ORBEA ORCA Expensive Vs Cheap | BIKOTIC

The Orbea Orca range is great, but kind of confusing! What do you get if you buy an expensive version vs a cheap version?? $$ vs $!!
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00:00 Intro
00:19 The Orbea Orca range can be a bit confusing...
01:00 Examples of bikes that could do with another name - Specialized's Allez and Allez Sprint road bikes, Scott's Addict and Addict RC road bikes, Giant's Contend SL and Contend AR budget road bikes.
01:26 Orbea Orca OMX LTD vs OMR Team road race bikes
03:21 Specialized Tarmac SL7 vs SL6
03:44 Orbea Orca range of bikes decoded...
05:39 Orbea Orca M10iLTD PWR vs M40
05:39 Orbea Orca M10iLTD PWR vs M40 spec sheet side by side
07:13 Why do the cheap Orca's have such bad tyres on?? Vittoria Zaffiro V rigid steal bead
08:13 Orbea Orca M30i
08:57 Orbea Orca range, Scott Addict RC and Canyon Ultimate in the BIKOTIC Ranger...
09:58 Canyon Ultimate CF SL 8
10:04 How to buy an Orbea Orca
10:23 Design your ride on the Orbea MyO bike configurator
10:45 THE END...Elves and Winspace please get in touch with some good pictures!

[@dillytam6352]

I think you don't just enjoy bicycles by riding them but also learning and analysing them, good for you and good for us. Thank you.

[@marctschopp7867]

Great video, finally I understand the Orca lineup. And I love your website to compare bikes, what a fantastic tool. Thanks so much for both!

[@bikotic]

Thanks for the comment😁👌

[@paulw677]

Always enjoy your videos. Although each time I feel like a new bike is just a little further out of reach with the incredibly high prices. Still happily riding my 2017 Canyon Ultimate CF SLX 8, Ultegra di2 with rim brakes. Great bike, only issue I’ve had is the Mavic free hub needs regular servicing, at least once or twice a year.

[@mblasavage]

What a great website you have created. Although I'm not in the market for this brand, I used your website to compare Canyon bike geometries. I have the aluminum Grail 7 and thought I wanted the Ultimate until I got an accurate comparison to both my bike and the two choices. I learned that the Endurace geometry is what I was looking for. Now the wait begins... 😂 Thank you!!

[@kallewirsch7915]

The good thing on Orbea is that you can get their tier 1 frame "OMX" with the same wheels and the same handlebars in Ultegra or Dura Ace Spec. The only difference is the groupset and the saddle rails (carbon vs. titanium or steel). This is really great. So you can save a lot of money if you don´t need Dura Ace for 10.000+EUR. You can stick to below 7.000EUR. Which other brand offers thsis? At Speci you need to buy S-Works to get the top frame and wheels. At Canyon you neeed to buy CFR, right? That´s a great differentiation for Orbea in my eyes.

[@Stealthgate007]

Thanks, I always find these entertaining and educational.

[@bikotic]

Cheers!

[@thegrall6377]

Just to add a little to the model codes: The second number indicates a groupset manufacturer. So 10 means Shimano Dura-Ace, 11 is Sram Red, 20 is Shimano Ultegra, 21 is Sram Force and so on... great video btw

[@AliAdam80]

your website is unmatched!!!! 😭 so good!!!! keep up the good work!!!

[@bikotic]

Thanks!

[@hockysa]

while confusing its better than some other brands with just fancy sounding names that tell you nothing

[@bikotic]

for sure, once you get your head round it it makes complete sense!

[@ralfherzog6782]

I like your videos, informative and funny. Think about to buy this bike.

[@MonkeyKing1969]

Hello Bikotic - I bought an Orca Aero with Ultegra DI2 3 years ago using the MyO system with my own colours and personalisation. It arrived exactly as specified and still looks amazing - using a matt paint finisher when cleaning helps protect it. The bike is great, Orbea's customer service is brilliant and friendly and I can't imagine changing the frame any time soon. Thanks for the great video!

[@bikotic]

Good to know - Cheers!

[@beesplaining1882]

Thanks for this comment. I've had the same bike as you for 2 years now. Re the paint finisher, do you have a brand name? I have a black matt colour frame and it looks great when clean but looks dirty after only one or two rides!

[@MonkeyKing1969]

@@beesplaining1882 It was Muc-Off Polish Matt Finish Detailer Bike Spray - seems to work OK. Bike needs a clean so I'll be using it tomorrow!

[@beesplaining1882]

@@MonkeyKing1969 thanks for that. Safe riding.

