Orange Pi Zero 2: Tiny, low-cost, quad core SBC

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ExplainingComputers

ExplainingComputers

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@Sc0rphionx
@Sc0rphionx 3 жыл бұрын
Just Remember that your Content is Awesome... keep creating more. You are the robot I'm rooting for in this life.
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much 😀
@monotheisticmortal5122
@monotheisticmortal5122 3 жыл бұрын
I haven't used an Orange Pi in ages, however I'm very much glad to see that newer versions have been released!
@ctbinary42
@ctbinary42 3 жыл бұрын
Nice to see Mr Scissors back! My favorite part of Sundays
@6581punk
@6581punk 3 жыл бұрын
He doesn't get enough work, so was a little out of practice today and it showed.
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 3 жыл бұрын
He always returns . . .
@hmsdefiant
@hmsdefiant 3 жыл бұрын
He always makes the final cut with the Davinci software.
@boink800
@boink800 3 жыл бұрын
@@ExplainingComputers Does he have a very broad cockney accent?
@mohamedmimonasbai8563
@mohamedmimonasbai8563 3 жыл бұрын
🤯
@davidbullard1671
@davidbullard1671 2 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy his channel. Especially the " here we are, there we are ". Lol, it never gets old. I have this board for emulation and with proper cooling and a fan, it can become a little beast.
@bubo1
@bubo1 3 жыл бұрын
Good to know that the official British Standard number of days which defines "very" has been established as seven.
@StayHungry41
@StayHungry41 3 жыл бұрын
17-year-old me with his PIII 700mhz and 512mb of RAM would lose his mind if he knew how far technology was going to advance.
@CenturionKZ
@CenturionKZ 3 жыл бұрын
In 2002 I still used Pentium I 166mhz with 24mb, this little computer would blown my mind
@russellhiscock8426
@russellhiscock8426 3 жыл бұрын
My 6502 with 1k memory...
@HaveYouTriedGuillotines
@HaveYouTriedGuillotines 3 жыл бұрын
I had a second hand Tandy and a Mac Plus in the mid 90s. The Mac Plus was probably the more powerful machine, fully populated with 4 megs of RAM, with an 8 MHz 68000 CPU. The mini PC that runs stuff like pi-hole on my network right now has a quad core intel chip that runs fanless in the GHz, and 8 gigs of RAM on a single stick. The smart phone most people have in their pocket is many magnitudes more powerful than everything NASA had put together at the time when we sent people to the moon. People play cruddy facebook games on a tiny device that can put corporate super computers from the 80s to shame. We put math coprocessors in modern CPUs that can do work that would have required entire rooms filled with machinery at one point, and we list them as an insignificant detail in the footnotes of the spec sheets. You watch cat videos on something the Pentagon would have been jealous of at one point.
@paulmichaelfreedman8334
@paulmichaelfreedman8334 3 жыл бұрын
13 year old me with his commodore 64 in 1984....We started out with single board computers as serious machines, now we're back to SBCs (raspberry pi etc) as tinker toys and 1,000 times more powerful.
@alexmcd378
@alexmcd378 3 жыл бұрын
More mind blow. Deep Blue was the first super computer to beat a world champion at chess. It could manage just under 12 gflops in speed. The pi 4 can do just about 13 gflops.
@roelfbackus
@roelfbackus 3 жыл бұрын
9:47 the dark screen '...Oh, we got a bit worried ...it looks like it's a coalmine where all the lights turned off...'
@IsaFuie
@IsaFuie 3 жыл бұрын
Quad-core SBC?! It's only a matter of time until these SBCs can play Cyberpunk 2077 on integrated graphics! On a more serious note, this video, like the ones before on this channel, has only made me appreciate computer technology even more.
@6581punk
@6581punk 3 жыл бұрын
I think Intel have held back computing for too long. They created MMX and all the other pointless stuff, bloating the x86 architecture (which was already a bit of an ugly duckling). Then they create the x86 replacement (Itanium) which was a load of rubbish.
@ryanmalin
@ryanmalin 3 жыл бұрын
@@6581punk its a shitty way to think. Intel hasnt held anyone back. You could always have gone with AMD.
@kjrchannel1480
@kjrchannel1480 3 жыл бұрын
The problem is most game developers are bribed to make things for high end gaming PC's. The other problem is a OS monopoly that brought you Virus 10 doesn't want that either. I have only found an SBC to be a controller, or an average media player as long as Google widevine isn't required to stream. Some websites think my RPI needs an Android app to stream. Those are just my peaves with Arm and thinking a good viable game needs more system resources than is realistic. I think some of the best looking games were for older systems because they showed creativity had to make resource management count. I still think Dungeon Keeper was ahead of its time along with other games of that era. Today it is MMO micro transactions, or finger fidgeting on a Idiot Phone to waste your life on. People that appreciate gaming need to turn the hands of time back to quality with less wasted resources.
