Orbea Wild 2023 E Bike Review - Best Enduro EMTB for 2023?

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Orbea Wild 2023 E Bike Review - Best Enduro EMTB for 2023?
Riders I hope you like this video and as always if you have any questions please just ask.
Orbea Wild Test Days in Spain 2023
22 y 23 de abril en Bikephilosophy Malaga
12 y 14 de mayo en Escapa Girona
8,9 y 10 de septiembre en Festibike (Madrid)
28, 29 y 30 de septiembre en Seaotter Europe (Girona)
Timestamps:
00:00 Orbea Wild 2023 E Bike Review - Best Enduro EMTB for 2023?
00:46 where can I test a Orbea Wild in 2023?
00:53 The Brand New Orbea Wild 2023 M-Team 9,4999 Euros
01:48 geometry numbers of the Orbea Wild 2023
01:55 how much does the Orbea Wild 2023 weigh?
03:27 Best looking ebike for 2023 has to be the Orbea Wild
04:38 first impressions of the Orbea Wild
07:02 How is the new Bosch Gen 4 Smart System on the Orbea Wild ?
07:29 Bosch Race Motor vs Bosch Gen 4 Motor worth the upgrade on the Orbea Wild
09:00 How does the Orbea Wild Ride ?
09:21 Hows the suspension feel on the Orbea Wild ?
10:01 Which is the best value model of the new Orbea Wild 2023
11:01 How does the Orbea Wild Climb?
13:12 How does the Orbea Wild ride Enduro ?
13:57 Hows does the Orbea Wild Trail ride?
16:48 Conclusion of the Orbea Wild 2023
17:32 is the Orbea Wild good Value
18:43 750wh vs the 625wh in the Orbea Wild which is better
19:19 what size should if buy for the Orbea Wild 2023 ?
19:35 it's not all gravy the things I didn't like about the Orbea Wild
21:10 Who is the Orbea Wild for?
21:51 the million dollar question would I buy the Orbea Wild today with my hard earned cash ?
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[@SamsBikes]

Riders I was super lucky to test the Orbea Wild 2023 and WOW just WOW.... Review is live... and as always got any questions please ask...

[@collinellis3503]

hey Sam! , great video mate. just curious if you have anything in the works to test or ride the pole voima? its number 1 right now on my list, but would be nice to see a few more reviews before spending that kind of money, thanks!

[@shaneward4065]

I had the pole voima and in my opinion it was a work of art but felt very heavy.

[@adriancuevas4766]

can I run a coil on it and would you recommend it

[@legregmaster1731]

Hey mate i order wild m20 I need change fork for 38 performance elite 170 and maybe wheels what do you think about ex 1700 dtswiss it’s not e-bike but I’m low weight rider thx

[@shaneward4065]

Great review Sam, that's put my mind at ease as I have the wild with the race mtr coming. I had the pole voima but felt like a tank very heavy then had the santa cruz bullit and was awsome everything I wanted except the battery life so I'm hoping the wild will be the one 👍

[@crisonthealps4542]

thanks for the video. I think is an amazing bike, i'll get mine next week, can't wait 💪🏼💪🏼😉

[@SamsBikes]

Thanks mate enjoy it! Total beast of a ebike

[@davisjl1979]

I love Orbea bikes. I don’t love Orbeas support which why I passed on the Wild. I had a bad experience with my rise that has turned me away from Orbea.

[@neilmartinez143]

Great review. Thanks. Would you suggest putting 2.5F and 2.4R tires vs the 2.6? How would that affect the handing?

[@CarlosAntunesMTB]

Excellent video Sam! Congrats.

[@SamsBikes]

Thanks Carlos

[@brendan1]

I've got a Wild LTD on order for January 2024. Long wait and it'll be winter here in Canada, so will have to wait to ride it until spring, but really stoked to get riding on it! I agree it would be nice to see more customization options such as the Magura MT7 brakes and the SRAM GX AXS T-Type transmission.

[@neilmartinez143]

Thanks for the great initial review. Any motor clunking noise? How would you compare it to the Levo?

[@AZMTB]

Heading to a Orbea demo in Phoenix this morning at Emigos Bike Shop 👍I have an Oso now but am thinking about switching to one of these.

