all the classic games) - Sonic Mania(I think I heard you play it so idk) - Sonic Colors(Not great in story but pretty good in gameplay and ESPECIALLY in ost)

[@Skylancer727]

For SA1 you should really get Better SADX. It even adds in the true CD quality audio to the game from the original Dreamcast version. Many also recommend the DC conversio but I think the lantern lighting engine or mimic textures are more necessary. Still it does give it more the authentic experience.

[@BrandonGiesing]

Regarding the whole Frontiers discussion at the start, Shadow Generations is literally just the same gameplay basically as Frontiers just Frontiers is slightly less polished since it came earlier and was the first game with said formula. So if you like Shadow, Frontiers should be near the same. They said it will be the foundation of basically every Sonic game for the next 10 years just like Boost was for the previous decade. It’s called “Open Zone” gameplay, the whole loop is you explore and do puzzles/challenges in an open world while then playing the older “Boost” style gameplay of Generations, Colors, Unleashed, etc. as essentially bonus levels that let you progress further. Just Shadow being a “sequel” to Generations basically flips it around so the Open Zone is more the bonus while the levels are the main thing. Plus it’s a way smaller experience with only one Open Zone instead of multiple islands. I will say music wise though, the game definitely has a lot more than just somber piano tracks and the heavy metal boss fights. It’s probably the most diverse OST in Sonic history, EDM, Orchestral, Pop, Rock, etc. The Soundtrack literally has 150+ songs and that’s before you get to the free story DLC update that added like 60 more. As for the open world music “not having Sonic vibes”, that’s kinda the point. It’s supposed to feel like these mysterious islands where Sonic is very out of place in (hence also the super realistic, non-colorful graphics), it’s an intentional part of the story beat. Also as for the music Jukebox thing, that was added in a free update as a bonus collectable to encourage people to replay the game, it’s not intended to be used “by default” on a first playthrough really. So many things got added like extra hard map challenges, a boss rush, the birthday graphics, a cooking minigame, New Game Plus, an Extreme difficulty mode, Jukebox, more collectable Koco, and the above mentioned story expansion that adds like an extra 5 hours on top of the already like 20 hours the base game is.

[@cristianovogt5586]

Also, i think the reason why he didn't have that much fun in Frontiers is also because the default control settings in that game are really awful. He could really use some help on making the experience better by changing them.

[@BrandonGiesing]

I had no problem with the default controls personally 🤷‍♀ It’s the exact same scheme used in Shadow too, Boost on R2, Homing on X, etc. That’s like the whole point of why they changed Generations controls in this port, to match Frontiers. @@cristianovogt5586

[@brolytriplethreat]

Honestly i prefer the way Shadow Generations does it. I _want_ bigger levels. Cyberspace was underwhelming as heck and ill gladly trade the islands for it.

[@eclipticonantiqua1157]

Yeah I don’t agree with “If you like Shadow generations you’ll love frontiers” as someone who’s into speed running intricate levels Frontiers barely scratches that itch with its short and reused level bits and way more running around and combat. Whereas Shadow Generations was fantastic due to the level design Frontiers was missing.

[@BrandonGiesing]

I mean, I didn’t say that exactly. I said “it should be near the same”, I never they would absolutely love it EXACTLY the same. I can see someone still thinking Shadow is way better since it is the more polished title but the wording they had in the stream made it sound like they absolutely hated it which is confusing when it’s very similar in concept. Not as good is one thing but saying you hate one game but like another when they are pretty alike is odd.@@eclipticonantiqua1157

[@shadamyandsonamylover]

It’s so interesting seeing your perspective as a new Sonic fan. It’s kind of hilarious to see you say you weren’t expecting momentum gameplay in mania. You should know that Sonic games since 2010 have been criticized by the fans for not being momentum based since the “dark age” games were ALL about momentum. It’s also interesting that you aren’t a fan of the open zone gameplay. You could argue that Sonic has had open zone gameplay since Adventure 1 but they really just had elaborate hub worlds for the main games. But Open Zone is the way of the future for Sonic, so if you pick up future games I would expect them to stay. If you start to play more games, you might be shocked at how different the older games play. And how vocal the fanbase will be when you start saying things like “I’m not a fan of frontiers”. 😅 good luck and looking forward to more videos! I hope you continue to enjoy the games you choose to play =)

