Origin Of Leviathan: The God of Flesh, Hunger, and Desire - Hellraiser Bestiary Explored

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@ZillaTheTegu
@ZillaTheTegu 3 жыл бұрын
I always thought that Leviathan was the coolest thing in the entire Hellraiser franchise. How it towers ominously over the labyrinth, the sound it makes, and getting pierced by its black lights. It was so intimidating and almost Lovecraftian.
@cthulhu4411
@cthulhu4411 2 жыл бұрын
The idea of evil from berserk is like the leviathan, the godhand are like the cenobites
@chrisstich5971
@chrisstich5971 2 жыл бұрын
They need to give him a better backstory. Like " oh this being killed Lucifer and took over hell"
@ZillaTheTegu
@ZillaTheTegu 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrisstich5971 They brought the Leviathan back for the new Hellraiser reboot.
@chrisstich5971
@chrisstich5971 2 жыл бұрын
@@ZillaTheTegu yeah but they don't explain how he got the throne of hell
@hedquarterz
@hedquarterz 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrisstich5971 I thought he doesn't rule over hell. Only the labyrinth
@ebonyatropus7367
@ebonyatropus7367 2 жыл бұрын
Leviathan's geometric "body" apparently has "rooms" in it, according to some of the comics. TBH, I always imagined Leviathan's true form, as the name implies, to be some immense aquatic beast, housed in an immense holding take at the centre of that geometric shape, the last of its kind from a dead universe, with near omnipotent psychic and psychokinetic power within its own realm.
@Priinsu
@Priinsu Жыл бұрын
Kind of like the Aboleths from DnD lore?
@ForThoseWhoRun
@ForThoseWhoRun 3 жыл бұрын
The creator of Hellraiser very specifically says for the first 2 movies that Leviathan is NOT SATAN and the other dimension in NOT HELL.
@Bettervibesforever
@Bettervibesforever 2 жыл бұрын
Well, sorry but a place of endless torture and hellish desires. The fuck would you call it heaven?
@dommyboysmith
@dommyboysmith 2 жыл бұрын
Why would he name Pinhead "hell priest"? "Hellbound heart".. etc. To be honest, he always says one thing and his own work says something different. I truly beleive he tried to alter things after release. 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️
@saml5860
@saml5860 2 жыл бұрын
I believe the dimension is referred to as Hell, but it wasn't the Judeo-Christian Hell. Well, until the Scarlet Gospels came out....
@josholin31
@josholin31 2 жыл бұрын
@@dommyboysmith idk. In the first movie they were told to go to hell. And they said they couldn't. Whether that's because she solved the box (so they couldn't return without her) or if they were bound to that dimension instead, is debatable. One thing I just point out though is the lack of population in hellworld. The population only seems to consist of people who open the box. Or maybe that section of hell is built purely to confine and process people into becoming cenobites. The demon in bloodlines raises more questions that answers. Apparently she was a queen? Where were the demon subjects? Is she one of a kind? One of multiple? Or was she just another cenobite? Another thought, demons might keep that area sealed off. Because there's potential for them via sorcery, to get abducted. Put into a human body and kept under control.
@croaton07
@croaton07 2 жыл бұрын
@13thExit Strategy Nope Plenty of options outside heaven and hell. This fits more into lovecraft than it does hell. Just because you personally see it as hell, doesn't mean it is or was ever meant to be.
@winsomehax
@winsomehax 2 жыл бұрын
"And to think I hesitated" is one of the creepiest and disturbing lines in movies. Also the fact that they show the beginning of Channard's torture and then rotate the cabinet around and down out of sight... just leaves it in the imagination.
@EXEcosmoman20
@EXEcosmoman20 Жыл бұрын
becoming a cenobite means you have transended to godhood given there abilitys
@caffeineandsleepingpills
@caffeineandsleepingpills 10 ай бұрын
My biggest complaint with the doctor's transformation is that pre-transformation he was a brilliant highly educated very talented brain surgeon. But after the transformation he was reduced to a slayer who just cut people up without any reason besides the cruelty. I think it really did a disservice to his backstory, and erased so much of what made the doctor an interesting character.
@poindextertunes
@poindextertunes Ай бұрын
I LOVE THAT LINE!!!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@360entertainment2
@360entertainment2 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine if Tiffany had been made a cenobite? Her puzzle solving skills could definitely be utilized in creating unsolvable puzzles for various victims!
@prestonjones4941
@prestonjones4941 3 жыл бұрын
Eventually tiff does become one. After Kirstie becomes the hell preistess. Yup. Canon
@chriscripplercruz1833
@chriscripplercruz1833 3 жыл бұрын
@@prestonjones4941 i was just about to say that lol
@360entertainment2
@360entertainment2 3 жыл бұрын
@@chriscripplercruz1833 dang that’s awesome, was this in IDW comics?
@remc0s
@remc0s 3 жыл бұрын
She does become a cenobite, but doesn't solve puzzles. She acts rather aggressive and definitely isn't the quiet girl from Hellbound anymore.
@360entertainment2
@360entertainment2 3 жыл бұрын
@@remc0s oof, I was kind of hoping they’d incorporate the puzzle solving or at least something like that!
@MiKeMiDNiTe-77
@MiKeMiDNiTe-77 3 жыл бұрын
That part with Leviathan spinning between those mirrored storm clouds on HR II is one of the most coolest things I've seen in movies...very artistic and symbolic
@Virvum_Juggernaut
@Virvum_Juggernaut 3 жыл бұрын
HR2 : “The Doctor is in. What’s on the agenda? Ah yes ... amputation.”
