Orient Mako II Review : Perfectly Evolved (FAA02002D9)

[@RelativeTime]

Update on the so called Mako IIIs. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qH2adWqfqdyeiK8

[@markmatthias497]

I love my blue Mako! I spent several months researching my choice and often considered the SKX. But the Orient provided so much more value and style for the money. The Mako was my first diver and my first automatic. And it was the perfect choice!

[@AliveBread]

Same, few months back.. i was choosing my first diver between Mako 2 and the SKX. I bought Mako 2. Few month later i end up having 3 more Seiko namely Jade Monster, Batman Turtle, Red 5KX

[@opticwiddly5263]

Just got my Mako2 yesterday its awesome feels like I heavy brick on my wrist

[@Niamhcotts]

I totally agree.

[@leemoore9933]

Ditto....

[@andromedagodit2492]

Totally! 😁 Lourve the functionality n the way it's great for a dress watch too... That blue sunburst... 😁

[@simoninglis7437]

Your videos are really great. A calm voice of friendly civility discussing a dignified and absorbing hobby, in a world with an excess of irrationality, chaos and distress. Even though I am seeing this one 2 years after you made it, it is still a pleasure to watch. Despite my favourite pool being shut down, and the beach still a bit chilly, I am thinking of getting one of the Orient Divers. I totally agree, the explorer -esque dial is really good and very clear.

[@RelativeTime]

Wow, thank you! Unfortunately all our pools are shut down as well. Personally I've come to like Orient's Kamasu better, but the mako is hard to beat for the price. It's also one of the few dive watches to have a dial like that.

[@aureloprisan8960]

Using Orient all my life (since 14), simply perfect and beautiful.

[@SSvolksgrenadier]

Only retired my mako I after 7 years, no service because even after bicycle accident it was a bit scratched up but it worked fine, alas I lost the pin in the pool as the cheap band has worn over time....so new complete band required or I just buy the new model for similar price which is what I ended up doing. Great watches, except I thought the black one was just as nice and it's not so now I have two Mako II models one blue for everyday and one black for backup or whatever.

[@WatchGeek]

One of my favorite versions 😁👍

[@Muhilica]

Your video made me finally buy the watch recently and it is an amazing piece indeed. One thing I will add to the review is that legibility is amazing. Usually I need a few moments to read time from my watches (sometimes more, especially if someone asks me the time), but with the Mako II it is an instantaneous and natural thing.

[@JurgenADV]

Also picked up a blue one on the MassDrop. Yep, just a fine all around watch. I like watches with a mix of Arabics and other indices. I’ve received several compliments on it. Was the first Automatic I paid for-- but an Amazon’d Seiko beat it to my wrist. Thanks- wore mine today as I saw you had done a review.

[@RelativeTime]

Nice! Hard to beat Massdrop. These seem to pop up frequently. Which seiko beat it to your wrist?

[@Brian-b8r]

I got the Mako 2 Pepsi. Upgraded the strap too. I wish I had the Mako 2 blue. Here begins my obsession.

[@ukrainefan4889]

I love my Mako 2 , managed to pick a modded one (new sapphire glass , coin edge bezel and nice black ceramic insert) for less the half price of a used SKX , runs +5/6spd , such good value ...... The watch that started the journey

[@RelativeTime]

That's awesome, and excellent accuracy. I know everyone loves the SKX, but with Orient around it's pretty hard to justify.

[@alexpaulino2810]

I bought one and you were right about the dial, it's really eye catching. I love it, compared to my SKX007, I enjoyed its hand winding and hackable seconds hand.

[@RelativeTime]

It's a little more elegant than the more tool watchy SKX.

[@d3xmeister]

The Mako 3 is already out. Apparently there will be no Ray, just 3 higher end Mako with sapphire, and 2 lower end Mako a bit bigger and mineral

[@RelativeTime]

Well that would explain why I've seen some that are cheaper and a few that are 2x as much. I might email Orient USA here just to see what they say.

[@FireFr0ggy]

@Mihai Pascu @Relative Time The "lower end Mako" is actually the Ray 3. I'm actually disappointed. The Mako lost it's "look". And the Ray 3 looks better but does not come with a sapphire glass and is much larger, a 44mm. conteenium.com/product/orient-ray-3-blue-ra-aa009l/ conteenium.com/product/orient-mako-3-blue-ra-aa0002l/

[@RelativeTime]

Kaiyznn I emailed orients USA website asking them if they know anything. If I get a reply with any real info I’ll make a quick video. Maybe clear up some confusion. But I’m half expecting a generic “Unless it’s listed on our site, we don’t know anything about it” response.

[@LordArioh]

@@FireFr0ggy I will so rock Ray 3 blue when I get my hands on one.