[@MarcoMeatball]

😂🙏

[@aidenkarma3844]

Sonic unleashed at the time was released right after Sonic 06 and people just gave it a bad score just for the sake of giving it a bad score because you know it's Sonic but it's genuinely one of the best sonic games ever made. People revisited and absolutely loved it. the ign review of it's one of the most hated IGN reviews ever. they legit fired the guy lol

[@FujiMezu]

That last line warms my heart!😇

[@BrandonGiesing]

I mean, Unleashed does have genuine problems and some of the critiques of said IGN review wasn’t THAT off-base. The night levels are boring, way too long, and repetitive. Plus it being a very long grind with the metals. But yeah, they definitely didn’t deserve that low of a score and you can tell from gameplay footage they are just really, really bad.

[@shadamyandsonamylover]

@@BrandonGiesingso true. But coming at a game review by saying: “PSA - don’t buy the game cuz it sucks” is just the wrong way to go about it. IGN was so ignorant and aloof during this era, I legit stopped taking any of their advice or opinions seriously. Even now I don’t like to look at their reviews, despite the fact that they have changed for the better now. They really damaged their reputation in that era.

[@Violet26PsyLoop]

Missed the stream due to opposite timezone issue but thankfully the VOD are here. Watching people vibing to the ost while playing the game is my favorite thing. Since you like 3D gameplay I suggest you try Sonic Adventure 2 and Sonic Unleashed. The OST is versatile too.

[@WolvesbaneNetwork]

The modern xbox version of unleashed runs quite a bit better than the ps3 version if you have one.

[@theguudknight]

Radical Highway Act 2 was so cool. I turned off Doom Wing on my first run thinking it couldn't be harder than Act 1 but BOY I WAS MISTAKEN HOLY SHIT 😂😂😂

[@Gecklo]

It was a pleasure to watch this live. It will be such a heartwarming journey to see your thoughts on this series even 6 months from now. I'm a bit over a decade younger than you at just 24, but I've known this series since I was a toddler. As someone who likes to publicly make remixes and arrangements of this franchise, I have always felt dearly that the music is the soul of this series, and your sincere open mindedness to it has been nothing short of vindication. While you're here, there's a couple important technical things to look out for when you eventually run the Steam Release of Sonic Adventure: You mentioned in the first third of this stream that you had forgotten to get Sonic Adventure 1 [DX] and 2 on Steam, and would be picking those versions up when you can. Adventure 1 being the first ever 3D Sonic game, came out first for the Dreamcast. The DX version was a port made to the Gamecube years later, with some updated model assets, but a largely butchered lighting engine, and a large host of bugs and common game-wide glitches. That port, was ported again to PC, which degraded the quality further. That PC port, was then itself ported to the Xbox 360. Again watering down the code and introducing more errors. And then THAT 360 version was ported to Steam for the final commercial version available today. A port of a port of a port of a port of an original. Much like people were able to convince you to do the Re-Rainbow mod for Colors, I can not recommend enough using PKR's SADX Mod Installer for Adventure 1. Many people will recommend something called "BetterSADX" which attempted to accomplish the same restoration, but was made over a decade ago, and the new actual up to date version is handled by the same people, and is the very first google result when looking up "Sadx mod installer". It simply takes your Adventure 1 file directory after you install the game from steam, and converts all of its files back a few ports to the original PC version, and then installs only the vital restoration efforts and fixes to attain the original uncompromised integrity of the Dreamcast release. There are hundreds of optional mods you can play with today, but if you are concerned with experiencing something in its vanilla form, the mods packaged in the installer are dedicated to faithful intended experience, and if you were to run a community poll, everyone would agree that it would be the correct current "vanilla" way to play, instead of the significantly sad state of the steam release.

[@IkeTheBot]

I saw you were asking for a shorter Sonic soundtrack at the end of the stream. I’d recommend the Sonic Runners OST. There’s only 13 songs, but since you said you enjoyed the light-hearted Sonic tracks, I think you’d enjoy it.

[@shadamyandsonamylover]

Sonic Runners is the GOAT. Excellent soundtrack. Random lore drops. Extremely fun gameplay. Unfortunately discontinued due to being unable to support such a massive online only game.

