Ora Cat (EV) - It's NOT An MG4 Rival

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The Ora Cat is a new car AND a new brand. It's semi premium (or at least it's aiming to be) so does it pull it off?
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@cloggsy1971
@cloggsy1971 Жыл бұрын
Ora ‘Funky’ Cat… The funny thing is, it is only £13,000 in China. Granted, the Chinese version probably hasn’t all the bells & whistles that the UK version has, but that is one hell of a price hike 😳😬
@briandavies7402
@briandavies7402 Жыл бұрын
Have You ever known anyone turn down a pay rise? same goes with this
@rwang4348
@rwang4348 Жыл бұрын
china goverment offers huge subs to ev from 10 years ago, so it is better to compare its local price with its rivals, like tasla or Mg4 in china, MG4 starts at 13k pound in china, ora cat starts at basically the same...... And the 0-100km version only 22k In China, with impressive 428HP, 4WD......
@fatdoi003
@fatdoi003 Жыл бұрын
Japan's domestic cars are dirt cheap as well.... what's your point?
@cloggsy1971
@cloggsy1971 Жыл бұрын
@@fatdoi003 👆🏻👇🏻👉🏻👈🏻
@fatdoi003
@fatdoi003 Жыл бұрын
@@cloggsy1971 that's right, pointless.... just for the sake of whinging.. or you just can't accept a country making a good product charging similar price to their competitors?
@eddiereed5025
@eddiereed5025 Жыл бұрын
A no goer at that price especially with that battery size
@rbettsx
@rbettsx Жыл бұрын
This sells for about £17-18K in China. Apart from shipping, who's getting the margin?
@SDK2006b
@SDK2006b Жыл бұрын
Adding 10% import duty and 20% VAT ups that a little.
@jonathancullen1337
@jonathancullen1337 Жыл бұрын
The more pertinent question is who's getting the margin for example when a Stellantis BEV is circa 10k more than the equivalent ICE. I suspect MG margin is thin...
@ElectricVehicleMan
@ElectricVehicleMan Жыл бұрын
Importer probably
@stevenjones916
@stevenjones916 Жыл бұрын
@@SDK2006b Not £15,000 though 😂😂😂
@SDK2006b
@SDK2006b Жыл бұрын
@@stevenjones916 - I think it’s wrong to assume that a car selling in China should be the same price in the UK. Should the wages in the UK be the same as China too 🤔😝 The two countries operate on a completely different social and finance level. Car prices (any asset prices) are set based on what the producer can sell them, in the quantities they want. Prices are not set on the value of the sum of the parts !
@briangriffiths114
@briangriffiths114 Жыл бұрын
I like the Cat's appearance because it bucks the current trend towards angular cars. Nice paint job on the launch model and smart looking interior.
@InBodWeTrust
@InBodWeTrust Жыл бұрын
IMHO it has a look only a mother could love 🤷‍♂
@briangriffiths114
@briangriffiths114 Жыл бұрын
@@InBodWeTrust I agree that beauty is very much in the eye of the beholder!
@ellisrochlin2267
@ellisrochlin2267 Жыл бұрын
@@InBodWeTrust Your sooo right , its a chinese mother With less toys £ 13 k IS START PRICE IN CHINA
@ademcguinness8132
@ademcguinness8132 Жыл бұрын
Hey EVM, love the channel and this review. A couple of issues, the elephant in the room is price, this car is far too expensive for a "second car" which is not sufficiently versatile & family sized. It has a confused and mixed USP, a very poor value proposition, its not in the value segment but not good enough, in terms of Sharp looking or equipped (small battery 48kW ?) nor badge /. brand desire to be premium offering and there in lies the rub. Its an Expensive middle ground offering from an unknown Chinese brand. The rear is (in my opinion) its worst angle, when your only plus point is its nicer than a Nissan Leaf, that is not a design achievement to crow about. I tend to also agree the 18" alloys are so awful. Your initial opening comments are in fact correct, but perhaps for not the reason you stated, it is NOT an MG4 competitor, no where close in terms of a clear segment it is aiming to conquer (e.g. the value proposition) The looks are obviously a very personal aspect but its not "premium". So its not a value proposition nor a premium vehicle which puts it in no-mans land. An "average" EV with a splash of design flair (the front only). The only things you state is that its a "meh" car...does nothing badly, and nothing really well. It will appeal to "non car" people who like a specific design and colour combo. This is such a shame as it held so much promise, but ultimately I feel it is the wrong car for the wrong market at the wrong price. "You will not see many on the road"....such an understatement :)
@ElectricVehicleMan
@ElectricVehicleMan Жыл бұрын
People buy minis, Honda EV’s etc as second cars. They’re too expensive for you and I, but not for many others.