[@d3xmeister]

Relative Time It may be that the 3 versions are only JDM for now so Orient USA may not know. I actually like the Mako 3 a lot (the smaller version with sapphire) I just wished they had a white dial black bezel like the Mako USA 2

[@b.j.surfdog3724]

Great Video! appreciate your "scripted" approach, cuts way down on the Uh's , Um's etc. Stunning watch have one on order. Who's leather band were you showing this watch in?

[@ohhenry2]

I’ve got the Pepsi incoming. This video review makes me look forward that much more to its arrival! Thanks, Shane, for the review!

[@RelativeTime]

Thanks! Hope you enjoy it.

[@andyvu8513]

I just bought my first Orient and it’s this Mako II watch. I love arabic combo numbers in dials!! And the blue dial is beautiful. FedEx dropping it off today.

[@ATDStudios]

I picked up the black Mako II as my first automatic watch purchase (I inherited my dad's Breitling Avenger Seawolf Titanium so that's my first ever watch) and I absolutely love it. It looks cool and different enough from the usual Submariner homage divers to stand out from the crowd. Mine hovers somewhere around gaining ten seconds a day. I wear a different watch every day so I usually have to wind and set it once a week anyway. Other than the smoother sweeping motion and higher water resistance of the Breitling, the Mako II holds its own. If you put it in front of someone who was new to watches I don't think they'd be able to guess that they were in different price brackets. Your review was spot on. This is one of the best bang-for-buck, pound-for-pound watches out there and I can't recommend it enough as someone's first diver. I've actually set the blue Pepsi dial version as a weight-loss goal. If I can drop 20 pounds, I get to buy the watch. I hope I can pull it off because that Pepsi bezel and blue sunburst dial is hard to resist!

[@RelativeTime]

That's a good goal. Does the black Mako also have a sunburst dial?

[@ATDStudios]

@@RelativeTime it's just a matte black but it still looks pretty slick!

[@donp2166]

Have had the M2 on my wrist since delivery 1 week ago. Blue, like your review watch. Liking everything about it. I swim about 5 days/week, the M2 has been no problem. Not a metal bracelet guy, but liking this. Running 7-10 sec. fast, but I will wait another week before adjusting. Bezel, crown, all works just fine. Nice review, nice watch.

[@RelativeTime]

Thanks! How’s the bracket holding up with all the swimming?

[@donp2166]

@@RelativeTime So far so good. I worry more about how I'm holding up. 😊

[@TheGoodwolfe]

Great job, and as noted, one I've been waiting a while for you to review. I've had this exact watch for over a year now, and it's easily one of my favorites. I agree 100% with everything you said, especially about that beautiful blue dial, and preferring the Mako II over the Ray model. Another great point as noted, it's such an elegant diver, it doubles well as a dress watch. If it had sapphire, it'd be perfect!

[@RelativeTime]

There is always the Mako USA II, but that's almost 2x as much. Supposedly some of the Mako 3s have sapphire, but they changed the dial a bit.

[@TheGoodwolfe]

@@RelativeTime- Yes, that's true, but I don't want to pay that much more for a watch & dial that I like less. I love the look of this Mako II, just wish they'd have a sapphire version for another $50 bucks, which is more than reasonable. I guess I could have a sapphire glass installed by a trusted jeweler; which just may work.

[@omarkharnivall2439]

Love my mako II in black, only things I would change would be the Polished edge of the bezel for a brushed one, drilled lugs and the crown for a bigger one and at the 4o clock position, that would satisfy me as sometimes I wish it had more toolish features

[@ImTheDudeMan471]

The Mako ll is a bit more versatile looking than the Ray ll. It has more range in where it is appropriate to wear. Snorkeling, office, dinner out, beach or cabana, job site, community or client meetings, sailing, piano bar, etc. It's has a slightly more classy and sophisticated look. A general contractor wears the Ray, the architect wears the Mako. Same job site, different guys.

[@Jacobruxo]

Love your reviews man, the ice monster and this one got me into your channel! Congratulations for your really good work!

[@RelativeTime]

Thanks! Appreciate it!

[@jimstrutton3746]

I looked at this video which was the confirmation I needed to buy my first Orient watch! I bought the version with the Pepsi Bezel, as I felt like a bit more colour! My comments after a couple of weeks.......... What a Great WATCH! Thanks my friend, great review!

[@RelativeTime]

Glad you like it. Orient really knows what they are doing.

[@francesgerardgenil1592]

Just beginning my watch hobby. I purchased this Mako 2 as my first automatic watch after watching your excellent review. Thank you sir

[@RelativeTime]

Thank you! Although you might not want to watch my newest video. It's on one of the new orients I talk about at the end. I notice the stethoscope in your pic. Physician?