[@smalllfox]

@@shadamyandsonamylover it's being held up by fan servers now so you can play it if you download that version

[@shadamyandsonamylover]

@@smalllfox last time I checked you had to go through a bunch of hoops to play it and it was just too much for me. But yes, technically you can still play! =)

[@senpai690]

I do recommend Sonic Mania next, because that soundtrack is an absolute Banger.

[@cristianovogt5586]

2:19:48 It's Shadow's exclusive Super form, since he can turn into Super Shadow, just like Sonic, Silver and Knuckles.

[@reggielacey2235]

Knuckles can't turn super. All he gets it a slight pink glow

[@dbzfan6900]

@@reggielacey2235that’s his super form

[@brolytriplethreat]

​@@reggielacey2235it is still a Super Form. He even calls it such in Frontiers.

[@jackalsniper4232]

Begging you to listen to the Frontiers ost, especially the island themes. They're some of the most beautiful tracks in the franchise

[@BlamedAxis]

Sonic Colors is a solid title gameplay wise, but Sonic fans have kind of grown to resent it as time went on, mainly because of the writing, but also because the game spends more time in 2D than 3D, and modern Sonic fans are getting kind of sick of the whole 3D-mixed-with-2D style at this point. Many fans will tell you that the game is mediocre or overhyped, but it is absolutely a technically sound, well-crafted and polished platformer with Sonic’s signature sense of speed and a great soundtrack. Just expect to be spending more time in 2D than in Generations. I’m confident you will enjoy it, Marco, at the very least from a music perspective!

[@Axxidous]

If you want to know what half of Sonic Unleashed was like.. Think back to the second to last stage in Sonic Generations, Rooftop Run. The stage feels basically like you’re in Sonic Unleashed as the gameplay, art direction and graphics are so similar due to Generations coming out not long after Unleashed.

[@sillerbarly4927]

Sonic 06 was originally supposed to launch on the Wii, however do to technical complications, as the Wii was not as beefy hardware wise as the Xbox 360 or PlayStation 3, they ended up making sonic and the 7 rings along with sonic and the Black Knight a bit later. And unfortunately that was the last, what ended up being called fairytale series of sonic games, of the fairytale trilogy. They planed on making a third game but due to lack luster sales of Sonoc and the Black knight, I believe, they pulled the plug and instead made sonic the werehog.

[@aidenkarma3844]

Sonic origins is a great game for casuals and a great introduction to the series though I do recommend looking up a mod that restores the original songs (Copyright issues) Michael Jackson worked on the tracks. Lost world is all right it's kind of whatever. Sonic colors you have a good time with. Just make sure to go into settings and restore the original songs and not the remixed ones.

[@Steg1118]

loved the vod, cant wait for the mania frontiers video, generations was my first and favorite sonic game for along time, now its sonic unleashed with my next favorites being sonic 3 and knuckles, mania, and adventure 2. Project 06 is also up there but its a fan project

[@Skylancer727]

I'm curious to hear how you thought Mania was a hard game. As an old Sonic fan I thought it was probably the easiest classic Sonic style game with very little pit falls and many areas you just curl up and watch the speed. Really reminds me of Sonic 2 the most. Sonic 1 in comparison can be brutally hard and Sonic 3 is like the middle ground for both of those. Mania is definitely about the same if not easier than Sonic 2.

[@_Squashy]

nah i get it, I had a really hard time with flying battery zone too, i think its mainly because of the falls that actually kill you since you have a limited number of lives and getting a game over on act 2 means you have to do act 1 again which can be frustrating

[@BrandonGiesing]

I mean, Generations/Shadow Gens is their FIRST EVER Sonic game so Mania would be their first ever 2D game. It maybe “easier” than 1, 2, or 3 but it’s still “harder” than the two other games they touched. They don’t have any other frame of reference of how hard or easy 2D Sonic can be other than Generation’s Classic stages which don’t really play like an actual 2D Sonic game

[@WolvesbaneNetwork]

Yeah mania might be easier than the original trilogy, but the original trilogy is way harder than the new games.