@andymccabe6712
@andymccabe6712 Жыл бұрын
@@ElectricVehicleMan yeah! - the Honda E is eye-wateringly pricey for what it gives you-but if you like it and can afford it...the price is irrelevant! ... Not everyone needs to care how much electricity has gone up!! The 'Cat' looks like a great car, and I'm sure it will shift plenty of units....
@andymccabe6712
@andymccabe6712 Жыл бұрын
Just think about this, Ade..... 'non car people' is MOST OF US.....!!!
@SNORKYMEDIA
@SNORKYMEDIA Жыл бұрын
So it costs more than an MG4, but has worse range, much worse charging and worse boot space, but it is "funky" and has a nicer interior......think this might be a bit of a harder sell than ORA expect in the UK...
@andymccabe6712
@andymccabe6712 Жыл бұрын
You don't SERIOUSLY think people make sensible, rational, practical decisions when buying a CAR, do you....!?!?. We buy what we LIKE!!! ... always have...
@SNORKYMEDIA
@SNORKYMEDIA Жыл бұрын
@@andymccabe6712 you might not but I bloody do...
@arnoldtabor3767
@arnoldtabor3767 Жыл бұрын
It's going up against Fiat and Mini and Honda and the Corsa E and the E208 ... It's not going to win
@grahamlockley4435
@grahamlockley4435 Жыл бұрын
The biggest bonus for me is that it isnt as hideous as an MG
@seanlee3863
@seanlee3863 Жыл бұрын
Ora is clearly marketed towards young females likes the vw beetle. Overall young girls don't care about all that specs, they just care about how it looks and what it makes them feel
@rcajavus8141
@rcajavus8141 Жыл бұрын
apparently its a lot cheaper in china, below 20k euro - so where did 15k euro go, tariffs?
@rbdogwood
@rbdogwood Жыл бұрын
The indicators have a light shove for 3 flashes, harder for longer. So if you press again for stop, it understands it as 'do another 3 flashes'.
@apierc1
@apierc1 Жыл бұрын
Yup, user error
@trevorberridge6079
@trevorberridge6079 Жыл бұрын
Glad someone mentioned that. I was thinking, "WTF is he doing with that indicator?".
@gregb1599
@gregb1599 Жыл бұрын
It is a little tricky to operate, but like everything you will get used to it
@NormanF62
@NormanF62 Жыл бұрын
If you’re torn between a Porsche and a Mini, Ora has got you covered with the Funky Cat. The Chinese are aiming square for the premium car segment owned by VW and BMW. Whether they succeed, only time will tell. Looks like a fun car to drive!
@ellisrochlin2267
@ellisrochlin2267 Жыл бұрын
HAVE FUN , BUY ONE and start a funky cat owners club
@FallenAngel53
@FallenAngel53 10 ай бұрын
MG4 is a fun car to drive 👍
@davidstuart4915
@davidstuart4915 Жыл бұрын
theyve killed it stone dead by doubling the price in a global market, just for the Brits...
@Brian-om2hh
@Brian-om2hh Жыл бұрын
British buyers sometimes tend to shy away from new unproven brands. MG seem to have got away with it, but once a glut of Chinese cars begin appearing, buyers may exercise more caution.....
@NimbusCumulus
@NimbusCumulus Жыл бұрын
Agreed. In China it’s a nice looking EV with a decent interior at a reasonable price. But they are charging far too much here in the UK.
@andrewkirk3159
@andrewkirk3159 Жыл бұрын
Dead Cat.
@stevenjones916
@stevenjones916 Жыл бұрын
@@NimbusCumulus $15,000 USD in China.
@ericpisch2732
@ericpisch2732 Жыл бұрын
I want a car called a funky cat
@GHOOGLEMALE
@GHOOGLEMALE Жыл бұрын
No, no no no - Its a £18-22k car with nice seats. Elephant in the room here is Dealers, Parts availability and probably most of all - Residual values. No doubt Chinese cars will eventually dent the market as Japanese did in the late 20th century. But they had to buy their way into the market, lots of kit for little money - Until they became properly established. This at a price higher than an ID3, noisier, with less range, smaller battery, slower charging, smaller boot and zero credibility in the UK marketplace is a non starter. £22k tops might buy it a place with gamblers.
