The RTX 5090 Experience.

[@Jur4.0]

30% uplift, 42% more energy demand. Truly an engineering marvel.

[@MuYe]

For a 30% higher MSPR 💀

[@asnaeb2]

Sounds like 5090 is literally that 600w 4090 lol. Did Nvidia even innovate anything?

[@Shlerp302]

@@asnaeb2 its a 2 slot card

[@GroovThe]

@MuYe yeah, even taking inflation into account it's still 25 %...

[@demetter7936]

It's almost like its a product designed for those who want the best of the best and they're releasing other models which are very reasonably priced for the performance you get. Nvidia haters will hate no matter what....

[@mohamedlakdarchouchane]

Can’t wait to buy this 20 years later

[@rdablock]

@@atticushexcel9567 doing tricks on it ive never seen before

[@mohamedlakdarchouchane]

@@atticushexcel9567chill dude we just joking here 😮

[@SAWEditor]

@@atticushexcel9567 It ain't that deep lil boy. You got on your feeling cus he left a comment, can't imagine your day to day life

[@thelittledetailscr7231]

So funny. Never heard that joke before.

[@AjaahQuest]

@@atticushexcel9567 You’re implying that all rich people will necessarily buy this graphics card. I know plenty of wealthy people right now who are content with having a 4070 because they play in 1080p, they prefer to play that way, and it’s more than enough for them. You shouldn’t think that people become rich by spending their money recklessly either.

[@AD-sg9tr]

the aesthetics of this channel are objectively unsurpassed. The sets, the graphics, the photography... It's art.

[@MaTtRoSiTy]

Yeah he makes me feel like a low budget Asmongold by comparison lol

[@maxzett]

Id argue Dave2D has a similar style and aesthetic

[@n451F37]

Facts bro facts. this channel is art itself

[@Ollay245]

When talent meets motivation! Watching this channel grow over the years and the eye candy has been a pleasure

[@nx_]

even his forza horizon 5 is clean af at 3:23

[@SparcMac]

That 5090 will be incredible for RuneScape

[@Arz0rsProGaming]

Don’t forget to undervolt it or you’ll crash when you enter the GE

[@MariusNinjai]

still not enough for Fossil island or Prif

[@RubenW0548]

Hello mr SparcMac nice mustang :)

[@noisychicken9334]

So will my GTX 8800

[@Methos_]

Can't wait to get 10,000FPS in Pokemon Red

[@enda0man]

1:15, can I just say how good this graph is? I feel other KZbinrs should copy this format. it is MUCH easier to understand and less cluttered.

[@zer0legend109]

totally agree. I like well-put very technical reviews while avoiding any casual reviews. Optimum on the other hand, is very technical and well-put videos yet still feel casual and comfy and I like it

[@HumbleDude46995]

you are encouraging plagiarism ? wow

[@zer0legend109]

@@HumbleDude46995 he measn making less cluttered tables and copying the format is not plagiarism, lmao. Otherwise whole journals articles would be plagiarizing from each other as every journal require a set format for tables and figures. calm ur tits bro

[@Yoshi_206]

I really liked Optimum's review, but I'm glad different reviewers have their own formula.

[@trignite]

I hate this graph.. copy Hardware Unboxeds graphs. those are perfect

[@FishStixy]

Honestly the most impressive part is the pcb/cooling design. Incredible engineering right there.

[@whitewiped]

Yeah theb2 slot size and the all black design is better than the 30 and 40 series fe cards imo the 50 series fe cards are just beautiful and so sleek and much more compact.

[@adityapatel1839]

@@whitewiped only 5080 and 5090, it seems they still stuck to same 4000 series cooler for the 5070 and below, maybe the more dense pcb is a higher cost to build.

[@Fran-kc2gu]

Aesthetic problem instead of a functional one so its useless, just the apple way

[@Starfishtroopers]

at what cost

[@Embre_2]

A problem already solved by MSI, ASUS, Gainward etc is the most impressive thing about it. Nvidia has started to fumble bad, with these insane prices and lackluster performance.