[@kallewirsch7915]

Great video! I´ve understood the frame differences in a way that "OMX" is their tier 1 frame and "OMR" ist their tier 2 frame.

[@hbade]

I have a '22 Orca Aero M10i that I absolutely adore, having come from a '15 BMC TMR01 and absolutely could not justify $5k more for another BMC of the same groupset/spec. One of the best things about buying Orbea (besides having great bikes for their price point) is that they're a Co-Op, so employees have ownership of the company to some degree. Made it a little easier to justify going with Orbea over other brands.

[@bikotic]

Didn't know that, thanks

[@henrikerdland578]

I designed my Orbea Orca OMX on the website. It turned out to look just as I wanted it to. Metallic dark grey that faded over in black. With dark red stickers.

[@JonFairhurst]

I’ve got the Orca OMX. I ordered it as frame-only for $3,500 USD with custom colors the November before COVID. I didn’t get it until May, but that was partly because of lockdowns. Everything was as expected and the quality was excellent. I took a close look inside the frame and the layup seems to be quite clean. I built it up with ENVE 4.5 AR wheels, my trusty saddle, and Ultegra 11 Di2. The bike is reasonably light, but not exceptionally so. The compliance is excellent, as is the handling. That was the year that the industry trended towards disc, drop seat stays, and hidden cables, all of which I wanted. I went electronic to avoid sticky shifting with tightly routed cables. It was the best value available for those features, plus custom paint and even my name on the frame. I’m 100% satisfied with no temptation to upgrade. (Okay, I might go 12-speed at some point, mainly to move the 11 speed to my winter bike. I’m sold on electronic shifting now.)

[@bikotic]

Nice!!

[@ariffau]

3:17 Orca OMR accepts up to 35c slick tyres and has a standard round 27.2 seatpost. Orca OMX accepts up to 32c and has integrated d-shaped aero seatpost. I own one and I love it. Hope that helps!

[@viffer94]

It’s easy to take shots at electronic shifting, I’ve taken my share over the years. But having lived with it for a bit I can say the shifting is always instantaneous, flawless and 100% precise and always being able to select the correct gear without any fiddling or faffing about actually does make you a faster more efficient cyclist. So given that upgrading the tires and wheelset is much easier than upgrading the drivetrain it’s easy to see why Orbea would make the choices they did on their lower tier bikes. The heavy alloy wheels and low quality tires are just meant to get you started until you save enough sheckles for a nicer wheelset.

[@531c]

Shimano 105 equipped Orca can be bought in UK for £1999. Great content BTW.

[@m99343]

Great video. Just so you know, the ‘M’ before the number means a carbon frame. The ‘D’ means an alloy frame. The numbers which follow, the lower the number, the better the components. M10 is carbon with Dura Ace. M20 is Carbon with Ultegra etc. the ‘I’ after the number indicates Di2.

[@kallewirsch7915]

I´ve understood the "PWR" as Powermeter option you can add to (almost) every bike. Your dealer just has to order it. Then, the factory will exchange the normal Shimano crank to a single sided Powermeter crank by 4iiii, right? So, every model is available as PWR and non-PWR.

[@adamgoodman3422]

Enjoy your videos and site. Please review the new Cannondale Super six compared to the older. Thanks

[@christabern9144]

I have the Orca OMX DA Di2 and configured it via the MyO. I nearly made a horrible mistake trying to make it unique but instead just made it look crap. Thankfully managed to change it and the bike arrived exactly as specced. I wasn’t fond of the wheels though (Vision 55SC) Hunt limitless 48 and Conti 5000 sorted that.

[@richardcarr6493]

BIKE DNA SHARING IS VERY PREVILANT HERE l think style is a big thing so price weight and parts are the next thing to compare ,BTW alloy steerer is not bad thing it adds 200g vx carbon fork but more crash resistance !! l say theers lots of low cost carbon wheels out there so buy the lower model and upgrade the wheels later :) ALSO l noticed the alloy models look like their carbon counterparts ,great option for crit racers !!

[@robcalkelme]

Fantastic bike reviews as always , truly a professional approach ! Are there road e -bikes on your website ? Would be great if you can do some reviews some time soon . I had a bicycle accident and cannot cycle for the next 6 months due to my surgery, though I was told that it would be best to start on an ebike until I make a full recovery, so would love to see what’s available and what you honestly think as I truly , truly value your opinion. THANKS 😊

[@bikotic]

Hey Rob, sorry to hear that. There are a few e-road bikes on my site, under the 'BIKE TYPE' tab in the bike finder....there are a lot more 'E-MTBs', under the mtb section of the same tab. This is because I've only tried an e-mtb, at a trail centre - and it was ace, planning to do a video on them at some point....