@chrispenn715
@chrispenn715 Жыл бұрын
Yep. Agree with you. Charging and range are not good enough for the price
@haoruchen4216
@haoruchen4216 4 ай бұрын
EV needs no service. It’s like a different animal. It’s like a e-bike or washing machine. Worry free.
@GHOOGLEMALE
@GHOOGLEMALE 4 ай бұрын
@@haoruchen4216 Yes it is when its working properly, but when it isnt - where do you take it. Same for accident damage, where does it go and who do they get the parts from. Even EV's are serviced for brakes, suspension, steering components eventually
@gap9992
@gap9992 Жыл бұрын
Too big for a city car, too small for a family car, range too short for an only car, What's the opposite of a Goldilocks product ? Heritage borrowed from various brands and stitched together like Frankenstein's monster. Porsche front and Nissan Leaf rear - nice! I think it's ugly but others will love it) Not that quick, Tech no better than average Dealer network? maintenance? Warranty support?? "Let's pitch it as a premium (aka over-priced) brand, give it a stupid name and see what happens, 30% of the Honda E market ain't that many cars ! lol
@stepheng8779
@stepheng8779 Жыл бұрын
Nice car but they've misread the market at that price.
@michaeledwards8079
@michaeledwards8079 Жыл бұрын
It is not an MG4 rival, the MG is far better looking and would be my choice
@martf8233
@martf8233 5 ай бұрын
Gets to show how relative good looks are. This car has won me over the MG precisely for the looks reasons, even if the MG is slightly better in what you get for your money. I like my car with organically curved shapes, not a geometric box. So the current fashion is just unfortunate for me. Moreover, amongst the majority of boxes on wheels these days, the MG is probably the ugliest car I've ever seen. There you go. Takes all kinds of people to make the world. 😊
@haoruchen4216
@haoruchen4216 4 ай бұрын
I hate the MG4 rear it’s offensive to me visually 😂😂😂 I love the curvy front and smart rear just brilliant. It’s the new bug ev it will have its place in auto history. Dude mark my words
@haoruchen4216
@haoruchen4216 4 ай бұрын
Of course I love all three ORA.
@tonychallinor6721
@tonychallinor6721 Жыл бұрын
If they hadn't put the price up so much we were going to get one, and nickname it Rita
@davidstuart4915
@davidstuart4915 Жыл бұрын
Its a stealth car....steals your money...if your foolish enough to pay grossly inflated UK pricing Are we back to personal imports?
@stephenowens5375
@stephenowens5375 Жыл бұрын
Yup, was waiting for this in UK but not at silly prices. Decided to stick with 2 replacement but economical petrol cars as I just can't justify these crazy prices considering I don't think there's much of a running cost saving if any at all.
@paulcolu
@paulcolu Жыл бұрын
Your right it’s certainly not an MG4 rival in anyway
@grahamlockley4435
@grahamlockley4435 Жыл бұрын
No it actually looks ok rather than 'Designed by Aldi' :)
@timaustin2000
@timaustin2000 Жыл бұрын
It's just too expensive. Which is a shame as there is a lot to like about it! But 170-190 miles, realistically, and just over 60kw rapid charging? That's not in the technical ballpark of cars at that price or, indeed, many cars cheaper than it. At £25k I'd have chewed their arms off for one.
@pgarrish
@pgarrish Жыл бұрын
Its refreshing that GWM, Hyundai, Citroen are not churning out endless boring SUVs in different sizes. I hope it spurs the other manufacturers to start showing some imagination
@martinwray7001
@martinwray7001 Жыл бұрын
Is it me, or is the ORA badge on the back not central? It looks like the L fell off, but that said, I'm not going to Google oral cat. Nice video as always.
@r33gts
@r33gts Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@andrewdyson4255
@andrewdyson4255 Жыл бұрын
I like it, but I don’t think it’s good value of money. There are better ones out there for the money. I’d have a DS3 over that
@fsr170409
@fsr170409 Жыл бұрын
Typical retailers, they give you an estimated price then realize that we're silly enough to pay premium prices in the UK.I think it's more of a 25k-26k car,having said that it's a great looking car reminds me of the Nissan Figaro interior.Thanks once again for a great honest opinion 👍
@fanfeck2844
@fanfeck2844 Жыл бұрын
Is it our import duty?
