🛑 Optimus VS Bitspower 4090 Waterblock Benchmark 😱

[@KatieBrandenstein]

legend has it, the guy who didnt get the optimus brand block, never won another warzone match again

[@mammothkiwi]

Something that EK never did was precut the thermal pads. Good to see other brands doing this

[@SweetJesus16]

To test block performance you just have to look at the water to gpu delta 🤦

[@WmJamesWofford]

xoxoxo looking for that magic 10+

[@100500daniel]

Bro finally committed to the hair loss 😂🎉

[@pascaldifolco4611]

I think Jufes lost his last hair over the 14900K crash and power settings debacle ^^

[@mfrfpv9079]

Just shave and workout a bit its a good look

[@Personalinfo404]

Statistically speaking, you'll experience hair loss as well

[@aj0413_]

I’m a big fan of optimus stuff and have used there blocks for two builds now, both 5950x + 3090 strix and 13900k + 4090 strix One time I had to use their CS to resolved stripped holes on 4090 block they took it back and had it fixed and back to me within week and half with consistent communication after they reached out Definitely a fan, though I’d never recommend them to someone on a budget. You buy them for aesthetic (I’m anti rgb on my blocks and hate having to disable or rip out cables on other blocks) and build quality, not for a couple degrees over cheaper competitor….that said, when 3090s had those VRAM heat issues Optimus was first to have a block that resolved that

[@whocares0503]

I like Bitspower stuff. Glad it tested well!!! Thanks!!!

[@postman3732]

Corsair block (4090 Gaming Trio) was all that was available when I purchased my GPU. Easy install with no noticeable temperature difference from previous EK blocks.

[@csabauri351]

+1 . Im pretty satisfied with my Corsair XG7 TUF4090 block . The pre-installed thermalpads are godsend.

[@chillnspace777]

​@@csabauri351pre installed pads, Oh word

[@Garrett1974]

I did end up getting the Alphacool block, performs quite similar to these, and for 100 Euros it was a steal, yeah it had been used but pristine, only had to get new thermal pads (Gelid Extreme 1mm thickness)

[@jjlw2378]

I had Optimus for 3090 and now I have Byski for 4090. I like both blocks but I think Optimus worked really well at keeping 3090 memory cool with that giant thermal pad on the the back. I wouldn't hesitate to get Byski, Watercool Heatkiller, or Optimus going forward.

[@kobishahar2962]

Watercool, i really love their heatkiller blocks, CPU and GPU, just works, works fantastic. But i have to say, precut-preplaced thermal pads? wow, big up to Bitspower, i will now definitely consider them for my next build. Good video as always.

[@PointingLasersAtAircraft]

Loves me some Bitspower and Bykski blocks. I also design and machine my own blocks every now and then but it's laborious. I do watercooling for work in physics research.

[@revolverswitch]

these have to be machined from a whole block of nickel right?

[@PointingLasersAtAircraft]

@@revolverswitch I like to use tellurium copper because it machines easier than pure copper. I don't plate them because I haven't setup a process for that. If I would I'd use an electroless nickel process because it doesn't change geometry/dimensioning as much as electro plating. Sometimes I'll skip machining microfins and use a cold plate from HeatKiller and sandwich it into a bigger block. I'm still trying to figure out how Camino skives there microfins. They have the best blocks I've seen.

[@Hardware_Neutral]

​@@PointingLasersAtAircraftEDM?

[@Hardware_Neutral]

​​​@@PointingLasersAtAircraftin NiB coating we normally only allow around .005 per surface. eN is .0005 to .0008 per surface? Have you noted any reall thermal changes between bare copper vs a Ni coating? I imagine it is so thin it doesn't inhibit thermal pass through noticeably. My understanding around nickel plating on these components (cpu lids) is used for gavanic corrosion resistance and oxidation protection etc. I imagine a smoother surface on coated fins probably helps flow rate and smoother surfaces always mate better(IHS) I imagine it offers a bit of toughness/hardness too. Ironically, copper components and fittings could function as a great biocide, but Oxidiziation would eventually make them less conductive. I'll eventually get around to doing some expirements, lol. Think about water cooled vapor chambers. Just something different. Throw in A compressor and evaporator side haha.😂 Tinkering is why we all do this right? External thermo reading with RH and dewpoint figured. Always optimal cooling. Punch the hotside out the wall lol. This rambling did give me a decent idea (not above) lol but ima try it before I post it lol.