[@SamsBikes]

Enjoy mate let’s me know it compares the Oso is a beast as well!

[@esprisomo9799]

Amazing video

[@SamsBikes]

Thanks mate! Amazing bike

[@77rockcity]

Put 30 miles on one during Bikefest in Bentonville. Absolutely brilliant bike 💯

[@DubiRoz]

Great video Sam, can u briefly compare between Turbo Levo and the Wild?

[@bennyyyyx]

Hi Sam! I love your reviews, always professional and detailed. I have a 2021 Merida eone sixty, a bike that is not too heavy and quite agile in corners, but when the rocks arrive it becomes less precise. With the wild I can resolve this lack without losing agility? I hope in your answer🙏

[@SamsBikes]

Hey Rider to many options these days send me a PM in instagram and we can chat

[@charlieplatt931]

Crushing miles on my Levo gen 3 this weekend but the Wild looks nice too! Wish it was more adjustable

[@SamsBikes]

Enjoy the Levo mate! Yep it would of been nice to have more geo changed

[@andyrichardson7815]

Thanks for the great review Sam! Just a couple of questions: do you think it would be advantageous to spec the 160 fork instead of the 170 (to lower the front end - and it's also 'e-bike optimized')? How was the dropper? - do you think it's worth the optional upgrade to the Fox? And what length did you have, 200mm?

[@SamsBikes]

Hey Andy thanks mate, I personally would go 170 because I’m more enduro if you want it a little more trail orientated go 160 but you really won’t notice that much of a difference. I felt the dropper was nice I don’t think I would upgrade to the fox and for length of the dropper I’m not sure at a guess it was 175 and it was perfect for me the seat was not in the way at all. I hope that helps.

[@andyrichardson7815]

@@SamsBikes Great, thanks

[@sdigsy4414]

@SamsBikes off topic question - which pads did you use with your Magura MT7's?

[@SamsBikes]

Hey mate I use race pads don’t sound great and take time to warm up but I like them

[@shanemichael388]

The Wild looks like a great bike , I do like the design (looks slick) here in NZ its still difficult to get some brands, I'm looking to get a Giant Reign E+2(when available) The Orbea wild(not available yate also) with very close spec (H10) to the Giant is $14,500nzd, the Reign is $9700nzd. I would prefer the Bosch system on the wild but not worth paying almost $5k more for it. bikes have similar geo specs Pricing getting a little crazy Another good review Sam

[@SamsBikes]

Hey Shane thanks for the kind words mate. Yep I always say it’s hard to beat the giants for Value. The bosch does have the edge over the Syncdrive but 5k worth i agree

[@paulomoreira3147]

Great vídeo.Congratulalions.Is the trek rail a good enduro bike?orbea wild vs trek rail ,wath do you recomend?

[@SamsBikes]

Thanks Paulo, I really like both bikes I think the Rail is a very confident enduro ebike even through it only has 150 of rear travel. I feel the wild has the edge now if your happy to not have a removable battery 🔋

[@ENDUROIBIZA]

Did you like More kellys theos or orbea wild 2023? Looking for nimble and good suspensión feeling …

[@SamsBikes]

Very hard to say really need more time on the Wild! Both pretty amazing bikes

[@leewhittle4340]

Great video as usual Sam, off topic ,but any chance of a video on pros and cons of de-restricting a bike, from a riders perspective 🍻

[@SamsBikes]

Thanks Lee, I’m really against this, if everyone starts riding at 30-40km in the trail centers it will only be a matter of time until e-bikes get classed at emotos and then it’s game over

[@leewhittle4340]

@SamsBikes thanks for the reply Sam , rode husaberges in the UK on trails until they closed them down, so I know where you're coming from m8 🍻🍻👌

[@neilelliston]

Flow trails are always over the limiter and easier to ride on a pedal bike! On fire roads gravel biked go much faster. So Derestricted to 25mph is the perfect speed.

[@toddjuergens8560]

Looks epic dude. Would suit Aussie trail 🤟🏼

[@kevinlandry4054]

Love your review Sam! Always a joy to watch. I’m curious how you’d compare this with your KSL? Outside of power of course. I’m looking to hang with the big motors but don’t want to go to a heavy Turbo Levo.

