Orient Kamasu II - the BEST diver under $300??!

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Today we are reviewing the latest generation of the Orient Kamasu, a more premium variant of the Orient Mako and Orient Ray! The reference numver is: RA-AA0811E19B
While Mako has an original design like the first Kamasu, this second generation has a more traditional look, just like the Ray, but with the upgrades seen on the first Kamasu, a sapphire crystal and a easier to grip bezel.
The movement F6922 is still the same as well as the case and bracelet.
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[@tsibren]

I absolutely fell in love with this watch thanks to your video. Can't wait to get one.

[@d7r_tv]

I'm not a fan of divers. But this is a damn pretty one. Just ordered one based on this review. Green/Dark gradient works so well.

[@TheeMisterspain]

I bought a ray 2 about a month ago. Wish I had waited for this now. Looks like it has the looks of the ray with the advantages of the original kamasu. Great review

[@osyisr6361]

You still got a good deal with the cost.

[@TheeMisterspain]

@@osyisr6361 yeah about 100- 120 pound more for the kamasu 2 here in the UK. The ray 2 was a bit of a steal at £129. Its a great watch but this looks worth the bit extra

[@victorshikhman]

@@TheeMisterspain wait until prices on this gen 2 kamasu come down, maybe 6-9 months, then flip the watch you have on ebay and get it. but whatever you do, enjoy the watch you have. if you start up envying other watches, the next level up is the least of your problems.

[@DefNotABotBeepBoop]

Honestly the ray 2 looks better. I just bought this and it's just OK. It feels kinda light for my taste. I would suggest anybody spend a little more and just get a seiko mini turtle

[@macfl3594]

I simply love the look of this Orient.Love the dial and everything.It's simplu perfect and a lost better choice over any Seiko in this price range and mutch more.Great review :)

[@baroquer]

Petrol green is my favourite colour...and this ORI is my MUST-HAVE 😍🥰

[@brunolang210]

I also noticed they gave it a brushed side with a polished bevel, while the gen 1 has completely polished sides with no bevel

[@clontstable1]

I just got mine a few days ago, and even though the design is very close to that of my Davosa, Ternos, which in turn is very close to the design of the Rolex Submariner, I’m really smitten with this timepiece; the dial is simply amazing!

[@SuchaJerkCustomLures]

Thanks for this video. I was just planing to buy it in that colour scheme and now I'm definitely convinced this is the best one from the lineup. Buying it tomorrow

[@haziqmazlan4331]

How was it? I'm thinking of buying one too

[@SuchaJerkCustomLures]

@@haziqmazlan4331 it's amazing 😍 I decided to buy the two shades of grey 🩶🖤 in the end, as would be more universal to match many clothes styles. It looks way above its price tag, spotless finish, even under a magnifying glass there is not a single imperfection. Definitely recommend to buy 😉

[@boxingfan5742]

I really hope they improved/added to the number of threads on the screw-down crown. I got the Kamasu when they first came out and I think it's not even two full threads, and quite difficult to get those two threads started. Nice watch but I wear my Mako II as my daily just because I don't want to deal with that on the Kamasu. Love this dial though.

[@clontstable1]

I’m really enjoying my Kamasu II. I didn’t mind the original bracelet, but decided to upgrade to the solid end link offering from Island Watch.

[@badgolim]

Have now exactly the same and I love it 🥰

[@OhNellly]

Yes this video was very helpful. I over looked this watch to be a Ray. Thank you

[@wj6782]

Like the 2nd Gen Kamasu... Especially this colorway. It's on my list, as well as a new band along with it

[@ajh5124]

Great review as always 👍

[@hdmedia7404]

Are there any chaptering misalignement issues like on Seiko divers?

[@computeruser1626]

The macro shots look incredible!!!

[@WatchGeek]

Thanks and yup, it seems to be very well finished

[@PineapplePizza1]

I bought this one as soon as I saw it released. The teal dial is perfect imo because it can be worn with both green and blue NATO straps without clashing.

[@ariatamanaei9141]

Is the color of the dial just like the one shown in this video? Or the color comes a different, due to it being filmed and seen from a screen?