@davidstuart4915
@davidstuart4915 Жыл бұрын
Not worth £25k, with sub 200mile range in 2023 and unknown parentage / Chinese origin, questionable looks, stupid name, it needs to be sub £20k to find a niche...as we shall no doubt see
@davidstuart4915
@davidstuart4915 Жыл бұрын
@@fanfeck2844 err, no
@marvinsamuels1237
@marvinsamuels1237 Жыл бұрын
@@davidstuart4915 I think the fact there are people out there that will pay the asking price, means we will not see them priced as low as £20k. As for the questionable parentage; Hyundai and Kia are good examples of brands new to Europe and the UK, slowly improving their image and increasing sales to become a common sight on our roads.
@TheDripSpotter
@TheDripSpotter Жыл бұрын
@@marvinsamuels1237 But in those Makes You have a great marketing tool it’s called a choice- big mistake.
@Clampett01
@Clampett01 Жыл бұрын
Always loved your no frills plain speaking approach reviews. If I could be so brazen to suggest an enhancement. I find myself being distracted and trying to come up with practical suggestions to help with your strange wardrobe choices. I hope you don't take offence. Great review. Colin
@Hawks1980
@Hawks1980 Жыл бұрын
If this had been £25k then I would have said this will fly out of showrooms for it's looks alone which will appeal to people who like they styling of Fiat 500's/Mini's/Jukes etc, but just don't see that many people paying £7k more for a chinese brand they have never heard of over an MG4. If you can spend £32k on a small car you're looking at a much more established brand in my view...Renault Zoe, Fiat 500 etc
@eldridgep2
@eldridgep2 Жыл бұрын
Nice enough car but the price is too high was originally touted around the £25k mark at £32k it'd be a no from me.
@Brian-om2hh
@Brian-om2hh Жыл бұрын
At £32k you're in used 12 to 18 month old Kia eNiro, Soul, VW ID3 and Hyundai Kona territory........ All solid proven EV's.
@fanfeck2844
@fanfeck2844 Жыл бұрын
I’m not so sure we are brand snobs anymore. Most of us will go for good quality and price over badge. When I was young, no one would be seen dead in a Kia/ Hyundai or Skoda. My only worry with this brand would be dealer backup and parts in the longer term
@andymccabe6712
@andymccabe6712 Жыл бұрын
The point you're possibly alluding to is that, unlike the bad old days of the 80s there really aren't any shite cars anymore - everything is basically, well designed and built.....!
@Brian-om2hh
@Brian-om2hh Жыл бұрын
Spot on. Rather ironic that you often find superior quality in a Skoda these days. They frequently have the edge in build quality and finish over VW now..... I'd take a Skoda every time over a VW. In fact I have, four times.....
@fanfeck2844
@fanfeck2844 Жыл бұрын
@@Brian-om2hh yes, and my point was, the three brands I mentioned were never that bad, it’s just we had a lot more badge snobbery back then. Even with tech, I’m seeing more of the cool kids forgoing the brands, and buying cheap value for money phones, as they are aware most of these expensive brands are manufactured in Far Eastern sweatshops
@bordersw1239
@bordersw1239 Жыл бұрын
Exactly , dealer back up, availability of parts and the training those mechanics receive is what’s most important for a new car.
@fanfeck2844
@fanfeck2844 Жыл бұрын
@@dynevor6327 I don’t think you could ever describe MG an an aspirational badge for brand snobs. The Chinese bought the company and stuck with the name
@ALWH1314
@ALWH1314 Жыл бұрын
Well, the demographics ORA targets is young urban female which is reflected in styling, color, performance and safety. There are some specific details including slightly lower door handle position, big console pocket for cosmetic bag, the little pocket next to driver is perfect for lipsticks, big visor mirror, facial recognition auto start so hand free to hold purse, alert from monitor when driver focuses putting on eye shadow instead of road, the entrance has no sharp edge that may catch stocking, high roof for tight skirt to get in and out easy, etc. Did notice a voice control improvement needed, in US we say roll down the window and I noticed a few British testers said put the window down and ORA only understood roll down and not put down.
