Optoma UHZ65 4K DLP Laser Projector vs Sony VPL-VW365ES True 4K SXRD Projector

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@Tvspecialists
@Tvspecialists 7 жыл бұрын
We just added the UHZ65 vs VPL-VW365ES comparison post (with high-res color-accurate pictures of the comparisons) to our website blog. Check it out at: www.tvspecialists.com/optoma-uhz65-projector-comparison-vs-sony-vpl-vw365es/
@MichaelOberhardt
@MichaelOberhardt 7 жыл бұрын
You say in the review at about the 4:50 that the Sony doesn't use an iris. The 265 doesn't have a dynamic iris, but the 365 does according to others and Sony themselves. Did you disable it or something
@tedbollinger3306
@tedbollinger3306 7 жыл бұрын
According to both our Sony training and their website you have to go to the 675ES or the new 385ES to get a "lens iris" but we did not do anything to disable one. The Sony does have some form of dynamic light control which is why it has such good blacks but on bright scenes the blacks are not quite as good as would be expected with an iris or dynamic light control. In either case when the scene is somewhat normal or bright the iris or dynamic light control is at minimum which is where this Optoma does very well and can hang with the best we have seen.
@Madcypher
@Madcypher 7 жыл бұрын
You guys do an awesome job with your projector comparisons!!! Keep em coming!
@Tvspecialists
@Tvspecialists 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you! We appreciate it and would welcome your subscribe!
@markkaupas8921
@markkaupas8921 7 жыл бұрын
I have a 92 inch mitsubishi DLP tv and I can tell you it has a very smooth picture with excellent color. It is razor sharp with a good signal. It has never had any motion problems at all. I can watch this tv all day long and my eyes never get tired unlike my wife's LCD. I have had this tv for almost 6 years and pulled the light engine to clean the fans, lens and heat sinks. When I put in a new bulb the picture looks like it did when I first turned it on. The light engine is sealed from dust and that is a huge plus. My next purchase will definitely be a laser base DLP. A 120 inch screen will fit perfectly in my living room and a UHZ65 sounds like a really good move.
@kenormsby6702
@kenormsby6702 7 жыл бұрын
The scene with the stars said it all for me. The rest is miniscule in reality, but boy does the Optoma make that scene pop!
@bloodscourge
@bloodscourge 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this, and at the one point specifically talking about the 4k image on the DLP projectors. People hear "shift" and they freak out calling it an e-shift, which the DLPs are not. It's a physical mirror shift that then produces another row of individual pixels... it's just don't at something ludicrous like 3-10 microseconds. So the DLP is a true 4k image, it's just interlaced at the microsecond timescale.
@tedbollinger3306
@tedbollinger3306 7 жыл бұрын
Correct, the "optical actuator" of the DLP chip is very different that "e Shift" or "4K enhancement", there are twice as many pixels on the screen and the key result is surprising many skeptics when they see it in person as it is a very good image and hard to beat under $5K and even under $10K it is competitive in detail and sharpness.
@bloodscourge
@bloodscourge 7 жыл бұрын
One other question, does the UHZ65 have lens memory for easy switching between 16:9 and cinema scope aspect ratios? Or is that going to have to be a manual zoom adjustment?
@tedbollinger3306
@tedbollinger3306 7 жыл бұрын
The UHZ does not have a motorized lens or lens memory. It does have the anamorphic stretch and compression for use with an anamprphic lens which does not give up brightness or resolution, however.
@Nocturnalis1978
@Nocturnalis1978 6 жыл бұрын
Overall, I think the Optoma puts out a nicer picture, much more true to life with what I would call "superior microcontrast" despite having a lower native resolution. I was bothered by the blues appearing purple but after going over to the website I saw that that isn't the case, the blues are blue, REALLY blue and not purple like what the video shows, whereas Sony's blues look more cyan (which is likely closer to reality). The main difference I see other than the microcontrast is in regards to the white balance. The Optoma has a cooler white balance whereas the Sony has a warmer white balance. They both look amazing though but for me, the difference in price would be the ultimate determining factor.
@tomloon9142
@tomloon9142 7 жыл бұрын
Uhz65 looks way more real life. Thanks for the video!