@MoraFermi
@MoraFermi 3 жыл бұрын
@@6581punk Extending x86 architecture was basically the only way for Intel to move forward while maintaining binary compatibility with older models. Sadly, the two times that Intel's engineers tried to get a clean break through, they were hampered by their own management's greed.
@catchnkill
@catchnkill 3 жыл бұрын
@@AppleReviews Nah! Have Apple sold a single chip of their own design A series processor used in iphone or ipad? None. Thus, they will not sell M1 series of chips either
@perrymcclusky4695
@perrymcclusky4695 3 жыл бұрын
Truly an interesting little board and so relieved Mister Scissors came to our aid. Looking forward to your next video!
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 3 жыл бұрын
Greetings Perry.
@perrymcclusky4695
@perrymcclusky4695 3 жыл бұрын
@@ExplainingComputers Greetings back at you!!!!!!!
@tasmedic
@tasmedic 3 жыл бұрын
I have a few of the original orangepi zeroes and love them. They're not always easy to get working for a particular application, but it can be fun finding out how to make them work. I think great value considering what's on-board. It is a real pity that the company is still less than great at putting software out for their products, though.
@Mico605
@Mico605 3 жыл бұрын
Very happy to see that software and documentation support is improved on OrangePi! 👍
@IanSlothieRolfe
@IanSlothieRolfe 3 жыл бұрын
The message I'm getting about these Pi-alternatives is that the hardware is often competent but they lack the huge community support that Raspberry enjoys, so unless you have specific hardware needs (like, an external wifi antennae for instance) maybe you're better off using the OG.
@dougr.8653
@dougr.8653 3 жыл бұрын
This is a good SBC for its price, but what makes the Raspberry Pi outstand its competitors is the strong community. The only SBC that I'm thinking to buy to replace my RPI3 is the Asus Tinker Board. Much more powerful and it comes from a famous company. Thanks.
@mykofreder1682
@mykofreder1682 3 жыл бұрын
You do want to run software on these things, maybe set up a home web server or use as a streaming player connected to a TV. I would have 0 confidence of this being able to do any of that well and a few years from now it would be out of date and unsupported.
@6581punk
@6581punk 3 жыл бұрын
Plus I don't want to get too political here, but the Raspberry Pi stuff is made here in the UK and a lot of these other boards are sort of copies made in China. They may offer more power and different facilities, but it seems whatever the Raspberry folks do gets mimicked. I use an ODroid N2 myself, they're South Korean and it doesn't resemble a Raspberry Pi.
@Matrxmonky
@Matrxmonky 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I purchased an Odroid-XU4 a couple years back and stopped using it almost immediately. Nearly ZERO community support.
@pilabs3206
@pilabs3206 3 жыл бұрын
I would go with Tinkerboard 2
@pilabs3206
@pilabs3206 3 жыл бұрын
@@Matrxmonky odroid not having community?? are you mad?? I don't like odroids but it have tons of community.
@zenovoz92
@zenovoz92 3 жыл бұрын
Congratulations! A great KZbin channel for viewing interesting and informative computer related topics!
@dreammfyre
@dreammfyre 3 жыл бұрын
I wish I was 12 again and this was the only computer I had. The amount of fun and use you would get out of it would be immense.
@DallasMike424
@DallasMike424 3 жыл бұрын
When I was 12, the wheel was dodgy new technology.
@yashveerthakur7265
@yashveerthakur7265 3 жыл бұрын
@@DallasMike424 bruh.gif
@jimlynch9390
@jimlynch9390 3 жыл бұрын
When I was 12, Sputnik hadn't flown yet and the monolithic op amp was still 6 years out.
@jintymac
@jintymac 3 жыл бұрын
Another fantastic video Chris. I'm looking forward to the next part of the old pc upgrade too!
@defn0s
@defn0s 2 жыл бұрын
When I invent immortality, you're on my top ten list of candidates
@deechvogt1589
@deechvogt1589 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Chris for another review of the ever expanding SBC universe. Stay well!
@horatioyen256
@horatioyen256 3 жыл бұрын
good to see documentation has improved
@gregorymccoy6797
@gregorymccoy6797 2 жыл бұрын
Just got one in the mail. I figured a proper Raspberry pi was still at least 6 months away. I really dislike having only one physical USB port. I figured I'd review this video before setting it up. I am thankful this is still available and not marked up 5x.