[@therandomvideochannel8589]

yea as a kid i was never able to beat the original trilogy, but i was able to beat mania

[@ANoobInvoid]

Regardless of how difficult it is for him, I just hope he will show more recordings or even streams of it just because it feels great to watch a player liking sonic because of a genuinely good game of sonic.

[@MilkyWayMarsBar]

I watched the Prologue the MOMENT EACH EPISODE came out, and it was amazing. Also saw the Preview of the animation when it came out too, and I was hyped for the Prologue to come out because of how good the Preview was. I beat the game 7 DAYS AGO, and the physical copy arrived the day before, on the 25th, meaning it took me a day to beat this game (embarassingly). The ending was so bittersweet bro--Maria holding Shadow's head, and them touching foreheads, with her telling him: "If fate draws us apart, then I'll always be in your heart." MAH HEART, MAH SOUL 🖤❤💙💛😭 I took SO MANY screenshots lmao. I cried at that part. Not just crying. UGLY crying. Crying like a newborn baby. Beautiful game. 9.5/10. It would be a 10 if they put Casey Williams's "Without You" in the end credits for the extra dose of sadness. As a 16 year old who has been a Sonic fan since I was 6, I was amazed and 100% satisfied with this game. It revived my childhood game, Sonic Generations, as well as give Shadow HIS OWN GAME AFTER 19 YEARS!! AND EXPLORE HIS DYNAMIC WITH MARIA!!!!!!!! Ian COOKED with both SXSG's GAME and PROLOGUE, my GOD.😭

[@makrongamin1685]

Please, one day you need to finish Sonic Frontiers, the beauty in the game is just about the time- it would be nice to see you finish it-

[@TheJege12]

2:09:19 Wh-stop memeing on Marco guys he's new :DD That was hilarious and you're doing awesome at the game!! P.S. My dog was also named Luna, much love to your goober c:

[@rdfan7669]

Well, even if you don't finish Frontiers, at least react to the full soundtrack. I truly believe that this is some of the Tomoya Ohtani-led SEGA SOUND TEAM's best work since Unleashed, especially regarding the ambient island themes, the Guardian/Titan battle tracks, and the Cyberspace BGMs.

[@rich22221]

Thank you for finishing this game on stream

[@azulesmalls5514]

Marco's Gameplay in Chaos Island Act 2 went insane. Bro achieved the Flow state.

[@DarthSpiderMario]

I went on a big Sonic binge earlier this year where I played almost every mainline game, the only ones I haven’t got to at this point are Mania, Frontiers and Superstars (and Dream Team if that ever escapes Apple Arcade). Shadow Generations is easily by far and away my favorite Sonic game.

[@FuzHammer]

"I've come to understand I HATE Chemical Plant" One of us! One of us! I Welcome you officially into the *Sonic Fandom™* Marco 😭

[@keytaurchannel216]

For Frontiers personally yes it is weird but I really recommend coming back to it again. Its gameplay really depends on a player I'd say but it's probably the most story-driven Sonic game that explores characters other than Shadow very well and ties up almost all previous games together Music too might seem unassuming at first with calm almost ambient piano but guardians, cyberspaces and especially titans will let you know why a lot of fans that didn't even like the game itself still call its OST one of the best

[@aetherialwolf]

Sonic frontiers was a make or break game for sonic team the developer and is the first game in a long time that actually really cared about the characters and story. a lot of sonic fans appreciate it because it was a game that did a lot of healing for the franchise as a whole and they were on the brink of closure from what I understand if frontiers didnt sell well. I recommend checking out the song one way dream from it. it supposedly echoed how the dev team themselves felt at the end of their journey.

[@angac.6974]

1:00:01 This is really an IGN moment 😂😂😂

[@shadamyandsonamylover]

Ugh when you get hit with nostalgia in all the wrong ways lmao

[@epiccoolperson1236]

1:31:55 Not sure if this question is referring to Sonic the character or Sonic the franchise. If we mean the character then imo no it doesn't feel like a legit expression of Sonic as a character. Edm can have that "speed" in it which is fitting with Sonic moving fast but that's about it. However, the edm used in Sonic (at least in frontiers) doesn't feel like it's there for Sonic, but there to represent the very computer-ish digital world that those cyber levels are in. This can also be said about the open world music not fitting Sonic. He's in a world that he isn't supposed to be in and the music fits that in a sense because it is independent of Sonic as a character. I'm mostly looking at frontiers and not the shadow level you are playing because someone in your chat said that was a frontiers song, so it made sense to look at that game more than this one. But you go from that game and look at this game and it's completely different. Generations is more of a celebration of Sonic and the music represents that very well. I'm not the biggest fan of the music in frontiers overall but I do like how they are branching out to other types of music and just trying new things. I guess to answer the question completely, no I don't think the edm is a legit expression of Sonic. But I don't think it wants to be. That isn't the music's purpose. It's to represent something completely different