@markkaupas8921
@markkaupas8921 7 жыл бұрын
If you freeze the frame at 8:03 notice the the cross bars on the windows you will see on the DLP they are much brighter and actually show some that the Sony can't produce or they are much more pronounced on the DLP. Everything looks sharper on the DLP.
@tedbollinger3306
@tedbollinger3306 7 жыл бұрын
It sure did in comparison to the 365ES we had which was brand new. We are very interested to see the new Sony and hop to have one in the next couple of weeks.
@hddanman7263
@hddanman7263 7 жыл бұрын
Im sure it looks different in person but the sony looks a lot brighter but in some shots the optoma has better color but my eyes still perfered the sonys brightness kinda frustrating. Thanks for these vids.
@tedbollinger3306
@tedbollinger3306 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, it really is almost scene dependent which one looks best. Also the sample we had may or may not be the full final performance of the production versions. We will update as soon as we get our own unit hopefully later this week if any changes. We did not have time to calibrate in any of its brighter modes so stay tunes for updates. As far as color the high res and more accurate color still are now up at our new blog. www.tvspecialists.com/optoma-uhz65-projector-comparison-vs-sony-vpl-vw365es/
@Saiku73
@Saiku73 7 жыл бұрын
Great comparison. I just sprung for a UHD65 and now I'm wondering if I acted in haste. Granted , there is nothing like it at 2.5K but the new Sony and the UHZ look oh-so-tempting.
@tedbollinger3306
@tedbollinger3306 7 жыл бұрын
You should be good, unless you need the higher brightness of the Sony or UHZ65 the improved color is not a night and day difference just an incremental improvements and the contrast is really only slightly better due to the higher light output thereby increasing the overall contrast ratio. The main advantage is the higher brightness as this time we compared the Sony in its brightest mode where before we were in its low mode to be fair to the UHD65. Of course if you are a big fan of HDR then yes, either of these projectors definitely give you more punch.
@kennysworld7699
@kennysworld7699 6 жыл бұрын
A comparison between native 4k projectors that support 3D would be nice!
@DjTonioRoffo
@DjTonioRoffo 7 жыл бұрын
Hello TVS Pro, will you also compare the UHZ65 straight to the UHD65? Also, any word on 3D in the UHZ65? Will you also compare with Acer VL7860?
@tedbollinger3306
@tedbollinger3306 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, we will do a UHD65 and the UHZ65 comparison with a final production version of the UHZ65 instead of a "sample" We do not handle the Acer line of projectors but would be glad to compare if one were to be sent to us.
@tonioroffo6414
@tonioroffo6414 7 жыл бұрын
Ted Bollinger thank you. I'm also curious about the 11 laser intensity settings. Does it help for setting an acceptable black level? Is black/contrast better than UHD65?
@tedbollinger3306
@tedbollinger3306 7 жыл бұрын
We just got our own UHD65 for our demos so we will verify. The laser can go down to 50% power so it should allow even better blacks. We hope to start second round testing by mid November. Contrast is better because the brightness is higher, blacks appear to be about the same at 100% power. Will test 50% in the future.
@twinturbo111
@twinturbo111 7 жыл бұрын
What about motion ? Which one is better when during a fast action scene or sports ?
@tedbollinger3306
@tedbollinger3306 7 жыл бұрын
Great question, the Sony is known for its excellent motion handling and this new UHZ65 also has the same "pure motion engine" that we compare to the UHD60 in this video at kzbin.info/www/bejne/rqrKfJeNn9Z1etU and is very good and can be set to your liking.
@johnlonappan7945
@johnlonappan7945 7 жыл бұрын
Hello Ted, How does the HD content (either streaming contents or blue ray disks ) up-scaling works on UHZ65 and Sony 365 ? . Especially the Sony blue-ray player is up scaling the HD content to 4K.