[@Davemate]

I'm glad you put a focus on a powerdraw vs performance gained, this was a good video

[@demetter7936]

5090 performance per watt is the same as the 4090 and more than the 4080. The comments hating weren't even going to get a 5090 to begin with.

[@gamingedition5165]

@@demetter7936 people hating because it feels more like a 4090ti instead of a new generation lmao

[@Patrick-y4d1z]

@@demetter7936 Unless you play at 1080p or 1440p. Or in idle performance. And even then, it being the same performance per watt in games is not a good thing, that is a bad thing. That means hasn't improved in efficiency in any way, but is actually worse in many ways.

[@demetter7936]

@ 4000 series was the only generation with that big of a performance per watt jump. 2080-3080 was the same as well.

[@Steel0079]

Yeah D2D also came to same conclusion.

[@Falcon5ive]

I guess Moore’s law hit Nvidia hard, or they had all their R&D on AI and just went with a good old power overclock.

[@Henningberlin94]

It's simply exactly the same TSMC 4n node.

[@downrangedave3845]

needs an architecture change. It's a 4090 Ti with more AI cores

[@doanamo]

They are most likely padding generations because they know they have advantage on the market. In the name of progress and other lies Nvidia tells us.

[@funtourhawk]

expect a jump in the 60 series (hopefully they go with that so we can get the 6090 hehe)

[@TheUltraMinebox]

Greed hit nvidia. They could've gone 3nm and 228 SM for the full die but they chose to stick with 4nm.

[@NichtLustigNicht]

The reason why I always prefer your videos is that you videos are absolutely eye-candy! Paired with with every information I need and presented in calm manner you are by far my favorite tech KZbinr. Keep it up!

[@CaitlynMez]

I'm curious about the undervolting results on a 5090. That default energy demand is ridiculous.

[@gotmilk6982]

This^

[@NoobSniper]

Tech Yes City's Bryan undervolted it to 900mV, running at 2.5GHz, and in Warhammer Space Marine 2 4K High settings, it pulled 405W @ 125 FPS. For reference, stock was 575W @ 133 FPS.

[@HazzyDevil]

You frauds are liking/responding to a fake account 💀

[@vidiveniviciDCLXVI]

Yeah spend 2-3k to undervolt a card because it sucks.

[@Gromic2k]

Roman Der8auer already showed last year, that all you have to do is reduce the power limit to 50% and it usually just loses like 3-5% of the performance. Works with my 3090 and 4090

[@LinktotheFuture-zs9km]

I'm still shocked its only a two slot card, I dont think a single person predicted that coming

[@IdkIGuessIExist]

I actually kinda predicted that personally, tech tends to get smaller as time goes on, all the innovations in smaller tech that we say these last 4 years it makes sense the 50 series would be smaller

[@nevill2947]

Aftermarket models: allow us to introduce ourselves

[@kyyyy21]

I predicted that it would be a 2 slot

[@Felale]

@@IdkIGuessIExistThat’s not true of PC hardware though because of the ever-increasing energy demands. It doesn’t make sense for the cooling solution to get smaller.

[@benperkins2929]

@@Felale Yup. Just goes to show the awesome engineering that went into the cooler of this generation. Shame less than 10% of 5090 buyers will ever use it

[@DontEatCream]

Im so glad you made a 8 minute review instead of a 40 minute one like every other tech tuber on my feed

[@leoruhland5885]

Yes

[@DragonOfTheMortalKombat]

So glad that he gave you far less info than every other youtuber ? Wow lol

[@PSYCHOV3N0M]

​@@DragonOfTheMortalKombat I know right? 🤣🤣🤣 This video is basically the Digital Trends version of 5090 reviews. No disrespect intended.

[@gelul12]

@@DragonOfTheMortalKombatYeh because showing 250 games is really informative and not at all wasting time

[@geerstyresoil3136]

@@DragonOfTheMortalKombat yep, basically an nvidia ad.

[@SuperSportMTL]

30% uplift, 42% more energy demand. 30% more money when buying anything other than founders edition... I predict an even nicer jacket from Jensen Huang at the 6090 release

[@Quast]

Made from the leather of Martians next time

[@trailrider0660]

Jesus why can't everyone do a chart like 0:45. Stellarrrr work man.