@georgedaville4662
@georgedaville4662 Жыл бұрын
Very fair and balanced review. This is what I would define as a “cute” electric car. Price is critical for IK market entry. Quoted Chinese prices bear no resemblance to what price we have to pay in rip-off Britain. Once Nissan does a Honda we will have no UK Electric car Manufacturing capability and will be at the mercy of world markets🤔
@onlineo2263
@onlineo2263 Жыл бұрын
I like the car a lot... But it is the same size as an id3, with half the boot, 95% of the price and 70% of the range! I can't make that work, maybe the long range version would make us interested in a car with no boot!
@gregpeirce6121
@gregpeirce6121 Жыл бұрын
I like it, have seen a number of reviews from Bjorn and was looking forward to it, but not at this price and for the small battery plus where has the sunroof gone! I think I'll wait for the Tesla small when it arrives.
@SteYoung
@SteYoung Жыл бұрын
A premium car this size should be £40k to £50k?????? Really??. That motor shouldnt be a whiff over £21k . I cant believe this is on its way to £35k. Goodness me. EV inflation is something else! (heres looking at you too Volvo EX90! 🤪)
@andymccabe6712
@andymccabe6712 Жыл бұрын
Isn't it naive in the extreme to talk about what cars 'should' cost.....!?
@SteYoung
@SteYoung Жыл бұрын
@@andymccabe6712 No.
@ElectricCarAustralia
@ElectricCarAustralia Жыл бұрын
Good review. Interested to see how this sells in Australia given the style of vehicle, unknown brand and dealership parts and maintenance history. Agree with another viewer, the price is significantly above what they sell for in China which again will be a hard sell. Specs might be higher but the basic chassis, quality, paint etc. will be same as Chinese model so price appears on the high side. Time will tell 👍
@hksaxophone5914
@hksaxophone5914 Жыл бұрын
this car actually shares lots of parts with the upcoming mini cooper bev ver..(will be released next yr). so shouldnt be hard to find parts n maintenance..
@marklola12
@marklola12 10 ай бұрын
the app is fantastic you can do more on it than most and you can even turn the temp up and down when precondition where alot you have only 1 set temp
@pipersall6761
@pipersall6761 Жыл бұрын
Thats a great car. Beautiful and a wonderful size for most people who need an efficient car.
@robsmith1a
@robsmith1a Жыл бұрын
I imagine a 5 year old one will be a great buy. I suspect there won't be that many on the roads though. MG are attracting buyers because there's nothing else offering the same thing at the same price. This is quite a risk for anyone shelling out cash. I guess if you are leasing as a company car driver it may be ok because you aren't taking that risk.
@maureenandjohnwhite6228
@maureenandjohnwhite6228 Жыл бұрын
Those indicators would do my head in!! Why would anyone buy this over the MG4???
@FallenAngel53
@FallenAngel53 10 ай бұрын
I couldn’t decide for ages wether to get one of these, a BYD atto or an MG4.
@alexmckenna1171
@alexmckenna1171 Жыл бұрын
It's beautiful. I might even learn to drive now- although I'm 73 now, so maybe it's too late :-)
@davidstuart4915
@davidstuart4915 Жыл бұрын
if u have the money - go get an 'automatic car' licence - EVs are semply 'press and go' u only have to get used to pointing it in the right direction - self preservation will soon teach u when to brake - EVs even help u with that :) U will love the independence and countryside they give u access to :)
@davidspendlove5900
@davidspendlove5900 Жыл бұрын
Not long before you don’t have to actually drive the car at all.
@Dreadpirateflappy
@Dreadpirateflappy Жыл бұрын
@@davidspendlove5900 people have been saying that for about 30 years... My dad said that when Total recall came out during the Johnny cab scene.
@Dreadpirateflappy
@Dreadpirateflappy Жыл бұрын
I don;t understand why other reviewers keep claiming it's on par with the MG4, it;s more expensive, smaller and is far less practical as an EV. also we get ripped off in the UK massively considering how cheap it is in China.
@CJMVector321190
@CJMVector321190 Жыл бұрын
Would be interested to see the charge curve, most have peak charge but over only 15-25% of the range. So a flat curve means it would charge ok.
@kentonian
@kentonian Жыл бұрын
Does it know if you have covid and then lock you inside for a week?
@michaelheadley2041
@michaelheadley2041 Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣
@Brian-om2hh
@Brian-om2hh Жыл бұрын
Given the reappearance of covid cases in China, it may come with a dose of covid in the glovebox, or possibly via a downloadable app or something......
@andymccabe6712
@andymccabe6712 Жыл бұрын
D'you know - that was nearly funny...... ! Nearly...