[@SamsBikes]

Thanks for the kind words mate, the KSL is a DH bike 100% just a beast on the DH runs where the Wild Sits between a Trail bike and DH but are fantastic but if it was a race to the bottom I would take the KSL!

[@kevinlandry4054]

Thanks Sam. Actually the answer I was looking for. Ride on brother!

[@Infectedsilo]

Hi Sam! Interesting review. I ordered my 2023 M-LTD at the end of November last year and if all goes well, I'll take delivery of it in a couple of weeks. (Scheduled for delivery at my LBS on the 9th of May here in Belgium) My question is, have they told you anything about the availability of the Bosch CX race motor? Because my bike will be fitted ex-works with the regular CX motor, which they will swap out for the race motor by the end of the year, since this motor won't be deliverable before the end of this year. Do you have a source that can back this information up?

[@SamsBikes]

Hey mate thanks for the kind words! Let me reach out to my contact and see what they have to say about that. It does sound kind right when Bosch released the race motor they said it would only be a small number now it seems almost all brand have put it in there top model so they much be short on stock.

[@Infectedsilo]

@@SamsBikes Thanks! As far as I've read and been told the race motor is only available on brands that have a E-WSE team. 2500 units are being issued for every bike brand. It just seems odd that Bosch passed this information on quite some time ago, and still isn't able to produce these motors. Thanks for reaching out to your contact to have this verified! 😁

[@07gixer]

Hey Sam You state the bike is the M- Team model, and mention carbon rims, I thought the M-Team comes with alloy rims? Curious as trying to work out real weights of the Wild models

[@SamsBikes]

Hey Mark you could be right I didn’t check the rims were carbon but I was told they were by the orbea marketing guy.

[@chloeellis4117]

Great vid... Nice bike.... Too expensive though, really needs to get a grip with costs....

[@miguelmchaves]

Thanks Sam, great video ! Very insightful. Trying to decide between the Orbea Wild H10 or the Canyon Strive:On CFR, with carbon frame, Fox 38 Preformance Elite, Fox X2 and XT brakes, at 5.550€ with a 750 hW battery. It's great value, but not sure about choosing a direct to consumer brand on an ebike... The alternative will be the Orbea Wild H10 at 6.000€ . Any thoughts?!

[@SamsBikes]

Hey mate both great options! If you want to chat maybe send me a Instagram DM and I’m happy to help

[@supraman160]

How would you compare it to the Giant Reign E+1. I have one , with a coil, and i'm considering upgrading to the orbea wild (carbon version)

[@SamsBikes]

Very hard to compare send us a private massage in instagram and we can chat

[@joanchaler9142]

Hello, what size do you recommend for 1.77cm and a seat height of 74cm? I have a levo 22 in size s3 and there is a lot of difference if I took a size L

[@SamsBikes]

Hey Rider I would say your a M but it would be great if you could sit on M and L and see which feels right to you.

[@xavierk2422]

I'm 178 and went for an L on the opinion of the bike shop. I'll find out in about a month when it arrives. I expect to slam the seat forward and fit a shorter stem.

[@chadlindenbach8471]

Hey there. I’m 178 and my large fits perfectly. I do have long arms and short legs. I would say to look at effective top tube length closely. Also, reach is generous.

[@J0nny61]

Hi Sam, I've asked this question several times on various channels and never had an answer. I'm a large heavy rider. paying extra for a bike that's lightweight doesn't make any sense to me. I ride an Orbea Wild H25 2021 model and have done 3500 miles on it, I love it, but can't think of a reason to swap it for a lighter bike. Am I missing something?

[@SamsBikes]

Hey mate thanks for the question. For me a ebike at 18-23 is about right I do really notice it when they start pushing 25-26kg

[@J0nny61]

@@SamsBikes Cheers Sam, I suppose the only thing to do is try one.

[@myfeds101]

Hey Sam - what did you prefer, the Wild or the canyon strive on?