[@HonestHans365]

Super easy to read and digest at a glance. He's outdone everyone else on visualising the data.

[@ggs4869]

The man is just smart.

[@daboov2947]

That green ray of light in the background does not go unnoticed. It really shows how much effort and attention to detail you put in your videos!

[@HatQar]

1:42 That's some real forearm gains right there!

[@MaxPotatoesLucky]

4:58 , your studio lighting choices are really impressive mate

[@Deffinnition]

100%!

[@SeekoGT]

One of the first thing I noticed.

[@maasterchief]

thats good post production lol

[@Nevermorepicker]

bro got aesthetic maxxxed

[@Vastfill]

Irl ray tracing

[@bwloawesome]

I remember watching your videos not too long ago and being blown away that you had less than 40k subscribers. So happy for your growth.

[@PepeTheFren]

I just want to mention that this channel is pure quality. ;)

[@fxandrei]

Those charts in the first half of the video are just perfect. It paints a pretty good picture of the the 5090 means compared with the past 2 generations.

[@QuickyBabyTV]

Great choice of charts, best 5090 review out of all of them. Looking forward to thermals in an ITX!

[@IwinMahWay]

Yeah those charts looked 🔥

[@jamiex1248]

Wait, look who it is

[@megapet777]

Oh lol didnt know that QB is also ITX enjoyer and watches optimum tech. Whats up ^^ I watched lot of your videos in the early days of wot and still do watch some of your vids even though I havent played wot in a few years.

[@Methos_]

So many channels didn't compare previous generations (1080 ti - 3090). Glad this showed exactly what I was looking for

[@MS07B3-G0UF]

Did not expect to see QB here lmao

[@johnnybravo69420]

This is still a product with laughable improvements despite its still impressive performance, which just as optimum said, is at most reserved for people who really need it. Time to wait for the RTX 6000 series or UDNA for any significant improvements, if there's any waiting.

[@ohsnapsonbro4260]

Guess they wanna give amd a chance to catch up

[@Astelch]

the only laughable improvement is probably not needing a gpu brace support like the 4000 series. Its small compared to the 4090; the leap from the 3090 vs the 4090 was much more impressive.

[@rudrasingh6354]

They stuck with TSMC 4nm node variant as TSMC raised prices for 3nm and 2nm nodes by 10% and the nodes were already expensive before that. On the same node it is basically impossible to get any major uplift as Moore's law isn't a thing anymore, you cant design better hardware. That's why CPUs have stagnated again as well. Best we can do is software efficiency (not just AI for games but even normal software, if we just got rid of all web apps for desktops with native apps instead you would see massive RAM savings)

[@ergophob1c]

​@@AstelchBeen running a founders edition 4080 super for some time now and experiencing 0 sag without a brace. Honestly the larger nvidia cards were super well made in that regard too

[@Cptraktorn]

People forget that the 5090 compared to anything but a 4090 is a massive increase in performance. AMD will MAYBE match the 4090 this time.

[@chrisrussellca]

Damn 130W more than the 4090 in some games. I ain’t need to set my thermostat in the winter

[@VanishedGlance]

r/unironicallytruth

[@AayushSoni1196]

Much needed no-nonsense numbers in a

[@SpaceTraveler9]

the production quality of your videos is amazing man

[@ahmeddraza]

These power requirements are gonna make me go broke with electricity bills

[@maxzett]

What can I say.... I live in one of the most expensive cities when it comes to energy cost. I pay almost 0,37€ per kWh plus a fixed rate of 15€/month.

[@NahBNah]

So don’t buy it?

[@Henningberlin94]

Ye it surely does with a $2000 Graphics card....

[@Kenbark42]

At full tilt, it would cost ~$0.04 cents an hour to run. If you can't aford that, you should sell your computer, your gaming setup altogether and move into a box. Cause, you broke AF

[@ahmeddraza]

@Kenbark42 Not everyone lives in usa bro, you americans think you're the centre of the universe

[@expe808]

0:20 bro already fried it

[@YourLocalCafe]

Hahaha that was good

[@pranavkalyan.s4659]

😂

[@tyrannus00]

Thanks for taking the time to make these detailed graphs, they were great

[@Sundraw_01]

@optimum Top review. I am Italian and you are the only information channel that I willingly follow because I find only truth and honesty in your words and in each of your videos. Thanks for your work!

