Orbea Wild FS - How long does the battery last?

This is without a doubt the question I get asked the most about my e-bike, so in the name of pseudo science. I'm going to try and answer that question by performing a range test to see how far the Bosch Performance CX Motor can take me until the battery dies.
#emtb #boschperformancecx #batteryrange

[@adrianhydephotography]

Another fantastic video and very interesting. So well filmed and edited you keep the story going. It’s very addictive. I can really see the benefits of an ebike it open up so much more of the mountain and in turn your hobby.

[@TrailTrackerSwitzerland]

Thanks Adrian.

[@jbonexc1725]

Possibly my first e-beke. Great vid and Subbed.

[@TrailTrackerSwitzerland]

Welcome aboard! It's certainly a great bike. I hoping to publish a 3 month review soon, so keep an eye out.

[@MTBMOR]

Same here. I plan on getting one for my wife, but there are a few places I will use the bike. I'm considering the dual battery set-up

[@playmaker1011]

Thank you my virtual Switzerland friend, your videos are really helpful and enjoyable. Cheers from Spain!

[@TrailTrackerSwitzerland]

You are most welcome, Glad you like them!

[@marcf6273]

Thanks mate for the excellent videos which helped me a lot for my decission. I wasn't sure about the 'small' battery aso but you convinced me to go for the a wild FS. Will pick it up Thursday ;-) Cheers ! (and stay safe)

[@TrailTrackerSwitzerland]

Thanks Marc. I’m sure you’ll love it!

[@JoshuaDomoslai]

Damn that impressive. 34.4 miles on a basic mode..I’m kinda sad I didn’t save a little more and get an e-bike. I’m out of shape and hate uphills. All the trails in California where I’m at have an uphill to get where you wanna ride. I did recently get a nice enduro style bike last week (Scor 4060 lt) I guess I’ll just upgrade next year or so, maybe these style ebikes will get even better in 2023 or 2024

[@TrailTrackerSwitzerland]

Thanks Josh. If you are lighter than me (220 lbs in full kit and with backpack), you'd get even further on a single charge, and with the new generation of bikes coming with even larger batteries, range is only set to increase. Things are definitely looking up for the future 😎

[@bearlabrador2018]

Great review, this looks like the ideal e bike. I’m looking for one for my wife early next year, and I plan on getting one the year after. I ride an Orbea Occam, great bikes and this looks like a brilliant piece of kit, the Bosch motor seems to be about the best you can get and that range is superb. Had no idea you could cover so much ground on a charge. Oh, and stunning area where you live! Cheers, and subscribed.

[@TrailTrackerSwitzerland]

Thanks for the support and the subscribe. The Bosch motor is indeed fantastic, with a little bit of battery management, I’m sure you get even more range. I’m hoping to get my hands on some bikes with other motors in the coming year to do a comparison, so keep an eye out.

[@danielekirylo]

Nice one. I am planning to buy an EMTB and was considering the Orbea, alternatively the Focus SAM2. Scott & Cube have some nice bikes also, the problem is finding stock. I am also living in Switzerland, but now on the french speaking side, but nice to see those Swiss trails from your channel.

[@TrailTrackerSwitzerland]

Thank you commenting. There are so many great emtbs to choose from at the moment. If only supply could keep up with demand. I had to wait quite a few months for mine to arrive as well!

[@TProStudioCreate]

Just like the enrgizer bunny, it just keeps on going. Nice informative video man. I can’t believe how long those e bikes last for

[@TrailTrackerSwitzerland]

E bikes just keep getting better and better. Imagine where they’ll be in 10 years time.

[@yetti423]

Have just done a test on a bosch system. The ride 34 miles along canal rising 600 ft then 15 in steep hills.Im 107 kg kitted and fit. In eco my forecast (using the remaining battery percentage) is 88 to 96 miles over 6 rides. I can ride on the flat just above support. My friend used it for the same ride flicking between modes. He is less fit and had not rode for 6 months, his projection was 55 miles total and he is 70kg. If your worrying over range just turn the battery off and take your time, you soon get used to the slightly slower pace, then even eco feels good when it starts steepening. Bikes an fs on standard tyres with 30 rear and 23 front (approx) Hope this helps, really enjoyed vid.....oh and with range extender i'd love to try and max it, but if it takes between 155 and 170 (prob 20 to 30 less as legs tire) to drain it that will be a long day...and a very sore bum!

[@TrailTrackerSwitzerland]

Thanks for commenting. It’s always interesting to hear experiences of others.Now I’m used to the characteristics of the bike, I’ve become pretty good at managing power usage to get the most out of the battery.