@Tvspecialists
@Tvspecialists 7 жыл бұрын
The upscaling of HD content on both the UHZ65 and Sony VPL-VW365 is very good, although we have not done in depth comparison between them on their upscaling capabilities....yet! Also keep in mind that there are several places you could potentially have the upscaling take place, a 4k/UHD Blu-ray player, a receiver, or the projector (or TV). You can have the Sony Blu-ray (or other player) do the upscaling, or you can have them send out the native resolution on the disc. I.e. dvd:480p, Blu-ray: 1080p, UHD Blu-ray: 4k. The same is true with many receivers as well, you can have them do the scaling or just have them pass through the native resolution, and have the projector do the upscaling. Where you have it done, really depends on what and where you want the scaling to occur. Typically you would want whatever device has the best video processing and upscaling capabilities to do it, whether that is the Blu-ray player, the receiver, or the projector. -Mike Bollinger
@bryanhamon2928
@bryanhamon2928 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comparison. Looking forward to the UHZ65 vs sony 385 in the future. When you measured brightness in the video, the UHZ65 was more than 10% brighter than the Sony, but in the comparison diagram, the 65 is rated lower than the Sony. Did I miss something? The measurements in the vid were after calibration right?
@mikebpiper
@mikebpiper 7 жыл бұрын
Bryan Hamon thank you for pointing that out good catch it looks like that might be a mistake we made when creating that comparison chart, we'll have to take a look at that. I believe you are correct in that the measurements were taken after calibration but will have to confirm that with Ted who is out of town right now. -Mike Bollinger /TVS Pro
@tedbollinger3306
@tedbollinger3306 7 жыл бұрын
So, the brightness measurements were clearly in favor of the UHZ65, however if you look closely at the charts you will see the Z is slightly higher. We now have our own production version of the projector and it is even brighter than our pre-release version. We will revise our chart even more based on our new soon to done comparison with the new Sony VPLVW285ES projector which we should be getting in the next couple of weeks.
@munirkhan2996
@munirkhan2996 6 жыл бұрын
Optoma Very Nice UHZ65 4K DLP Laser Projector Very Nice Colour Picture Quality Very Nice
@8phenom
@8phenom 7 жыл бұрын
Will you be comparing vivitek hk2288 or hk2299 in the near future
@tedbollinger3306
@tedbollinger3306 7 жыл бұрын
We hope to, our Vivitek rep is saying it will be a while as they are having some supply issues. It looked good at the CEDIA demos, but more like the UHD60 than the UHD65, will know more when we can test.
@GBD85
@GBD85 7 жыл бұрын
Input lag?
@tedbollinger3306
@tedbollinger3306 7 жыл бұрын
We did not test the input lag, but the UHD65 is not a good choice because of it "pure engine" delay if you are a serious gamer. I would recommend the Sony or perhaps even the UHD60 (no pure engine delay) AVS forum post shows: " UHD60 ($1999) has variable 33ms-50ms input lag (2-3 frames @ 60fps). It supports full speed HDMI and all. Supposedly fantastic for gaming, and the fastest 4K UHD projector under $7000." Just not sure how accurate that info is.
@paulkelley5269
@paulkelley5269 7 жыл бұрын
The Optima blues look very purple, can that be adjusted to make it look more blue?
@Tvspecialists
@Tvspecialists 7 жыл бұрын
Please see the comments in the description. We have still images on our blog post that show the color as more accurate: www.tvspecialists.com/optoma-uhz65-projector-comparison-vs-sony-vpl-vw365es/
@jeepmap1
@jeepmap1 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome what you guys are doing; one of its kind
@twinturbo111
@twinturbo111 7 жыл бұрын
Are these projectors worth 2X the price of the UHD65 ? Which leads me to ask : how does the UHZ65 compare to the UHD65 ?
@tedbollinger3306
@tedbollinger3306 7 жыл бұрын
Glad you asked, we just posted the UHD65 and UHZ65 comparison charts (Theo-Charts) at tvspecialists.com/projector-comparison-charts-theo-charts/ so if you look carefully you will see that the UHZ65 has better color, higher contrast, much brighter light output (better HDR) and of course a laser good for 20,000 hrs to half life. Worth of UHZ65 projector depends on your budget, screen size and level of enthusiasm. Keep in mind the only other 4K HT projectors are upwards of $25,000! So yes, way worth it if your budget allows.
@kenormsby6702
@kenormsby6702 7 жыл бұрын
Pleeeeeeeese do a side by side comparison
@kenormsby6702
@kenormsby6702 7 жыл бұрын
Seeing as HDR and Colour are far more important than resolution, I really want to see the UHZ Vs UHD65 comparison with 4k HDR material. Especially scenes such as the star field, and The Grand Tour from Amazon. I would be happy with a HDR 1080p projector at this point.