[@francesgerardgenil1592]

Relative Time yes sir. I can splurge to more pricier ones but im a cheapskate and so far I am loving my Mako. Watching your reviews almost daily. So many to catch up. Regards from the Philippines

[@superboy305]

Pineapples on pizza blew my mind when I was younger and I haven't looked back. Great comparison.

[@ZoSo828]

I own the Mako II with the blue dial as well and it’s a fantastic watch. It’s accurate, rugged and beautiful. You get a lot for the money offered. If you buy one you won’t regret it.

[@RelativeTime]

Well said. I’m interested to see the newer versions. The maroon and green one look interesting.

[@jefferyneu3915]

I have had a MakoII for just a few hours. So far I absolutely love it. This has to be one of the best values in an automatic dive watch!

[@RelativeTime]

Personally Ive come to like the Kamasu more. But as value goes the Mako and Ray IIs are pretty hard to beat.

[@indyawichofficial1346]

Indy a Wich Official Great and informative review, with cool and thorough narration. Highly appreciated, thanks!!!!

[@JusttheWatch]

That is a really gorgeous dial. I never really realized that dive most divers avoided arabic numerals (shows how much of a n00b I still am), but now that you point it out, I can't really think of many that do. I really like the whole dressy diver look as I think it adds a lot of versatility to the watch. But right now I'm thinking of trying to pick up an SKX and swap the bezel to a 12 hour dual time, but that project is still a little ways into the future (probably after I liquidate my Heroscape collection).

[@RelativeTime]

At some point I should try an SKX too. Since your in Japan you could look at the new mako / ray 3s. If that's really what they will be called. www.orient-watch.jp/product/category/?category_id=265 So far I don't think they are available outside Japan, and I think there is only one a few videos of it up. Next time there is a big ebay coupon I might see if I can get the burgandy one.

[@voiceofexperience]

Love both my (blue) Mako II on NATO & my (black) Ray II on stainless steel.

[@SuperBlackdalhia]

Very nice review. Indeed this blue is very classy. Bug hesitation now with the Citizen Promaster which is in the same price range

[@stevetownsend1389]

Very nice review, Shane. The Orient divers are remarkable for the value and price point. I have a Mako USA ll. I replaced the bezel and insert with a coin edge bezel and a lumed ceramic insert that I got from Yobokies. Looks terrific, and I don't have to worry about scratching the aluminum insert anymore. One of my forever watches in the collection. Thanks for the good work.

[@RelativeTime]

Thanks! With all the upgrades to the USA model, I’m surprised they didn’t include a ceramic insert. Which version of the USA do you have?

[@jrakai]

Another brilliant review, thank you! I’m looking for a blue watch to wear casually, looking as Seiko’s then noticed you mentioning Orient Mako 2 so I can a look. I own a SKA317 diver, love it, along with other models from Hamilton and Tag. I’ll decide between the Mako 2 and Seiko 5 hopefully soon, but once again your reviews have been fantastic!!! Keep up the great job!!

[@RelativeTime]

Thanks. There is also the new Kamasu line that are pretty nice. I did a review of the red Burgundy one. I believe it's the same movement, and a similar case to the mako. But with better lume and sapphire. Price is higher, but I've seen them on sale for around $200.

[@daleclark3138]

With 2020 prices on the SKX models over $400 now the Ray/Mako ii models for less than half that are simply a better choice. For heavy duty divers with Seiko NH35 movements the Deep Blue models are widely varied in looks for $150 to $300. Even the Seiko Samurai and Turtle are perhaps a better buy than the SKX. Good review on the Mako ii. Thanks.

[@cscam56]

I love my Mako II. The only issue I have is the crown can be stubborn to unscrew. A great looking and functional piece well priced.

[@RelativeTime]

It is a little hard. Kind of small and tucked in out of the way.

[@ajones4064]

Nice review!! I participated in the Mass Drop event for these as well and picked up the Pepsi Dial version. Great watch for the price!!! Thanks for sharing!!

[@BarnOwl61]

I bought the Mako II with the black dial in may this year. Used, but as good as new. I wanted the blue dial Ray II, but i could pick this one up for 100 Euro's. Not to much for a great watch. I keep picking it from my watch box as my favourite watch. It is the right size and is comfortable to wear. No problems with the bracelet for me. From my own experience i can tell you that it is great. There is just one thing i don't like, it is the grinding sound of handwinding it. The crown is a little to small, but you'll get used to it. Thanks for your review. Very interested in the Mako and Ray III. 😀

[@chadr8264]

Joop Plankman I’m thinking of picking up the black. Is it flat or is it a starburst like the blue? Is there any pop to the dial in your opinion?

[@RelativeTime]

Thanks! When I get a little more info on the specifics I'll try to pick one up. For some reason the green one is calling me. Cheers!