[@PineapplePizza1]

@@ariatamanaei9141 Good question. I would say in every day lighting it runs a little bit darker than as shown in the video. On a sunny day it will look teal, but in the evening I would say it wears closer to black.

[@ariatamanaei9141]

Thanks for the reply. So as I understood, it usually appears darker, and in daylight it is closer to what shown in the video. Right?

[@PineapplePizza1]

@@ariatamanaei9141 You're right. I should add that, on the opposite side of the spectrum, the rotating bezel pops much more in the videos. In photos of myself with watch, I find I'm most impressed with how much the bottlecap shape adds to color and catch of the watch.

[@ariatamanaei9141]

So the blue/green section of the bezel looks brighter in the video and pictures compared to real life and everyday lighting?

[@minnkonamike6658]

Love um, Have the gray on the way!! Will be my 6th Orient.

[@Mufasa_GSD]

have you noticed the lume on some of the indicies is not completely full? on mine i have some black spots/missing. very very small.

[@sanguin3]

I wish they would release another version that features the look of the original Kamasu with the rectangular indices and little dots on its bezel.

[@thodorissaritziotis3306]

Beautiful watch! 😍

[@victorshikhman]

If you haven't gotten a Kamasu yet, this is a great time. You can find third party bezels and several metal bracelet options made specifically for this watch. I've had a blue gen 1 for a year, and it has been flawless. I hope for gen 3 they upgrade the stock bezel and bracelet, but again, there are aftermarket options. The real bump, for me, would be increasing the energy storage to 60 or 80 hours. 40 hours realistically means you have to wear it every other day, or else go through the hassle of setting it up again - not great for someone wanting to expand and wear their watches. Tissot can do it, why not Orient, and it would be a huge differentiator from other brands.

[@DD-ix3bm]

Victor.....have you found anyone that sells jsut the bezel inserts?

[@victorshikhman]

@@DD-ix3bm longislandwatch sells compatible bezels, and then you have access to a massive line of ceramic and sapphire inserts that fit. no one that I know of sells Orient's notched-tooth bezels. Look for videos from Marc at Longislandwatch where he shows how to remove the stock bezel and install a third party.

[@dubester1982]

No doubt on the power reserve. Imagine being able to palm a basketball and having to deal with that crown with any real regularity. It's not amazing, although the watch sure is. I have this exact watch BTW

[@angelosantos5160]

Just love it 💪

[@namduonghoang2931]

bought this and replaced the bracelet with one of Jubilee style. Perfection for me!

[@ryanpeck3377]

I prefer the older version, For me its the rectangular markers....these indicies just scream submariner homage to me....I do like the dial texture and fumé color gradients though. Hope V3 keeps the Fumé and texture but goes back to rectangular markers

[@wongpandai]

round marker isnt exclusive to rolex, this look more clean and have better legibility than rectangular marker

[@joelf5565]

I hear the glare is bad with the sapphire having no AR. Any comments on that? I currently have the Ray 2 and that mineral crystal scratches too easily so looking to upgrade to a sapphire but am I just swapping out scratches for a glare?

[@DarkyMoto]

Can’t find it in the Philippines. Absolutely love this watch. What a looker!

[@happywanderer5632]

I prefer the Mako XL, but the Komatsu is very nice!

[@neoroxx]

i prefer the older version compared to this before I saw the real thing. however when i tried both in person and comparing them side by side, I like this more and ended up picking it up

[@andreijochim751]

Just bought the same!🤗 For those money perfect!👍

[@ErnestoJSilva]

I like this version better because the bezel looks less crowded, the circles more elegant, and the two tone bezel places an emphasis on actually using the bezel as a timer from time to time.

[@KARLOS04]

I bought mine and it came in a different solid black box with an opening front, could they be fake?

[@kevorknourian5442]

I love the dial

[@rosariozampella6498]

Hi, i own First generation of Kamasu, and i can Say it is a great watch In its price range

[@Im_to_james]

Awesome Video, you gained a Sub

[@macky181]

What color way is this? as someone who's ted and green color blind I hate seeing a watch on KZbin then trying to match it in the watch website. Cheers

[@Luca-pg5mj]

How do you think it fits on a 16cm wrist? it's big?