[@JaredBusch]

I'm still astonished at the amount of work and attention to detail that's invested into these videos. great coverage of the card too!

[@garrytalaroc]

Finally, a review about how it feels using it rather than numbers.

[@STANIS-LA-ROCHELLE]

It starts just with numbers…

[@Yoshi_206]

Definitely a great video. I am a little concerned that Cyber punk may be a bit of an outlier, but either way it's nice that Optimum found it to be an actual feature rather than just a gimmick.

[@JamesBlitz00]

Thanks for the first honest comparison ive seen of a side by side use base with matching framerates.

[@Larkinzzz]

Love how you visualized the benchmarks, really nice!

[@AirsoftDonny]

Best review I’ve seen yet. The info shared on the power consumption is wild! Not seeing a lot of other streamers calling that out.. thank you for this. Love your content.

[@randutch3860]

Really appreciate your graphs. Easy to understand, great at explaining, and just the overall layout and highlighting your talking points is on point.

[@Hyperfixd]

Glad to hear coil whine isn’t gone at 8:09 😅

[@little_fluffy_clouds]

Coil whine varies from one card to another, so even with identical model & spec cards from the same brand, one card could have whine while the other doesn’t

[@Gaboou]

@little_fluffy_clouds Your power supply can also be a deciding factor if you have it or not, somewhat unexpectedly maybe...

[@mouzz]

It's so bad I could never have a card like that at my side, it would drive me insane

[@jeroenvdw]

@@mouzz my 2080ti had coil whine, driving me crazy, but it stopped after a week or so. I heard it usually goes away pretty quickly

[@elpato3190]

​@@mouzzuse noise canceling headphones

[@bergerblancsuisse.]

I appreciate how articulate and concise this video is, thank you.

[@pipe_dev_null]

Man. Top notch video, as always. You’ve covered everything I wanted to know and I have no questions left to ask. Too bad the bots and scalpers will gobble these up long before I can even click ATC.

[@Monstacheeks]

Nice honest review of the 5090!

[@Bottlecap]

I’ve watched a lot of performance comparisons between these cards, this was the best one in terms of visually comparing the differences.

[@nyamnyam6608]

please make more graph explanation content like this for next upcoming gpu analysis. it's always super very easy to understand. thankyou!

[@PG-gs5vb]

0:15 You're holding over 260 billion transistors in the memory itself. ;-)

[@proton3748]

Yea, to store a single bit we need 4 right? That is why memory has more transistors

[@David-yx3bd]

The jump from 30 to 40 in performance was because they went from I believe 8nm process to 4nm process. 4090 and 5090 share the same process, so realistically you won't see a similar jump until they go down to 3 or 2 or even 1. Using the same process the only real way they had to ink out performance was iterative improvements and sizing up the gpu die itself as well as increasing the power draw.

[@1tubax]

Yep and the limit is 2 NM so we're pretty much at the finish line unless we use a different model for processing.

[@Maxwell1725P]

Brief, comprehensive and easy to understand review! Outstanding job, thanks! I understand other reviewers want to show all the hard work and detailed fps graphs, but they lose most viewer's attention into a third of their videos.

[@tim_despair]

your info-graphs are god-tier!

[@fawal.1997]

Great review! Your take on the gen-to-gen power and performance increases puts things in perspective. Which is much more informative than the FPS numbers that reviewers are throwing at us.

[@AlwinCrasto]

This is the first benchmark video where I have seen the most meaningful graphs and numbers that put the current generation product into perspective. Almost every other reviewer just releases endless slides of graphs with monotonous commentary whereas you condensed them all down to the bare essentials. Great job! I am just astounded at the massive power draw of the latest gen compared to my RTX 3080. That is a tough pill to swallow.

[@JoeMaranophotography]

Just been playing Control maxed out at 1440p full RT on a 4070ti and thanks Nvidia for helping me see that buying a gen or 2 old and playing older games is the way ahead!