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 2 жыл бұрын
Good luck with your new SBC. :)
@cjlowe1650
@cjlowe1650 Жыл бұрын
​@@ExplainingComputersChris, you ever gonna review Orange pi 0 2W? A different form factor than the Orange pi 0 2! Plus a heck of a lot more memory!
@ElmerFuddGun
@ElmerFuddGun 3 жыл бұрын
I do like the click ejecting micro SD card slot. I find the non-clicking harder to get at from inside a case and the when they click you know it is installed properly.
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 3 жыл бұрын
I totally agree.
@o0oxJellyxo0o
@o0oxJellyxo0o 3 жыл бұрын
One thing I would like for you to cover is how to setup a pihole. I am aware there are millions of tutorials on how to do such a thing, but none of them go in depth. The problem I am currently having is figuring out how to set it up on my router, I am able to curl the file, open the setup etc, but when I select the static IP address to make my server I have issues. So perhaps an episode involving networking or the likes. I just know you are huge on SBCs, and because this is a project that was designed specifically for the SBCs I think it would be great if you covered it!
@festro1000
@festro1000 3 жыл бұрын
Love the IO placement, only having the cords on one side makes for good aesthetics.
@jamess1787
@jamess1787 3 жыл бұрын
Touche!
@tin2001
@tin2001 3 жыл бұрын
Makes it a heck of a lot easier to mount in confined spaces such as 3D printers or under a TV cabinet too. We had an original RPi under our back room TV for years, and the main problem when it wasn't working was someone had knocked the USB cable out yet again while moving something else next to it.
@PS_Tube
@PS_Tube 3 жыл бұрын
Unusual packing and unusual wireless antenna. Small form factor, but quite interesting set hardware on this tiny SBC. Cheers to this interesting video Chris, it was a nice change to see Mr. Scissors making a cameo.
@Mustafa.alhijjawi
@Mustafa.alhijjawi 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful price, form factor and features. Another amazing video. Thank you 🌷
@marcoscastrovasquez3859
@marcoscastrovasquez3859 3 жыл бұрын
Was waiting this video, my Orange Pi Zero is on the way, can't wait to start playing with it.
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 3 жыл бұрын
Hope you enjoy it!
@marcoscastrovasquez3859
@marcoscastrovasquez3859 3 жыл бұрын
@@ExplainingComputers Of course, great as always.
@mysomervda
@mysomervda Жыл бұрын
Nice review Christopher! I am working through all your PI Zero type board reviews. One thing that would help me on these reviews would be power usage numbers, I am frequently running these off battery, maybe solar as well and knowing their typical power consumption when idling and going flat out would help, I would be most interested in power usage when running headless. Say hello to Mr. Scissors for me.
@ebeneZr
@ebeneZr 3 жыл бұрын
I like how it’s got a 80s instructional video vibe
@TheTechieScientist
@TheTechieScientist 3 жыл бұрын
Oh , nice video about the orange Pi , loved the mr.scissors cameo
@alextirrellRI
@alextirrellRI 3 жыл бұрын
So the specs on the OrangePi page says it has hardware video decoding of all the modern codecs up to 4K -- I was surprised the KZbin test performed that badly unless something is not coded right with the web player/Chromium.
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 3 жыл бұрын
The hardware indeed has the decoding support. But the available OS, like the available OS on almost all SBCs, certainly does not have the support to use that hardware for video decoding. Taking stock chips and building SBC hardware with them is not that difficult. Providing decent software support is another matter entirely.
@HamedAdefuwa
@HamedAdefuwa 3 жыл бұрын
@@ExplainingComputers Are there any boards that are decent at youtube?
@HKey_Root
@HKey_Root 3 жыл бұрын
It's great watching Chris's vids using the new speed controls KZbin have introduced at the bottom of the screen. Up to 1.5 and he doesn't sound a little bit squeaky. At 0.8 there's a touch of Paul Robson though. Informative video as per usual. Thanks.
@igfoobar
@igfoobar 3 жыл бұрын
This looks like the perfect mix of size, price, and power to use for projects that need just a little bit more than a microcontroller can provide.
@kingmasterlord
@kingmasterlord 3 жыл бұрын
yeah it's exactly what I needed
@saturno_tv
@saturno_tv 3 жыл бұрын
Not first today, but always on my mind. Greetings Chris!
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 3 жыл бұрын
Greetings! Glad you are here as usual! :)
@MrYour101
@MrYour101 3 жыл бұрын
These videos are so informative. Your channel is superb!