[@revolverswitch]

@@PointingLasersAtAircraft looks like I'll have to check out those brands too. I didn't think it was possible to frankenstein different parts like that lol

[@BelowAmbient]

just fyi EK started in hardforums around 2004 selling blocks that outperformed everything for $30 with up to a 6 month waiting time....also byski makes bitspower, then bitspower throws $100 surplus on it. I like Byski because they use pretty decent thermal pads... I run alphacool when I can...

[@thebigbient8736]

bykski makes barrow i thought

[@Fred_McVan]

i have used bitspower before. i bought a used one missing the led. i got in contact with support and they helped ne with the right LED. had the product right away and was not very costly at all. i have used other products but this was the easiest and support was very helpful.

[@SolarisUK]

Watercool Heatkiller 3080ftw 3 block. RGB led strip had issues. Emailed support and they had sent me a new replacement rgb strip free of charge.

[@mnkydeth8189]

I have used, swiftech, EK, Bykski, Granzon, and Bitspower GPU blocks over the years. I personally have never had an issue with any of the blocks. So I never needed customer service from any of them. However.... For some reason I will always buy a swiftech product over any of the others. But, I don't know if they make blocks anymore. I've been very impressed with Bykski and Bitspower lately on my current GPUs. As for CPU blocks... I don't buy anything but Iceman blocks now.

[@eawblablatron9161]

looll the "Chechen autonomist" look continues 😂❤

[@konjiki240sx]

I have used bykski, ek and alpha cool. Never actually had a problem with any of them.

[@thewarriorpainter9159]

I’ve used Optimus, I like the product BUT they have maybe the worst customer support imaginable.

[@oOooooooooyeah1]

I love my Alphacool blocks

[@Horendus123]

Oh man I always get so excited when tube burps one of your videos to the top of my feed. You always deliver the hardware entertainment scratch iv come to realise I need with great humour mixed in. On topic, last gpu water block I used was for a AM R290. That thing actually needed one to run its advertised clocks for more than 30 seconds😂 Dont recall the brand, sold it and moved onto 1080 > 3080 > 4090

[@MilesWarkosigan]

Funny that I didnt see any water temp\ambient temp and flow rate. What kind of "test" is it? Weather forecast on Jupiter?

[@feniksgamingchannel9066]

Видрина ти морда 🤣

[@isakh8565]

It's not that serious

[@kaiwenwu8148]

unless you want put 1000w load, it is no difference.

[@BSF-7772]

"the law of the cheapest model" is a proof again it's working

[@Gamer-sq8vc]

I would put Koolance, Bitspower ,and Aquacomputer in a sort of high-mid area, higher than mid and below Optimus. Koolance, Bitspower, and Aquacomputer make top-notch stuff. This would have been perfect if an "affordable tier" block was also in the comparison, like Byksi or Barrow. Thanks for the awesome vid.

[@KaosII1968]

Bitspower is a new player in the water cooling market..??? That is the biggest lie I have heard. I have Bitspower products going back 15 years.

[@Me99adon]

not gonna lie, I think I like the bitspower better...love the clear

[@Ascendor81]

Love the new hairstyle! Good video! Just using the OG 4090 FE, no waterblock.

[@314LA]

Cool. There is only one question left - quality. Copper, nickel, etc.

[@VerticalTaco88]

Heat Killer is the best no question, and they just released an upgraded cold plate.

[@unitybeing777]

Jufus, u amazing geek of note, what a awesome review. I used EK since 2012-2020. Glad u shouting out for the other competitors!