[@LimitlessHorizonVRSimrigs]

Mate, your tech review videos are always on point. No nonsense, straight into it, and brilliantly edited. I cant wait to get one to test for VR, thats going to be interesting to see the uplift.

[@lordgunma6117]

gotta admire how simple yet aesthetically pleasing how you illustrate the graphs compared to other top tech yt channel. Its crazy

[@fsherman9717]

people think 5090 stand for the models. It the price actually .....

[@LT53]

To me the only insane part about the 5090 is how insane it is for its size. ITX lovers are gonna love it; But yeah I'll stick with my 4090 until it explodes.

[@D4RKAG3S]

have fun when new games comes out, the 4090 will be not good anymore ;)

[@failmuch]

@@D4RKAG3S the 4090 is still a great card, games hasnt reached the point where 4090 is remotely close to using 24GB of VRAM so your comment is silly.

[@_TrueDesire_]

Good for 2-4 years minimum!

[@OmniSzron]

Wait, so what's the latency situation here? Ali says that with no FG on the difference is only about 3 ms, and shows a clip of Cyberpunk with no FG at 30 ms latency. Then he shows clips of Cyberpunk with no raytracing, no FG and a latency of 13 ms. What is causing the gap? RT?

[@sijiajayi2968]

It’s a 3ms penalty in comparison to the base frame rate without frame gen. The 13ms was 200+ raster “real” frames, which would obviously have better latency than having around 80 frames being boosted to 200+ with frame gen. Basically “real” frames will always have significantly better latency than equivalent fps with frame gen, but the latency penalty between the base frame rate and using frame gen is minor

[@yurikanexc1275]

There's only a 3ms difference in latency between FG 2X and FG 4X, despite the substential gain in frame rate. The increase of latency for FG 4X compared to "true frames" at 4K 240Hz is 20ms, but obviously you have to crank down the graphics settings pretty agressively to achieve such a high "raw" frame rate.

[@xskullcrow3269]

It is true, FG adds no latency whatsoever, latency comes from the amount of real frames you are running at. In the first comparison it used the same graphics settings but one with FG enabled, you can see its 77 real fps vs 256 fps and same latency. In the second the lowered the graphics to match the fps of FG with real fps, he got less latency because the game runs quicker.

[@thegwd77]

I'm glad to see a review where the person actually played a game with it, and got to tell us how it feels. Also Cyberpunk is one of the most intensive games, and seeing that low latency with all the bells and whistles is pretty impressive. That said I hope we move away from fake frames in the future for the simple reason that more real frames means less artifacts, ghosting/guessing, especially when dealing with reveals and fast moving objects. Also some of these objects aren't even moving that fast, we just saw what was behind them, and we can still see ghosting.

[@Oo_snow_oO]

I appreciate that you did it in a 10-minute frame because the others have 40-minute-long reviews. They are insane. Many KZbinrs forget to respect viewers' time these days. Thank you!

[@Gattberserk]

GN did everyone a favour and give a 15 seconds summary at the very start of the video. I think that works very well too.

[@Dekaedited]

dude those graph animations are sick @2:13

[@Gavo172]

Wondering how the undervolt efficiency is going to be considering the power. Always feels like with these massive power draws that a decent undervolt is a great move

[@3rd.world.eliteAJ]

I feel like 380-400w at ~stock performance could be achievable with an undervolt, sad to see that an SFX channel missed out on that in the day 1 review..

[@Gavo172]

@3rd.world.eliteAJ I mean, only so much time with it. he's been great with undervolting in the past so I'm sure he'll give it a spin this time around

[@3rd.world.eliteAJ]

@ Yeah I know, he always does separate undervolt videos after, I guess it's just the game of being a youtuber.

[@Gavo172]

@3rd.world.eliteAJ oh yeah, this video needed to be done and uploaded to get out as soon as the embargo dropped. This isn't the right word because I'm not trying to use it in a derogatory context but he's going to milk the hell out of this card and I'm excited for it

[@triliner254]

Did you remember how the 4090 undervolt panned out? Yeah, I'm guessing this one wont be much better.

