Original Wood Farm Wagon Preservation | Engels Coach Shop

Sometimes preserving old original horse wagons is more preferable than restoring them. Follow along in the building and restoring of horse drawn vehicles, with wheelwright, blacksmith, Dave Engel DBA Engels Coach Shop. This week's video continues on in the preservation process of an old original wood wheeled farm wagon in preparation to receive a restored sheep wagon body. This wagon will be for display purposes only, so restoration was not the desire of the owner.
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[@oc2phish07]

Dave, you always say "Thanks for watching" but we say, "Thanks for presenting". Another really engrossing video.

[@ryanbennett1402]

oc2phish07 I don’t think anyone could have said it better. Still curious about those dozen thumbs down. Igiots

[@ermelindowenceslauqueiroz8894]

E eu digo, muito obrigado pela postagem, suas histórias são interessantes. Greetings from Minas Gerais, Brasil.

[@enricovaliant3935]

When I saw you putting the wood piece in the sandblast booth, instead of metal piece, I thought, old Engel is loosing it. I quickly came to my senses and realized you were making this wagon old, not new. You are a master craftsman, sir!

[@genegoodman5233]

Enrico Valiant, we’ve been telling him that but he doesn’t think so. We know better and not of one trade but many.

[@johnking8679]

Gene Goodman, you are absolutely right !! Dave Engels is unequivocally a Master Craftsman !! I've watched a LOT of his videos and came to that conclusion a while ago !!

[@larryshaw6517]

Some parts of this thing we're only held together with memories.

[@eformance]

Hopes and dreams...

[@stephenbrown571]

Very old memories.

[@clydebalcom8252]

Sometimes that's enough. Memories and love.

[@Renville80]

larry shaw or, as a neighbor once remarked about the old shed behind his cabin, ‘spit and glue and wishes’.

[@moehoward01]

_"The Process of learning how wagons go together is taking them apart."_ That's what I told my Dad when I took is watch apart when I was 11.

[@TomLeg]

Then sometimes you're taking things apart and a few pieces separate before you can see exactly how they were connected .... that leads to the detective game.

[@dennissimmons9362]

Mine was Dad's alarm clock....ouch!

[@genegoodman5233]

They say, I rode my tricycle up to grandma’s sewing machine and took it apart. They say it took grandpa 2 days to put it back together. He didn’t have my knowledge of taking it apart.

[@nitro105]

Hi Dave really enjoy your videos even though I don't own a wagon, , I would really enjoy a video where you go thru a wagon running gear and name all the parts for those of us that don't know the correct terminology, thanks

[@brownsuspenders7793]

Greetings, Sir, without a doubt, you are the greatest one man show I have ever seen. THANK YOU for sharing your knowledge with us.

[@hermannstraub3743]

The other day i saw a car mechanic use a Induction Gun to lose Nuts. There is a coil and a strong electric current. Best is: only the metal is being heated so one could minimize burnmarks. Could be handy if you struggle often with this nuts.

[@clydebalcom8252]

You treat every vehicle with so much respect. You treat each one like it's alive, not just a collection of parts.

[@marlinkojak9882]

looking at the wagon and the shape it in remind me of being out at my grandpas farm long time ago i am 80 years old so you understand what i am saying

[@brucef]

It’s the mark of a master craftsman when, instead of a drill press, he casually uses a handheld drill to make multiple holes through a bit of timber that must, simply must, line up to the other side. Totally casual, perfect results. Well done Dave.

[@flywayhome8903]

Once again, Thanks for the video.

[@captainfancypants4933]

I like how you use hand gestures to show what you're going to be doing rather than long winded voice overs. Really enjoy watching you do your thing.

[@robertcoyle1532]

All those rusted bolts taken out without even one cuss word! Amazing!

[@oc2phish07]

Dave is a MASTER of the edit!

[@opendstudio7141]

Jesus watches the show. He knows.

