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[@OriginaldoBo]

So few clarifications for the inept... Video outsourcing typically takes places over seas. Philippines, India, and Vietnam these countries are where most will outsource too. Why ? because of the cost and the dollars worth in their countries. The biggest issue is many think they are going to make 1000 bucks every video thats not going to happen. See the realization is video isnt needed its a bonus.. Agents pay anywhere from 300 to 1500 depending on a home. When you are doing 20 plus properties a week you have to find ways to maximize time... hence editors get paid by the video. They dictate the pricing they want. This particular has a flat fee. Ok this edit... We give them a shot list prior to the files. We provided them all files to allow them to make the best judgment call on how they will arrange them. We asked for revisions which were never delivered, we asked for the project source file which was never delivered. So after all of that its just sitting down and editing it yourself 1 hour or so scoring music 1 hour strategizing the edit 1 hour color grading and correcting and lastly the ramps, transitions and graphics go in If you aren't in this industry you likely wont understand the fact that what we want and what a client wants is two different things. You have to do what makes the person paying happy which an edit like this is not my typical styling

[@CDigata]

Thats not coffee in that cup! ;)

[@beetlebailey]

I would edit it for FREE for a couple times til you like the work then accept pay, I edit as a hobby not as a full time job. Truck Driver Full Time..

[@beetlebailey]

Next time you have somebody edit your videos show them this video and say this is how you want your video to be done

[@AnthonyHarwood]

I didn't realize that you also scored the music. I'm impressed!

[@shaynekate7936]

@@beetlebailey &&!77

[@jeremydeihl]

Their song choice really killed it for me along with all the things you mentioned in the video. I have had these exact same issues with outsourced video editing and your video was 100x better. Great video

[@WorkingInTech]

Love the insight here, I'm interested in this type of work, and am always interested in your real estate videos. For someone who doesn't know the industry, to see your example is really helpful.

[@richryanphotography]

I outsource to an editor in Vietnam, both photos and video... my video editor has it back to me in about 3-6 hours. I am new to video, and dont have the skill set to edit the videos, and love the style my editor uses. we collaborated before hand of what I was looking for, then sent him some sample clips to make a sample and we tweaked that until it was exactly what I wanted. He also helped me, with settings, and ideas, and gives me tips after each video he edits for me.... Wouldn't be able to do video with out this at this time. Love the channel bro!

[@MyFlyingEyes]

What happens to you it happens pretty often. It happened to me as a music producer, I ended up spending more time redoing and correcting than if I do the whole project myself...Tthe reason for that is that there is only 1 person in the world that would put the same love that you put in your own work, and that is you. Probably when you watch someone else's portfolio you are watching to their own work, not something they just did for the money. When I was watching the 1st video I noticed that no drone shots were used at all... so they probably didn't even look at the drone clips folder...I asume that you fed them the directions about the kind of look and also the duration of the video but if not, that is something you might want to consider if you ever hire someone else. Give them as much information as you can about what you want. Anyway, thank you for taking the time to share your experience. Best !!!

[@ArtCoDroneAndEntertianment]

Ken you touched on many of my thoughts exactly. Your edit of the outdoor shots were perfect not over exposed and the pace was spot on. Thanks for the info.

[@andrewsaraceni]

Looks like they might not be familiar with grading log footage? I've seen similar noise issues where people hand correct/grade and don't crush the shadows, or slap any LUT on it without doing a basic Rec 709 conversion first. Either way, helpful to see the A/B comparison (your edit's a huge difference).

[@JeepTJWheelin]

I'm a novice editor but a long time tv tech having done studio and robotic camera for news and sports. With a discerning eye too, I found a lot of that outsourced editing was tough to watch. Obviously, your editing skills are at a very high level and once you reach this, it's impossible to settle for less. I just started my real estate video business and struggling with editing. Which is why I am definitely considering finding a highly skilled editor I can trust to do most of my editing. Especially as a dad who likes family time. Great video! 👍

[@RoccoRichardson]

right off the bat I would say - and Im posting this BEFORE I listened to your assessment.....1. NOISE ISSUES all over the place, not sure if they knew how to grade log footage but it looks like there was a lot of noise issues, first thing I noticed. 2. Drone shots last? which leads to 3. most of the video didnt feel like a Real estate video selling this property, it felt like an ad for an AirBnB to come and stay....too many long shots on things that wont be in the house - pots and pans, flowers, fountains, horses (granted new owners might have horses if they are buying a horse ranch.....but....I dont need to see the horses or the chickens in this real estate video. 4. Sound, OK its cool to add ambience, but I honestly didnt notice sound effects until the chicken and that felt really out of place. I would also say its too long? Most of the shots were repetitive and held too long and it made the video drag. My main complaint would be it didnt show off the property or the house enough. and the obvious....you can see the camera man in the mirror at one point.