[@SamsBikes]

Super hard to say mate! I love both of them

[@WeimaranersAreTheBest]

reading up online the Bosch is prob best motor....im shopping emtb and with sooooo many on market,,,im starting with shopping for bikes with this motor...and eliminates numerous bikes and endless search for best bang for bike emtb....so obea wild one of the best?

[@msjj000]

Hey Sam, what’s that colour like in the flesh? Paint finish good? Is it classy and interesting with the clear coat over carbon and the fleck or looks like a colour your grandpa would pick?

[@SamsBikes]

I think it looks very classy but maybe a little boring not like my new pink canyon haha 😆

[@msjj000]

@@SamsBikes thx - classy works!! But yeah you’re right! Your custom paintwork rocks!

[@chrismelero7116]

Great video. How does the orbea compare to the Giant reign E?

[@grantdansie6642]

Yeah would like to hear more about this comparison

[@SamsBikes]

I might need to do a video on this!

[@chadlindenbach8471]

Thanks for the entertaining review, Sam. I’m three rides into my new Wild. This bike is a revelation!

[@SamsBikes]

Thanks Chad it’s a total beast enjoy 😉 mate

[@ioannisparaskevopoulos1120]

Awesome bike! I would consider buying it,but I want the option to run it mullet. Sam, get your hands on a Unno Mith and that awesome Crestline RS 7550 if you can find one, they look amazing! Cheers!

[@SamsBikes]

Thanks mate definitely trying to try both!

[@ioannisparaskevopoulos1120]

@@SamsBikes Great, can’t wait for this!

[@outlandishmtb]

Great quick review. I know it was too short but how does it compare to your Levo. These are the two bikes I'm considering. I don't care about taking the battery out so not an issue. That looks like a fun riding area. Cheers 🍻

[@SamsBikes]

Jerry mate both are fantastic out right speed the Wild takes the cake but for now playing on the trails the levo owns that! Which one would I pick? Man I need more time on the Wild to say that

[@outlandishmtb]

@@SamsBikes tough choice. I’m probably getting a 2021 so it’ll depend what I see first when I’m in buying mode. The up side to the Levo is servicing is available everywhere. I like the look of the Wild. It’s all about getting a great deal on a used one for me. Thanks for the reply. I can’t go wrong with either.

[@tbone7844]

Issue with speed is you get accustomed to it.

[@outlandishmtb]

We’ll I’ve got a 2023 Wild arriving next week! Should be a blast to ride.

[@17madracki17]

Sam. Any chance you review and compare the Gas Gas , Husqvarna,Yamaha ebikes. I'm thinking to pull the trigger on one. Need help deciding.

[@SamsBikes]

Mate they are all on my list! Let’s see how I go! You see the new GasGas wow just take my money !

[@jordanmackay3568]

Please don't. Get the Scott Ransom

[@beatrizgasco4776]

❤

[@signifyanir]

The bike looks great ! I really hope the solve the rear triangle issue . Biside that , it looks great.

[@SamsBikes]

Yes I did hear about that problem I’m sure it’s all sorted in 2023

[@ioannisparaskevopoulos1120]

What about the rear triangle?

[@user-mk8wd8qw9k]

22 triangle issues and how can you say its not an amazing climbing machine ? Mine is a stinking mountain goat and the geometry is perfect why would you need to alter and what do you think the advantages would be

[@davisonline7827]

I cant choose now between 2022 wild h20 and scott strike 930 as my first e mtb, it both costs same and both have some pros and cons.

[@SamsBikes]

Hey Davis hit me up on Instagram and I’ll give you a hand

[@melodyfrench9576]

Would you recommend the 23 Orbea wild or the commencal power SX?

[@SamsBikes]

Not sure mate would need to ride the SX

[@melodyfrench9576]

Have you ridden any commencal Ebike to compare it to?

[@pjsanab]

I noticed you don’t focus on how the bike jumps. Some bikes are great at trail or enduro riding meanwhile others excel at jumps. How does this bike compare to the Transition Repeater

[@SamsBikes]

Hey mate I only had 3 hours and on the trails there are no real jumps so I couldn’t really test it. Fingers crossed I get the bike for a few weeks and do a full deep dive on it

[@grillob3]

Which one do you like better going down hill, orbea wild or kenevo SL?