[@Reziac]

Subject: rusted bolts. What would Jesus say? "Get thee behind me, Satan... and PUSH!"

[@pameladooley3858]

I never get over how you remember how all these parts go back together, God bless you and your family (David Dooley Bettendorf Iowa)

[@tomcarlson3244]

Very enjoyable. I didn’t realize all the metal and hardware holding the carriage together. I love to watch the amazing craftsmanship in building the things both originally and now watching you.

[@keithbrowning3899]

There are folks with the skill, there are folks with the attention to detail and there are folks with the patience, but it is a rare beast to find someone with all three in such abundance.

[@jeffclark2725]

Each video,another adventure inside the shop,

[@bullettube9863]

50 years as a mechanic here,,the last rusty bolt/nut is always the one that takes the longest to get loose. I don't know why, Murphy's law maybe? Good ole CRC is the best liquid tool, but when even CRC doesn't work it's time for the hot wrench. I like how even a mundane working wagon had artistic touches like rounding off the edges.

[@pittschapelfarm2844]

I think I've figured this out. You do wonderful work, but the real reason it's so soothing and interesting to watch you is because you're working and I'm not.

[@bearasojrnr]

Ha ha ha !

[@hitenmistry3479]

I have been washing these videos with my 2yr old son. He enjoys watching these videos as much as me. Something for all age groups. Thanks

[@rwagjr]

Finest KZbin history channel, Ever! If you don't watch closely you may have missed the historical reenactment of the moment when a Wainwright was first inspired to invent the steel toed boot! Love y'all so much. Shabbat Shalom to all from the Holy Land. 😊

[@retiredoregonfarmboy2872]

When I was growing up on our wheat farm, one of the land owners of a grain and cattle farm had never gone away from horses and wagons. Her hired man for cattle didn't drive and only used wagons and teams. He used three wagons for different hauling functions and primarily traveled on horseback. We worked with our choices of equipment to better enable him. Twine binder instead of baler, small chaff piles instead of large carts, ect. He had a full blacksmith shop and knew his business. We learned to love the man and his craft and worked with and assisted him for many years until his death. New owners and times have changed all that but I'm sure loving seeing many of the old pieces I've not seen for 45 years of more. You have the skill and patience of a master that I've observed before. God bless you.

[@AnessenAranion]

He blows my mind drilling all those holes from the blind side and hitting the target every time on the steel.

[@HWPcville]

I know how aggravating rusted nuts can be. I'm working on a boat trailer that has rust, corrosion and whatever that stuff is that develops when you join aluminum to steel with steel bolts & nuts. I bent the handle of a 1/2" pry bar then busted my good 1/2" drive ratchet trying to break the nut free. Thankfully the ratchet had a lifetime warranty and the manufacturer replaced it with no problem. Thanks for posting your always interesting work.

[@EngelsCoachShop]

Aluminum to steel is terrible huh.

[@cecillanter3207]

there is no way I could drill straight into the matching hole on the opposite side

[@RobertFay]

*You made me laugh, because i, too, know just how hard that is to do that, and how much practiced-skill it takes for Dave to do it so easily and well. (**20:36**)*

[@jeffjahns1974]

And he does that all the time in these videos. Im amazed every time. (Or wonder how many camera shots/pieces of wood he wastes getting the shot)

[@carlthor91]

I'm just wondering how many drill diameters I'd be off at the other end.👍 Best wishes all

[@Daniel-rb6vu]

he didn't drill all the way through..he drilled half way both ways and wollard the hole if it was off ..even if your off a 1/16 or a bit more they'll match up in the middle every time.. been there done that.. great vid ..ill be watching more..

[@raymonddrouin4997]

Cecil Lanter ´.