@juanpizarro3335
@juanpizarro3335 7 жыл бұрын
They already did a comparison: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p2WqeGyImd2MqKM
@bhargan
@bhargan 7 жыл бұрын
Can you do a comparison of uhz 65 and uhd 65?
@tedbollinger3306
@tedbollinger3306 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, once we get our own UHZ65 we will complete the UHD65 comparison info and publish, hopefully by end of November.
@abidyousaf6874
@abidyousaf6874 7 жыл бұрын
can you do a comparison with the uhd65 please
@Tvspecialists
@Tvspecialists 7 жыл бұрын
We currently have several comparisons up with the uhd65: vs Sony VPL-VW365ES: kzbin.info/www/bejne/f3mman2NgquWmbM vs Epson Pro Cinema 4040: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mXWxdn-MorCNnM0 vs Epson Pro Cinema LS10500: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mXWxdn-MorCNnM0 vs Optoma UHD60: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rqrKfJeNn9Z1etU
@AGC828
@AGC828 6 жыл бұрын
For me with the majority of the photos the Optoma showed more pleasing results to my eyes. And costs 50% less. :)
@tedbollinger3306
@tedbollinger3306 6 жыл бұрын
Since we represent both we are trying to be as fair as possible, however, the Optoma was a real eye opener and they do a remarkable image for the money we would agree. I ended up getting the UHZ65 personally as I love the fact that the laser does not drop 20 -30% of its brightness like lamps do as well.
@juneoj
@juneoj 7 жыл бұрын
Sony has a more true to color while the Optoma has better darker level details. In brighter scenes the Sony has better details. It appears all the prjector reviews I've seen. All projectors have their plus and minus. At this point you got to look at price point and what you get. I think the Optoma overall has decent picture for the price.
@tedbollinger3306
@tedbollinger3306 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, if you need 3D or high speed gaming with low latency then without question the Sony is the way to go. If you are just looking for a great 4K image at the best cost then the Optoma is hard to beat. We will be comparing the new Sony VPLVW285 to the UHZ in the coming months and that should also be interesting.
@georgexydous2891
@georgexydous2891 7 жыл бұрын
whats the input lag for UHZ65 ?
@Tvspecialists
@Tvspecialists 7 жыл бұрын
Latency is about 45 ms if "pure engine" is off - which is OK for most casual gaming but not for serious gamers.
@oliverplaydj
@oliverplaydj 5 жыл бұрын
@@Tvspecialists 45ms very good for multiplayer games ?
@zakariajabir1138
@zakariajabir1138 6 жыл бұрын
Very informative and detail review. can you please make a comparison between Optoma UHZ65 vs LG HU80KA.
@tedbollinger3306
@tedbollinger3306 6 жыл бұрын
There is already a good review at ProjectorCentral.com but basically if you need portability and do not need very much brightness (770 lumen range for decent color) the LG may be an option for you. If you have the room for the UHZ65 which can output a usable 3,000 lumens it is a far more practical choice for most home theaters.
@jcrockoo7
@jcrockoo7 7 жыл бұрын
Can the UHZ65 do cinemascope?
@Tvspecialists
@Tvspecialists 7 жыл бұрын
Yes it can - with an anamorphic lens.
@jcrockoo7
@jcrockoo7 7 жыл бұрын
TVS Pro I think it has the best detail out of most 4k projectors. But for me, the Epson 6040UB with its lens memory would be a better option. Cinemascope out of the box can't be beat. I hate black bars.
@K11...
@K11... 4 жыл бұрын
How is it possible that the colors come out differently when both pj’s are calibrated? Whats the point of calibrating then?
@tedbollinger3306
@tedbollinger3306 4 жыл бұрын
Great question, even though we try and calibrate to within a few degrees of each other and they do look very close in person (even when Kris Deering, a national respected calibrated was here) the camera shows even a few degress difference and we do try and point that out during the comparison when we see it. Always best is to see in person side by side whenever possible.
@05tsamra
@05tsamra 6 жыл бұрын
hows the uhz65 for gaming
@tedbollinger3306
@tedbollinger3306 6 жыл бұрын
It's fine for casual gaming but a little slow for those who do competitive on line gaming. You really want something under 30 or 40 ms for serious gaming and this only gets to about 65 or 70 with all processing (Pure engine) turned off.