[@SkeezyFPV]

Yeah I felt like the first video was an ad for pottery barn or William-Sonoma rather than a property. The speed ramps with the ceiling fans were horrible.

[@jnoreman]

Ken, thanks for sharing your thought process as well as your solid work.

[@Crulis]

Lesson learned! Thanks for sharing .

[@ferseoane]

Massive difference, Ken. I even seem to have seen some scenes in d-log in your outsource editor.

[@PhantomFPV]

I don’t do real estate but I learned a HELLAVA about editing. Thanks so much big dog! Always gotta improve them skills.

[@OriginaldoBo]

Every time I watch you fly I learn something so I appreciate the heck out of you

[@BigWaterUAV]

Great video and insight Ken! Always learning and teaching! Love the subject!

[@DorKProductions]

About to try out a pre editor. We did try having them do the finish product and we had the same issue as you. I think as a pre-editor, we will benefit to cut down our time. Our videos are not real estate and more wedding, quinces, commercial, and music videos. Since we have a format we believe they will help on the weddings & quince side which will help us focus on the others.

[@OriginaldoBo]

Yeah a base edit would even help

[@hybrydsanity5857]

less time for sure and the color you did was much better, sync to the music is an interesting tip i learned from this thanks !

[@RodneyBellco72]

Great video Ken. And I can appreciate your tips on outsourcing editing. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

[@AtlanticAerials]

I appreciate your insight on this after finishing watching it I hadn't really thought about the length of the video but it does make sense and You by far are the master at that because your video is definitely a plus rated

[@auomi8762]

great video! I'm learning how to shoot in log but would love to know why you had so much noise? Even with the final grade, there seemed to be lots of noise in the final edited video. Why is this? Asking as I'm trying to learn.

[@RecoveryoneDrone]

The obvious mirror Fubar, but to me the over use of speed ramping in every shot, The outdoor shots looked like raw D-log with no color grading.

[@allEPCs]

Great video and answers a question I was contemplating! More please on real estate videos!

[@OriginaldoBo]

depends on the editor like I said this is one experience one editor

[@airfoxphotography3882]

Thanks it was very interesting to watch.

[@moonshotsdrone]

This is just proof to the rest of us why you are successful and you have the followers that you have earned. Mr. Ken Sir your just flat out a BADD ASS!!! Thanks for sharing your talent with the rest of us cuz we appreciate it greatly!

[@OriginaldoBo]

Appreciate you dude!

[@michaltaraldset]

I LOVED your edit bigtime! Is there possible for you to make a speed ramp tutorial sometime in premiere pro? Also where do you get your woosh sounds from?

[@KnightmareOX]

Great edit on your part and I agree that while the outsourced one isn’t terrible (besides those mirror shots) the video felt too slow, and had too many speed ramps that didn’t make sense.

[@CamWho1225]

I have this struggle! I tried one time To use a video editor for my RE work and I hated the final result. Went back and forth with the editor and still couldn’t capture my vision. Ever since then I just can’t especially when real estate professionals come to you for your style! Appreciate everything you do bro !

[@OriginaldoBo]

Thanks man! Yeah I was curious and this cured my thoughts

[@jgalbreath]

Mannn!!! You nailed that edited! 👍🏾

[@PowderMill]

Great video!! Thanks

[@PowderMill]

QUICK QUESTION. How much $$ is the home listing for? My wife fell in love with it. BUT... I'm not sure if I can handle the FREEDOM of Florida. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Thanks .

[@txarchdroneguy4731]

Great information, Ken. Similar to editing, as an architect, I’ve never found a good company to provided outsourcing for construction documents. Our services always needed “hands on” supervision, however, with multiple revisions, I have used good renderers for color renderings, but not always on a timely basis.