[@ChrisPyre]

I do hope you’ll give the adventure games a try. To me their essential viewing (playing?). Adventure 2 in particular feels to me like one of the most important 3D sonic games in terms of establishing characters, gameplay, and most relevant to this conversation: music motifs that continue even into this newest chapter.

[@MundaneMacaque]

Hello! I'm a bit late to watching this upload but I must say, this has been one of the best newcomer play-throughs I've seen for a Sonic game. So many other let's players I've watched usually try to brute force though or rush through the levels and become frustrated as a result. It's refreshing to see someone take their time to learn the mechanics, and your appreciation of the soundtracks make your streams more unique in comparison to other vids. Sorry that your experience frontiers felt a bit disapointing, but I hope you enjoy playing other Sonic games in the future! (Also, this isn't related to Sonic but what are the odds of you playing a Kirby game? I think you may find them interesting, and while the soundscapes aren't as varied as Sonic's, the music is quite charming and help elevate the experience of each title and their stages)

[@MarcoMeatball]

I appreciate this so much! I’m really looking forward to more. And yes to Kirby!

[@MundaneMacaque]

@@MarcoMeatball Awesome, I'll be looking forward to your future streams!

[@vincentpey3929]

There might be an explaination as to why Shadow looks like a Hedgehog. On Angel Island, the floating island where Knickles comes from, there is a mural that prophecises the future of Angel Island and its sacred relic the Master Emerald (it houses the enraged god Chaos and is linked to the 7 Chaos Emeralds). In said Mural we see a depiction of the final battle of "Sonic 3 and Knuckles" depicting Super Sonic facing Eggmans ultimate Death Egg Robot. Geralt Robotnik is implyed to have studied Angel Island a lot in his early efforts to create the perfect lifeform, it could be that Shadows appearence is loosely based on that ancient depiction of Super Sonic. Wich would be a really cool detail, Geralt essentially trying to make shadow look like the prophecised savior of angel island to contrast his dark origins in Black Doom. The irony of Geralts selve made savior looking similar to the hero that would stop his violent grandson is the cherry on top. Alas this is but a theory, but there is a lot of evidence to support it. Geralts inspiration in Angel island can be seen in a lot of things on the Ark. First of the obvious, the Ark is littered witj artificial recreations of Chaos, perhaps these where Geralts early attempts at making the ultimate lifeform by trying to recreate the God of Angel Island. Then there is the Biolizard, the perfect lifeform prototype, who while not being an amorpheous blob of fluid still bears resemblence to Perfect Chaos and comes much closer to recreating its power than the artificial chaos do. Then there is the chamber that houses the reactor that powers the Eclypse Cannon, this place is an allmost one to one recreation of Angel Islands Chaos Shrine, wich houses the Master Emerald. Then there is the Eclypse Cannon itself it looks like Geralts or Eggmans face, maybe being also moddled after the face of the ultimate Death Egg Robot thats depicted in the Mural... That or Geralt just wanted the world to know that it was his vengeance that would destroy it for taking Maria from him... Or it was just a coincidence.

[@dantetouchdown9030]

A lot of your points are either confirmed or busted in Gerald's journal, go read it

[@Darjeebles]

The IGN review had me in stitches.

[@bezzu]

1:32:05 I think this remix is Shadow music (the original sonic track wasn't as bumpy) I see it as trippy at points especially with the doubled beat showcasing Shadow's confusion which is a core part of his character, he has no idea where he is, why black doom is making him relive his trauma and he's conflicted with himself as to what he should do not just in this game's setting but just all around with himself. The track made me FEEL that shit even though it might not for others, because it's EDM - but you might see it when comparing the remix to the original which is very calm and simply lowkey ambience, and Shadow's version is more confused and less focused... idk if I'm making any sense haha

[@azulesmalls5514]

Shadow is able to use the Chaos Emeralds like Sonic to transform into Super Shadow. (He goes gold except he keeps the red highlights to differentiate him from Sonic.) He doesn't do that in this game because reasons.