@featherpony
@featherpony 3 жыл бұрын
"Citrus-focused desktop" LOL
@DJWESG1
@DJWESG1 3 жыл бұрын
They always go with fruit, but none are brave enough to call their products a 🍋
@parrotraiser6541
@parrotraiser6541 3 жыл бұрын
As usual, thorough coverage of the important matters. It looks as though the spacing of the mounting holes in the Orange is not quite the same as on the Raspberry board? The manufacturers of SBCs, &c really need to consider standardising to benefit the ecosystem of case and fan-mounting makers, (and potential purchasers). The x86 world did that with things like the successively smaller ITX board series, which made the EC "Upgrading" series practical.
@mindnova7850
@mindnova7850 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting for this review! THANK YOU KIND SIR!!
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 3 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@dougr.8653
@dougr.8653 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video for an awesome Sunday. Thanks. 👍
@RollerCoasterLineProductions
@RollerCoasterLineProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Giggity! My fav time of the week, when a new EC.com video appears in my feed
@francoisdastardly4405
@francoisdastardly4405 3 жыл бұрын
The most beautifully british tech channel !!
@haajee1
@haajee1 3 жыл бұрын
Please don't forget there is also Armbian in developement. I run the Orange Pi4. and in the beginning there was not a lot working or supported. But now it works great and also the wifi and bluetooth work. Overclock 2GHz works stable.
@r.g.k.x477
@r.g.k.x477 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a SBC with R9 5950X
@toysareforboys1
@toysareforboys1 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 5900x and the radeon app says every day I should upgrade to the 5950X for better gaming performance, lol :)
@slimplynth
@slimplynth 3 жыл бұрын
I was about to add to my comment, "they should ditch the ethernet for more usb ports" but the gpio option is probably even better :).. nice form factor too at a decent price.. can't think what I'd use it for though..
@carlgustav7196
@carlgustav7196 3 жыл бұрын
Seems to be a nice piece of hardware. Good to see, that the took care of documentation at last. My experience with an orange pi was more than disappointing. Not because of the hardware but the lack / void of documentation.
@questionmark576
@questionmark576 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for being clear about the software and support issues. I loved the Orange Pi Zero when it came out, but at this point half the hardware isn't supported, and kernel updates usually break the system. It's really a shame, because it's a great piece of hardware.
@pkf4124
@pkf4124 3 жыл бұрын
I bought one of these on a whim several months ago, have yet to put it to use. At least I know what it can do now.
@bertblankenstein3738
@bertblankenstein3738 3 жыл бұрын
I've used Stanley the Knife a few times to remove extra plastic so that USB connectors would fit nicely.
@spuds6423
@spuds6423 3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget Stanley's brothers, "Black" and "Decker". (They are all one company, you know) 😀😀😀😀
@marcdraco2189
@marcdraco2189 3 жыл бұрын
SBCs can make a very effective laptop these days. It's remarkable how far we've come with such tiny, low electrical power ARM computers. The power consumption of even a ten year old laptop can be terrifying in comparison.
@boink800
@boink800 3 жыл бұрын
And will the RPi laptop or even RPi Chromebook be next? I hope so.
@RoboNuggie
@RoboNuggie 3 жыл бұрын
To paraphrase William Shakespeare - "Mr Barnatt is as Constant as the North Star" :-) A very nice comparison, and a very nice board - we're spoilt for choice these days indeed!
@harryvendryes
@harryvendryes 3 жыл бұрын
I like your videos. More about actual content than flash. Thanks.
@stuartleckie
@stuartleckie 3 жыл бұрын
Got my USB 3.0 PCIe card in this week, but not fitted it quite yet, now I’m back to thinking if I need another SBC. I think I need to find a use case first though. Thanks again for another great video 👌🏻 ✂️
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 3 жыл бұрын
Good luck fitting the card. :)
@enricosaccheggiani3192
@enricosaccheggiani3192 3 жыл бұрын
A little computer, the possibility to have a backup computer for Word processing, little calculation and quick programming, and a controller for Iot projects for 25 Euro, with a improved documentation. For me is very good.
@B3gBrA92
@B3gBrA92 3 жыл бұрын
You have to take a look for the Rock Pi S model too, it's my favorite. Already using for my projects and I would say clearly it's amazing and best. I'm using with onboard SLC Nand Flash option. When I make some stress test then just saw there's no heating problem. It's was 100% for each core and temperature was still ~41-45 degree. You don't need any cooling parts like IceTower or like that. In summary it does not heat like official Pi SBCs.
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 3 жыл бұрын
Yes the Rock Pi S looks a nice board. I've yet to review a headless system here -- but it may be my first! Always good to get feedback on different SBCs.
@timezonewall
@timezonewall 3 жыл бұрын
@Jim McIntosh Headless means it's not connected to a monitor (or keyboard / mouse), it's only accessed from the network.