[@underthedrone2735]

These instructional videos you do are my favorites. Because I have full respect for your professional RE filming and editing ability I trust your judgement in making an average looking real estate video look extraordinary. Well done... again! You deserve the accolades you get in your chosen profession. I'd say you got your $50 worth in the learning experience alone. Good on ya for sharing it with us. I hope you produce more of this kind of content in the future.

[@Bdzynes]

Nice info video on why after hearing a customers desires...hand it over to someone who has no clue of their vision. I actually enjoyed both videos. Sure edit out the mirror captures as well as a little shorter clips yet both would sell just fine. Maybe it wasn't up to your specs, yet that's why you do it yourself. I might have a team working with me on my edits, yet they all are on point, and share the clients vision. Every artist has its own style. Ever think Picasso criticized a Van Gogh? Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

[@OriginaldoBo]

This was a well balanced comment and appreciate the feedback

[@sirhilsam]

It is only after viewing the out sourced video do you see the precision of yours. 100% efficient.

[@SCAerialsSteveCarpenter]

Hey Ken. Thank you for this hands-on instructional video. Yes, you are picky, but your name is on the final product for a good reason! Hopefully, you'll find an editor that you can work with local and work together, so they know exactly what you and your client want. Well Done!

[@BlueEyeVisuals]

It appears that all the drone footage was shot in LOG and the editor only bumped up green saturation.

[@blainerodenbaugh1565]

Very informative . . Although I'm not in this business, I did see the many flaws you mentioned. To sum it up, the first video was, for lack of better words, boring. I understand a little more now what you do for a living. Thanks for sharing

[@mlunden11]

Hey ken great job. Ur edit u did was awesome u showed everything nice and fast. John

[@kevinwells4986]

Inept vendor, or ill informed (no one told them)? I hope they see your video. Also I love your divisiveness. You tell it like it is. I used to do circuit design, and circuit board layout. I began a company doing that service when PCs were just introduced. Eventually India was a great draw for outsourcing - a primary one actually. We were close to doing it (my own company then), by recommendation from an ex-employer of mine, and during evaluation we realized we could not resolve design issues. If they totally messed up the design, even though we received the finished files, it would take at least twice as long to fix a serious problem as it would to just do it ourselves. We ended up hiring local contractors, and controlling them through supervision during the process. We called them consultants, but really we consulted with them to make sure it was done right. We ended up with great help, but we had to help them get there. We may have lost out on some profit, but we did not lose our customers. The contracts we received were of significant value, but what I like most about you is that you (like us then) value your customer even more. Good video once again.

[@Bill14886]

You crushed it Ken. Your a Pro . Pure top notch talent. Live in a learn . That editor could have gave it a second try and made it doable but you know what clients love. He has talent just needs more guidance.

[@daves9551]

Very nice re-edit! I gotta tell you, After the first glimpse of you in a mirror, I went from looking at the house to trying to find you in every window and mirror. Lol!

[@muzikmon2267]

Maybe not what the client wanted but I can tell you watching that video I didn't notice you in the camera, and I didn't notice the noise.. Not until you pointed it out I was looking at the house and what it was I wasn't looking at those specific things. And this is what I've always said about the public. All these differences that everyone freaks out about when it comes to 1080p, 4K, 8K noise, when you zoom in Most people almost all regular people who are looking at these videos. THEY DON'T CARE And they don't notice it... We know that you guys do.. But what's more important is if the people notice And almost always they never do... ;) But it is great that you're a consummate professional trying to get things perfect.. But it's really sad in a lot of ways because sometimes all these efforts are for not... But It does clean your conscience. And they have done these tests over and over again with regular people AB comparisons and really no one notices..

[@belovedLion80]

Great Lesson

[@Jasonmoussa1]

awesome video! yours looked so much better and marketing is a double edge sword so good thing you didn't send that other one

[@mattbouvetnetwork6518]

Good share here. Too bad the editor fell short on your dime but the project you finished looked great.

[@GregorPQ]

Yes, it's like night and day. Fun to watch and appetizing.