@05tsamra
@05tsamra 6 жыл бұрын
@@tedbollinger3306 is that PS4 compatible
@tedbollinger3306
@tedbollinger3306 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, but remember if you are doing multiplayer games on PS4 or any system, you may want faster response times, other games are fine in most cases.
@gabe606
@gabe606 5 жыл бұрын
i prefer the color in the right ..just mop (vpl)
@gabe606
@gabe606 5 жыл бұрын
the uhz is better for the night scene since i am able to see the stars better
@ekklesiast
@ekklesiast 5 жыл бұрын
I don't understand. How can Optoma produce black levels and contrast comparable to Sony, despite having quite limited native on/off contrast ratio, about 1000:1?
@Tvspecialists
@Tvspecialists 5 жыл бұрын
On off contrast is very different from simultaneous contrast or on-screen actual contrast. DLP projectors if using a good high contrast chip and very good light control in the light engine have a potential to do very good simultaneous actual contrast. The closest spec would be ANSI contrast but most manufacture do not publish this specification.
@jimcameron1234
@jimcameron1234 7 жыл бұрын
TVS Pro are you going to Review and compare Laser OPTOMA UHZ65 vs. Laser SONY VPL VW760ES (US version 885ES)?
@tedbollinger3306
@tedbollinger3306 7 жыл бұрын
Probably not, but we will if we get the chance. We are planning on doing the new 385 however later this year.
@vagomaniac
@vagomaniac 7 жыл бұрын
The best place to be if someone is interested in serious hometheater projection. Good job people
@Tvspecialists
@Tvspecialists 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you! We appreciate it and would welcome the subscribe!
@vagomaniac
@vagomaniac 7 жыл бұрын
Done that. I cannot wait for the new 5000 sony to be compared. You could be more competitive if you also reviewed some ''hot'' projectors and in the end of the video they would be compared to your reference one sbs. Calibration numbers as a bonus every now and then would be appreciated :D
@tedbollinger3306
@tedbollinger3306 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, we will probably review the Sony VPLVW385ES next as the 5000 is out of reach for most and the 285ES is essentially a slightly lens improved 365ES. We tentatively have a new JVC lined up in November. What "hot " 4K projectors are you wanting to see?
@vagomaniac
@vagomaniac 7 жыл бұрын
By hot I mean the best in their class. Maybe some more affordable models like sony vpl45 or epson 6700 would reach a wider audience. You have already covered most of the best though. Jvc needs to work harder for a native 4k model that doesn’t cost a fortune without a reason. Sony got it years ago...
@tedbollinger3306
@tedbollinger3306 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you, stay tuned. With 4K now under $2K we'll compare all others (including HD like the 45ES) to 4k but with the Theo-Charts it will make more sense and still allow HD to HD. Once you have experienced good 4K with HDR and wider color, its hard to go back but I understand then need.
@anhnguyenhai8214
@anhnguyenhai8214 6 жыл бұрын
Screen name pls
@rick-val22
@rick-val22 7 жыл бұрын
Earth looked purple on the UHZ65. It has problems with blue. But the contrast is great
@Tvspecialists
@Tvspecialists 7 жыл бұрын
As noted in the description: IMPORTANT: Please note that the purple-blues in the video are an error in the camera capture (shutter speed+ sequential color) and even though the blues are very different the UHZ65 is not purpleish blue! Please see the high res color-accurate photos (taken at the same time) in the blog review at www.tvspecialists.com/optoma-uhz65-projector-comparison-vs-sony-vpl-vw365es/ for more accurate color comparisons.
@besi1974
@besi1974 7 жыл бұрын
great vid. sony images are hard to beat on tvs ,proj. but their prices are f... ing ridiculous.
@Tvspecialists
@Tvspecialists 7 жыл бұрын
No question, Sony has stunning images on their displays. However I would tend to disagree with you a little, in that my experience on most of their displays (certainly TVs) has been that they are very competitive, and in some cases lower cost for a better image than their competition. That isn’t to say that they don’t have a few premium pieces that are expensive, but even in those, they are not the most expensive on the market. While they are proud of their projectors, I’ve yet to come across anyone who has been disappointed. -Mike Bollinger
@letitbe978
@letitbe978 5 жыл бұрын
I hope you make comparasion beetwen jvc nx5 vs sony 295es
@ayset.w.2671
@ayset.w.2671 7 жыл бұрын
Could you review PX800HD. There are so few reviews but it looks promising. I find your reviews more accurate and professional so would love to read or watch a review from you. LS820 looks good too. But again not so popular. Maybe because lack of reviews.