@energymarketchile
@energymarketchile Жыл бұрын
The software has improved (as of march 2023). The Debian version is quite mature. Though, Chromium that comes in the distribution has no acceleration BUT if you purge it and reinstall chromium, you get the version with acceleration. You can watch videos at 360 resolution quite well... Even from a headless mode via Nomachines...
@iankearns
@iankearns 3 жыл бұрын
I'm currently looking for a SBC so I can stream live events via a browser on a non-smart TV. Thankfully thorough another great video from Chris, I know this isn't for me
@thewatcher5271
@thewatcher5271 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Chris, Guess Who? It's Your Favorite Sexagenarian From Across The Pond! Since You Said, "Let's Go & Take . . . A Closer Look", I Did. I Wanted To Say Something Flippant Like, Can It Run Crysis But It Doesn't Seem As Funny As When I First Thought Of It. I Still Don't Have One But To Me, You're King Of The SBC! Hope You're Having A Good Year!
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 3 жыл бұрын
Greetings! Aside from the UK being in lockdown since the start of January, I'm having a great year. hope that life is treating you well. :)
@thewatcher5271
@thewatcher5271 3 жыл бұрын
@@ExplainingComputers Very Happy To Get Your Reply & That You're Having A Great Year! My Wife & I Are Celebrating Our 21 Anniversary, Actually It's On The 29 But This Is As Close As We Can Get Until 2024! Your Knowledge Of Computer Science Is Much Appreciated!
@petelynch9468
@petelynch9468 3 жыл бұрын
I totally agree about the software support. I bought a few Orange Pi devices a few years ago and found the same. Good, cheap hardware but a very restricted range of software. As far as the tight squeeze of the connectors, it is possible to shave off some of the plastic to fit them in the space. Just don't cut off too much!
@anthonymccarthy4164
@anthonymccarthy4164 3 жыл бұрын
Another great video. I have saved so much time and frustration by watching these.
@rickh6963
@rickh6963 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great review Christopher. Keep'em coming!
@JimCoupeTQ
@JimCoupeTQ 2 жыл бұрын
That ethernet connector is VERY useful! I have used these with ethernet cable to have a much more stable connection.
@donporter8432
@donporter8432 3 жыл бұрын
You are looking healthier Sir Chris! 👍🙂
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 3 жыл бұрын
Well this is great to hear! Thanks.
@phlizneinbleedblop2318
@phlizneinbleedblop2318 3 жыл бұрын
Thumbs up for Mr.Sissors
@mrfrog8502
@mrfrog8502 3 жыл бұрын
If it had USB 3 it would of been 'all winner' for a NAS application. It's a missed opportunity. There was also enough space on board to space out HDMI and DC input connectors. Not well thought through PCB layout.
@brianwesley28
@brianwesley28 3 жыл бұрын
I'm desperately waiting for SBCs to come with a minimum of one USB 3.1 Gen 2 port (it drives me so insane that they didn't just go 3.0, 3.1, 3.2, 3.3...It is like it is possible to ever run out of numbers. I think they did it to liquidate their 3.0 stock when consumers thought 3.1 Gen 1 meant something other than 3.0?).
@vgamesx1
@vgamesx1 3 жыл бұрын
If you want a low cost NAS I highly recommend finding an old laptop, particularly one with a broken screen or whatever wrong with it, can be found at a similar cost to these cheap SBCs or often even free/thrown away by people who view them as worthless, but there are quite a few benefits like direct sata connection, of course you can't use the larger 3.5mm drives without some hackery but otherwise they can often hold one or two drives, possibly an M.2 for high speed storage or to boot from and sometimes they'll even have USB 3.0 ports.
@intrax2tv
@intrax2tv 3 жыл бұрын
@@vgamesx1 use odroid h2+ ... Awesome hbc for a nas !
@vgamesx1
@vgamesx1 3 жыл бұрын
@@intrax2tv Sure and that is very cool board but my reasoning for going with a laptop is to reuse/recycle old PCs plus you get high-end SBC performance/flexibility at a fraction of the cost, for example I found a thinkpad with an i5-4300u for $20, similar performance to the Celeron J4115 and if you wanted a full on NAS you can get mini pci-e to full 4x extensions or expansion boards that have up to 4 sata ports. Personally, I just wanted to get off dropbox/google drive, so a single drive Nextcloud was perfect for me and well worth the $20 (Technically I bought a 16GB m.2 for $6 and another ~$6 for a cheap charger but still.. It was well under $50)
@matneu27
@matneu27 3 жыл бұрын
That was the reason I ve chosen the Pi4 combined with a SSD on the USB 3 port as host for OpenmediaVault. The rest of the Pi4 like 4k video, quadcore CPU and 4 GB RAM is pure overkill for this application 😁
@charlesm127
@charlesm127 3 жыл бұрын
My first SBC was a Nascom 1 back in the 70's. Not far off a foot square, Z80, 1K RAM, dozens of TTL chips. No OS, used Z80 assembler. I've still got it, must get it out one day, although not sure what to display video on. This was before even CGA graphics!
