Poker vs Options Trading + using Reward/Risk to trade with an edge

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Option Alpha

Option Alpha

Күн бұрын

www.optionalph... - In today's video I contrast a common poker scenario with options trading scenarios, cover how to calculate minimum reward/risk for trades to have an edge and reflect on the results of recent earnings trades.
Check out the rest of the Options Trading 2.0 playlist in which I set up and trade a $10K account from scratch:
• Options Trading 2.0
- These trades are my own personal trades not trading advice.

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@furnitureguy6125
@furnitureguy6125 4 ай бұрын
You left out the 3 aces which would possibly give you best hand. A 3x raise on his bet is best move in this situation. You can't compare to options because you can win MANY hands in poker without having the best hand
@scottmichael4333
@scottmichael4333 4 ай бұрын
3 out of 100 bots, who do I give my credit card number to for that plan? haha I really like your using other examples of using probabilities, ie poker and sports betting, I personally enjoy both of those as well. While I knew the principle of your r/r needed calculation I've actually never seen the formula to use to calculate it, thank you! One thing about getting down on your earnings plays, iirc, you only had to hit 1 out of 5 to break even. 1 round of 5 trades with high risk/rewards failing isn't a big enough sampling imo, and I really liked your mixing in of long trades as its easier to get to a higher risk/reward
@OptionAlpha
@OptionAlpha 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for the encouragement on the earnings trades. I may decide to try again once I have profits to risk instead of my starting capital and earnings season heats up again.
@amirlesser8566
@amirlesser8566 4 ай бұрын
A very interesting video, in my understanding the result of the division should be a maximum of % R/R and not a minimum because every percentage above the result means a lower chance of profit and actually an increase in the chance of loss
@GibsonsVapeShop
@GibsonsVapeShop 4 ай бұрын
What about the implied odds? There is still one more betting round to go after that river comes out. If you hit that heart, you may win his whole stack if he has two pair, a set, or a lower flush.
@peterholmes2089
@peterholmes2089 4 ай бұрын
I like that formula. Unless I am not seeing it, that doesn't appear to be calculated in the stats. Or is that essentially factored into the EV value?
@OptionAlpha
@OptionAlpha 4 ай бұрын
Yes, the EV value is a much more complex formula that factors in all the price points in between the strikes as well. I believe there's still value in displaying it though. We will add it for the release coming next weekend.
@peterholmes2089
@peterholmes2089 4 ай бұрын
@@OptionAlpha Thank you, that would be great:)
@JLF809
@JLF809 4 ай бұрын
Thank you Jack. Do you have any backtesting data on this?
@walking.phoenix
@walking.phoenix 4 ай бұрын
Jack, would this formula work for neutral short-term trades like Iron Butterflies, where max profit is rarely (if ever) captured? If so, would you use the Probability of Profit % (the gravy as you called it) vs the Probability of Max Profit % to set up your calculations? Also, will this formula be built out as a recipe to add to automations? It seems like the numbers will be different for each possible trade, so how can it be utilized w/o placing trades manually?
@leedunkelberger9768
@leedunkelberger9768 4 ай бұрын
the extra gravy " ) is theta and IV drop .. like this way better than the coin flip " ) If you see Kirk see if he knows where that 52 cards in a deck vid he did moons ago is hiding should be shared far and wide " ) changed the way I trade BOOM
@quartzimaging
@quartzimaging 4 ай бұрын
Yes, it may take a while for the value of a probability approach to show a durable edge. However, waiting for 1,000 trades to see an edge is waiting too long. If that happens, some part of your modeling is flawed.
@ronsexton3685
@ronsexton3685 4 ай бұрын
If I thought i could make more than the monthly fee, it would be more interesting.
@Moneyghostred
@Moneyghostred 4 ай бұрын
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