@mikebpiper
@mikebpiper 7 жыл бұрын
We would be happy to review one if someone would send us one. -Mike Bollinger / TVS Pro
@TheaterAtReference
@TheaterAtReference 5 жыл бұрын
Man this is why I like projector comparisons like this video ... The skin tone on the Optoma is so much more realistic and natural looking the Sony looks artificial and overly saturated
@mikeliu8740
@mikeliu8740 7 жыл бұрын
It was pretty hard to see the baseline black level difference in the video comparison. Especially on the test pattern comparisons, I couldn't even tell a difference between blacks because they were exposed differently. Maybe you can do a follow up where you over expose the optoma so we can see the black level difference, and then also on the other end under expose it so we can see the white level difference. Although probably still different in person, at least I'd be able to tell baseline difference between blacks and then white intensity. Were they actually that close in person? It'd be nice to You could tell the optoma might have higher ANSI contrast just because the white levels are so much greater on an average scene.
@mikebpiper
@mikebpiper 7 жыл бұрын
Michael Liu, we understand it is hard to really see the differences in the video, however there was definitely a difference in person but interestingly enough on some scenes the Sony could do better blacks, while on other scenes they looked very similar. I'm not sure that we will have time to do another video on those two projectors, however we are expecting some of Sony's newest projectors soon and will probably do a video comparison with the uhz65 and one of those projectors soon. Also, take a look at our blog posts, as there are some hi-res still images that might help -Mike Bollinger /TVS Pro
@camarykaren
@camarykaren 7 жыл бұрын
A very detail phenomenal job thanks.
@Tvspecialists
@Tvspecialists 7 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! Glad you enjoyed it!
@efremwhite1608
@efremwhite1608 7 жыл бұрын
The Sony Picture looks brighter optoma darker picture but trun up the lighting a bit it will look just as good
@Tvspecialists
@Tvspecialists 7 жыл бұрын
It’s not quite that simple, the projectors have been calibrated to maximize shadow details as well as white details without washing them out or crushing black detail, simply turning up brightness will cause loss of detail in darker areas or bringing up contrast can wash out white detail. -Mike Bollinger
@avibm948
@avibm948 6 жыл бұрын
important to mention that the Optoma doesn't have a motorized zoom and focus lense shift which is supported by Sony. Not to mention auto lense memory. For me this is a deal breaker. No matter how good the optoma is. I will never buy any projector without an automated zoom and autofcus. Many first time buyers ignore it as they never had a projector before
@tedbollinger3306
@tedbollinger3306 6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, the Sony also has 3D capability and low latency mode for serious gaming. It all depends on your needs and situation. You may want to see the charts and comparisons at www.tvspecialists.com/optoma-uhd65-projector-comparison-sony-vpl-vw365es/ for more detail.
@jimcameron1234
@jimcameron1234 7 жыл бұрын
TVSPro. the image of UHZ65 must me much brighter (3000 vs 2000 lumen) than SONY! but in this video i cant see much different why?