[@hosseinnafisi5725]

I gotta hand it to ya, I watched lotta 5090 reviews, but this video was the best one cause it's clear and simple

[@CrowbarBallad]

Appreciate you getting to the point while keeping your review detailed. Good job man.

[@jasfx7241]

Your studio lightning is amazing especially here that green combo was beautiful.

[@costafilh0]

30% more performance 30% more expensive 30% more power consumption Not great, but not bad either.

[@DubElementMusic]

pretty bad tbh

[@sop1311]

Significantly smaller though. Better to see what the 5070/80 are like

[@costafilh0]

@ You get what you pay for. So, not bad. People were just expecting the same leap we saw in the 4090, but that level of performance leap is not common between generations.

[@KarmaOTS]

it could've been called 4090 super or 4090 pro and it would've been a better name lol😂

[@CuongNguyen-kz4lv]

Dlss4 is game changer.

[@quattro_vp]

time to put down a mortgage for this GPU

[@m1iles]

or just get a 4090 used

[@GoldenEDM_2018]

If you have to do that to get this GPU then this GPU is not for you. Its for people with a million bucks extra for toys.

[@TheBonneter]

@@m1ilesUsed 4090s that are still over 2K USD? Yeah… Sure…

[@keagan5379]

@@m1ilesthose are gonna increase in price once the 5080 reviews drop

[@quattro_vp]

@ 'twas meant to be a joke (: not planning to buy a 5090 anytime soon. 4090 is good enough (:

[@R3KLAWi]

Really appreciate your style of Charting here man, clear and minimalist - Beautiful

[@droknron]

The graphs you're showing in this video are absoloutely gorgeous and extremely informative at a glance. Amazing presentation.

[@infernodude2874]

Beast reviewing beast 😎

[@doom_4685]

😆👍 i hope they can clean up frame gen issues

[@_headsheeran]

1:10 I find it hard to buy into the idea that game developers need to patch their games for generational leaps in GPUs to be reflected. I know a lot of NVIDIA's advancements for 50 series are based on software/firmware changes and thus will need implementation changes to be made on the developer's side but as a consumer, this series feels more like a ripoff and a marketing ploy?

[@justins1917]

Thank you for reviewing with frame gen and for giving it a try. Too many people immediately dismissing it without even testing it out.

[@MalakaiProgrammer]

It really is cool if you're not playing a competitive game - or using a gamepad and are less likely to notice a difference. I can't really speak from the true experience as I don't own a 5090 but Lossless Scaling on Steam recently added support for multi-frame generation so you can get a taste of what it's like. I bet Nvidia's is better but even limiting a game at 75-90FPS then using 2x or 3x frame-gen w/ FSR, the implications on energy-saving is interesting, especially at higher resolutions where it saves more work WHILE giving you a very convincing experience. It can also be used for games that cap their FPS to something like 60, rendering at 144+FPS via framegen is really nice for the QoL.

[@DrakonR]

That's because people understand the math behind it.

[@justins1917]

@DrakonR It needs to be tested for the purpose of potential increase in latency that x4 MFG could add, as well as the of minimun native frame gen required for maximum smoothness of MFG. Derrr the maths are all there

[@DrakonR]

@@justins1917 derr? Having a stroke from attempting math?

[@justins1917]

@DrakonR SWOOOOSH

[@stepahin]

I want to give a special thanks for the aesthetics of the infographic. I’m not sure if it was you or your teammate who made it, but your charts always look incredibly aesthetic. Thank you!

[@Geo94758]

It’s all just him doing everything :)

[@ammpower9235]

That review is best ❤ THX for 8 min boost, instead 1 hour pointless talks.

[@jessterman21]

5:02 This is exactly my feeling with framegen - the latency hit isn't egregious, because I'm not playing spastic shooters or competitive multiplayer games. I'm stuck on an RTX 3070 for the foreseeable future, but using Lossless Scaling to hit my 120+fps preference in every game I play. I don't mind the artifacts because the smoothness is worth it.