@zellsoserious
@zellsoserious 2 жыл бұрын
Dude!!!!!
@Masshysteria40
@Masshysteria40 2 жыл бұрын
Leviathan is more so a lord of hell. One of many presiding over a specific faction within Hell.
@jeanpaulmichell7243
@jeanpaulmichell7243 2 жыл бұрын
The whole movie is shot with an Avant Garde style that makes things look strange, but cool at the same time. Especially the scenes in Hell; there's a psychological layer to the images that fascinated me as a kid (still does).
@poindextertunes
@poindextertunes Ай бұрын
@@Virvum_Juggernaut Channard is SO cool. I think I like him better than Pinhead even. Everything about him was perfect and Kenneth Cranham absolutely crushed it. He was born to play Channard 💯
@phily8716
@phily8716 2 жыл бұрын
I love the special effects of old horror movies. I feel they give off an otherworldly vibe that modern films fail to capture.
@silverblue73
@silverblue73 2 жыл бұрын
because they had to think of creative ways to show things using real objects instead of animating everything with CG
@The-Beyonder
@The-Beyonder Жыл бұрын
It feels "otherworldly" because tons of movirs have similar fantasy-esque plots and even this plot is literally otherworldly lmao. So what you really mean is, the props and visual effects are practical as much as physically possible instead of lazy CGI for every little thing or detail.
@tunguskalumberjack9987
@tunguskalumberjack9987 3 жыл бұрын
“Leviathan is fascinated by Law and Order…” Would that be SVU or Criminal Intent? Or the original one?
@wakingohiomama9110
@wakingohiomama9110 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@Beautyhuntress78
@Beautyhuntress78 3 жыл бұрын
Good one👍 ☝️
@chrisglover2697
@chrisglover2697 2 жыл бұрын
All 3
@tunguskalumberjack9987
@tunguskalumberjack9987 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrisglover2697 👍🏻
@MikeRosadoGaming
@MikeRosadoGaming 2 жыл бұрын
Las Vegas. :v
@Virvum_Juggernaut
@Virvum_Juggernaut 3 жыл бұрын
“You opened the box, we came, now you must come with us .... taste our pleasures.” GONG!🔔
@jeremystevens6640
@jeremystevens6640 3 жыл бұрын
We have such sights to show you 😈
@ertont2849
@ertont2849 3 жыл бұрын
I'll make you're suffering legendary even in hell ✌️
@chrismagnum06
@chrismagnum06 3 жыл бұрын
"Angels to some,Demons to others."
@PumpkinspiceCatte
@PumpkinspiceCatte 3 жыл бұрын
"We have eternity to know your flesh."
@Virvum_Juggernaut
@Virvum_Juggernaut 3 жыл бұрын
@@jeremystevens6640 Love that line man. Pinhead almost sings it.
@cybersloth2467
@cybersloth2467 3 жыл бұрын
Leviathan reminds me of the Ideal Masters from Skyrim, they're also floating diamonds who rule souls trapped in a hellish realm.
@dreamzplayern1684
@dreamzplayern1684 2 жыл бұрын
Wow that's insane
@theskoomacat3106
@theskoomacat3106 2 жыл бұрын
Whoa. Yeah there is definitely some inspiration
@Palemagpie
@Palemagpie 4 ай бұрын
I'd imagine it's a pretty direct homage. The first time you see an ideal master in battlespire. It's pretty 1 to 1.
@StopFear
@StopFear 3 жыл бұрын
What I find funny is how this movie when it originally came out was rather shocking and original. But as the mostly crappy sequels and a multitude of other movies on similar themes came out the concept and imagery of this film became less shocking and less controversial.
@Notwitty
@Notwitty Жыл бұрын
Clive barker had nothing to do with the films after the first 2 I believe. He wrote “hell bound heart” in 84 I wanna say, and did the first 2 movies with Miramar or lions gate, then sold the rights and all those Hollywood degenerates tried to capitalize on crap ideas frankly.
@mindyobiznass5852
@mindyobiznass5852 2 ай бұрын
Sooo true
@silenthill4
@silenthill4 2 жыл бұрын
Major correction; The lament configuration is merely a solution to the box, there are several solutions. It's called a "Lemerchand's Box"
@stefanogiannaccini3258
@stefanogiannaccini3258 3 жыл бұрын
Leviathan: Here I will torture souls forever! Pinhead: How so? L: Tomorrow Half Life 3 will be released. P: But time never flows here! L: Exactly!
@drjedi99
@drjedi99 Жыл бұрын
Lol.
@Jjunior130
@Jjunior130 Ай бұрын
😱
@nightowl8363
@nightowl8363 3 жыл бұрын
This is why Hellbound is my all-time favorite horror movie.
@wmsmith7346
@wmsmith7346 2 жыл бұрын
2 got me truly into it
@mazeltovcocktail2.0
@mazeltovcocktail2.0 3 жыл бұрын
"saddle-masochism" "seen oh bites" good lord
@paulysmallz8095
@paulysmallz8095 2 жыл бұрын
lol I was like what is he trying to say
@FacePunchMcGee
@FacePunchMcGee 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a stickler for pronunciation, so I was watching this vid like 😬 One more: “Lay-ment” configuration.