@mikebpiper
@mikebpiper 7 жыл бұрын
Jim Cameron great question first of all you kind of have to take brightness ratings with a grain of salt some manufacturers such as Sony tend to be very conservative in their brightness ratings while other manufacturers sometimes we wonder how they get their brightness ratings. In this case although the Optoma is actually brighter than the Sony, because of the way our eyes see, a 3000 Lumen brightness compared to a 2000 Lumen brightness with all other things being equal would not look significantly brighter to the eye in most cases. For example a projector that is double the brightness so for example 6000 lumens vs. 3000 lumens does not look twice as bright. With that said in person it was a more noticeable difference then it appears in the video. Second we were actually able to get the Optoma uhd65 looking brighter than it did in the video afterwards with a few additional adjustments that we found, and we were already very familiar with the Sony as we'd had it for quite some time and had the opportunity to get it looking as good as it possibly could. -Mike Bollinger/TVS Pro
@Tvspecialists
@Tvspecialists 7 жыл бұрын
Jim - you may also want to look at the blog post on our site if you haven't. It has high-res still images which may give you additional insight that the video has a hard time conveying. The blog article can be found here: www.tvspecialists.com/optoma-uhz65-projector-comparison-vs-sony-vpl-vw365es/
@jimcameron1234
@jimcameron1234 7 жыл бұрын
TVS Pro thanks I visit your site already yesterday, i own since 2013 VW1000 (CINEMIKE TUNING version) and to my eyes the nativ picture quality of DLP 4k is as sharp as 4k nativ SONY incl. its REALITY CREATION wow and even more sharpness than my CINEMIKE JVC X7000 (have 2) for my INFITEC/DOLBY 3D system at my homecinema because of DLP 4K 4.000.000 pixels panel vs. JVC e-shift 2 mio panel, i am planning to buy UHZ65 only for 4k UHD/HDR and hope because of LASER for deeper black + more nativ contrast than my VW1000, my 16:9 mult elect..screen size in diagonal is about 138 inch wich is 3 meter width i hope i will get a realy bright HDR picture with UHZ65 its 3000 lumen
@mikebpiper
@mikebpiper 7 жыл бұрын
I think you will be very happy with the UHZ65, especially with HDR, it really shines. In our showroom we have a Stewart masking screen that will open to 130" 2.35:1 screen and we have filled the image (with excess going off the screen) and it looked really good, that is about a 119" width, which should be about the same as your screen. -Mike Bollinger/ TVS Pro
@jimcameron1234
@jimcameron1234 7 жыл бұрын
MIKE BOLLINGER thanks for your feedback, so the 119 inch width HDR image with UHZ65 is in your opinion bright (LASER output on 100%) enough? my final question about UHZ65, even on 1080p standard BR deeper black level + better nativ contrast than SONY VW1000/1100 (same contrast/black level) wich is far away from my JVC X7000 or any JVC DLA X projector? at first i wanted VW760 (VW885 US) but now i am going for 3000 lumen DLP 4k, UHZ65 coming out next week around december 15th, EURO price in US dollars 5.800$ but over there 4.500$, thanks for your time. cheers from munich germany
@jimcameron1234
@jimcameron1234 7 жыл бұрын
TVSPro. according to the sony site VW365ES is not even 2000 lumen bright only 1500 lumen the half of the brightness of OPTOMA so we have now 3000 vs.1500 lumen so the UHZ should be much brighter than 365ES!
@mikebpiper
@mikebpiper 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Jim, You are correct, Sony rates it as 1,500 lumens. However you have to understand first that Sony is typically very conservative in their rated brightness specs, for example, their rated 1,500 lumens in the VPL-VW365ES outperforms and is visibly brighter than Epson's ProCinema 6040 at full brightness which is rated at 2,500 lumens, and that is not to say that Epson doesn't perform to it's rated output, rather Sony is over performing and is rated very conservatively. So it is really not a stretch to compare this projector to the Optoma UHZ65. The other factor is they are in the same price category, as is the VPL-VW285ES which replaces the VPL-VW365ES. Also check out our blog at www.tvspecialists.com/blog/ for more information and updates on comparisons - Mike Bollinger / TVS Pro
@jimcameron1234
@jimcameron1234 7 жыл бұрын
MIKE BOLLINGER Thanks for quick response
@hangkooshin3170
@hangkooshin3170 7 жыл бұрын
I purchased uhz 65 after this review. I thought optoma uhz65 image is really closed to Sony. But I don't think that now. I have a sharp xv-z 17000. Even though sv-z17000 is only 1080p and less bright than optoma uhz65 the color is much more natural real and no noise . Optoma uhz 65 is very bright (and bright skin tone) and 4k detail is super and long bulb life but other technologies are lower than other companies. Color looks not natural - iit is like cartoon color (in my view) - I tried to set up the images for more than 2 hour but not satisfied. only 4k source has no noise. 1080p or less source have noticeable noise in my eyes. And In Sharp projector I never noticed rainbow effect. But in this projector has Noticeable Rainbow effect. This RE bothers me - if you enjoy dancing or action much - I don't recommend this projector. I searched uhd65 - that has rainbow effect too. I'm going to return the uhz 65 and I will purchase other brand.