[@vipnetworker]

Beautiful watch.

[@tommyxavier685]

bought this in the green color and the Pepsi color. Yeah I know I could have bought one of something more expensive, but I'd rather have them both. Have an oyster and jubilee bracelet which i interchange acorss both depending on how i feel and highly recommend switching out the original bracelet. That takes it up a notch

[@thewatchexplorer2244]

That's a beautiful watch

[@dourmoose]

That’s a good looking watch.

[@Jidccruz]

Thank you for this video! I've watched it several times as i was looking to buy my first ever automatic watch. I ended up getting the same colorway as yours, and I love it. One quick question tho, mine says "JAPAN" only on the lower part but yours says "Mov't JAPAN". I got mine from the official distributor here in Dubai. Is there any difference between the two?

[@WatchGeek]

Yours is probably made in Japan, while mine only has the movement made in Japan, but I could be wrong. Oh and congrats on getting a beautiful watch!!

[@SrajanMishra89]

I have been doing the same as you. Just been watching this (and other vids on the Kamasu 2) over and over. They're just great value for money. Btw - I am also based in Dubai and interacted with the distributor you probably dealt with. Not sure what deal they gave you but first they quoted me 1800AED (which is a rip off). When I enquired further as to why the prices are so hiked up in UAE..they said it's actually 1200AED (after mentioning some "discount"). Interestingly, ordering from Amazon US (including import duties) is 880AED which is a steal. Just thought you should know.

[@BlackBullPistol]

Ok I have to be honest I fell in love with the 1st gen Kamasu because of it's own style. I have mixed feelings about this 2nd gen, it's still a very pretty watch because of the improved green dial but it resembles too much to a Submariner. Now I've saw the new (probably) 3rd gen and it's jaw dropping. The number is RA-AA0818L and they went back to the old dial with added 12, 6 and 9 hour arabic numerals, the hour hand is now the same style as the minute one and the second hand is colored like the 1st gen was. I want to get one now I'm torn between the gen 1 and gen 3 :-I

[@shakilde]

RA-AA0818L is with kamasu case with mako dial. But I still prefer 1st Gen Kamasu on red dial.

[@williamg7138]

This is the one to get

[@HollyBilal]

Why Japan isn’t written on bottom of dial?

[@bmwforlife6951]

Sir, your voice sounds very cool! I bet you can use your voice as a voice actor!

[@frs9262]

I just received the reissue of the Mako 2 from Orient USA which was only available for a few hours. The watch is beautiful and the crown is unusable. It was screwed down so tight it was impossible to move. The crown was impossible to grip. Incredible they would not fix this on a special reissue. I sent it back same day. Is the crown on this new Kamasu any better?

[@WatchGeek]

Never had any trouble with crowns on Orient watches

[@frs9262]

I called Orient USA and they told me the recent sale of the Mako 2 was new old stock, not a reissue. That explains the hard to grip crown but not screwing it down so tight along with a slippery crown made it not useable.

[@n.nowgorodl.gusakow5812]

I've first Kamasu , nice watch

[@Amin_2k]

I prefer the original version, it was more original... But this one is great as well!

[@andrewchong79]

Is the crown the same size as the first kamasu?

[@danijelmadzar3832]

Yes,crown,bezel,bracelet,caliber...

[@shinraorg]

wonderful watch, just sucks that the lume sucks compared to the Ray-2. The Ray-2 has phenomenal lume and that because its way cheaper.

[@frankjager2420]

Ive never worn a watch in my entire life. I have no fashion sense. I just wear black tshirts or black hoodies with jeans. Ive always found watches like these really attractive. I would like to buy one, with an emerald green shade if not darker. I call it blue collar bling because its an affordable luxury watch without the Rolex prices. Do I have to dress nice for it? I like to be subtle when I go out, and I feel darker greens is a subtle color. PS Im mid 40s that enjoys being invisible. But I do have an honest question. Those kind of bands, do they pinch your skin or pull on your hairs?