[@robcalkelme]

@@bikotic Thank You 🙏 I’ll have a look 👀 many thanks once again -

[@l2_chiken_wing862]

The M models are the Carbon ones and the H which stands for Hydro in spanish are the alloy ones

[@h.p.734]

I wish they just kept the same frame shape throughout the lineup, like Giant do. I don't know what else to say.. But I've gotta give bikotic any edge against the algorithm I can, so here's my comment! Go bikotic!!

[@bikotic]

haha, magic, cheers!!

[@hobokenarts]

35mm will touch...I ran 32mm and have 3mm clearance...they come with 28mm and that is also what they (and I) recommend, however, never had a problem with the 32mm tires.

[@giedriusa.4926]

Very helpful! Thank You. Liked and subscribed! I learned a lot from this video, will check others. So easy and understandable for me as a newbie:)

[@nationsnumber1chump]

Can u add my 2013 rabobank TCR? Looking to get a new bike soon. Thinking about the allez sprint for crit racing

[@markpickles3251]

I bought the gravel Orbea. Ordered using the myO custom colours. It took 3 months to arrive, missing the holiday I'd bought it for and when it arrived it was Matt instead of Metallic. The shop I ordered it through said I could reject it but offered me some money off if I took it. (it was their mistake) I was worried about the finish of a matt bike and I was right. It's not durable and the stickers have started to come off because they aren't underneath a laquer. Oil and grime also soaks into the paint eventually as again it's a textured finish not gloss. The configurator was fun though!

[@bikotic]

oh no, that's not a great advert :( I did wonder if it was open to things going wrong

[@markpickles3251]

@@bikotic Yeah, the shop should have double checked the order really. To be fair to them, they supplied the demo bike FOC for the holiday. Just wish I'd rejected the bike. I am considering contacting them to see if Orbea will look at the paint quality. Shouldn't have parts of the decals peel off.

[@chaol.5619]

Is aluminum steerer in carbon fork any good? I’m interested in m30i, but this concerned me a little bit, since I don’t see any other carbon bikes have this.

[@JDRVP]

A number of companies do this. Only difference is weight with also a hair less dampening from road buzz. The carbon forks really do most of the dampening however.

[@dronestuff6590]

Just looked on the fork spec and neither M20 , M30 nor M40 have a aluminium fork. They also come with Carbon Fork. Otherwise, Thx for the good info!

[@universe-juice]

Tires immediately go in the trash. Maybe just send the bike out with no tires. Anyway, great video as always. I like orbea I think?

[@harm0ny158]

Hi, i work in a bike shop and the M in the Name stands for carbon, orbea alloy frames have an H instead

[@ralr]

@Hambini has a winspace. Maybe he can take a couple of pictures for you!

[@The1mars1]

Can we ask for review on the new Bianchi please!!!!!

[@ChrisCapoccia]

All the power meters are not the same. You have to get up pretty high in the price range before you switch from single sided to dual sided power meters that actually measure both legs instead of guessing that left only is fine

[@bikotic]

fair point

[@sylvainmichaud2262]

£2 299 for a Tiagra equipped bike. Who would have guessed only 3 years ago ? When manufacturers and local bike store will be overstock due to a drop in demand caused by an abundance of used bike on the market, the climbing interest rates, etc. ..., those prices will fall dramatically.

[@hcw199]

I bought my tiagra giant contend in 2017 for £679. Admittedly it's not a carbon frame, but that price is crazy today.

[@kevinbaker6878]

Presume a side on picture of my Winspace would not be good enough? 🤔

[@bikotic]

We could give it a go, is it high res and pretty square on?

[@kevinbaker6878]

@@bikotic more than happy to send a pic over to see what you can do with it.

[@bikotic]

@@kevinbaker6878 cool, let's give it a go - [e-mail] 👍🏻

[@Cetrifuga1945]

Belle sodisfazioni

[@ChrisCapoccia]

maybe you should have waited another week or so.... looks like orbea put out 2023 models which look like new paint choices with fewer accessory choices for the same price

[@donwinston]

I don't believe Winspace and Elves sells complete bikes.

[@mbozar7572]

I commented a comment

[@qibble455]

:D

[@lucarusso7915]

M stays for Carbon frames.

[@bikotic]

Wonder why they choose M?

[@lucarusso7915]

M for molded (carbon frames) H for Hydroformed (alu frames).

[@bikotic]

@@lucarusso7915 ah!!!! Thanks👍🏻

[@JayLato]

Worst naming of all brands.