[@marlinkojak9882]

your show is so relaxing to watch and then the music puts me to sleep love it

[@davidbohner2061]

Love that belt sander and the size of the electric motor👍🏻👏🏻⭐️🎅🏻🎄

[@notsoserious0944]

That wagon's construction is exactly the same as the early production cars. Wood was used to save money and steel where strength was needed, when steel was getting cheaper every year. Now, it is completely flipped. The premium car brands add a dash of wood in select locations to indicate quality. Ironic and funny at the same time. Restorers find wood in car bodies up until the thirties and the Corvette used wood until the nineties. LOL.

[@bpfirehunt0192]

I really love watching u work your magic on those old relics from the past. Next time im in Montana id love to stop in and meet you. I made my way out there 15 years ago to fromberg/ bridger area for the 1st time and fell in love with the great state of Montana. Ive been through Joliet several times since then and didn't know about ur place or work then. When i retire i hope to make a more permanent stay in Montana. It feels like home and i always get depressed when i have to leave. Your work and videos bring me much joy and always leave me wishing i was there. Thank u for ur time and effort in putting together videos like this.

[@EngelsCoachShop]

You're welcome any time.

[@milantrcka121]

This is beyond craftsmanship. This is pure magic!

[@rickbrandt9559]

Never tire of the speedy hammer..

[@aerialrescuesolutions3277]

Excellent, I really like the vinegar and metal fillings bath treatment.

[@andrewmantle7627]

The rockabilly on the Rickenbacker in the background; loving it.

[@robertboreman7672]

A true master craftsman.Probably the last of his kind. No one teaches these trades anymore

[@williampugh6699]

I look forward to your Friday videos.

[@alasdairmunro1953]

Nice trick with the fillings and vinegar!

[@olddawgdreaming5715]

Hey Dave, really an awesome job you’re doing to preserve this old wagon. The work you are doing is beautiful and will be around for generations to come. Thanks for sharing with your videos and smithing abilities that are perfectly done ! 👍👍. Fred.

[@joopterwijn]

Man,... each video I’m watching, I’m mesmerized by your patience, persistence, skill, ... - fill in the blanks - ...

[@larryrowe5259]

Whenever I restore/ re-purpose something, I usually take lots of pictures with my phone before disassembling, because many weeks can go by before reassembling. Learned the hard way. Got my eye on a wagon that I want to restore. Thanks.

[@swannabe3764]

Dave you are so good you can use a punch to make holes in flat bar

[@EngelsCoachShop]

I was punching out the old rivets.

[@robcameron6995]

I look forward to Friday nights. Thanks

[@dale7436]

Dave, watching you coax those old nuts and bolts, my first reaction was to think about sending you my power tools that I hardly ever use but then I remember times working with the good old hand tools that gave me feeling, when to muscle and when to be gentle. The new tools are nice but Lord those old tools in the right hands, why, it brings tears to my eyes. To see someone with the hands of a master preserve as much of the memory of the original craftsman. Keep up the good videos, I'll continue to watch just so i can relive those GOOD OLD TOOLS.

[@EngelsCoachShop]

Thanks. Yes it's good to feel what's happening.

[@tpniefer]

Your caption of using CRC Screwloose briefly brought me up short. I thought for a bit you had been talking to my wife. On the serious side, I find your preservation and /or restoration videos equally as interesting as the new builds. Thanks for your time and effort in doing these videos for us. All the best to you and your family.

[@dcmkcbbq]

Years ago Machinist’s Workshop did a test on the best penetrating oil. The winner was 50% acetone/50% automatic transmission fluid. PENETRATING OIL - AVERAGE LOAD None - 516 pounds WD-40 - 238 pounds PB B’laster - 214 pounds Liquid Wrench - 127 pounds Kano Kroil - 106 pounds ATF / Acetone Mix - 53 pounds

[@steveshoemaker6347]

Thanks once again.....My friend....!

[@michaelrobertson8795]

That's awesome guys I do it every single chance I got.👍✌

[@johnbarham7718]

When do you think that wagon last came apart. When it was originally put together. You are truly a Master Craftsman

[@EngelsCoachShop]

It shows signs of other repairs some time ago.