[@SamsBikes]

Booth are really good I need more time on the Wild to really give my opinion.

[@grillob3]

@@SamsBikes Thanks!

[@graysquirreltreeservice7299]

New megawatt with sram motor vs orbea wid ???thoughts please 😍

[@SamsBikes]

Oh mate I that’s a big question maybe send me a instagram message and we can chat!

[@henriktyvi1116]

Is there a mullet bosch bike with a short < 442 chainstay?

[@SamsBikes]

Check my bike finder on samsbikes.net

[@henriktyvi1116]

@@SamsBikes so no?

[@msjj000]

Hi Sam, would you say the rail is an equivalent?

[@SamsBikes]

It’s similar I feel the Wild has the edge now

[@Tony_Karzen]

how much weight did you add to the total with your hand on the bars???

[@SamsBikes]

Sorry I’ll try hard next time

[@Tony_Karzen]

@@SamsBikes still like to know that weight without interference if you get a chance. 🙏🙏

[@SamsBikes]

@ZGexpat oh your serious 🧐 mate it’s what I said it was I measured it three times just for you

[@baddevotions]

how tall are you? curious to know how the Large fits for your height.

[@SamsBikes]

It’s in the video but I’m 183cm and the large was a great fit for me

[@baddevotions]

@@SamsBikes must have missed that! I’m 186 so not far off you. I am thinking the large will be good for me 🤔

[@kevorourke1]

Great review 👍🏼 Tempted with the M10 version but want to know the weight before pulling the trigger

[@SamsBikes]

Thanks bro it’s a beast of a ebike

[@ceriway380]

About removable battery why didn't orbea angle the motor more so the battery could come out of the bottom like Whyte bikes .but still a great bike.

[@SamsBikes]

Because it’s super ugly and makes the bb sick out and easy to hit rocks

[@paulmaag6958]

Needs downhill max grip tires or Schwalbe as stated in the video. Tires do not match that bikes capabilities.

[@Todd66]

I love that bike…full power, big travel. Hate the price LOL

[@SamsBikes]

Yep but in 2023 that’s what a good ebikes costs unfortunately

[@stevenschiff808]

Will the quadlock hold my I pad on my ebike?

[@SamsBikes]

Haha maybe but not on DH runs

[@user-mk8wd8qw9k]

Wild climbs way more stable and capable of steeper climbs than any rise I've ridden in my opinion that is !

[@wiesesascha]

It's shit when you can not put the battery out. How do you charge when you are on vacation in different hotels? With batery It's harder to put the bike on a car roof.

[@felipecamargo7890]

After about 3 years the last Keurig stopped working kzbin.infoUgkxBrV-RbF5Nk0Rlt9i15aao-YMzqzTG8Vf initially was able to unblock, however eventually we couldn't fix. That one was a replacement unit sent by the manufacturer after we had problems with our very first Keurig. This works fine (lol, at least for now) however I didn't realize the water reservoir was so much smaller than our prior unit. With 2 people having one or two cups of coffee each morning, it seems like I'm refilling it daily. Otherwise just happy to have the convenience of pod coffee vs. making a morning pot.

[@emergingit]

Removable battery not and issue for me. A Bosch 6 amp charger will juice her up again in no time. Stiffer and lighter frame is better than removable battery IMO

[@angeldeniarangel2786]

Hello!!!!!! Hola está chula, pero justamente hoy estaba viendo la ibis osso y esa bici si es bonita pero bonita de verdad,no sé cómo funcionará pero no se puede comparar.un saludo ,ciao

[@jeremyknoebel226]

i feel like people should know that a large mteam wild with pedals is 52 lbs. not really a lightweight emtb

[@johns9974]

Sam, really don't like the camera view, we cannot see where you are going! We are looking the the top tube. And it is not at all stabile .

[@SamsBikes]

Sorry John I’ll work on a new set up

[@cooleyballs1]

The 20kmh limit is a serious killer... you cant get near testing a bike to its limit. 10g to go 15mph..madness.

[@nyc863]

cant it be derestricted with a dongle?