[@richardprice7763]

I just bought a Mako 3 (black dial and bezel) on eBay UK for £180 which is a pretty decent price considering that on the Orient Japan website the price is ¥38000 (£265) and Amazon have some for £280....it's a lovely watch but very similar to the Mako USA 2 but without the solid end links. If you are in North America then don't bother with the Mako 3 just get the USA 2.

[@RelativeTime]

That’s a pretty good price. I emailed orient USA and asked about them. All they told me, was that they would be introduced stateside in the next few months. But didn’t tell me if they were really replacing the current makos. So I’m debating ordering one now from overseas, or waiting and seeing if the price will drop once they are released here.

[@mehdis2159]

My father's Orient watch was the reason behind my love of watches since I was 10 at school (back 42 years ago). They scream quality and value. It took me a long time before deciding to purchase a Ray II over Mako II but now I'm happy with my choice. I just prefer the Ray II and Mako USA's dial over Mako II. Thank you Relative Time for your great content.

[@RelativeTime]

Thanks for watching and commenting! I'm starting to get more curious about the Mako 3s. They look like the Mako USA's dial, but seem to be cheaper. I might have to get one sooner then later. Cheers!

[@birdlaw1019]

The Mako 2 is the watch I grab when I am not sure where the day will take me. I purchased a strapcode super oyster bracelet (the tapering makes it more comfortable and it feels more secure on the wrist) and a sapphire crystal (from crystaltimes) as upgrades, and it takes the watch to a much higher level. The only real gripe I have (which was echoed in your review) is that it would be nice if the second hand hand some lume.

[@RelativeTime]

I think thats a similar combo to what Mark from Long Island Watch is selling. I have one generic Oyster bracelet, but I think its a 20mm. Have to look at getting one from Strap Code sometime.

[@thelonerider9693]

I like the more traditional dials but I like the mako 2 for the same reason I like explorer type dials. It is just --- different. FYI if like me you've noticed the untapered bracelet on the mako 2 wears a tad wide, try the nato strap it makes the watch even better and knocks some weight off.

[@nicke.3011]

Just ordered the Mako II based on your video review, as it seems that we both have very nearly the same tastes in watches. Thanks!

[@RelativeTime]

Glad to help. Hope you like it, when you get it.

[@krystianstepien5835]

Got one. PEPSI bezel. Mod -> sapphire domed cristal + enamel bezel. SKX looks like a peasant next to it.

[@thewatchloungechris]

These are cool pieces I had one a while back.

[@kv9395]

I am strangely attracted to your method of delivery in your videos

[@RelativeTime]

Thanks. I think my wife said something like that once. 😋

[@davidcoleman2463]

I think I will get one and put it on a Barton Elite silicone blue strap .

[@RelativeTime]

I've got a couple of those, and it would look great. Ritche silicone ones aren't too bad either, but Barton is definitely better.

[@calosles]

I want a Mako II with the Ray's bezel, solid end links ans sapphire crystal.

[@RelativeTime]

Unfortunately the Mako USA has those, but also has a dial more like the Rays. Closest I've seen to what you want is one of the new Orient Stars. Although it's got a bit more of a price tag and an open heart. www.orient-watch.jp/orientstar/prod_semi-skeleton_sports.php

[@surfitli]

I have a Mako USA 2, I like the dial better and it has sapphire and solid end links. However it’s hard to get a good deal on them. I got a white dial version Pre-owned on eBay. I’m sure you have heard of Deep Blue. They have some very nice divers that can be purchased for around $150. The Master 1000 and Diver 1000 have sapphire, a Seiko NH35 movement, 300m wr, and Manuel helium release valves. The Master 1000 has a 44mm Case. The Diver 1000 is a new model, basically a 40mm version of the Master 1000.

[@fedemotta3]

surfitli I thought both of the deep blue were 44mm.

[@surfitli]

Winters the Diver 1000 is a new model. In pictures it looks exactly the same as the Master 1000. The Diver 1000 has a smaller 40mm case, but the exact same design and specs otherwise.

[@RelativeTime]

I've heard of them, but never looked to much into them. I'll give it another look. I didn't know they were that affordable. Every once in a while Orient USA will have a good site wide sale, which makes the USA a descent deal. But they usually sell out quick, just like the Tritons.

[@surfitli]

Relative Time you can usually get any Deep Blue for 40% off what’s listed on there website. They have recently released many new or updated models. Many of them are on the bigger side, but they did just release a 40mm diver called the Diver 1000.

[@thelastcry08]

I'm pulling the trigger on ray 2. In my home country ray 2 is going for usd122 on 12.12 (12th Dec)! Woot

[@RelativeTime]

Thats not a bad price. Which color you looking at?