[@michaelthompson9798]

I’ve been using Barrow/Barrowch and Bykski now for about 4 years and had better QC and correct pieces supplied with them compared to EK’s abhorrent QC and having to deal with their customer service for missing parts and missing thermal pads and having to ultimately buy my own thermal pads to get my EK GPU waterblocks to work …….. 2x errors by EK has resulted in me ignoring them as a GPU cooling option for any future builds!

[@Doshi-lp4tn]

Flow rate is most important... A powerful pump would tear that acrylic apart

[@MrFoxRox]

For GPU blocks I have had mostly Bitspower and Hydro Copper. No problems with either one, and only owned Hydro Copper because they were the only block available for the Kingpin GPUs. I do have an Alphacool block on one of my 4090s and a Bitspower on the other one and there is no difference in performance. I've never had to use their customer service, but I would suspect that Alphacool would be better if I needed to. I did have a Barrow block once and it was OK except that none of the screws that came with it were the correct size. I had to buy all new screws. It wasn't worth the hassle to ask for their support for the extra $5.00 it cost for new screws.

[@szymontrojanowski7565]

For the price difference between Optimus, and cheapest block available, you can buy Chinese industrial water chiller, and beat Optimus even by 20°C if you are brave enough.

[@BreezzersGaming]

EK deserves everything they are getting, take it on the chin EK, Bricked my 3090, and blamed EVGA, EVGA had a 80+ page thread of the EK block bricking 3090's and it was growing every day, that was the last $$ EK got of my money

[@swizzler8053]

F them. Especially with their mad high prices.

[@brettbainbridge3154]

The block you got a smoking deal on, did it have the revision 2 cold plate and midplate, out of interest? You're right, the performance difference doesn't justify the cost difference, no argument there, it's a premium splurge if you like the aesthetics and the craftsmanship, not a value/$ play. And that's okay as long as you're honest with yourself and not posturing at others.

[@nick8150]

Jufes I've got a comino 4090 waterblock on my gigabyte board and I swear i win every final circle with it. Every pound of copper equates to 1 kill per death on average

[@unitybeing777]

You rock, u rock, u rock, watching.

[@richardallankellogg]

Bitspower makes more than one 4090 waterblock. Which model is this.

[@selwrynn6702]

I have heard (in random comment sections) that Optimus is not the best with customer service, but I've never interacted with them myself. As a bit of a patriot however I do like that they are US based & use US sourced materials, not that I can afford any new PC parts presently.

[@MilesWarkosigan]

Their support was great for me every time I've contacted them

[@drshoots101]

I'm looking for a good water block for a nvidia 4080 super. I would go for the Optimus just so it matches the cpu wb but they don't have one for the 4080.

[@ProfessorBalance]

Could you test Bykski? I do not see any serious test of Bykski at all! Like it GPU block and its recent $10 (in their home country) 0.08mm channel CPU waterblock.

[@francescosorci5595]

Hey Jufus. Please do more heavy shrugs and shoulder exercises at the gym / at home. Everything else looking great.

[@BOX-069]

I ordered an optimus block for my 3090 kpe when they came out, it was 600 something and said 4 to 6 weeks shipping. 3 months later after ordering i emailed them and they said another 4 or 5 months. I got a refund and will never order another thing from them. At the time there was only 2 options for that card.

[@lukastyler9137]

This Video was nice and interesting- I look for a new waterblock.

[@WmJamesWofford]

I got me Optimus cause it’s pretty and matched me Godlike

[@MrButuz]

Bits power every day for me. Rear exit is just much better for plumbing look/feel too. Let the rich boys and girls blow their wads (of credit card debt) on things like the optimus who cares about them.

[@FrgottenFrshness]

The precut and preapplied thermal pads alone is making me want to choose bits power more than anything

[@Cryemoar]

Optimus manufactures in house in the US, out of Illinois. This explains the manufacturing costs vs a Chinese company

[@DadBodGamerXL]

you the man!