@MadScientyst
@MadScientyst 2 жыл бұрын
An interesting insight could be that every Demon (for want of a better word) has his /her own particular niche of 'Hell'. Anyone remembers the take on 'Lillith' in another great flick 'Night Angel' & even the original 'Constantine' where Keanu Reeves enters Hell to check on the suicide girl. Coupled with 'Event Horizon,' I always found these 2 depictions of Hell to be totally disturbing & downright frightening. The Leviathan concept was just brilliant with the connection to the puzzle box & it's relation to the subtle Labyrinth of unknown horrors awaiting in that other-dimensional maze. Recalling the entities & structure of 'Midian' in 'NightBreed' ruled by Baphomet, it's possible Clive Barker opted to envision a version of Hell where the viewer /reader would draw their own conclusions, perhaps based on their own personal fear of the unknown....IMO
@wolfc7280
@wolfc7280 3 жыл бұрын
So I feel that Leviathan's hell is only one part of hell. That there are other levels over seen by different demons. Also the floating diamond is not Leviathan, but its where Leviathan resides.
@justwannabehappy6735
@justwannabehappy6735 3 жыл бұрын
Boom studious confirmed this.
@evanabbott2737
@evanabbott2737 3 жыл бұрын
Cool, I’ve always wanted to know what’s inside of that thing.😁
@yondu689
@yondu689 3 жыл бұрын
@@evanabbott2737 Solve the riddle box and find out.
@shiftstart
@shiftstart 3 жыл бұрын
That’s the problem with this Channels I often find statements about Hellraiser mythology which isn’t true.
@prestonjones4941
@prestonjones4941 3 жыл бұрын
Each deadly sin had a hell. Leviathan is lust. Anger is right below this.
@Otaku155
@Otaku155 2 жыл бұрын
If the franchise is rebooted successfully, we need more exploration of the labyrinth.
@SamuelBlack84
@SamuelBlack84 2 жыл бұрын
An exploration of countless unspeakable desires
@poindextertunes
@poindextertunes Ай бұрын
The new Hellraiser is so good but unfortunately I don’t think it will have a sequel and that really sucks bcuz they absolutely nailed the cenobites. The Gasp was absolutely terrifying
@ltpvs
@ltpvs 2 жыл бұрын
Still in love with how much the one person who makes this entire channel commits to making it as professional as possible!
@TheSean89420
@TheSean89420 3 жыл бұрын
The milkman manifestation he takes when talking to kirsty cotton hell priest in the comics was truely epic
@PotatoSoundSystem
@PotatoSoundSystem Жыл бұрын
The fallen angel theory (Leviathan, prince of hell, demon of envy) makes the most sense of his identity
@RX552VBK
@RX552VBK 2 жыл бұрын
The Epic Comics from the early 90s give an interesting origin story for everything in the original movies. They expand on what was partially explained in HR1 and HR2 especially. That Leviathan came from a universe where it alone resided, until chaotic energies from (possibly from life itself) came through and "corrupted" his/it's realm of seamless perfection. Leviathan attempt to understand, attack and control life from our universe came into the form of the earliest Cenobites.
@03chrisv
@03chrisv 2 жыл бұрын
If we take the comics into account Leviathan is basically a lord of ONE of the circles of hell. There are other lords of hell, including Lucifer, that are in charge of their own respective hells. In fact there was a small scene in the comics where one of the lords of hell openly spoke out against Leviathan and his underlyings in contempt and disgust. Leviathan may be a fallen angel or something else, however in the comics even Leviathan acknowledges that the only being that can cast judgment against it is God himself, it even stated that it's prepared to accept such judgment.
@fruitfulspirit4169
@fruitfulspirit4169 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting concept. What's the comic?
@smal750
@smal750 Жыл бұрын
Lucifer > leviathan
@DRIPMOSCATTO
@DRIPMOSCATTO 4 ай бұрын
Good points but Satan > Leviathan I’m guessing
@joshuamourning6650
@joshuamourning6650 3 жыл бұрын
Leviathan sees Life is chaotic: screams geometrically
@andy-the-gardener
@andy-the-gardener 3 жыл бұрын
if leviathon idolizes order then it should idolize life because life is extreme organisation. the actions of the cenobites however seem the epitome of disorder / irrational / chaos. the philosophy of hellraiser is ass backwards.
@munstrumridcully
@munstrumridcully 3 жыл бұрын
Cenobites is pronounced "sehn-oh-bytes", the "cen" part sounds like the "sen" in "send" or "senator". Just Saiyan.
@munstrumridcully
@munstrumridcully 3 жыл бұрын
@@BigWilleyMusicandFun where did I mistakenly use flute in place of float? Or is this some mean or something that I'm unaware of?
@Noanatsuka
@Noanatsuka 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I'm not the only person who notices all the times they mispronounce words.
@Nickwinch
@Nickwinch 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Did you also notice how he pronounced sadomasochism?
@munstrumridcully
@munstrumridcully 3 жыл бұрын
@@Nickwinch no I got annoyed with the cenobites and then the lament configuration was the last straw, I just gave up. Why how do you pronounce it? Was it with a soft ch sound? 🙂
@Anela0709
@Anela0709 3 жыл бұрын
it's the Venom Smy-by-oat pronunciation all over again...LOL..
@michaellyscas4430
@michaellyscas4430 2 жыл бұрын
The boom comics went into this more. They basically state there are many hells, anger and rage, remorse and sadness etc each with a ruling god, each with types of minions like cenobites. They even have hells invading each other and pinhead swapping sides for a bit. The scarlet gospels book reveals Satan is real and has been missing for sometime in which pinhead is seeking out and eve tually finds him.
@travissmith7471
@travissmith7471 15 күн бұрын
Leviathan is awesome! I loved the _Hellraiser 2022_ version as well. Keep sharing remarkable stories and explanations. I enjoy it all. Thanks for sharing!