@paulmichaelfreedman8334
@paulmichaelfreedman8334 3 жыл бұрын
nice as a museum piece. My first SBC was a C64 :) Come to speak of it, most computers were single board in the 70s and 80s! SoC(system on a chip) came much later (2000s)
@thomasjensen1590
@thomasjensen1590 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! Another video from one if my absolute favorite KZbinrs! The orange pi certainly has more modding potential because of usb headers, all ports on one side and all its other advantages. For the record, I agree with mr. Scissors that the bag was oddly sealed. Could be build in to a 1541 disk drive along with a keyrah for sx64 keyboard use
@hoody1892
@hoody1892 3 жыл бұрын
you gotta love sundays bc of this man 😀
@wenbinzhong294
@wenbinzhong294 Жыл бұрын
Hi, GPU is supported now with Linux 5.16. The company has updated the doc and os image.
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers Жыл бұрын
:)
@williamhart4896
@williamhart4896 3 жыл бұрын
Still the same issues with orange pi sbc nice hardware poor support sigh take care professor Chris and thanks for your time reviewing it
@nilanjandutta_
@nilanjandutta_ 3 жыл бұрын
love the retro vibe
@erikkovacs3097
@erikkovacs3097 3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the next model the Orange Pi Zero 2 Ultra Tuscan Orange Grapefruit².
@Aelitaa4
@Aelitaa4 3 жыл бұрын
Connection with Zero Two is intentional? :D
@familyplans3788
@familyplans3788 3 жыл бұрын
sooo excited to see this video and soooo disappointed in the board , great video as usual , Orange Pi sort your stuff out PLEASE !!
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 3 жыл бұрын
They are getting better . . . the hardware is excellent.
@familyplans3788
@familyplans3788 3 жыл бұрын
@@ExplainingComputers i have 2 of their orange pi zero h2 512mb sat in my single board pc box waiting for something to do
@pilabs3206
@pilabs3206 3 жыл бұрын
@@familyplans3788 this soc is far better than H2
@familyplans3788
@familyplans3788 3 жыл бұрын
@@pilabs3206 yes but its the software that lets it down
@palladinate
@palladinate 3 жыл бұрын
Hello from Earth 2 and welcome to another episode of ComplicatingComputers.com! I am Sirhc Warrio. As usual, we will cover whatever piece of computer kit I can slip under my shirt at the store. To my left I have an exciting cardboard box. Left! Let's see, I'll need to use Mr Machete to open. Oh no! There are just packing peanuts inside! But that's Ok. Through the magic of film making I'll make it into a Jellyfish computer with 1 Petabyte of storage running Domino OS and 64.5 Hypothreads. You don't understand these terms? Well, as fans of the show know, I always say - that's what Google is for! Anyways, I really like this system!
@PatrickConstant
@PatrickConstant 3 жыл бұрын
One more time, a good lesson on single board and ... thanks for English lesson too. I learn a lot on computers and I discover new words ("somewhat" and others). 😋
@steven1000000000
@steven1000000000 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Watching this on my Pi 4, to me the software support is probably the most important aspect to user addoption. All the specs in the world are for naught if you can't run a range of OS's, software etc. Furthermore, my impression is that the Pi foundation (or the community) have optimised the Pi's software really well. I don't know if that translates in some cases to the wider ARM linux SBC's, but in many comparisons I've seen, the Pi seems to beat out sometimes more powerfull competitors despite having fewer resources?
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 3 жыл бұрын
You are totally right that the Raspberry Pi Foundation has put masses of resources into software development for the Pi, and great benefits result.
@steven1000000000
@steven1000000000 3 жыл бұрын
@@ExplainingComputers It seems sucess breeds sucess - The Raspberry Pi as a package works well, which breeds a large community and wide eco-system. I think it's hard for some of the other SBC's to create a compelling enough package to beat the R-Pi.
2 жыл бұрын
@@steven1000000000 I never thought about these until recent Great Raspberry shortage... not even they are expensive as hell to get (if any) and with only expensive bundles that noone really needs, Raspberry foundation is turning its back to community. They prioritize selling to manufacturers rather than users. I would not have anything to it if these kits were sold without RPI board itself, and getting it from lets say official raspberry website with limited amount to purchase. This is what competition is using now... similar price, availability ,performance and features that RPI ignores, like ability to add external antenna, physical LAN connectors, or DC barrel jack (when we will get rid of stupid USBC finally!?). Software will always get better overtime... even RPI is getting updates every few weeks.