[@thelastcry08]

@@RelativeTime the sunburst blue dial for sure :)

[@Atamoss]

Beautiful watch and great review, I'm not sure if divers are for me since I have a small wrist, I might have to try one and see how it fit !

[@RelativeTime]

It would probably be ok. They aren't crazy big like the Seiko Monsters.

[@HVG67]

I have the Ray 2 (blue) and the Mako 1 (orange). But the Mako 3 is out already... Just review it too. I like both and also my Bambino. Orient has great choices and the ones I own are great. However they get less wrist time then my Seiko's.

[@RelativeTime]

I'm already looking at the mako 3s. I was going to try and do a Mako USA or a Triton first. But there are a couple of the 3s that look very nice and a bit different.

[@timur7381]

I picked up Ray II few weeks ago, arrived on christmas eve, been enjoying it a lot! Nice looking, and solid feel. I'm considering modding the bezel (I prefer a coin edge look), maybe with a nice ceramic insert as well, although getting that, insert and a nice strap would cost much more than the watch itself :) Curious, my Ray II is not very consistent in terms of accuracy. Sometimes it's +5, sometimes it's +25. I ordered a demagnetizer, I read that my watch have been magnetized during shipping. Everywhere I looked it seems it should run +/- 10 max..

[@RelativeTime]

I'd give it a little more time before demagnetizing it. I've noticed that sometimes they act more sporadically the first few days when I first start them up. Otherwise you could try it. Another option could be the newer orient diver when they are more widely available. I'm not sure what to call them, I got one last week. So far, it's very nice. But I did notice that the bezel is more flat, and doesn't tape as much as the mako ii and ray ii. I'll have a review up in a few weeks. but minittowatch has one of the black dials up already. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nnPJlWCDhsakh5I At 10:15 you can see it right next to a ray ii.

[@georgeb9408]

Thank you very much for the video! I’ve found You make the best watch reviews on youtube because of your informative but relaxing style. Can you wear an Orient diver like this with a suit? What do you think? Cheers, George

[@RelativeTime]

You probably could. I've seen people wear a submariner with a suite. Not ideal, but I think it would work.

[@allenjanes5976]

Nice job. Wife says no more watches, but this one might be worth the beating. Thanks for the strap links.

[@RelativeTime]

You can always pull the old "No it's not new, I got it a while ago..."

[@gickojerke1262]

I own this watch and I am still looking at this review.....again

[@RelativeTime]

Thanks. It's a great watch. I noticed the Ray II has a loomed second hand, but I still prefer the dial layout of the Mako.

[@gickojerke1262]

Relative Time My dream watch is the Explorer so the layout is just right for me, I am however contemplating buying a mini turtle or other prospex diver that’s relatively small. Any personal favorites, doesn’t have to be a Seiko ? It really is a shame however that you can’t find a lot of divers with about 38mm

[@RelativeTime]

@@gickojerke1262 Off the top of my head check out the MAS Irukandji. It's a 40mm, but I think the case shape makes it wear smaller. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qWnMg5yCadyXr9U Also, check out the Traska Summiter. The dial is very Explorer-like. They just finished their Kickstarter, so it will be a bit before they are ready. www.traskawatch.com/summiteer/midnight-blue Lorier also has a few sub 40, but prices are a little high. And I think that Long Island watch is coming out with a smaller version of their Islander soon. Which basically makes it an enthusiast version of the SKX013.

[@garmin1488]

Great review. It's still my favorite watch, and Hawaiian is my favorite pizza (it's that sweet salty combo) I also have the Ray II . I've gotten a few compliments (ok 3) on the Mako , but no compliments on any of my other watches. The Seiko Skx would be better with a 4r36 movement and raised indices . The original Maka was my first Auto and I paid $93 new. Not a fan of the bracelet always ordered on the Rubber strap and usually wear it on a nato. The 120 click bezel is a huge improvement although it is still a little stiff. The New USA or Mako 3 is nice but about a $100 more.

[@danr1920]

I hope the Pepsi version has the same blue. Four days, weather permitting I'll have the Pepsi.

[@joelwilson97]

Just got a ray raven 2, looks the best in my opinion!

[@RelativeTime]

The all black does look nice on those.

[@TheSweede12]

I have a Ray Raven 2. A great watch. It gets loads of use.

[@RelativeTime]

Does that have a sunburst dial? It's hard to tell from some of the videos I've seen.

[@TheSweede12]

Relative Time The watch is black PVD with a Matt black dial.

[@ccooper8040]

Great review. What is the black strap with blue stitching? Is it a sailcloth?

[@RelativeTime]

I'ts a Cordura (which I think is the same thing) from watchgecko.