[@yetti423]

@@TrailTrackerSwitzerland no problem seen this vid before comitting to a unit myself so thanks for posting.

[@ElectricMountainBiker]

That is impressive! Cannkt believe how far it got considering no real battery mgmt 👍🏼 good video mate, enjoyed the content

[@TrailTrackerSwitzerland]

Thanks mate. The new generation of motors and batteries are certainly really impressive.

[@ElectricMountainBiker]

@@TrailTrackerSwitzerland certainly did not expect all that distance for sure

[@gavindean]

What a great-looking tour nice test!👍

[@TrailTrackerSwitzerland]

I'm looking forward to being able to hit that one up again this summer. Glad you liked it.

[@edgarpadron9406]

Awesome video Can’t wait to receive my wild fs H20 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽

[@TrailTrackerSwitzerland]

Thank you. Exciting times! As you can see from my videos, many adventures await!

[@jonnyherley4458]

Great video. Only question I have is it very difficult to ride (pedal) when the battery has totally given up?

[@TrailTrackerSwitzerland]

Thanks. Let’s put it this way. I wouldn’t choose to ride it without a battery, but if I had to to get home I could.

[@davidbautista351]

Great vid mate! Just a couple of questions, did you recorded the ride entirely with emtb mode? I own an Orbea Wild since 2 months ago and I found the emtb mode delivers so much power and also consumes a lot more battery than combining eco and tour mode. I stick to eco and swich to tour mode in the steeper climbs , I usually end using eco 80% of the ride and tour 20%. If you have the chance, may be doing another test combining eco+tour would be a good idea.

[@TrailTrackerSwitzerland]

Thank you so much. i hope you're enjoying your Wild FS. I rode the whole video in tour mode, only using emtb when it was absolutely necessary for steep tech climbs, since I felt that is how people are mostly likely to use the bike. I'll be honest, I only ever use eco, if I think I'm going to run out of battery because I feel at that speed, I could just as easily ride my acoustic bike.

[@yourmtblocal]

Great edit! Interesting stuff! I found emtb mode uses almost as much as turbo so on a full days ride I stick to eco and tour. Have you had the software upgrade yet?

[@TrailTrackerSwitzerland]

Thanks! I’ve had the upgrade that releases 75Nm. I’ll probably go for the 85Nm one this summer as well, even though I’m not convinced I need it. The only way I can see to save battery with emtb mode is to select a low gear and purposefully not put down too much power. So you may as well stick to tour, which provides plenty of assistance.

[@yourmtblocal]

Oh I didn't realize there was two upgrades I must of had the 75nm upgrade cause I thought tour didn't pull as strong and turbo was just as strong but kickers in slower. Not sure I'm making it up though lol so won't be doing a video on it.

[@yourmtblocal]

I only use emtb mode if I'm staying local and won't be long.

[@TrailTrackerSwitzerland]

I read that there was a new one due this summer that could be applied to 2020 motors.

[@yourmtblocal]

@@TrailTrackerSwitzerland Oh sweet will have to get that then! Cause I swear it ain't as good now I've had this new upgrade.

[@grahamlush8185]

Hi, great video. Just wondering would you know the weight of your Orbea as I’m thinking of buying one next week. Thanks

[@TrailTrackerSwitzerland]

Thanks. I’m not sure exactly how heavy it is. I’d guess it’s somewhere around 23kg.

[@grahamlush8185]

@@TrailTrackerSwitzerland Thanks for that. My decision is caught between a Orbea Rise and that of a Wild. Would you have any suggestions?

[@TrailTrackerSwitzerland]

@@grahamlush8185 They’re two quite different beasts. Perhaps this video might help kzbin.info/www/bejne/oKC1g6doZ9h_qKM

[@NahkeaTaata]

Great video, really impressive! Thank you. Curious how you feel about the bike and brand Orbea? Anything negative about warranty or service or such? Thinking about getting Wild FS and it really seems like top pick.

[@TrailTrackerSwitzerland]

Thank you. Glad you liked it. So far so good. I’ve ridden a couple of Orbeas and know others who ride them as well, so I wouldn’t be concerned about the brand itself. I’ve been out doing quite a bit of testing, so watch out for the videos in the coming weeks for more updates.

[@NahkeaTaata]

@@TrailTrackerSwitzerland Thanks! I will keep my eyes open 🙂 If I read right you are also impressed with the Wild FS itself, too?

[@TrailTrackerSwitzerland]

So far, I’m very pleased with it.