@Serioussmile51
@Serioussmile51 3 жыл бұрын
MrH reviews channel has a wonderful selection of hellraiser videos
@samdeane5003
@samdeane5003 3 жыл бұрын
I think I hear his trademark music in the background of this video.🤔
@sherrieludwig508
@sherrieludwig508 3 жыл бұрын
So, the video of "the god of flesh, hunger and desire is prefaced by a Burger King BK Double ad. Well played.
@CyrusCageSCWS
@CyrusCageSCWS 2 жыл бұрын
This thing is just like the Gnostic idea of the Archon consciousness
@ZootLives
@ZootLives 3 жыл бұрын
Ages ago when I was toying around with an idea for a Hellraiser/Wishmaster crossover, I considered having Leviathan being the first Djinn who denounced their chaotic ways and took over Hell, where Leviathan continues to feed upon and pervert the desires of humankind. Either way, my Hellraiser/Wishmaster crossover would focus on the Djinn and the Cenobites seeking similar goals in distorting human desire but coming in conflict over their devotion to chaos and order, respectively.
@poindextertunes
@poindextertunes Ай бұрын
idk i like the first two Wishmaster’s but the idea of exploring the depths of sensation is an infinitely cooler idea than a genie who tricks ppl. just imo. Djinn was evil and collected souls. The cenobites aren’t bad or good, they just show ppl who solve the puzzle a level of sensation that cant be reached in our dimension
@roland1931
@roland1931 2 жыл бұрын
Holy Pronunciation Batman.........
@bigkatsmyth2351
@bigkatsmyth2351 Жыл бұрын
If the Leviathan brought other iconic horror villains to Hell I’m sure he would consider them worthy of becoming cenobites.
@Barnesofthenorth
@Barnesofthenorth 2 жыл бұрын
Feel like I should point out for the first 2 the cenobites were the antagonists, it was Julia, Chanard and Frank. The Cenobites are just explorers in experience who come when people summon then. That was what made them interesting in the first films, the monsters weren't the monsters in the film, it was normal people.
@Razer5542
@Razer5542 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't really say that leviathan is the fallen angel himself considering leviathan is just a godlike hell lord ruling over his own layer of hell (Lust), i did always wonder (And still do like many others) how his true form would look.. It was said to be either organic or mechanic but it can also pretty much be a shadow.
@1204trip
@1204trip 2 жыл бұрын
Speaking directly from the books technically technically the hell which the hell which Leviathan lords over is the circle of gluttony
@NATEDOG
@NATEDOG 3 жыл бұрын
I really hope they don’t do another movie. The last one they did pissed off Barker so much we went on a cussing tirade and told everyone not to associate him with that trainwreck
@Halo-71
@Halo-71 3 жыл бұрын
They are doing a remake but Clive Barker is the producer of the film and Pinhead in this new one is a female.
@NATEDOG
@NATEDOG 3 жыл бұрын
@@Halo-71 if he's the director, it's gonna be good
@Red1Green2Blue3
@Red1Green2Blue3 3 жыл бұрын
Didn't they have to do it to keep the rights?
@NATEDOG
@NATEDOG 3 жыл бұрын
@@Red1Green2Blue3 yeah, but they should have thought really hard about the story and used all experienced actors (one of the teens did his acting debut in the next to last one and his acting was terrible
@Red1Green2Blue3
@Red1Green2Blue3 3 жыл бұрын
@@NATEDOG they're not going to do that for a rights movie. Easier to just make a cheap flick and retcon it later
@preemptive74
@preemptive74 2 жыл бұрын
I was 14 when part 2 came out. The guy on the mattress with the straight razor got me good.
@artoffacts96
@artoffacts96 3 жыл бұрын
I am a huge fan of the[ See-No-Bites]
@johnmartin7079
@johnmartin7079 3 жыл бұрын
Now see, I'm a Hear-No-Bites guy.....weird...
@artoffacts96
@artoffacts96 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnmartin7079 🤣🤣🤣
@Virvum_Juggernaut
@Virvum_Juggernaut 3 жыл бұрын
I once knew a Speak-No-Bite.
@iyeetsecurity922
@iyeetsecurity922 3 жыл бұрын
Sad-o-massa-kizzum
@jmgfx4161
@jmgfx4161 3 жыл бұрын
@@Virvum_Juggernaut you beat me to it
@P4nzerk93
@P4nzerk93 2 жыл бұрын
Tiffanys first words "shit" was so unexpected it was also a bit comical considering she had already seen all kinds of unholy stuff before.
@amatije
@amatije 3 жыл бұрын
I love Hellraiser. It's my all time fav franchise,next to A Nightmare On Elm Street.. If only these videos were made by someone who has better knowledge about it. Some things are twisted (like Leviathan is not the shape above the hell, he only resides inside), most of the words are mispronounced or they give us only the recap of the movie. Nothing's here explained! It's better not to make a video than to make it superficial!
@pointysidedown
@pointysidedown 3 жыл бұрын
I like the way he says see-no-bites instead of cenobites. I appreciate this persons effort, I think he did his best.
@Halo-71
@Halo-71 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with you !
@suggiethames9870
@suggiethames9870 3 жыл бұрын
DAMN BITCH, that was more brutal than the cenobites themselves
@amatije
@amatije 3 жыл бұрын
@@suggiethames9870 oh baby,it was only the truth 🤷
@shamusmcdrunkenen6491
@shamusmcdrunkenen6491 3 жыл бұрын
Repeats the same information several times. He also back tracks, muddling the timeline with the incorrect order of events.