@steven1000000000
@steven1000000000 2 жыл бұрын
​@ Whilst I definitely would have gone with the Raspberry Pi a year ago, I know all too well that they are almost impossible to get nowadays. So, I'd definitely consider some of the alternatives thesedays. Plus, performance has moved on and some of the newer boards have even better performance. Did the Pi Foundation turn their back on the community...? I don't know... Given that the company is a charity with educational goals, I trust that there's just "supply issues" rather than them purely trying to make as much money as possible... As to what type of device to buy, I think that it depends on the project - If someone has to have the "Pi form factor" for something like a robotics project or need the GPIO interface, then maybe an Orange Pi, Rock Pi (or one of the other alternatives) could be an option. But if it's more for desktop, or mini-server, then there are some older second hand x86 micro PC's from Lenovo/DELL/HP such as the Lenovo ThinkCentre M93P, Dell Optiplex 3050 Micro PC, or a ton of other similar devices which offer a very interesting alternative. They do use a little more power than a Pi but have a lot more processing power, have wider X86 software support, are more easily upgraded than an SBC, are cheaper than scalped prices of a Pi and most importantly, are easily available.
2 жыл бұрын
@@steven1000000000 I agree, these X86 micro PCs are great for performance tools, eg. get something like mini ITX form factor and world opens to you... but energy wise, they are power hogs. It is questionable if the energy bill will pay itself over the price of cheaper HW, but sooner or later it will be more noticeable. Thats why i like Pis and small SBCs, they requre like 2-3W (lets say 20W max) compared to bigger options... and running them 24/7 as a small file servers, adblockers, data loggers or whatnot even from battery backup is easier.
@one_step_sideways
@one_step_sideways Жыл бұрын
Hello, are you going to review the Orange Pi Zero 3? I am particularly interested in seeing how the 4GB RAM model performs compared to the 1GB Orange Pi Zero 2. The SoC seems to be exactly the same as the one in the old Zero 2 in terms of both CPU and GPU performance and that's not particularly great for the next few years because of the rising amount of bloat in the new applications, but I guess it's nice to have a refreshed board with potentially good software support out of the box, for Orange Pi standards. 4GB in particular make it a lot more intriguing because one may load up the board with lots of software at once, attach a big passive heatsink and just let it run with all 4 cores fully saturated and forget about it.
@heyarno
@heyarno 3 жыл бұрын
The openWRT option is appealing to me. The only thing missing is a usb3 port to also use it as a NAS.
@dominiccote2217
@dominiccote2217 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Chris, un grand merci pour tes vidéos, so valuable informations
@AouniX
@AouniX 3 жыл бұрын
There's an Armbian release for this board which I've been running for 2 months. Powered through the router's usb & running Pihole!
@northshorepx
@northshorepx 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Chris, the orange PI is basically devoid of a good software ecosystem and for that reason it's not worth it for for most people.
@salvadorGC338
@salvadorGC338 Жыл бұрын
They just launched a cheap Orange PI Zero 2 W with 1 to 4GB ram and the H618, that looks interesting to what it can do. Specially WIFI5 performance. I do not expect much due to the SDIO interface.
@pleappleappleap
@pleappleappleap Жыл бұрын
I just bought one because of this review.
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers Жыл бұрын
Good luck with your new hardware. It's a nice little SBC.
@pleappleappleap
@pleappleappleap Жыл бұрын
@@ExplainingComputers And thank you so much for the review. BTW, I'm going to be using it as a stratum-1 time source.
@Grantham777
@Grantham777 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the good info as ever !
@DavidPagett
@DavidPagett 3 жыл бұрын
I had similar frustration trying to install Android, the required version of PhoenixCard is in the 'Office Tools' download in the Orange Pi Zero 2 section. I did get Android running eventually but it shouldn't be so cryptic.
@Travelbeatcreations.official
@Travelbeatcreations.official 3 жыл бұрын
If you don't know, you have delay enabled in your sound settings. I don't know what you use to convert your videos, but it doesn't sound very... professional😅 But we do appreciate your extensive knowledge about these SBC's
@ExplainingComputers
@ExplainingComputers 3 жыл бұрын
No, I don't have a delay enabled in my sound settings. You must be experiencing a KZbin playback issue. There is no "conversion" going on here -- everything is shot ProRes and edited in Premiere Pro.
@Whipster-Old
@Whipster-Old 3 жыл бұрын
I like this unit. I am considering it for a potential Voron build.