[@unbiasedreviews5978]

Beautiful review! Very professional. I like Mako II better than Ray and Seiko 5 SNZF in this price range. And I'll tel you why: Seikos are great but there's this problem with them. It's like hit or miss. Lots of Seikos come with misaligned markers(by fraction of millimeter but noticeable) and this is frustrating. I know for 100-dollar watch you can't ask for too much but still. Orients(so far) don't have this problem. Anyway, I enjoyed your review!

[@RelativeTime]

Thank you! If you haven't seen it check out my Orient Kamasu review. A nice upgrade over the mako and Ray's. Msrp is a bit higher. But I've seen them on massdrop for $180.

[@HarryUnchained]

I think ray has more of a toolish style watch and better lume but i never liked the hour hand shape so i went with the mako ii. I had the first mako back in 2011 with the date pusher. It was a great watch but i only able to source the black dial. The blue mako was so hard to get and usually much more expensive.

[@RelativeTime]

Have you noticed and major differences between the mako I and II. Other then the date pusher?

[@siyasisean]

I just want to ask something about the markings on the 6 area. The markings (japan movt bo aa02 a00 rt) I saw other orient that only contains (japan) not (japan movt) so is there a difference about it? Is there a possibilty that its a fake?

[@RobertNES816]

I have the Ray 2 in blue and black. Love the watch and the stock bracelet! I just wish it had a sapphire crystal. I'd gladly pay another $50 for that, the glass crystal scratches too easily for me. But thankfully I'm good at polshing out scratches.

[@RelativeTime]

Supposedly some (maybe all??) of the mako 3s will have sapphire. Been looking at what info I can get on them.

[@RobertNES816]

@@RelativeTime I went on Orients website. The Mako 3 looks like they tried to bring the Ray and Mako into one watch. It reminds me of the Mako XL but with nicer hands. I can't see the Mako 3 being a replacement since it takes away some of the characteristics that made the Mako 2 so popular, so maybe it's just an addition. Kinda like the Bambino line has a few watches, but with different generations to signify their differences.

[@hughminor9369]

I got the Mako 2 pepsi as my retirement watch

[@enriquealvarez4702]

You should definitely do the Seiko Skx. I was a non believer until i bought my skx, now my favorite watches are divers.

[@mrbacchus6127]

I was a nonbeliever as well. Too much hype I thought. But sometimes the masses are correct.

[@RelativeTime]

I should, and will. Only a matter of time. If nothing else, just for a frame of reference when comparing to others.

[@patricko9170]

@@RelativeTime Excellent review as always! I own 3 Seiko SKXs (007/009/013), and a Orient Ray II. They are roughly the same size physically. The main differences are: *Much better spring bars on the SKX *3:45 crown SKX vs 3:00 crown Ray II *Much easier to grip bezel on the SKX *No plastic spacer surrounding the F6922 movement (seems better constructed than the 7S26C, yet more complicated at the same time with added hacking and hand-wind.) *Ray II has a very stiff regulator adjustment compared to 7S26C's. *Lume about equal....initially brighter on the Ray II and greener in color. *Protected Hardlex lume pip on the SKX vs non-protected lume pip on Ray *Much larger crown on the SKX *Slight chapter ring misalignment on one SKX. *SKX case feels more solid and contorts to wrist better. *Ray II case-back takes up more area. I look forward to your thoughts about the SKX. Thanks again for the review!

[@AndrisJankevics]

I own both SKX 011 and Mako II. Mako is much better than SKX. Decent quality strap, better finishing and much modern movement. Also Mako just feels better on my wrist. All the hype about SKX is ISO certification, but who is still using mechanical watch for diving?

[@41alone]

mako 2 pepsi great watch if your ok with it stoping every time it gets between 10:15 and 10:20 then needing a sharp rap to get it running again right out of the box I had seen a couple of reviews indicating this might be a problem and bet I could dodge that bullet I was wrong returned it today

[@RelativeTime]

Sorry to hear that. Did it look like the hands were running into each other? Or would the second hand just randomly stop during that time frame?

[@41alone]

@@RelativeTime didn't look like the hands were touching

[@77cjam]

Good review mate. I have an orange Ray 2 (which does have lume on the second hand). It's a fantastic watch and I have it on a nice black leather strap. Im not a big SKX fan (the ISO certification really doesn't impress me) and personally I'd rather have the Orient (Ray or Mako). I think you get more of a watch. But simply my opinion, and everyone's is different

[@RobertNES816]

For the price Seiko charges for the SKX they should use the 4R36 movement instead of the basic 7S26. I mean you pay all that money and the watches face doesn't have applied markings or hacking and hand winding.

[@RelativeTime]

the movement is my biggest issue with the SKX. The ISO cert adds to the cost, because they test each watch individually. But for everyday life, these are more usable and look nicer.