@lillosob1253
@lillosob1253 2 ай бұрын
these videos are really cool but they work as a summary or compilation of information rather than a assimilation of that information for the sake of bringing up new questions or trascendental topics related to the hellraiser universe. Nice job anyway! I'm enjoying them a lot
@jwgoon
@jwgoon 2 жыл бұрын
Is that one of Slannesh's greater daemons from Warhammer 40k? Looks like Pinhead and company would fit perfectly within the 40k setting
@MileRastovac
@MileRastovac Ай бұрын
Yes it looks like a greater daemon or deamon prince of Slaanesh. its about order but order in excess.
@theniteowl7777
@theniteowl7777 2 жыл бұрын
Leviathan doesnt percieve people as sinners, but human flesh is representative of sin itself, and must be brought under control or destroyed.
@kinagrill
@kinagrill 2 жыл бұрын
I dun like that it's stated that Leviathan is the ruler of 'hell'. It is a ruler of some otherworldly realm that seems to be very much opposite to our own reality. Light is dark, shape is uniform, one rules all, life is brought there, rather than created, etc.
@Mecanotech
@Mecanotech 3 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking... why does the little box have so much power over leviathan. Well i can hypothesize that... Leviathan is a cosmic force obviously and it's existence is bound to all those negative traits you mention. Risk, gamble is one of them. So he knows there is risk in the box, but that's part it, and he likes it.
@TacticalReaper56
@TacticalReaper56 3 жыл бұрын
The first one was fantastic. I was born in 1998 so i semi grew up with these when i became of age. My mother showed these to me around 14-15. To this day I think the second one is decent, watchable for a awhile until the maze. The first one balls so hard at times. Idk if it was the writing team ir directing for everything that followed left a bad taste for me. But this series is one that could use a facelift. Not Michael Myers EDIT: i know this is a long shot, but i like to think Event Horizon and Hellraiser are one in the same worlds. Like the ship went to the hell dimension of hell raiser.
@hawk66100
@hawk66100 2 жыл бұрын
Event Horizon takes place in the 40K universe. It’s the first ship that travelled to the Warp and fell victim to Chaos.
@DarkGrottan
@DarkGrottan 2 жыл бұрын
@@hawk66100 Cenobites could be Dark Eldar
@hawk66100
@hawk66100 2 жыл бұрын
@@DarkGrottan I like it.
@setokaiba3458
@setokaiba3458 2 жыл бұрын
It seems that Clive is suggesting higher beings literally operate on higher dimensional planes. Like leviathan representing Lucifer, but still being a geometrical shape that is sentient somehow. So God would just be a more elaborate and technical geometric shape. But they’d be unique and have identity in THEIR plane of existence
@true_warlock
@true_warlock 3 жыл бұрын
I have always considered this "Leviathan" as some sort of combined biological and computer brain with its own sort of AGI as a sort of concept of both Skynet from Terminator and the Borg hive mind, and Cenobites originally being the species that created it that it eventually turned on creating tormented and twisted versions of terminators meet borg in one, and its conclusion that free will violates Order is the basis behind its initial motivations. That's why it hates dimensions with any form of sentient life expressing independence and uses "pleasure and pain" to overload its victims brains to create an annihilation of independent self awareness. Those few made from humans that have periodic recalls of their humanity is simply a factor of it learning to configure its methods and all the "horrors" are half real and half illusion like a waking nightmare just between that point of dream and awake states. That's how I considered the original Hellraiser. The boxes in turn I always though of as its own efforts to hide the "real key" to its own destruction or Kill Switch, so that whenever anyone happens upon one of its traps it then signals its hordes to carry out its directive and not just like the last movie a special one created to simply shut down the portals between this dimension and those it has infested. So basically there is a cube somewhere in our dimension possibly dropped out of its reach from one of its rebel Cenobites that having had a moment of lucidity dropped it out of this Leviathan's reach knowing it's hordes were going to find the rebel and destroy them before the said rebel could activate the kill switch themselves, in hopes that perhaps a species would become sentient enough to find this device, and figure out what it is for and how to use it to rid all dimensions of this Machine Mind's existence in any and all forms.
@rics440
@rics440 3 жыл бұрын
Wow
@Dr_Pickle
@Dr_Pickle 2 жыл бұрын
You're insanely creative, dude! I want to know more
@adrianoss.bougas3720
@adrianoss.bougas3720 2 жыл бұрын
Impressive
@true_warlock
@true_warlock 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dr_PickleSorry for the late reply,. I can break the concepts down more based on what Clive Barker originally stated that the Cenobites were human like beings in an extra-dimensional reality rather than a Hellish Afterlife type world. So basically all the mutilations are a mix of body augmentation and implants. The Leviathan is a Super Computer that all these beings are linked into. The majority of Cenobites cannot distinguish any longer between their own augmented reality and distinct physical existence. The few that "rebel" are those that became aware they are all trapped in a hive mind their own species created a very long time ago. The Leviathan then being an AGI (Advanced General Intelligence) gives reference to itself in terms it can best equate with what it learns from the minds it is linked into (such as it comparing itself to the god/master controller of that world). If we really go back to the very first we see more of this being the case and later the various studios choosing to :redefine things in terms of Hell and demons and the Devil more or less pushing the narrative movie goers at the time wouldn't understand it otherwise. One has to remember that the concepts of actually achieving some sort of virtual reality and augmented reality was already in place in 1987 so a lot of movies at the time dealing with ethics, morality, fear, fantasy and tech were some of the most common themes. Even Cartoons of the time were experimenting with such things. All the Labyrinth is, is a representation of the "core mind" of the Leviathan and the things in it the various minds linked into it.