[@Raghav-gd3fn]

based

[@dariogreggio7981]

finally somene who isn't a brainrotted child "MUH ITS FAKE FRAMES!1!1! and actually enjoys the new tech which honestly is amazing

[@russiank9802]

I'd rather play at 90fps native than 144 with Vaseline smeared all over my monitor, but maybe that's just me

[@dariogreggio7981]

@@russiank9802 only you can see the vaseline lmao

[@auzeau]

It’s fine in something like Alan Wake 2, but I cannot play with frame gen in Cyberpunk 2077. I think added latency isn’t the issue, it’s that you’re playing with the input latency of non-interpolated framerate. I think it works well with a controller but doesn’t feel right with a mouse input imo

[@MadForHardware]

The reality is that the RTX 5090 it's mostly not for gaming. Im sure that with productivity is far better than the 4090.

[@D4RKAG3S]

waite 5 month newer game then make comparison and u see the 5090 is way better yall just dont understand the industry

[@AntonioDal.]

If you use this card 8 hours per day at 500W for 5 years = 7300 kWh. You also need to purchase AC for your room because of this card. Thats close to $2000 in electricity bill in many countries.

[@xaxzer4117]

That's not really alot for 8 hours a day over 5 years lmao

[@permanentlybored195]

Isn’t that like a euro per day

[@AntonioDal.]

@@xaxzer4117 This is only for the graphics card. Not a whole PC setup.

[@krazyfrog]

If you can afford a $2000, you can afford the electricity for it.

[@-Burb]

Wow electricity is expensive wherever you live. In the US with my cost of $0.15 per kWh it would cost $0.60 to run a card at 500W for 8 hours. Do that every day for a month and it’s $18 per month to run it at full tilt for 8 hours every day (not typical usage).

[@obrockie]

Now this was the review I was looking for. Thanks @optimum have not seen this channel before but you defiantly have anew subscriber!!! I know team Green was full of crap with there "5070 just as fast as a 4090" but this is we want to see, actual in game compare for each of the settings. As a dad gamer I only care about my 165 hz ultra wide 1440p @ that speed. Based on your info i would gladly give a little bit of artifacting for a 200hz experience at High or above rez. I 100% agree with you about the experience being so much better at higher frame rates. I think I will wait for the 5080 reviews and if it goes before mating my decision on upgrading my 3080.

[@MrMusiciluv17]

this is an excellent video. showing us how the artifacts associated with the new ai sampling look on screen versus how the game actually feels overall when using it is valuable perspective.

[@Yahfz]

Damn, i expected some undervolt numbers ):

[@Krushx0]

me too if the review yap about half the duration of the review on power draw it would be normal to test with undervolting.

[@dariogreggio7981]

fax

[@triliner254]

Its probably unviable just like 40 series

[@Yahfz]

@@triliner254 40 series undervolts a LOT, idk what you’re talking about.

[@Amp_Edition]

That price increase doesn’t justify 25-30% performance. If I had a 4090 I would keep that until 6090, if you are looking to buy right now I would look for a 4090 on sale. Nvidia can eat a dick with these prices every gen.

[@dariogreggio7981]

Its a 90 card. It's for rich people and they don't care. If you aren't rich stop complaining it wasn't for you anyway

[@Amp_Edition]

@ even rich people have standards or limits. If you never push back companies will run over you. If you want to get all fours go ahead, I’ll stand on my two feet and give them the bird!

[@-Burb]

@@Amp_Edition Rich people buy boats and sports cars for hundreds of thousands of dollars. They’re not being stomped on by a measly $2000 for the best on the market. I doubt they’d care much if Nvidia charged $10000 for the card.

[@supta2110]

You just not get rtx5090 because price 😂

[@Amp_Edition]

@ nope, I can afford it, I just have standards and I guess you don’t

[@ParallelUniversity]

"You can set everything to max quality and still get a smooth experience" - I do that already with a 4070 super. A small 1080P monitor sure makes life easy.

[@MalakaiProgrammer]

That's fair. If you're purely gaming / generally using your computer for leisure, 1080p is a great option (well, 1080p screens are good for most kinds of work too, but bigger screens help a lot for different jobs). It's kinda strange to get a 4K monitor for gaming.

[@gabo007x1]

Same, 5700X3D and 4070S with a 1080p 144Hz monitor feels amazing, especially with DLDSR from 1620p (native or with DLSS).