[@justknucklesandtails]

Aww, I was really looking forward to a Frontiers play through :/ Oh well, I guess if you’ll enjoy other games more than go for those and if you decide you want to later then you can go back to Frontiers. Also, definitely watch the prologue animation for Frontiers, it has one like Shadow Generations did

[@REALCAUTION]

At 1:01:51 I was dying that ign review was killing me hahaha I remember that back in the day

[@seyron5466]

Congratulations marco You cooked Im proud 🗣🔥🔥🔥

[@sillerbarly4927]

Just so you know for the sonic collection, they do not have the original music from Sonic 3. Its mainly because Sega doesn't want to pay the royalties to Michelle Jackson's estate. They effectively confirmed a long running runor that Michelle Jackson did some work on the sound track for Sonic 3, even though he is not credited in the credits. The music they have is the demo, but honestly does not compare at all to the tracks from the original game

[@AHylianWarrior]

"I'm so mad: I never used to find-...nevermind, I'm not going to say it out loud" you don't have to bro we know lmao we know 👀

[@SandersCat_yo]

why did you make us relive the trauma of watching that IGN Unleashed review 😂

[@diegoviramontes2479]

1:49:46 THIS IS WHO I AM NOT A SHADOW OF WHO I WANT TO BEEEEE

[@FujiMezu]

For Sonic Frontiers, Don’t torture yourself doing the Cyber Space levels, I suggest just doing Big the Cat’s fishing game to easily progress through the islands…unless any other hypocrite wants to tell me “Marco can do whatever he wants” a little tired of people telling me off like that.

[@BrandonGiesing]

I mean, if their favorite part of Shadow Gens has been the boost levels and they said they didn’t really like the Open World part as much, why would they want to skip the thing they actually like. If anything, they should just play Arcade Mode and skip the Open Zones entirely if they prefer the boost levels, not skip the boost levels

[@TheAussieBlue]

I loved the cyber space levels. The fishing was boring. Because I love to go fast and jump through springs and bounce pads.

[@sheilo]

There was so many Sonic haters in chat this stream, I'm glad Marco didn't let it affect him

[@TheFallenStar64]

I kinda want him to play sonic 4 ep 1 and 2, there not GOOD games but I wanna see his take on them and the soundtrack.

[@ANoobInvoid]

Just note that I really want to WATCH you play/listen to Sonic Mania!! 😊

[@Kutomi1]

We appreciate you not yucking our yum

[@Skylancer727]

Sadly that frontiers song in this game isn't the same in that game. It's much slower and only the piano portion of it. It's just an overworld theme so it's not nearly as musically complex. Kinda funny that many frontiers fans actually really hated this remix as it's not at all faithful to the original version.

[@erleinmayer7498]

Sonic Frontiers walked, so Shadow Generations could run

[@aidenkarma3844]

I do recommend getting sonic adventure 2 As it is one of the best regardless Sonic games with a great story and there's no hub world

[@AzurePrower]

Don't blame you for your outlook on Sonic Frontiers. Outside of the boss fights, it's not very visually or artistically appealing. Like it were a tech demo for Shadow Generations. Doubt you will like the game play of Sonic Unleashed either.

[@MarcoMeatball]

Excited to see though!

[@denimax8546]

This is Warframe Related I suggest you do "sleeping in the Cold Below"

[@MarcoMeatball]

It’s here!

[@awesomezebroz_2949]

Unleashed is a good game. It was released after Sonic 06 which is considered one of the worst games ever making reviewers not give unleashed a fair chance. I think IGN also apologized for this review and said the reviewer who made it left the team a long time ago

[@ShadowSylveon-445]

Can we get collision chaos p mix eng/european for sonic cd please?

[@reggielacey2235]

Please continue with frontiers

[@Twilord_]

You should never be afraid to call any fanbase you're joining any number of (non slur) insults. Plus Sonic fans are either furries or "not ready for that conversation". Which are you?