[@AFpaleoCon]

You don't have to buy it as a status simple, how about the fact Optimus is made in the USA? That's why I buy them.

[@johanandersson-v7s]

I have the Powercolor fighter 7800 xt. Cant find Any block for it 😴 I know it problaby dont need one but i would like to make a full loop

[@jj6540]

you can put a rgb strip in between the bracket and the block where the exposed plexiglass shows, as far as customer service goes ive purchased 3 blocks and none of them came in the time specified by optimus and im not talking a couple days or weeks late i didnt get my kp block till 3 mo after it was supposed to show up, my 4090 block took almost two months after specified time and rev 2 4090 block took a month after specified time oh yeah i forgot they totally forgot to ship cpu waterblock for my 10900k and took there sweet time to reply to that one, they are horrible on estimated time with shipping they tell you a couple weeks that ends up being 1,2,3 months extremely irritating this all happened almost a year ago so maybe they have gotten better that being said there blocks are really nice but expensive. got a 4090 tuf/strix rev 1 optimus block practicaly new and a full coverage ek block new in box for tuf/srix 4090 for a good price if you are interested Jufes

[@pascaldifolco4611]

I've bought stuff at Alphacool and really their customer service was very nice and good. But I'm in Europe maybe it's not the same in the US (they're German)

[@connorharris1900]

Barrow(ch) is the best. Low tolerance machining and lowest price. best value

[@rikogarza1729]

optimus customer support cant be beat, they actully own issues when they happen, also they are highly over manufactured so all components kept cool, id definately buy a used gpu if i knew for its lifetime the gpu was under an optimus block, even if it was used for mining! that should say alot.

[@MrKZdemos]

bitspower also has the best nickel plating

[@thebigbient8736]

just bought an alphacool waterblock and distroplate...😑

[@Tony-ol4bt]

Q. Diff with stock strix cooler?

[@WmJamesWofford]

Best one I’ve ever used is ekwb with AB easy 10k in steel

[@Mojave_Ranger_NCR]

Kratos reviews computer hardware now?

[@ImMegaDeath]

Jufes is slowly becoming kratos and im here for it!!

[@deltacrna3849]

I dont have a water block. That’s why I’m bronze.

[@mfrfpv9079]

All my stuff is EK and Alpha NFL lolz

[@granthampson5917]

Big up to Bitspower for idiot proof GPU block!

[@outlet6989]

What PC builders won't do or will do to have a system that's a few degrees cooler or a few FPS greater. What they get for the money spent is just a few extra bragging points.

[@SundayFoggyNotions]

WTF happened to PART 2 of fastest 6.2Ghz PC EVER?!

[@akdragonpc473]

CPU probably degraded, 😅

[@FrameChasers]

Naw my TEC cooler blew up during a LAN party and haven’t gotten around to putting a direct die on it yet, too many consults and bundle orders swamping me

[@RyanFennec]

boomed

[@SundayFoggyNotions]

@@FrameChasers Thank you times a million for your quick answer! Didn't answer the question though. WILL there be a PART 2 or NO? I'm fine either way! You ROCK!! CHEERS!!

[@FrameChasers]

@@SundayFoggyNotions sure when I have time, why not

[@Monk-Darlington]

totally accurate vid as an optimus fanboy, only buy them if you have the cash spare and like the looks, while they were cooler than others (tested vs phantek and bykski), it was within 1 or 2 degrees and zero performance gain. they do have great customer service atleast.

[@tdub77]

Made in the US also if that matters to you guys

[@Monk-Darlington]

@@tdub77 not in the slightest, I'm English, it just pushes the price up :)

[@tdub77]

@@Monk-Darlington ok does it matter that they are former nasa engineers then?

[@Monk-Darlington]

@@tdub77 not to me tbh, I bought their stuff (cpu block, pump/res, 3090 and 4090 blocks) because of the looks and the craftsmanship, how they got there or where they are from is secondary tbh, I just loved the look and that was enough to justify the cost to me, it's engineering art compared to alternatives, but, as I said originally, only worth it if you have the cash spare and love the look, don't buy for any performance gain.