@honesty_-no9he
@honesty_-no9he Жыл бұрын
GWM has made some errors in their marketing here. The CATS are a series of different cars in China. Also leasing companies in UK seem to only have the basic entry level version of this car. UK should have gotten the larger battery version but I suspect that UK government has hit them hard with import taxes. The ten minute PM Truss declared China as an official enemy and the current government is still full of such nutters. They should have launched the entire selection at once to show the broader concept of the ORA CAT cars. The most exciting of which is the ORA PUNK CAT (real retro to the future and more premium finish) and what is called ORA LIGHTNING in China, appears to be called Grand Cat in Thailand and has been implied to be called NEXT CAT in The West. Lightning was fine it is an affordable sports-sedan, after UK Gov it'll be semi-affordable. There is also for the ladies BALLET CAT in China. UK claims to have a pro EV policy but the transition can only happen if cars that begin affordable are allowed to land affordable.
@markcornwall8132
@markcornwall8132 Жыл бұрын
My wife quite liked this and looked on their website. Nearest dealer is over 200 miles away from us !!
@neverquit2470
@neverquit2470 Жыл бұрын
I like your way to speak about cars...you are so passionate 🤗
@FallenAngel53
@FallenAngel53 10 ай бұрын
6:15 I prefer the look inside of ORA to MG 4 tho 👍 nice . the rotary dial 9:01 is identical to MG4s.
@ericpisch2732
@ericpisch2732 Жыл бұрын
Love the jonny smith notebook
@theguv1521
@theguv1521 11 ай бұрын
I can't believe the UK price. Has it dropped in the 11 months since this video was made? We are in New Zealand and a friend purchased one, same model and specs, last Saturday for $NZ 37,000 that is £18,000 There is a soon to be scrapped, by our new incoming government, rebate of $NZ 7,000. So with out that $NZ 44,000 or £21,000 going forward.
@OraEtLabora0
@OraEtLabora0 Жыл бұрын
🤔3:12 are you going for "shorter Johnny Smith" vibe, with that notebook? 😉
@tooflesstesla
@tooflesstesla Жыл бұрын
Good review. Although I did initially think the Ora Cat would have been targeted toward the cheaper end of the market. Storage space is horrendous and there should at least be a frunk! 😅
@honesty_-no9he
@honesty_-no9he Жыл бұрын
The bigger battery is the one to go for. As for charging speed the larger battery will likely be 90kW. In China the affordable cars tend to have 60kW to 90kW charging but a flat charging curve. The generous warranty is likely due to the LFP battery.
@atreyuidaho
@atreyuidaho Жыл бұрын
Wait for the new DS3 E-Tense! It has (and had in fact) nothing to do with the C3!
@stevenjones916
@stevenjones916 Жыл бұрын
Damn right its not a rival to MG4. It is front wheel drive, has a poor range, pathetic charging speed, a tiny boot and the most annoying indicators on the market.
@dcvariousvids8082
@dcvariousvids8082 Жыл бұрын
Fiat 500 or Zoe but with better access and a nicer larger interior and I kind of lik the out side.
@ericbrown8916
@ericbrown8916 11 ай бұрын
Honestly they are priced to prevent accusations of product dumping. Plus they need the cash reserves to help cover the costs of all food imports China needs.
@robtyman4281
@robtyman4281 Жыл бұрын
They're targeting both the Mini, and the Fiat 500 ranges. Not sure why you thought it was a rival to MG4? The front looks very similar to a mini, while the rear end looks like the larger of the 500 range.
@ElectricVehicleMan
@ElectricVehicleMan Жыл бұрын
Because everyone since it was announced has been saying that. It’s a Chinese and at the lower end of the price bracket. Or was.
@Dreadpirateflappy
@Dreadpirateflappy Жыл бұрын
Because every single reviewer is comparing them and claiming they are rivals... when they really aren't
@graemecollin
@graemecollin Жыл бұрын
As GWM (Ora's parent company) are the new designers and builders (and soon to be owners of the marque???) of all future electric Minis, don't be surprised if you're looking at the future of the Mini ...
@R08Tam
@R08Tam Жыл бұрын
I love the style of this car, it looks really classy. It's not practical for my camping lifestyle, hence I drive an MG5. But I really like the vibe. Oh, and I've never been a badge snob or fallen for the myth of German build quality.