@tedbollinger3306
@tedbollinger3306 7 жыл бұрын
It all depends on your settings. Out of the box, the color is way too much and the black levels are not very good. We have found that only a combination of settings get the max out of the blacks and contrast. The color quality comes with basic or professional calibration. When both are set at their optimum we have yet to find a projector that can hold it own with this projector under $5K. Rainbow effect is very good on this projector but yes, there are some people that are very sensitive to it, others cannot see it even if you try and show them, so very individual sensitivities.
@hangkooshin3170
@hangkooshin3170 7 жыл бұрын
Thank You for your Kind detailed answer. - I think you are right as TV specialist. I know my view is personal and subjective. But there is some truth. Maybe I will get better picture later. but main reason to return the projector is RE. I watch mostly dancing- even little every body moving - I can see it.
@johnlonappan7945
@johnlonappan7945 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you , is there anyway we can get the calibration settings you achieved the results please ?
@tedbollinger3306
@tedbollinger3306 7 жыл бұрын
We normally include a 4 page "Optimum UHZ65 Settings Guide" along with a Spears & Munsil basic calibration guide. Since you may already have the projector I would highly recommend this disc and do a basic calibration by following their instructions. You should be able to get the color very close to being accurate and then you can do slight adjustments to your personal preferences.
@tedbollinger3306
@tedbollinger3306 7 жыл бұрын
Full calibration will vary from projector to projector so it really needs to be done on a specific projector. As far as optimum settings we have found a combination of settings that will achieve a very improved black level and much higher contrast and a full fade to total black so technically infinite contrast. We hope to do a full video on this in the future as it is a process and requires interaction with other settings.
@vt733
@vt733 3 жыл бұрын
uhz65 seems to be more color accurate except for the sky :(
@jeffdom123
@jeffdom123 5 жыл бұрын
it looks like the Optima has a more realistic color palate
@oliverplaydj
@oliverplaydj 5 жыл бұрын
Sony best colors
@TheLordstrider
@TheLordstrider 5 жыл бұрын
can't stand the Laser Film grain/ Noise... horrible noise. (every single Laser projector i tested).
6 жыл бұрын
except for blue color (too dark) .... for me optoma wins
@tedbollinger3306
@tedbollinger3306 6 жыл бұрын
Please see the "IMPORTANT" at the description under the video. The dark blue we later learned was due to the camera IR cut filter range and is not what we saw in person. Please see the newer 385ES and the UHZ65 comparison for a more realistic comparison where we used a different camera.
@bloodcarver913
@bloodcarver913 7 жыл бұрын
The Sony is less sharp
@tedbollinger3306
@tedbollinger3306 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, it is, and Sony has just introduced a new series of Projectors with improved lenses so we are very anxious to test. We should have the results of that comparison in the next 3 to 3 weeks. We appreciate your interest.
@justclickin6599
@justclickin6599 6 жыл бұрын
To me the Sony looks very " soap opera " the Optoma looks natural
@tedbollinger3306
@tedbollinger3306 6 жыл бұрын
In person they both have very natural motion depending on which settings you choose. The real surprise is how well the Optoma is able to compete detail wise and on most scenes contrast wise for less cost and with a laser so no real brightness change over time. Here is a newer comparison you may also like: www.tvspecialists.com/vplvw385es-vs-uhz65-projector-comparison-1/ thanks for watching.
@electric8668
@electric8668 7 жыл бұрын
The Optima can now be had for 2500.00
@Tvspecialists
@Tvspecialists 7 жыл бұрын
You're right, in regards to the UHD65, but the UHZ65 (laser version of UHD65) is still at $4499. Official dealers have contracts where they cannot sell or advertise prices below a certain price or they can and may possibly lose their dealership status. So if you are seeing a UHZ65 lower than $4499, as of today, I would be extremely wary as to why.
@gymlat
@gymlat 7 жыл бұрын
Why Sony is over exposed (white's burn'd out.) in still shots ??? I think those dont do proper justice to sony, in this comparison.
@tedbollinger3306
@tedbollinger3306 7 жыл бұрын
Great question, if we expose for highlights on the Sony then the Optoma is underexposed and crushing blacks. In this comparison they are in their closest brightness modes and then compared. If this could be done on an HDR display with out internet compression you might be able to see the full range. You are very observant and on some scenes the Sony is brighter on some the Optoma is brighter, it was very interesting to see.
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