[@ionut.h]

Orbea advertises that they went for a non removable battery to improve stiffness. I don't buy that. If they would have flipped the motor like other manufactures do (Specialized, Canyon), they would have kept the stiffness and allow also the battery to be removed. Maybe it's worth asking them this question Sam. Also the alloy models which most regular people would have gone for, weigh 25kg and above.

[@CarlosAntunesMTB]

Thank God they didn't flip it... I have enough ugly bikes in my garage with that specialized levo 2022. 😅

[@22Jeffers]

Mammoooooth? 😂

[@siriosstar4789]

Not being able to easily take the battery out would be a deal breaker for me. i bring my batteries in the house for the cold winters .Other than the battery issue , super nice bike .

[@s13kuminachu]

Silly reasoning. Batteries store better cold. The more you know!

[@siriosstar4789]

yeah i'll believe the numerous articles i've read to the contrary. new studies have shown damage to LI batteries when exposed to sub freezing temps. the instructions that come with my bike sat to store the battery form 32 Degrees F, to 80 d Fahrenheit so since my garage sometimes. dips below freezing , i choose to follow the manufacture rather than some smart ass on youtube .

[@s13kuminachu]

@Sirios Star so sirios..... ha. Nice resorting to name calling. Batteries store better down to certain temps for sure. If your below freezing I wouldn't recommend it. You didn't specify freezing temps were your reasoning. Please continue interneting without resorting to childish name calling.

[@SamsBikes]

Yep mate I think Orbea know this won’t be perfect for everyone I personally rather it making the frame stiffer and no battery movement noises

[@siriosstar4789]

you make an excellent point ,as i also charge my battery on the bike . however i do sometimes take my battery into a store and that has to be quick and easy . as usual great video.

[@tromansn]

Sounds nice, however pointless if you can’t bang a spare battery in the wild, in the wild!

[@SamsBikes]

Yep Orbea know it’s not perfect for everyone for me I think it’s perfectly fine for my style of riding

[@tromansn]

@@SamsBikes I’m just spoilt 😉 with a Lev G3 🥰 & a spare 500w 💥miles of smiles 😁, keep up the great work Samuel 👊🏻 (can’t wait for the LevSL G2 launch & your review buddy, wondering if the mods will reduce the awesome mileage of G1)

[@Adamleighjones]

So biased to his sponsor schwalbe.. the maxxis rubbers are spot on

[@SamsBikes]

You don’t know your rubber mate! These were ext max terra on the front and back! Nothing from with Maxxis but this tire selection on this bike was terrible

[@jonnycash4608]

The Camera you used for the trail video is a shit. It cannot handle vibrations, you get full blurr, light -shadow changes are bloody slow giving over/underexposure for at least few seconds, till it adapts. Hope it was not your Insta 360

[@SamsBikes]

Sorry you don’t like the camera I’ll try better next time

[@antoncvelbar6297]

I bet you can make it 19kg

[@SamsBikes]

Yep maybe 🤔

[@larsreiles3633]

How can this be a race bike when you seem to need 1-2 mechanics to disassemble the bike for a battery change in order to complete a normal race day... ? 😮😂 Total fail.

[@SamsBikes]

Well it’s clearly only for professional races but Orbea said they are going to be racing it this year.

[@czthor1]

Please concentrate on bike the average person can buy 9000 euros is like 12k or 15k U.S.? that's half the cost with tax credits of a Tesla, or we could buy a E motorcycle....if we were rich...stick with the best budget bikes.... that can do this or that...

[@QuangNguyen-iz3kg]

This model is $9,600 in the U.S. The lower end models are around $7k. It makes sense in my mind for testers to test the higher models to me. The main difference between bikes is the frame geo, suspension kinematics, and balance. Experienced riders will usually understand how the lower specs will effect the bike. Newer riders with less knowledge and experience probably wouldn't feel the difference as much to see that the higher prices of the higher spec would be worth it or not.

[@rickywoods3101]

I disagree, I like the higher end reviews also . Never understood why people complain about bikes they can't afford.. lol just don't watch the review if you don't want too

[@ducatilove11]

Why dont you do a review of Walmart bikes instead? 😂

[@richarde1355]

If his reviews don’t work fit you, there are plenty of other options for you here on KZbin.

[@rocktv143]

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