[@HonestHans365]

You have packed an impressive amounts of information into a 10min review. Well done!

[@benlee226]

Awesome video and explaining with examples the multi-frame gen. I wasn't sure how it'd look in games, but interesting take on more frames with glitches than lower settings but 'crisp' image. Can it run vanilla Crysis?

[@johannesgruber8980]

I miss the times when game optimization was as important as a new gpu. Just recently I watched a video from Threat Interactive which discussed this topic directly. GPUs could be used so much longer or newer GPUs could be made more efficient, so the Laptop segment would be in a better state

[@wolfsbane9985]

The new GPU's increased focus on AI features will only make game optimization worse, because now developers can more heavily rely on AI for their "optimization." It's already been happening, and it will get worse.

[@petemisc4291]

Does it require a nuclear power plant to operate?

[@Wizard-kk4lz]

Jip: on the upside, just a tiny one:)

[@LeandroBordakevich]

yo, as a professional in the film industry, hot damn your attention to lighting is out of this world

[@zaboono]

Damn a review where somebody actually tries mfg and doesn’t immediately say “latency bad garbage feature”? I personally think this stuff is awesome, though we’re kind of early into its lifespan. Excited to see where things can be taken with it and the crazy stuff it’ll be able to render

[@LlamaMasterPVP]

Thank you for actual performance details! Much appreciated :)

[@sleviins]

So, just stick with my 4090?

[@laLakshya]

I mean why not

[@spacecy]

No need to upgrade. You'll live

[@zazamaza8648]

Thanks for the review ! Short and informative. Not 2 h long ,much appreciated

[@forsenNugget-e4g]

Finally someone with normal approach to FrameGen, It's not like we whole life are trying to find solution to optimize way we generate frames.

[@garminizator]

These are some of the cleanest, most beautiful, most easy to comprehend, best for the average Joe graphs I've ever seen in a review, truly such an amazing presentation all around - from the very graphs to the whole aesthetic itself. There's a reason I first jump onto optimum's reviews prior to watching any other channel - many of them are absolutely fantastic with a ton of information, but I first need some clean and straightforward baseline to get started. Never change, Ali, seriously, never change, what you're doing is just superb. I'd personally be completely fine with the increase in performance being equivalent to the increase in power draw with the 5090 over the 4090 had the price not been equally higher. If it wasn't for that and nVidia's straight up insane lies with their marketing gaslighting us into believing how fake frames are a real performance increase as if there were no drawbacks to them whatsoever, the 5090 would be so praiseworthy.

[@needsomewater]

Your videos are so chill and to the point. My goat KZbinr hands down.

[@Dieter-4]

Kudos for the designer behind your slides and charts, really beautiful and clean stuff.

[@Geo94758]

It’s all him

[@martmeister]

This was the first review I came to and boy, was it the right decision. Fascinating analysis. Can't wait to hear about the 5080.

[@JoeyPishkin]

Your graphics are simply the best. Couldn't care less about the card. Came for the graphics.

[@Akhil-pw8fs]

I love those charts, its so minimalistic and yet has all the info i need

[@palps797]

You're videography is so good, you make me really want to get this gpu even though I have a 4080 super

[@haze86]

Opt I'm surprised you didn't talk about the fact that the founder's edition is a 2-slot card. The cooling engineering is insane.

[@jjlw2378]

Damn 575w in Furmark only hit 76°C with a tiny 2-slot cooler. Thats super impressive!

[@ShinsuZYX]

These videos are pure ASMR I swear, but visually too.

[@emmantality]

For those who also played cyberpunk, we all knew that the fps test should be done on actual combat or going around the town with the actual population. Not this specifically "chosen" scene to get more fps.

[@RUKALION]

NVIDIA is working closely with power companies 😎

[@kcrain81]

If you divide the power by the number of fps, that could be considered a power efficiency metric. Using the GoW metrics you showed around 4:00, the 4090 requires 2.88 W per fps, while the 5090 drops that value ever so slightly to 2.80 W per fps. So one COULD argue (albeit weakly) that the 5090 is slightly more efficient in the wattage per fps generated than the 4090...