[@mkke0760]

Does this watch have AR Coating ?

[@JR-gp2zk]

I have a Ray II and while I love the blue dial on that watch, I hate the bracelet. The hollow end links are very rattlely, but it was $110 when I bought it. I wish Orient would have upgraded the bracelet on this watch. +$300 for hollow end links and a pressed clasp is almost unacceptable these days.

[@victorshikhman]

There are incredible aftermarket bracelets made for the Kamasu, but they run $80-120. If you wait a few months until prices come down on this gen 2, it might make sense. Or get a gen 1 kamasu for $180-200 grey market.

[@WesWatchRoom]

Its an absolute stunner for sure but I wish they kept the gen 1 indices as these look too much like the ray so its not as unique anymore. Still a beaut though. Love the new dial colours and that finishing is spot on.

[@chrispekel5709]

So just buy the first gen?

[@Poldek.Misiak]

It's worth mentioning that the new Kamasu has brushed sides of the case and nice polished lines between brushing. The old Kamasu, on the other hand, has just all polished sides. I heard that the bezel of the new Kamasu is better to grip but I don't know if it's true. Orient will soon release a new color variant - dark red (such as in a limited version but with a steel case) and blue / gold (another limited edition).

[@Crimson_626]

They made the bezel a lot smoother, its easier to turn and its not stiff like the old Kamasu. The Grip is somewhat similar but it is a better Bezel than the Old Kamasu.

[@dave-ld8mo]

Orient just announced a third generation of Kamasus that feature a dial with arabic numbers. It comes in 4 different colours. My favourite is the one with a charcoal grey dial.

[@YouKnowMySteez]

Source?

[@dave-ld8mo]

@@YouKnowMySteez it was announced on the official orient global website last week.

[@YouKnowMySteez]

@@dave-ld8mo thanks. Just saw some pictures. I like the charcoal. The white dial one is interesting but I don’t like the bezel on it.

[@9426sunny]

I have 5 Orient watches(Mako2, Ray2, Kamasu red, Kamasu green, Kamasu 4) now. They are all great watches, but if you shake them left and right softly for more than 10 seconds, they all speed up for 4 ~ 5 seconds immediately. Also, they all speed up approximately 10 ~15 seconds after walking for 3 ~ 5km or exercise in gym) Since all of my 5 Orient watches and SKX007 are same, I think it's normal for them. Anybody has comment for this here?

[@roniprakoso1011]

Yes, you right. I have orient kamasu gen2 like this

[@zhizian]

@@roniprakoso1011 Gen 2 is sick. Vintage looking dial..... grey, blue, green, red. I think all of it is collectable. even the Limited edition ones better. 120 click bezel instead of the older gen 60 clicks.

[@RobQuigley]

This video and some others on KZbin show the day and date complication both in black. All the official product photos for the watch show a red color for the day. Why is that?

[@WatchGeek]

Usually only Sunday is red, Saturday blue, and the rest of the days are black

[@RobQuigley]

@@WatchGeek Interesting! Thank you for the reply!

[@Wireless_Gadgets]

Nice review, odd, the macro shots of the hour markers look cream color as described but they look poorly applied and have some stains. The hollow end link above the 12 o'clock position looks like there are gaps between the lugs (possible fitment issue). I have the Ray II and is good enough for me, I like it very much, thanks for the review!

[@WatchGeek]

Macro does show what you can't really see with your naked eye, so it appears perfect when worn

[@Ktrb]

I bought Ray2 for 150$ two years ago which is 95% the same experience. 375$ is scary close to Zelos or Phoibos.

[@DIYivan04]

$375? I got mine for $280

[@Ktrb]

@@DIYivan04 I refer to the price in the video. In Europe the price is close to 300$

[@victorshikhman]

You can pick up a gen 1 Kamasu blue with silicone strap on jomashop for $180-200, if you wait for a sale. I did. It happened maybe 2-3x in the last year.

[@DIYivan04]

@@Ktrb Ok but they don’t sell for that. You’re comparing them to Chinese made watches with NH35 movements that sell for nearly twice the price. Great watches, but not the same thing.