[@josepmariaaguascaribot9239]

I wish purchase for Christmas the MAKO II Ref. : FEM 75001 BW. I don't expect a movement highly accurate but the bracelet, how ergonomic is it ? Thanks in advance for your help. Regards.

[@RelativeTime]

I think that's a Mako II XL model. So it will be a little bigger then this one. I think it's about 44.5mm wide, but I "think" it uses the same bracelet. If it's the same, I'd say it's good. Maybe one of the better ones in that price range. Check out the other comments, a few people have talked about theirs. So far everything is positive. Cheers!

[@TimeToGoTravelAndTimepieces]

Excellent video of one of my favourite watches. Great watches at the price. Thanks:)

[@RelativeTime]

Thanks. I caught you video on the mako 3 unboxing. Looks nice. 👍

[@Ferien7]

What is the leather strap at 8:03 and where did you get it?

[@whatsonthewrist]

Orient is a nice brand. Solid price to boot. Nice review. 👊

[@RelativeTime]

👊

[@adnoHis1]

Great reviews. Can you please do the SKX007 and SKX009? I would like your take on them. Thanks

[@RelativeTime]

Thank you! I've been hesitant to touch the SKX, because there are already so many good reviews on it. But I think I will have to soon. What do you think of the orange SKX011? I'm debating if I should look at that for something different. Plus I don't think there are as many videos on it.

[@adnoHis1]

It is the less known for sure. However I would like your review on your experiences as you professionally do on the SKX009. For me it looks like the best of the 3. See what you think. Also if you can do review on Seiko SUN019 as I believe is superb and less known in general. Don't forget to do Victorinox INOX, Masted Diver 500 and the Military Automatics ones. Too much to ask?...ha, ha....Keep the great Work!

[@philm5872]

But they're not Mako sharks!! Haha Great video..thanks! Just bought one!

[@lkotamadhukarnaidu]

Your review is awesome ! Could you please let me know the song used in the intro .

[@RelativeTime]

It's been so long had to find the Adobe file and open it up to see what file it was. The song is called Calvary by Aakash Gandhi . I just stumbled upon it in KZbins DRM free music library.

[@lkotamadhukarnaidu]

@@RelativeTime Thank You !

[@stevenc8054]

Cool review Wrist watch check ?

[@RelativeTime]

That's the new Spinnaker Titanium. Should have the video done in 2 weeks. Next week is a Timex Marlin Automatic.

[@stevenc8054]

Nice

[@tirrelldaveport3671]

So does the Kamasu wear smaller than the Mako II?

[@RelativeTime]

I think they wear about the same. I'd have to double check the specs, but I think the cases are almost identical.

[@tirrelldaveport3671]

@@RelativeTime yeah I've heard the Kamasu being anywhere from a 41mm to 41.3 to 41.8. Different people say different things. Most people have the lug to lug of the Kamasu a little smaller than the Mako though

[@RelativeTime]

@@tirrelldaveport3671 I don't have this Mako anymore, but I have a Mako USA. Which should have the same case, but with drilled lugs and sapphire. Just broke it out and compared it to my Kamasu. I didn't write down the exact measurements, but the Kamasu is about 0.1mm wider (with the crown), and 0.2mm shorter lug to lug. So it's not a big difference, but when I tried them on the Kamasu did feel a little smaller. Although I think that's because the lugs are slimmer and streamlined than the overall lug to lug. Between the Kamasu and the Mako II, I prefer the Kamasu. It's one of my favorites, and I can't say enough good things about it. In addition to the sapphire and better lume, I also think it has a better and easier to use the bezel. Mines currently sitting on a strapcode bracelet. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rXqbc5SifNeJq8k

[@tirrelldaveport3671]

@@RelativeTime thank you SO much! I've had the black Mako II for a while, and have thought about potentially upgrading to the Kamasu. Might have to pull the trigger.

[@inkitatus1]

prefer the USA (which is unattainable this side of the Atlantic) & the 3, but the Seiko's aesthetic is more tooly which appeals more- this is too flashy for my taste. Good value & excellent review as always tho. Cheers from Cambridgeshire, England 👍👍

[@RelativeTime]

Supposedly some of the Mako 3s have sapphire. So I'm curious to see what the differences between them and the USA model is. Maybe it's an international version of the USA. I'm sure there is demand for it. Cheers!

[@82majkel]

I'm actually waiting for my blue Mako 2 and black Ray 2 just measured my watches today and most accurate is Bambino gen 2 around +2 seconds a day. Never had such accurate watch ( 10 year old Epos team duograph valjoux7751 +14 seconds) ,(brand new Seiko NEO Ufo 4r36 +14 seconds) im becoming Orient believer

[@RelativeTime]

So far I haven't had an Orient I didn't like.

[@Br0ns0n]

Fantastic intro. Great review as usual.

[@RelativeTime]

Thank you as Always!