@ZILtoid1991
@ZILtoid1991 3 жыл бұрын
I've just got this board. Don't have an appropriate HDMI cable for it at the moment, and I'll have to rearrange my multi-monitor wiring. I'll try to get a graphics driver for it (either PanFrost or something else), because I've paid for the whole SoC, and not just the four AArch64 cores.
@zeendaniels5809
@zeendaniels5809 Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to get this to replace my RPi Zero W as my PiHole server! The Ethernet port got me.
@gordslater
@gordslater 3 жыл бұрын
That 13pin header seems similar to the one on the iriginal OrangePi Zero - the daughter board for is cheap and handy as it gives 2 USB sockets (not sure if the original version will physcially or electrically fit though) I always wondered if I could just solder some Dupont wires to a USB flash drive and see if it will be recognised on the header pins itself but I never got around to it. It wouldn't be hotpluggable without a couple of capacitors (I don't think) but would be handy for some use-cases. For "fat" cable plugs you can sometimes shave a little off the sides of the with a sharp knife but a much safer method is to use some glasspaper laid flat on a benchtop and sand/grind the connector a little slimmer. Go too far and disaster strikes of course, but many connector mouldings are far thicker than they need to be.
@TuttleScott
@TuttleScott 3 жыл бұрын
I'm running armbian on my orange pi. it seems to be worked on more than orange pi releases.
@ninline2000
@ninline2000 3 жыл бұрын
Software support is key to any system. Superior hardware is not enough. The Pi, to me, is more about the community around it than the board itself. As long as the hardware is reasonably competitive, the support is the real difference maker. Chromium on the Pi has been heavily worked over to support the system. I bought a Pi 4 in the Summer of 2019. When I first got it, the thing had many issues. Over the next few months I got one update after another and the board's performance improved in leaps and bounds. Too many of these other boards get a few updates and then the manufacturer moves on to something else.
@james10739
@james10739 3 жыл бұрын
I have really been out of touch since like maybe the pi 3 I have seen some of these but need to get back into them I want a good one to use as an android tv
@mepasmall610
@mepasmall610 3 жыл бұрын
Hello! Tnx for every uploaded video. Your advices and lessons help a lot. I just need advice for my school project. I have to make Smart Pet feeder (microcontroler Rasperry Pi Zero W) which has to be controled by website designed by me ( I go on website and click feed when I want to feed my pet). Project also has a camera which control pet and the condition of the feeder.Camera capture photo every 5 sec when I go on website and save it in album. I am begginer in all of this and I would be very thankful if You just tell me how demanding this project is, what are the kye steps for website designe and "connecting" it with RPi Zero. I have an option to work with Arduino Nano and Ethernet Shield. Do You think it's easier way? Thank You! 🙃
@KentoCommenT
@KentoCommenT 3 жыл бұрын
Another thing I think should be mentioned is the boards encoder, which is better than most boards as they cap at 1080p30 and this can do 4K25 or 1060p60, which I would assume would allow 720p120 video recording too.
@junovicz
@junovicz 2 жыл бұрын
Woah didn't expect that performance
@DAVIDGREGORYKERR
@DAVIDGREGORYKERR 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe would be a great distro for someone with an old ARCHIMEDES Desktop PC.
@Drebin2293
@Drebin2293 3 жыл бұрын
Tip for the future, 1280x720 (1366x768) was commonly known as HD. 1920x1080 was Full HD. At least, this is how they were marketed years ago. I'm pretty sure the Pi 3 A+ is 1080p but that might have some thinking it was 720p.
@kyoudaiken
@kyoudaiken 3 жыл бұрын
For the PhoenixCard you might wanna click on the GoogleDrive logo instead of the link itself.
@karlscheel3500
@karlscheel3500 3 жыл бұрын
Christopher, I don't mean to be rude, but I believe I spotted a typo in your onscreen specifications for voltage and current: You have them displayed as "5A/2A".
@Furzkampfbomber
@Furzkampfbomber Жыл бұрын
I want to use Octoprint with my 3D printer for controlling prints and running a camera. And considering that even a Raspberri Pi 3 costs twice as much now as the ~50 Euro an Orange Pi Zero 2 with 1gb costs, not even to talk about the 200+ Euro for a Raspi 4, this looks like a very interesting alternative.
@enricosaccheggiani3192
@enricosaccheggiani3192 3 жыл бұрын
Well done I have shared this on my LinkedIn network
@markcnc
@markcnc 3 жыл бұрын
So odd. I would love to be a fly on the wall when the creators of these marvels of electronics decide what goes on it, what is sacrificed. Fascinating 🤔 🤯
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