[@Ktrb]

@@DIYivan04 Is the Orient made in Japan? How the movement in Orient is better than nh35 used by microbrands?

[@stalkingwatcheschannel]

The plot will twist if they bring an update to the Ray2.

[@EXTRAEDC]

And i wondered why the old version is so discounted right now xD

[@gordanbabic8028]

the movement is the same as in my Mako II and I can testify it is rather inaccurate going + 20-30 seconds a day (which adds up to 2-3 minutes by the end of the week). the dial on this one is really beautiful though ...

[@RomanF3011]

Hello, my Mako II is about + 5-10 seconds a day. Maybe I was lucky.

[@gordanbabic8028]

@@RomanF3011 I could probabily have my Mako regulated ... but I lost interest in it for other reasons :) a bit too big for my wrist

[@grandpadale4026]

Why did they have to give it a 22mm lug…

[@timescribe1607]

I think the original Kamasu is iconic for Orient. This is a good looking watch, no doubt, but I don't really think it's an upgrade on the original.

[@KabobHope]

This is a confusing watch. In the Orient video it is called the "Kamasu" yet on the company website it is not shown with the Kamasu line. To add to the confusion some places label it as the "Kamasu Mako." These are beautiful, but Orient needs to be consistent and clear as to what this watch is. They would have been wiser to leave the dial design alone to continue with the success of the Kamasu and just change the colorways. Kamasu seems to actually refer to the case and notched bezel as dials can now have round or square markers. The case itself is smaller and more wearable than the Kanno.

[@gt2745]

Yep, Orient’s branding is a complete mess. It’s the weakest part of the company.

[@mattys1467]

Top watch. I have the limited edition version. Stunning

[@navboi12]

What model number is the limited edition?

[@mattys1467]

@@navboi12 RA-AA0813R19B

[@lionary]

Could not decide between the two, so I got both. 🙂

[@mattys1467]

@@lionary excellent 👌

[@DFlemming]

Pity that the crown is still too small and basically a pain to use. Get that crown sorted Orient please! Needs to be bigger. Thanks.

[@zamavee]

Submariner homage like ray 2 but with sapphire crystal

[@williamlane9844]

Nice watch, but it should have a ceramic insert,

[@victorshikhman]

you can get an aftermarket bezel made specifically for the Kamasu, with many insert options - ceramic and sapphire.

[@taoistgoth]

Shame they don't do this with the glorious red sunburst dial of the original Kamasu.

[@discountmorty213]

Should I even get this?Is like I been hearing the crown break off easily

[@shabrg64tngbd]

I just order Green

[@hypeninja4786]

"The price will hopefully even out in a year or two." Yeah, looks like inflation has nuked that possibility, given it's now at an MSRP of 570.

[@lk754]

I still prefer the older version, can't put my finger on why that is, though.

[@brunolang210]

For me its the unique markers that give it a sharper look

[@ryanpeck3377]

I prefer the older version, For me its the rectangular markers....these indicies just scream submariner homage to me....I do like the dial texture and fumé color gradients though. Hope V3 keeps the Fumé and texture but goes back to rectangular markers

[@brunolang210]

@@ryanpeck3377 that v3 description would be godly

[@kenn82draw]

👌

[@nickg2954]

Don't know why they can't taper there bracelets and make them 20 instead of 22

[@billj5645]

I like the Kano a lot better. The Kamasu has those funny looking indentations around the outside of the bezel like the Mako and Ray models did, and the hour hand is not a design that I like. Compared to the Kano the Kamasu is too small. I don't personally like that sunburst look of the dial but that's just me. The only positive of the Kamasu is its sapphire crystal.

[@stronman100]

Great content but your white Balance of the Video is to yellowish

[@arpandey7043]

Green dial or pepsi dial can't choose

[@vadimbogatov1168]

Hello ,what country are you from?

[@galacticcaveman4045]

This should be called the Ray III not the Kamasu II.