[@johnbarham7718]

@@EngelsCoachShop I just wondered how long ago those bolts were last tightened.

[@slashusr]

Such a fine place to come and visit is Engels Coach shop. We may disagree on some things someone has told some of us are somehow suddenly important, but we're all in agreement on one thing: Dave needs a pair of steel-toed sneakers!

[@billy19461]

You never cease to amaze me with your skills!

[@janisadkison9136]

Wish I lived closer, I'd come sweep up or something, might learn something too. I love the old wagons, that's a fact. Much thanks for the videos.

[@Quadflash]

Wow! Dave's patience and skill with rusty bolts and rotten wood is amazing. Don't know know how he does it, but his craftsmanship has to be among the best there is.

[@cliffp.8396]

This wagon is going to make quite an impressive museum piece Dave. With proper care and humidity controls it'll be around in 100 years. Would it be improper for you to place your logo on a brass badge and mount it say under the an axle? It would make a nice legacy piece for you and your craft.

[@johngray8606]

Hi Dave, i'm a long retired machinist/ fitter, I love watching you work. I see you using principles I learned all those years ago, it's a real pleasure watching your videos. I'd love to browse around your machine shop for a few hours, I'd also love to experience the " smells". It would stimulate a lot of memories. Grateful thanks for sharing.👍👍👍👍👍

[@dloregon]

I like how you pay attention to detail, whether it is for actual use or just display.

[@frankgaletzka8477]

Hello Dave Thanks for showing us all that very good work you do I am glad to see it and it is a pleasure to listen to you All the best Greetings Frank

[@rickshipley7872]

Thankfully there are people like you with the know how to preserve where we came from.

[@ruthanncutler551]

The use of a stiff wire wheel to lightly brush the new replacement wood, will give you near the same effect of the rivers, and valley runs of the aged piece. Just a suggestion if you want a little more age to your piece. Which, by the way, is turning out quite lovely. Thanks for being history's life support.

[@thomaslemay8817]

It is much harder to disassemble old rusty bolts when you must avoid heat / fire. On stubborn nuts I have drilled a tiny hole in the side of the nut and applied rust penetrates through it. If that fails I cut the nut from the out side at the thin point then use a chisel to spread it. I love wagons, it's the power for them that I dislike.

[@darinb3524]

Thanks Dave

[@jamesmurphy6169]

The " Flame Wrench " always works. Great video. A friend of mine owns a Farm in SE Nebraska and there are wagon wheel ruts near a stream on his land that have been there since as long as anyone can remember. I think about the people and what they were like and their thoughts etc. I'm just a nostalgic old man. Have a blessed day.

[@philnbarbjohnson8097]

I am so impressed with all of the detail and craftsmanship that has to go into just one project. I hope I can make it by your coach shop some day.

[@genegoodman5233]

Dave, taking stuff apart is a learned process too. Being able to make parts that work when you don’t have a good pattern is part of what makes you a craftsman. I like your chose of tools, their the best I think. A lot of people would use air ratchets, and tear up 80% of the bolts. Soaking them for a month makes a big difference. I enjoy watching you work and thanks for letting us look over your shoulder. Stay safe my friend

[@merlincovlin4377]

It so great to see a real restoration..... Not just paint!!

[@FredCDobbs-mj7hn]

Always enjoyable to watch Mr.Dave on Friday nights. Just wish there were more Fridays....

[@tedlinzy5865]

This show is so good! Thanks for recording something that would other wise be lost.

[@charleshodge6202]

You are really an amazing craftsman. I enjoy every video.

[@mikeskelly2356]

A full set of 12 point sockets will handle every square nut, allowing you to use both ratchets and breaker bars...

[@TjeerdvanderMeulen]

It's a pleasure to watch your video's every week again. It always seems to put our hasty stressed life back into perspective right before the weekend.