@zackattack9228
@zackattack9228 Жыл бұрын
copyright this
@jasonsantos3037
@jasonsantos3037 3 жыл бұрын
Leviathan vs the idea of Evil who will win Well most of the demons from the Berserk were heavily inspired by hellraiser.
@StopFear
@StopFear 3 жыл бұрын
It is like the makers of this movie almost exploded the popularity of the Rubik’s Cube
@chriscripplercruz1833
@chriscripplercruz1833 3 жыл бұрын
Out of all the horror films from back then hellraiser 2 scared the shit out of me as a kid lol
@olswole3658
@olswole3658 2 жыл бұрын
Hellraiser 1 and 2 take place back to back in time making them one very long film. Very enjoyable indeed
@stanimirgeorgiev.87
@stanimirgeorgiev.87 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. When it comes to my favorite things, I always like to add some things which I know but they are not mentioned in the video. Ha ha ha that's true; Leviathan is obsessed with law and order, and he really finds humans chaotic beings. And he gives free will to the Cenobites to serve him of their own free will. So Leviathan does not impose his will on anyone. You once mentioned that the Cenobites have their own understandings of good and evil, and that was fair to say, because it is true; so, in some cases we can tel it's not the Cenobites who are really evil, it is as, humans. Humans as Frank of Hellraiser 1. Sinner, adulterer and murderer. Ready for anything to satisfy his greedy appetite. in Cenobites world they do what is customary to do, they are outspoken, they are not hypocrites, as some of the earthly religion --- people doing religion which they do not actually accept, and they commit sins , priests rape children, that are the opposite of the religion they profess, but they commit these sins hiding themselves, because they know that what they are doing is wrong. It is not accepted in our world. Cenobites ,in another hands, do their job, without hiding themselves, which job is normal thing for their world. Something more ---they keep every hell candidate , no matter from what dimension he is from, to knowing what awaits him. Hellraiser has great comic book art; I'm talking about the old classic comics that are more than 17 years old. And I have the whole collection. And there have some good explanations for Leviathan, Cenobites, the other hell societies and the Hell world. But in "The Scarlet Gospels" it is clearly explained that Lucifer is the lord of Hell. Lucifer has never been mentioned before. His first and only appearance was in "The Scarlet Gospels". And as far as i understand Leviathan cannot be destroyed ( maybe only from other Divine forces ) . After Lucifer destroys Hell, there is nothing left of Hell but Leviathan soaring in the emptiness above the ruins of Hell, and this is the last image of Hell that we see in "The Scarlet Gospels". Leviathan is left to levitate alone over a empty void of destructed Hell.
@Halo-71
@Halo-71 3 жыл бұрын
Very well said
@dr.strangelove.miguelaleja2825
@dr.strangelove.miguelaleja2825 3 жыл бұрын
THIS FILM IS AWESOME
@hossdelgato6098
@hossdelgato6098 3 жыл бұрын
Nice summary!
@N9olan
@N9olan 3 жыл бұрын
They were not going to kill Tiffany, they were going to take her back to be turned or tortured.
@GarredHATES
@GarredHATES 3 жыл бұрын
Leviathan is a biblically accurate angel
@AJerseyJohnnyEntertainment
@AJerseyJohnnyEntertainment 2 жыл бұрын
In the newer books which I don't know if it's cannon. They combined hellraiser with Judeo Christian beliefs. In this version, pinhead angered that Satan has never showed his face to torture or punished went on a journey to the deepest darkest parts of hell where Satan was supposed to have hidden himself to be as far away as possible from gods light. Pinhead finally finds lucifers castle and enters. Inside he finds that it appears luckier killed himself, eventually giving in to his despair of being out of the touch of God's light. All that's left is lucifers angelic armor and weapons. Pinhead , thinking he know is the real ruler of hell, puts on lucifers armor and declares himself the new ruler of hell as the other cynobites surround him. Suddenly lucifers armor begins to crush pinheads body and falls to the floor. In a cloud of smoke and dust a shape begins to take form and lucifer now stands tall, back in his angelic armor and "pissed off " that anyone would dare question his authority. Immediately chains begin flying from all directions hitting lucifer and just bouncing off his skin, not even leaving a scratch. Lucifer uses pinheads own chains to rip him to pieces. The other cynobites attempt to flee but they realize they are now in a room with no doors. Lucifer quickly destroys all the cynobites, and now haven been awakened after millenia of slumber, has a new found purpose to clean hell of all its "false gods". Thr title I believe had the word "heart" in it, and again I don't think it's cannon. But I would have loved to see it on the big screen. It's been along time since I read it also so I apologize for details I missed. It's much better of a concept when you read it by the author.
@fruitfulspirit4169
@fruitfulspirit4169 2 жыл бұрын
Please find out
@AJerseyJohnnyEntertainment
@AJerseyJohnnyEntertainment 2 жыл бұрын
@@fruitfulspirit4169, I will. I really wish we could see it on TV. I mean let's be honest hellraiser fans are fans of the cynobites. But watching lucifer stomp them and leviathan into nothingness would be awesome!!! And alittle more realistic.
@winzo4562
@winzo4562 2 жыл бұрын
See no bite? Lamb it configuration? I'm done. Give me the box. Solving it would be less torturous.
@Twitch_Moderator
@Twitch_Moderator 2 жыл бұрын
SEEN-o-bites. Senn-o-bites (cenobites) my friend.