[@elijahdubois7902]

All Hail Shadow! 🎸🎸🎸

[@MercLazarus]

Where are the sonic mania or frontiers brief playthroughs??

[@MarcoMeatball]

Later this week

[@d3hybrid713]

Please play the one of the first two sonic and sega all star racing games before the team sonic racing those two games are way better in soundtrack and in gameplay in my opinion

[@JackDout]

I'm going to be real chat got people unfamiliar with Sonic, all funked up, this is very common for some more vocal of the fan base to introject memes from the base. This however isn't very helpful or conducive to understanding what is true and what is memes.

[@JohnDoe-tt5qc]

🤟😫 ALL HAIL SHADOW

[@vibaj16]

wait why is shadow the past shadow? I thought this is current shadow? What am I missing????

[@BrandonGiesing]

This game takes place at the exact same time as Generations itself so it’s Shadow from that timeframe, before Forces, Frontiers, etc. Everything post-Generation hasn’t technically happened in the timeline yet at this point in this game. As for why levels exist from newer games though? Cause time travel doesn’t just work one way, Time Eater can pull stuff from the future too. We know Shadow in the future visits Forces but he hasn’t been in Frontiers (yet but maybe that’s a tease for a free DLC update or a Frontiers 2).

[@vibaj16]

@BrandonGiesing But it seems even Shadow the Hedgehog hasn't happened yet, which doesn't make sense

[@BrandonGiesing]

No? Nothing in the game implies Shadow didn’t happen. He literally mentions at the start of the game that he suspected the Black Arms returned, how would he know that if he hadn’t experienced the game the Black Arms were even from@@vibaj16

[@vibaj16]

@@BrandonGiesing This dialogue: Shadow: "Professor, what do you think he means he 'learned from our last encounter?'" Gerald: "I surmise you defeated him at some point in the future." Sounds like this is before he defeated Black Doom...

[@smalllfox]

@@vibaj16 it would be the future for gerald and that is why he refers to it as such. shadow literally says "i destroyed you once. i will do it again" to black doom in another cutscene in this game. this game definitely takes place after shadow

[@flamerollerx01]

Unfortunate that you were suggested a very late gen sonic game and didn't just play the first one. I've never played this and probably never will, though I did think the first generations game was okay. I'm one of the old fans though and played the first 4 games, then adventure, heroes and quit before adventure 2 (which I did play with my nephew a little bit), so all the games that came out after heroes I didn't play. Those newer games are largely considered the bad era of sonic and only recently with Christian Whitehead at the helm has sonic come back into it's own and started to succeed again.

[@aidenkarma3844]

generations is considered a top sonic game tho? one of th best ever, and pairing it w shadow gens which is contender for 1 of the best modern sonic games ever, so im not sure what u mean by it being okay so not sure what u mean by late gen sonic game unless its About frontiers then I apologize. Also heroes wasn't really that good. Post unleashed and generations was the bad era

[@BrandonGiesing]

We are literally in the revival era of Sonic, Frontiers and on has been considered good. And also Generations specifically was like the highlight of the “bad era” so it’s even weirder to say this specifically about Gens.

[@BlurBlizzard]

You missed out on some great games then. Especially the 2d handheld ones like advance and rush if u like the classics.

[@aidenkarma3844]

sonic forces not that good tho

[@FujiMezu]

It’s downright bad.

[@BrandonGiesing]

Nah, Forces isn’t really “bad”, it’s just not “good”. It’s not some horribly glitchy mess unlike past games or similar. The only “problem” with Forces is that it’s so forgetably bland. Which arguably, an actual bad game at least has some fun in seeing just how broken it is. Forces is just… there to exist@@FujiMezu

[@smalllfox]

yeah, the story is dull, the writing doesn't at all try to fit the tone they were going for, the level design is a straight line, it's far too easy, the music really isn't that good aside from a few tracks that stand out. literally the only things it has going for it is having nice lighting, not being buggy and having a decent character creator. everything is set up here for people to just.. forget about it, but people were really desperate for this game to be really good, to take itself seriously, that they ended up super disappointed when it was just... nothing.

[@FujiMezu]

@@smalllfox yea it’s in a state worse than “bad”. How’s that possible?

[@SandersCat_yo]

that NintendoLife article sure is something 🥲