[@fishntools]

Now there's a man who could certainly use some 8pt sockets! Luv your vids.

[@EngelsCoachShop]

I do have a number of them.

[@13NAKM]

You are just excellent, I marvel at the modern machines and amazed to see you. Never used a powered screwdriver. I confess never got tired of watching your superb skills. Thanks and God bless you 😇

[@jimallen9442]

Not had time to watch this yet but I know it will be top stuff as always. Thank you once again for taking the time to share your skill and patience with us all.

[@blipblip88]

So relaxing on a Friday night, drinking a cold beer, and watching you free up rusty nuts on a century old wagon! Good stuff-I love your videos!

[@hudson8865]

Thank you.

[@merumjpq]

You surprised me by saying you soaked some of these nuts for a month. I wouldn't have thought it took so long. Thank you

[@BillB23]

I suspect the record of taking them apart is very helpful in reassembly. Boy howdy, there's a lot of bits and pieces! When I started swinging a hammer for a living a man who'd been a carpenter since shortly after God invented wood told me that slow is smooth and smooth is fast. You, sir, are smooth.

[@joycewallace7306]

A true artisan. No one knows what it takes to be a Michael Angelo of wagon building (Restoration). Love your chair as nn

[@jakobrebeki]

thanks....

[@tomtruesdale6901]

Another great video, Thank you Sir

[@mikehillstrom8987]

I enjoyed seeing the broken brass valve stem used as a punch. I work on ships and there is usually a drawer full of them just for that.

[@WayneCook306]

Once Again thanks for the video...

[@ChefS.Keller]

Man, you speak so well

[@karriefalon7779]

When i wach ya. I so regret selling my Dad's old doule open end wrenches i had that were specically made with flat inner boxes to fit the old square head nuts on three sides. Allong with his axle nut wrenches. There was a few diffrent sizes of them it woulda just been a nice addition to your shop even as just stuff lol

[@ptk7240]

After spraying bolts use a brass brush to clean up threads first

[@scruffy6151]

I love seeing this channel grow and there is a good reason. You do not need or use sponsors to keep thing's going just as you did in the begining. Watching you work with wood and iron to make thing's usable again is a joy to watch.

[@EngelsCoachShop]

I get many offers but would rather not. It's not why I do it. Thanks for being here all this time.

[@scruffy6151]

@@EngelsCoachShop the channel's that once were good have gone down hill because, they cater to the advertising wimps. Then it become's a advertisement instead of what it started out to be. Ps then the truth is gone. God Bless and have a great day.

[@stephenrice4554]

Impressive as always 👍🇬🇧

[@davidcurtiscrowell5367]

As always Very impressive.

[@RobertFay]

*It felt to me like troublesome work, but satisfying, too, as it moved along to successes.*

[@kerrygleeson4409]

Always very interesting thanks for sharing 👍🇦🇺👀

[@tinachambers4887]

Nice work dave its coming right along have a day love from TEXAS

[@sonnyboy2273]

I never go weary of watching you work.

[@moebandy8274]

I am going to try that metal filings & vinegar 👍

[@stephaniewilson3955]

Very interesting. In the UK preservation does not include new timber. The Mary Rose is preservation on a grand scale.

[@freddiebates5539]

I enjoy all of your videos as usual, I hope some young people will watch and learn some valuable skills.

[@hacc220able]

Most Excellent - thanks

[@user-dk9st8vy3i]

👍 Thank you.

[@PRNadh]

excellent work done.

[@curtismuma1931]

I am sure you know this. They make 8 point sockets, you can use on a impact gun. They work great.

[@d.o.m.494]

So many pieces for something so "simple".

[@schrottmax5099]

a verry good craftsman......

[@easternwoods4378]

" The process of learning how wagons go together is taking them apart ". It helps if you can remember how it came apart. PS My son took everything apart and rarely put it back together. It started at 3 YO when he learned to take the training wheels off his bike