[@TheWeardale1]

brilliant video(s) - i'm looking to buy an emtb...most likely a hardtail for the kind of riding i do (trails, and no many jumps) - and looking at the canyon - grand canyon on 9, and the orbea wild ht 20...both have decent spec, but not sure which one to buy...

[@TrailTrackerSwitzerland]

Thank you so much for the support. The choice of ebikes is growing constantly, meaning the decision is unlikely to get any easier. I am in discussions to test quite few different ebikes this year (including hard tails hopefully), so keep an eye out and perhaps I can help you a bit with your decision.

[@cybereye2]

That's very impressive!

[@TrailTrackerSwitzerland]

With very minimal battery management it is possible to do some really big tours with this battery and motor combo.

[@cybereye2]

@@TrailTrackerSwitzerland I'm considering buying one and your video is a big plus in my choice. Ty.

[@TrailTrackerSwitzerland]

I think it’s probably the most reliable battery and motor combo at the moment, but I would encourage you to test ride bikes if at all possible to make sure you end up with something that really suits you. The one thing I would say about the Wild is that it is a monster truck that really comes alive when things get fast and chunky.

[@petermcallister4128]

Hi im in the process of ordering the wild fs i am 170cm do you think the large woyld be ok as the s/m they do is smaller than my trail bike Merida 160 in medium i would like to hear what you would suggest. My merida 160 is a 27.5 none ebike and the wild fs will be my first 29r.

[@TrailTrackerSwitzerland]

It’s hard for me to comment on the exact size that would fit you. But what I can say is that at 187cm, I fall right on the borderline between L and XL for most bikes. In the end I went for the XL Wild FS because the reach felt too short on the L. Ideally, you need to be able to at least sit on one before ordering though.

[@petermcallister4128]

@@TrailTrackerSwitzerland Thank you im goung to my lical bike shop to sit on the large and see how it feels ive got till nxt spring to wait for my 2022 bike so ive got the time to gey the fit right. Keep bringing out the great videos they are really good and greay to watch👍

[@TrailTrackerSwitzerland]

@@petermcallister4128 sounds like a good plan. Thanks for the support.

[@MTBMOR]

@@petermcallister4128 Did you go with the s/m?

[@n31lrc]

Where is the film shot? Nice bike I want one….

[@TrailTrackerSwitzerland]

Thanks for commenting. The video is shot on my home trials in Switzerland 🇨🇭

[@Mulberry2000]

Good video but does draining your battery damage it?

[@TrailTrackerSwitzerland]

I don’t think it should be a problem. Leaving it plugged in to charge is apparently very bad for it though.

[@gesmondfarrugia1109]

When you use the until it is fully drained, you are asking for trouble.

[@TrailTrackerSwitzerland]

Thankfully I don’t seemed to have caused any problems. It was only once and everything is still working perfectly. Good to know though.

[@javelin88LIVE]

What model of Wild FS? 👍

[@TrailTrackerSwitzerland]

M-Team

[@mr.kneeslider]

Well... pretty most of what you said about tires is just wrong... lower pressure gives you more grip... also less rolling resistance on trails. High pressure on MTB tires just the worst thing for rolling resistance.

[@TrailTrackerSwitzerland]

I stand corrected! It seems that this is a very complicated topic with a large number of variables at play that mean minimal rolling resistance is all about finding a happy medium between too hard or too soft depending on the conditions you are riding in.

[@mr.kneeslider]

@@TrailTrackerSwitzerland To be honest, the rolling resistance on an e-bike is kind of... how cares to be honest, but the tire pressure plays a big part in grip, I run for example Tubeless with around 1.3 bar in the front, and 1.7 in the rear. By the way, wheres "home"

[@TrailTrackerSwitzerland]

@@mr.kneeslider Home is in the land of cheese and chocolate - Switzerland 🇨🇭 About 40mins from Zurich.

[@mr.kneeslider]

@@TrailTrackerSwitzerland Cool, greatings from Southern Germany... another ex-pat..

[@ianmangham4570]

Paradise Switzerland 🇨🇭

[@TrailTrackerSwitzerland]

It certainly is. Thanks for commenting!

[@ianmangham4570]

That's a long way

[@TrailTrackerSwitzerland]

I was glad I didn’t have to ride the bike up a big hill at the end.

[@DaveWorld]

my levo does anything from 10 miles to 63 miles

[@TrailTrackerSwitzerland]

There are a huge number of variables at play that can affect range. The biggest 2 in my experience are the mode you ride in and the amount of climbing you do.