@Kosh42EFG
@Kosh42EFG Жыл бұрын
At £25k it'd sell in bucket loads. At that price, no a little too much.
@HT-io1eg
@HT-io1eg Жыл бұрын
Beetle/mini thing from the front
@clasqm
@clasqm Жыл бұрын
Cool little baby Porsche in front, welded to a Leaf rear end. I'll hold out for the Punk Cat.
@Rapscallion2009
@Rapscallion2009 Жыл бұрын
I think they've blown it with the pricing. Over 30k for this totally unknown Chinese brand? - no. Too close in price to leaf, ID3 and so on. A year ago when they were first mooted they were going to be 20k-£30k. *Unless* this is the top-of-the-line launch edition and the cheaper ones come out soon, this'll sink without trace.
@rogerbradley5213
@rogerbradley5213 Жыл бұрын
I like the looks but the range for the price is disappointing.
@runnerball9123
@runnerball9123 Жыл бұрын
Lol. They can aim for what they like but it’s how the public perceive it that counts and unfortunately for them it will be perceived as a fairly expensive car from an unknown Chinese brand with a slightly iffy name. I think they have bumped up the price as they know they can and dreamt up a ‘we are a premium brand’ to try and justify it. And to say they are not in competition with MG is nonsense as I am in the market for a car in this price range and in my mind they are and they have lost already.
@aliruane
@aliruane Жыл бұрын
Another 30 grand ‘premium’ car. No ta. MG are the only company going in the right direction
@TassieEV
@TassieEV Жыл бұрын
Well after watching your other video about taxes coming on in 2025 this car is excluded from the Luxury Car Tax then as it's under the 40k mark. The charging could definitely be better at 65kW that is not great the MG ZS & BYD Atto3 are both higher with the Atto3 at 90kW peak as witnessed by owners.
@billbow7757
@billbow7757 Жыл бұрын
Not a fan and too expensive.
@senortrowell
@senortrowell Жыл бұрын
Seems funky
@fuqingshen
@fuqingshen Жыл бұрын
The quality of Chinese cars has come a long way. A budget Toyota assembled in South East Asia will never make it to this level. It is amazing how the Chinese hire the best designers and engineers to bring their cars to another level. GAC Motor's Head of Quality came from Honda and their Head of Design came from Mercedes. Chinese cars, esp the EVs are going to take over the world's automotive market.
@sevesellors2831
@sevesellors2831 Жыл бұрын
Great review best yet on this car. Love the design and interior. Wish the price was lower but it is competitive against most rivals. The question is will Renault withe 5 and VW with ID2 come in at sub £25,000 as indicated or is that click bait. Interesting that most. Chinese cars including BYD are not cheap so the big Chinese invasion might under cut the Europeans but they will go for a healthy profit. So are electricccars going to stay at £30,000 and above?
@MrGMawson2438
@MrGMawson2438 Жыл бұрын
Voice control would be the best for everything. Having to look away from the screen for 2 seconds could be danger
@jsptravels
@jsptravels 6 ай бұрын
Quite a lot less than an MG4 to lease at the moment, sub-£200 is easy to find if you look around
@mrdot1126
@mrdot1126 Жыл бұрын
you could class it as a second car, if its a car for £13-£14K like in china..
@ellisrochlin2267
@ellisrochlin2267 Жыл бұрын
like many ev designs its quite bland on sides and rear , in fact a bit UGLY , it reminds me a of a old suzuki swift . Headlights with the indicators daft GIMIC (why fit doors in windows kinda thing ) , the boot is A DRAWBACK far to SMALL for size or bulk of car , at £ 32 k plus the entry model in UK doesnt get 200 miles a on full charge . Come winter it will doing sub 150 on a full charge. Would have been be better to enter the UK mkt stripped down (as in the base chinese model) coming in at sub £17- 20 k sterling . THESE AT 32 K STERLING PLUS WILL BE A RARE SIGHT .ON UK roads . At present UK has over 9 other brands sporting a ev model , in the price range. funky cat LOL
@andymccabe6712
@andymccabe6712 Жыл бұрын
.. It DOES look a bit 'old Leaf' at the back... but praise the Lord those HIDEOUS Leaf rear lights are absent....! I, completely irrationally, loath and detest those lights.....
@davidmccarthy6061
@davidmccarthy6061 Жыл бұрын
Would like to get one in the US.
@laneo
@laneo Жыл бұрын
Sweet.
