Original Sin: Guilty but not Condemned?

[@havenofear7033]

This was a good eye-opener. Shared it with my FaceBook group. Thank you.

[@LaymanBibleLounge]

@@havenofear7033 thanks for sharing!

[@kevinsBiblicaldiscussions]

I will definitely be watching this.

[@LaymanBibleLounge]

Happy to hear your thoughts!

[@kevinsBiblicaldiscussions]

There is also the position that your nature becomes sinful the first time that you sin

[@havenofear7033]

That is my view.

[@BradMcFadden]

But we are not guilty of sins we did NOT commit. We are NOT guilty of Adam’s sin we are guilty of our sin. The Bible does not teach inherited guilt.

[@LaymanBibleLounge]

@@BradMcFadden I agree

[@Dizerner]

You're conflating Original Sin with Original Guilt.

[@LaymanBibleLounge]

@@Dizerner inherited adamic guilt is historically one of the components of the western doctrine of original sin. If a view uses the title original sin but rejects inherited guilt, it’s not really original sin. That view would be essentially ancestral sin. So no, I’m not conflating the two.

[@LaymanBibleLounge]

@@Dizerner if you look at my articles and videos that frame the issue, I categorize the affirmation of inherited guilt as an original sin view and the denial of inherited guilt as an ancestral sin view. But both views do overlap on other consequences of the fall which everyone affirms (like mortality, a fallen world, personal sin etc.)

[@Dizerner]

@@LaymanBibleLounge Yes, you ARE conflating the two, because just asserting they are the same does not prove it. Original sin as the doctrine teaches that because of Adam's sin we are each born sinful with a sin nature. It does NOT teach, and never HAS taught, that every individual is held personally responsible for a direct violation of God's command in clear light and grace that led to billions of souls being eternally lost in hell and the entire creation being cursed, that is not the doctrine. Original Guilt is a false accretion upon Original Sin, and very distinct from it. Consider this explanation of Original Sin by Tertullian, 200 years before Augustine even lived: “Every soul, then, by reason of its birth, has its nature in Adam until it is born again in Christ; moreover, it is unclean all the while that it remains without this regeneration; and because unclean, it is actively sinful, and suffuses even the flesh (by reason of their conjunction) with its own shame.” Notice there is NO description or talk of Adam's specific sin being imputed to people as their guilt... none. It is a transference of a sin nature that is the core of Original Sin.