[@carllange3950]

I enjoy your reviews, but why are you calling this watch a Kamasu II? That would imply that it is a replacement for the Kamasu. That is unlikely. If you are going to make up model names, a more logical one might be Ray III. Orient (Japan) does not use these names. As far as I can tell, names were created by Orient Watch USA and they are apparently phasing out the practice. The watches that they used to call the Ray II, now have just the model number on their website.

[@lionary]

Per Epson, part of the "Kamasu series." kzbin.info/www/bejne/opKxZ56Xos2ijtE

[@carllange3950]

@@lionary Yes, part of the “Kamasu Series”, not Kamasu II. Note that at 5:39 in the linked video, the narrator explains that these are just nicknames, not official Orient designations.

[@lionary]

@@carllange3950 agreed

[@stavros_katsopr]

In my opinion, trying to go with the flow, just when you had your own personality makes you double wrong. And as we all know, two wrongs don't make a right but three rights make a left!!! 🤪 Pity Orient, wrong turn...

[@lionary]

Not sure what you're complaining about, isn't having more choices always better? The regular Kamasu is still there for purchase. This is just a variant of the Kamasu or the Ray. It's not a second generation of the Kamasu, as nothing was improved.

[@stavros_katsopr]

@@lionary Let me enlighten you. Both are still out there, Ray and Kamasu, plenty of them. Mixing the dials so you still have a Submarine alike in a way is wrong IMO. Even worse, i saw a vid of Orient, saying that they even tried to make lume and dial patina like a vintage watch would do. Guess which... If you're Orient and EVERYONE is praising you for the BEST branded diver around 200something whatevers, you grab the chance and go ahead, not back. Will sell for sure, but no evolution (as you said too, nothing was improved...). That's my point of view. Thanks mate, be well.

[@lionary]

@@stavros_katsopr I hear you. I too would have liked some improvements to the Kamasu, at the very least the hollow end links--Orient didn't seem to have a problem putting solid end links on the Orient Mako USA 2. So yes the current offering is disappointing from that standpoint. As for me personally, I happened to like the look of the original Ray when it came out years ago, but never went for it mostly because of the lack of sapphire crystal. So this was my opportunity, of sorts. (I also already have a couple Kamasus..) But I can see how this would be encouraging Orient's laziness. Cheers

[@kroon275]

Lovely face. But at same price as Zelos, there is only one you should have

[@josip4u]

A jbt, sad uz onog crvenog sad moram uzeti i ovaj zeleni

[@termit520]

that's not true... definitely... first reason is that a divers don't use a watch as a primary diving instrument like a last 100 years, and a second reason is that a Casio G Shock DW5600 exists... (which is 5-6 times cheaper and 5-6 times more accurate) Like fot Orient, but dislike for an inaccurate statements

[@lisamelting]

First

[@jonirwin7316]

Such a shame about those folded end links. And that bracelet is quite cheap. Hard pass on this one. No real value from Orient on this one.

[@victorshikhman]

You can pick up a grey market gen 1 kamasu for $180-200 with a silicone strap. Aftermarket bracelets and bezels are available for another $80-120.

[@nickharvie2252]

I just purchased the grey dial version. Unfortunately i'm not drinking the same Orient KoolAid as everyone else it seems. Terrible bracelet that is rattly and too wide/not enough taper, terrible tiny crown and gritty winding feel, terrible bezel action with heaps of backplay. A San Martin/Cronos from Aliexpress is far better built with better specs for the money.

[@Hyperborean_2]

This is Ray not Kamasu The Kamasu has sharp shapes on the dial.. like kamasu fish.. hence the nickname

[@dixonpinfold2582]

It's a made-in-China watch with a Japanese movement. Buy one if you want to cast a vote with your wallet to strengthen the regime there. Otherwise buy a watch made elsewhere (which might have a few China-made parts, but a couple of dollars and a couple of hundred dollars are not the same thing).

[@DefNotABotBeepBoop]

This watch is junk. Just bought it and just returned it. Cheap as hell. The bracelet is beyond shitty. Spend little more and get a seiko mini turtle

[@Luca-pg5mj]

How do you think it fits on a 16cm wrist? it's big?

[@WatchGeek]

I think you'll be fine