@Sam-tx1tn
@Sam-tx1tn Жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t be seen dead in that to be honest. Looking forward to the ioniq 6 review.
@Dreadpirateflappy
@Dreadpirateflappy Жыл бұрын
not really comparable cars... one is a small hatchback, the other is £14,000 more and is a large saloon. :/
@tonybennett638
@tonybennett638 Жыл бұрын
MG 4 not a killer.
@timoliver8940
@timoliver8940 Жыл бұрын
This is the company, Great Wall, that BMW is farming out production of the next generation Mini to so I dread to think what the price of the next Mini will be if Great Wall/ Ora can get away with asking £32000 for that car.
@stevenjones916
@stevenjones916 Жыл бұрын
BMW own 50% of GWM.
@czdeepblueczdeepblue660
@czdeepblueczdeepblue660 Жыл бұрын
@@stevenjones916 no.GWM own 50% of mini ev
@stevenjones916
@stevenjones916 Жыл бұрын
$15,000 USD in China.
@SDK2006b
@SDK2006b Жыл бұрын
Move to China then 😝 You’ll also find the wages are significantly less too !
@micheleheynes4298
@micheleheynes4298 Жыл бұрын
Please tell me how you owned two Nissan Leafs from 2015 till 2000, you went to the from the past deeper. Shouldn't it be 2020, isn't that when you switched to the Tesla
@hurbrowns5397
@hurbrowns5397 Жыл бұрын
The looks is nice but in specs the other cars wins. I think someone will but these for the reason it looks cute and nice.
@bikeman123
@bikeman123 Жыл бұрын
2:08 how can you possibly mislay a key that large?
@elliotedge4307
@elliotedge4307 Жыл бұрын
Like it but hate the wheels
@michaelhelliwell5454
@michaelhelliwell5454 Жыл бұрын
Hi what’s your octopus referral code I might us it next year
@Chris-mh3vf
@Chris-mh3vf Жыл бұрын
I quite like it but it’s shape is what mrs 810 would describe as jelly mould, a most damming description and at 32k nope
@MrSunnyBhoy
@MrSunnyBhoy Жыл бұрын
Very funky looking car 👍🏾
@billdobbins484
@billdobbins484 Жыл бұрын
As usual rip off Britain compared with the price in other countries we are being taken for a ride.
@FallenAngel53
@FallenAngel53 10 ай бұрын
£32 K 😮😮 v £26 k for MG4 🤔
@waterpowerspaniels
@waterpowerspaniels Жыл бұрын
I imagine Porche lawyers will be in touch reference copy-rite over front end
@Brian-om2hh
@Brian-om2hh Жыл бұрын
I doubt it'll do them much good. Numerous car companies have tried to take Chinese car companies to court for copying their designs and features. The Chinese court almost always comes down in favour of the home company.....
@kamsunleong6648
@kamsunleong6648 Жыл бұрын
Designed by former Porsche designer Emanuel Derta. So he's copying his own designs.
@Elaba_
@Elaba_ Жыл бұрын
Their next new model will be the Goofy.
@Jdmess9
@Jdmess9 3 ай бұрын
Lease price on these is ridiculously cheap at the minute
@edc1569
@edc1569 Жыл бұрын
There is nothing premium about this
@derekbilton-heenan854
@derekbilton-heenan854 Жыл бұрын
I'm not keen on the camera on the inside watching you.
@ElectricVehicleMan
@ElectricVehicleMan Жыл бұрын
Teslas are covered in them. Inside too. Your phone prob does facial recognition too.
@stum8374
@stum8374 Жыл бұрын
Andy we need cheaper ev's,32k their taken the michael expecially it's 13k in china !!!
@ElectricVehicleMan
@ElectricVehicleMan Жыл бұрын
Fiesta starts at £18.5k now. Things have gone up a lot.
@johnmorris1122
@johnmorris1122 Жыл бұрын
looks like a 911 from the front😂
@MrGMawson2438
@MrGMawson2438 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking that 4:15
@bafattvahetere
@bafattvahetere Жыл бұрын
ORA Lightning/003/Next whatever, is more interesting, but probably priced to the moon.
@onesky8647
@onesky8647 Жыл бұрын
At least your mike worked... :)
@MrGMawson2438
@MrGMawson2438 Жыл бұрын
Great video mate
@edc1569
@edc1569 Жыл бұрын
You got to be nuts
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