[@sterzherzog]

A great review, relaxed - and very "Californian"!

[@eusupporter8438]

nice watch, thank you for showing

[@eeyyaakk6801]

hey what are the differences between Ray 2 and Ray Raven 2?

[@RelativeTime]

I believe the Raven is just the all black (Stealth) version of the Ray II.

[@bertkanne4572]

Just an fyi. ORIENT dive watches that do not have a sapphire crystal and yobokies bezel, will damage easily. My original Mako USA has both.

[@RelativeTime]

So do you think the USA model is worth the extra cost? I'm curious how much better the lume is.

[@bertkanne4572]

My Mako USA is no longer on the market. The Mako USA II has replaced it. Other than their oem damage prone bezel, which is replaceable, its a superb watch, imo.

[@TheFcb5]

Just picked one up today 😆

[@OskarJuulJensen]

what a great video! I have the same watch and I love it!

[@FitOutPost]

Good timepiece, but I would prefer the Ray II. Thanks for sharing.

[@RelativeTime]

Thanks as always. For something in between check out the Mako USA model. Although a bit more with all the upgrades.

[@bastieniezzi6539]

Another great view. Thanks.

[@souvikdey9178]

please review orient anchor.

[@RelativeTime]

I’m not sure, but they may be discontinued. I’ve found a page on orient USA site. But the actual product pages are no longer there. I’ll see if I can find more.

[@Roger_Ramjet]

Interesting to see how much more slowly you talk in your videos now

[@RelativeTime]

And here I thought I was talking faster compared to these older videos.

[@meirharel4258]

Great review. Thank you.

[@fedemotta3]

Im waiting for mine today or tomorrow :)

[@RelativeTime]

Congrats!

[@jdkimple]

The dial reminds me of the "modern" Fifty Fathoms.

[@RelativeTime]

A little bit.

[@1alphared]

Very informative. Thank you.

[@zanedomke8148]

Mine gains 4.5 seconds a day. Pretty accurate for a sub-$200 dollar watch.

[@RelativeTime]

So far, every Orient I've got has impressed me. Including the accuracy.

[@pst9821]

How accurate yours is?

[@RelativeTime]

I don't remember. I don't have it anymore, I think I sold it right after I got the Kamasu. Sorry

[@alanmentzer8756]

Great information, thanks.

[@9426sunny]

I have 5 Orient watches(Mako2, Ray2, Kamasu red, Kamasu green, Kamasu gen2) now. They are all great watches, but if you shake them left and right softly for more than 10 seconds, they all speed up for 4 ~ 5 seconds immediately. If you do it again, they speed up more. Also, they all speed up approximately 10 ~15 seconds after walking for 3 ~ 5km or exercise in gym) Since all of my 5 Orient watches and SKX007 are same, I think it's normal for them. Anybody has comment for this here?

[@RelativeTime]

This is the first anyone has said anything. I'll have to check this on my kamasu. I guess I'll sync it to my phone, go for a long walk then recheck it.

[@skaynekurtis]

My Mako II looks truly bad-ass with this strap: 22mm Bonetto Cinturini 270 Black Smooth Italian Rubber Dive Watch Band Strap - and, yes, Hawaiian pizza is hardly a crime... it just isn't.

[@RelativeTime]

That's a nice strap. The best Hawaiian pizza I've had was here in Texas. Local place that serves it with roasted cashews and sun dried cranberry. My wife ordered it, and I was hesitant to try it. Just sounded weird, but it really does go together. Gave it just a little bit of sweet and tangy flavor.

[@harrylal7319]

Good video bro

[@supermash1]

Ham and Pineapple is GOOD on a pizza!

[@burkholdst.rudderberg3574]

I love Orient ( I have 2 Rays ). I do not think a dive watch needs a day and date window " Hey Juan, it is Tuesday, we need to surface"! I think the D&D windows should be removed and the number 3 put back on the dial; the visual balance will be improved . The watch I actually use for skin diving is a Vostok Amphibia 120811 without a day and date window ( my West End Watch Impermeable is too pretty to get wet!) .

[@RelativeTime]

You have a good point. Although when I’ve been under water, I’m more looking at my air pressure then my watch. I have and will be using my orange scuba dude for diving. It has a date, but the next Vostok I buy won’t. But that’s more from the lack of a quickset date. Cheers!

[@burkholdst.rudderberg3574]

I think that it is obvious that many of us who actually wear a watch during water sports do not wear our best. We wear Vostok, Orient, and Casio in the water and leave the Longines, Omega, Rolex, and the Blancpain Fifty Fathoms on the dresser at home. ( We wear these when we are just TALKING about diving! )

[@harrylal7319]

Looks better without mental band for me👍❤💛💚

[@RelativeTime]

I agree. Thanks!