[@davidsmith4186]

Want to compete!

[@PointingLasersAtAircraft]

RGB adds 5 horsepower.

[@dr.hannibal8338]

bro wish I have his beard tho

[@AKMcF]

Cheers ears :)

[@starlightHT]

Frame C is embarrassed to put a $90 cooler on a $2000 graphics card, but manufacturers aren't ashamed to put a $50 cooler.

[@jonathankurz207]

Not paying for crazy performance when going with Optimus. You’re paying for the handcrafted premium quality and materials.

[@Ryxxi_makes]

handcrafted ??? its all machined..

[@6r3ys0n]

handcrafted 😂😂😂

[@feynex31]

Ladies and Gentlemen we got a fanboy

[@Kaymen1980]

Taiwan Vs America made, let's go!

[@bborb]

show the hotspots

[@Ryxxi_makes]

can you do bykski granzon pls ? cant buy bitspowee here

[@FrameChasers]

Naw watercooling videos don’t do well and I can’t monetize them, I won’t be doing anymore going forward

[@JazekFTW]

But you havent showed anything... I mean, no methodology of testing, no ambient temp for delta, which loads, nothing.... In the end we dont know if they are the same or what

[@feniksgamingchannel9066]

Every his "testing" is like that. Totally useless shit for harmsters.

[@Mark-nc2nx]

With a GPU that doesn't have warranty so it doesn't matter if you try a block on it .... Asus for those how dare........

[@chrish1850]

My 4090 strix in stock configuration has never exceeded 70c after hours of gaming. This is with the fans on auto (so off/30% for the most part). If I lock the fans at 50% it hovers in the mid 50c area. I guess what im getting at is it has a decent cooler right out of the box.

[@tdub77]

Thanks for this. Very cool comparison. I believe if you buy the Optimus new the pads are also pre cut. Not sure if they are pre installed though. Thanks

[@tdub77]

Also it looks like you can get the Optimus block from titan right for around $375 right now

[@Rashimotosan]

They are precut

[@rehon101]

Have you seen those direct die ram water blocks, the more I learn about everything PC I think it is a money scam 😂, you think it is?

[@FrameChasers]

Oh yeah we have a few guys with those in the discord, there’s no temperature difference between those and regular ram blocks

[@rehon101]

@@FrameChasers rip those guys 200$ 🗑. also why not alphacool? I get EK

[@FrgottenFrshness]

​@@rehon101 he already said in the video because of their customer service don't buy EK or Alpha Cool because of their customer service in case you missed it the second time😂

[@rehon101]

@@FrgottenFrshness ok won't miss it the second time

[@LMRHara]

Bloke didn't even check to see Hotspot delta between core and hotspot temps for each block ? LOL you troll Jaystwocents on Ram frequency, but completely botch your own review ????? Why ??

[@bartman2395]

ek not a player? bruh stop hahahaha, they back on track

[@m8x425]

you should have put the EK block in this test to show how much of a piece of shit it is

[@Nevsack63]

Terrible review. He missed out on GPU hotspot delta.

[@FrameChasers]

Same delta on both, it’s irrelevant

[@levispartan1993]

also im poor but i dont mind being called poor because i am poor

[@levispartan1993]

bitspower been around ages fittings are good also just hate the shitty dragon branding like msis shitty branding bitpower and hardwarelabs for rads are my only go to

[@JAH12PRO]

I’ve used 2 Ekwb blocks and they haven’t failed me. Their products are good. I heard many customer service nightmares but I think maybe sometimes people overreact like babies. Not everything in life is always perfect. Products fail and it happens from time to time. I’ll still use Ekwb for as long as they exist.

[@FrgottenFrshness]

Do you go to work and expect to get paid for that work??? Or do you not care about being able to feed yourself and put a roof over your own head???

[@junkyeyes]

How come Alphacool is dog shit?

[@5michael5]

🤣🤡💩🌏