@theblackgoatofthewoods
@theblackgoatofthewoods 7 ай бұрын
In Bloodline, Pinnhead tells Angelic that "Hell is much more organised now". That could mean that during Leviathan's rule, Hell was more chaotic and now with structure it could mean that it is gone
@John94709
@John94709 3 жыл бұрын
He's in charge of flesh, hunger, and desire? They must be short handed. Poor guy is probably exhausted.
@jnnfccc1794
@jnnfccc1794 2 жыл бұрын
leviathan was certainly one of the best villain concepts out there! It made a lot of sense to me as an explanation to our biblical understanding of hell and Satan. Biblical events are very humanized, which makes sense given the writers of the bible could only draw from nature and primitive existence, and it can fall short of making sense in a more modern time. I wouldn't expect angels to be humanoid, nor would I God, and the raw nature of leviathan certainly lacked all human features and understanding. It was an amazing cross between biblical hell and Lovecraft horror, and our brief encounter with this being certainly stokes the imagination while making it clear why it has its dogmatic motivations. Like with all creatures of this magnitude of power we can only hope (or fear) to get a glimpse of it and its actions in direct observation, and of course we only get that privilege due to the fact that we are a removed audience that is not really there. Wow!
@ino7604
@ino7604 10 ай бұрын
Super scary concept for sure. I actually loved the 2022 remake. I thought adding the ritual blade that attacks the user and damns them to a hellish ritual for eternity is chilling... once its tasted blood you are now a sacrificial offering... ☠️
@jaysherman2615
@jaysherman2615 3 жыл бұрын
This is my personal idea. Clive Barker did add God and Satan into the universe and The Leviathan was stated not to be either. So my idea is that the primordial chaos leftover from when God created the universe came together and formed the Leviathan. It is obsessed with order, but not the order we are familiar with. It is order that makes sense to the Leviathan and it created a universe to reflect that. The reason the Lament Configuration has power over it is because it is in geometrically perfect order as the Leviathan sees it. If there is one thing the Leviathan isn't, it is a hypocrite. So the Leviathan obeys the Lament Configuration's "perfection" so as to obey it's own rules.
@PartnershipsForYou
@PartnershipsForYou 2 жыл бұрын
Hachi machi!
@Dukesparrow1999
@Dukesparrow1999 Жыл бұрын
Hence why the Cenobites are perceived to be neither good nor bad but are neutral beings
@TheMarmeladian
@TheMarmeladian 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, you had many insights I had not considered.
@TheMorrogoth
@TheMorrogoth 3 жыл бұрын
Leviathan is NOT the Lord of Hell - He is the Lord of the Labyrinth. The Labyrinth is "A" Hell. Not "THE" Hell! This very detail is covered by the 2011 Comic series. There are OTHER rulers (of their own Hells) such as Abaddon and Lucifer. The 2013 Boom (For example) comic series "The Dark Watch" covers Abaddon vs Leviathan. It confirms that there are multiple Hells - Each that deal with differing sins. Clive Barker himself made it a point when he created the franchise to ensure that the Labyrinth and Cenobites remain OUTSIDE of such things and thus enigmatic. We need to also note that Clive Barker is NOT a fan of the current Hellraiser universe. With the "Scarlet Gospels" he has distanced himself from what the film franchise has become - And has aligned his versioning of "Hell" with that of the Christian faith. Satan is NOT Leviathan - That title DOES go to Lucifer - Whom is the one that has (most recently) killed "The Hell Priest" (Pinhead) in the "Scarlet Gospels".
@azatos009
@azatos009 2 жыл бұрын
actually that labyrinth is the universe as we perceive , which is formed by enormous sentient beings' brain cells ,it has macroscopic and microscopic sides at the same time , according to my deduction , leviathan is the first born even before time and space was formed
@ifenewsome505
@ifenewsome505 3 жыл бұрын
leviathan guards the gates of hell leading to earth and needs to use the cubes to convert humans into its army. It fights with the other 7 princes of hell to keep them in. Cubes based on design can bring you to another dimension like heaven realms or hell realms. he has the ability to augment flesh to superhuman levels but cant travel out without cubes. they dont chill in the real world for too long because the angel Ezekiel the Slaughterer slaughters magical beings roaming the mortal realm. Leviathan has a sister who uses her harrowers to fight him on occasion. When you die you go to a realm of hell or heaven. if baphomet makes it to you you become a night breed. *Bows and leaves*
@rickstorm4198
@rickstorm4198 2 жыл бұрын
Wtf?
@rvsawyer67
@rvsawyer67 2 жыл бұрын
your summation of the franchise was accurate and almost thorough. That being said, you mispronunciations of work like lament and cenobite damage my OCD. good work regardless of my cringes.
@wetzombie8491
@wetzombie8491 3 жыл бұрын
The way you say Cenobite is killing me
@remc0s
@remc0s 4 ай бұрын
I remember how in the comic books where Kirsty becomes the new Pinhead, Leviathan for some reason took the form of an old-fashioned milkman 🥛
@Halo9ramPanda
@Halo9ramPanda 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing movies!!!
@brucehamm2072
@brucehamm2072 Жыл бұрын
I should also be mentioned that leviathan has a sister name morte mamme who leviathan has sealed away because she stood against him in defense of humanity by creating her own group called the harrowers who she gave weapon blessed with her power weapons capable of killing cenobites
@brandonm8131
@brandonm8131 Жыл бұрын
I dont think it can ever be destroyed, rather turn rested. It also is what makes the cenobites, so its part of every film in a way.
@reecechapman7286
@reecechapman7286 3 жыл бұрын
Would be cool to see what's inside of the diamond thing be cool to have a scp crossover where the scp foundation are sending teams in
@-Uranos-
@-Uranos- 3 жыл бұрын
they really need to keep it abstract. the mystery makes it much more powerful
@austinwillcut4919
@austinwillcut4919 3 жыл бұрын
They do show what's inside the diamond in Hellraiser vol.2: Requiem put out by Boom! Comics.
@TheJohhnyE
@TheJohhnyE 3 жыл бұрын
“Seen-o-bites” 😂
@JohnDoe-ds1uy
@JohnDoe-ds1uy 3 жыл бұрын
So glad I'm not into S&M. The way it's portrayed in movies is insane. In the Matrix, the Merovingian has an S&M club called Hell.
@vincentzhaiven4017
@vincentzhaiven4017 3 жыл бұрын
It's not remotely an accurate representation
@kieranmelville5451
@kieranmelville5451 3 жыл бұрын
For a decent representation read the sunstone comics (they're free)
@fanaticbogey
@fanaticbogey 2 жыл бұрын
It's almost like the narrator didn't watch Hellraiser Hellbound for proper John Cena-bite pronunciation...
@manuelluna_81
@manuelluna_81 2 жыл бұрын
Hellraiser II Hellboumd is my absolute favorite of the franchise.
@Sirinoeles
@Sirinoeles 2 жыл бұрын
I still remember seeng Hellriser 2 for the first time. It has some flaws mainly in logic but I was yong and Leviothan strack me as some dark lovecraftian diety. It was something incomprehansible and facinating. Imagine my disappointment when I got aquainted with comics version of Leviothan. "He just loves order and humanity disturbes order so he uses lament boxes to crate an army of cenobites to conquer the realm of humans" thing. It's so utterly stupid. Humans is not the only sentient race. There are tribes of the moon pro minimum and that's just in one of many parallel worlds in Barker's multiverse. The strategy of recruting through lament configurations is remarcably ineffective. And what cenobites have to do with an army? They are monastic order. From all that we have seen they are some kind of ascets (or hedonistes), explorers, torturers but neither some conquerers, nor ground troops. It looks like someone had to give some explanation to the whole Leviothan and cenobites thing and they went with jeneric one.
@justjake5389
@justjake5389 3 жыл бұрын
nice vid!
@litha214
@litha214 2 жыл бұрын
Dude The (seen O Bite) is killing me 😂😂😂
@Lional
@Lional 2 жыл бұрын
I hated seeing leviathan. I thought it was when the absolute worst part of Hellraiser. It was so awesome to see the Cenobites and their marks of doom and damnation, just to show their god as a ridiculous diamond shaped crystal. Seriously, anything would have been better.
@2025-e4n
@2025-e4n Ай бұрын
@0:30- The Demon standing on Pinhead's right....is Ceelo Green! LOL
@GKP999
@GKP999 2 жыл бұрын
Acupuncture head must be feeling very relaxed and zen!
@lordschnitzel7961
@lordschnitzel7961 3 жыл бұрын
Please. „The Empty Hand: DCs Omniversal Threat and Destroyer of Multiverses. Explained“
@fernandoorozco5968
@fernandoorozco5968 3 жыл бұрын
YES
@brandonmuse5532
@brandonmuse5532 2 жыл бұрын
Good stuff!!!!
@lucas.baladi
@lucas.baladi 3 жыл бұрын
Leviathan remembers me of Mantorok, from Eternal Darkness
@notramesses4790
@notramesses4790 4 ай бұрын
A different idea of "hell" but possibly also the most terrifying!
@johndonovan5521
@johndonovan5521 3 жыл бұрын
Leviathan is all!
@hozza9901
@hozza9901 2 жыл бұрын
julias body flying down the hallway was comedy gold.
@DLY1994
@DLY1994 4 ай бұрын
SIN-obite not seen-obite...SIN..sorry that bothered lol nice video man
@rogerio15993
@rogerio15993 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful.
@StopFear
@StopFear 3 жыл бұрын
The core concept of this film is very similar to what we see in Yuzna’s From Beyond.
@SUPER_WOLFMOON
@SUPER_WOLFMOON 3 жыл бұрын
My own personal hell would be musicals. Good God damn that's almost worth being good to avoid!
@willhuey4462
@willhuey4462 3 жыл бұрын
unless its the good musicals because there are some good ones like little shop of horrors.
@SUPER_WOLFMOON
@SUPER_WOLFMOON 3 жыл бұрын
@@willhuey4462 You happened to name the single musical that would be especially torturous to me. Back in the olden days when we had like 6 channels max, that show was played on HBO all summer long, multiple times a day. Very, very disturbing to a young mind!
@willhuey4462
@willhuey4462 3 жыл бұрын
@@SUPER_WOLFMOON but i loved the song mean greeen mother from outer space.
@neslihankurum4852
@neslihankurum4852 3 жыл бұрын
Super
@StopFear
@StopFear 3 жыл бұрын
The black light from the Leviathan will show all sort of stains in your dirty beds.
@japhetzayas7194
@japhetzayas7194 2 жыл бұрын
The Leviathan reminds me of REM's album cover for AUTOMATIC FOR THE PEOPLE, albeit with less spikes, and the labyrinth reminds me of the infinite landscapes of MC Escher.
@LuzdeSombra
@LuzdeSombra 3 жыл бұрын
Nice!
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