[@babajao]

thank you for this bro. Thinking of getting in the business. please give us more vids like this 👍🏾

[@jasone6930]

I feel your pain. I don't have the skills for video editing and I paid for "trials" from different editors I found online. All the same footage and got very different results. Onshore pricing is much higher with similar results. It's frustrating when I see killer videos like yours and no one to do them for me at an affordable price. (Some wanted to charge more than I made on my whole photo/video/drone package!) This is the main reason I focus on photos and tend to avoid video.

[@KardosoMedia]

When you’re used to a certain level of quality in your videos you definitely will notice these things. It’s almost a curse and a bonus at the same time when you’re a video editor because you notice things that 90% of other people won’t. But like the saying goes if you want something done right do it yourself. Cheers brother

[@OriginaldoBo]

Eddie and I were just talking about this.. I noticed these things and Im sure my peers in the county would of noticed something was up

[@AerRider]

1) I would have thought that if you sent them some samples of finished vids, they would be able to emulate it. 2) $50… you get what you pay for. 3) Enjoyed your final work. Great shooting, BTW, which we get to see in his longer, slower cuts. So your audience benefits from that!

[@OriginaldoBo]

So 50$ is 2678 Philippine Pesos.. the people that do these edits are typically over seas and work in large teams. This is all they do so 50 is perfectly normal pricing. Also depends on the editor they assign these too. However because I cranked out an edit they never provided me a revision which I would of loved to see

[@808-Stat3]

I actually thought they just left ur log footage of ur drone untouched buahahahaha . The color shift in the kitchen happens when a LUT is applied and toned down to 45% intensity. During rendering some footage switches color. I had that happen to me in davinci resolve a few times till I figured it out. And yes .. it was wayyyy too long lol .

[@imr0y]

Any tips on removing the grain from the pool table?

[@OriginaldoBo]

They had to change something with the luminance to introduce it

[@SunriseWaterMedia]

Great video, Ken. I'm taking notes from your edit.

[@SpineGevity]

Great contrast comparison between a “good” vs “great” product that is ready for delivery to your client. Unless the outsourcing editor is willing to follow your criteria exactly- you will frequently be disappointed. I have had the same experience when it seemed my requirements were ignored just so they could deliver a finished product. By then, you are squeezed for time and it’s safer just to do the edits yourself. Thanks for teaching the difference.

[@OriginaldoBo]

That’s exactly what happened, by the time you ask for revisions etc your already at that crunch time

[@DroneManMurphy]

I don’t know if you sent them a sample link to what you wanted ahead of time but yes communication is key and it is very difficult for them to know what we want never having worked for you before. This video is great other than the mirror mistakes and in some other markets probably would’ve been perfect. But if it’s not what you need it’s not what to want. Maybe if you try to outsource in the future send this video to them and let them see an example of the final product you like! 😊👍

[@OriginaldoBo]

Yeah sent them quite a few samples so they had a good base line

[@SkeezyFPV]

I know this is a four month old video but why the mustardy diarrhea color in brown and yellows in the first video? It truly looked like ‘shit’. And $50 in PI is like a million freaking dollars. Ken, you do a great job. But that doesn’t leave an excuse for a video editor not to do just as good of a job. It’s kinda what they are supposed to do. Do you think you’d have more control working with an outside editor if it was done as a shared project in premier pro cc? I’m starting an aerial imaging service in Western New York (Buffalo) and your videos have been instrumental in my business plan. Thanks again for the great content bro!

[@MrEddieNunez]

I don’t know how they managed to introduce all this noise, unless they were raising the shadows and blacks tremendously

[@Flyit37075]

When matching beat, do you put your music track into the time line first, then edit video changes by cutting at the beat spikes on the audio track ? For video are you still using Fuji XT-4 on Ronin gimbal ? looks smooth. Thank you !

[@OriginaldoBo]

Usually before I film a house I score music for it. I’ll canvas it. This time I didn’t do that but yes I lay the music in the timeline and expand the wave form looking at the beat cuts

[@Flyit37075]

@@OriginaldoBo Thank you ! I have watched your channel for nearly 2 years, your shares have guided and influenced my start, equipment purchases and progress in real-estate work. This latest episode really shows me where I want to be. Thanks so much.

[@tbirdfpv6187]

The speeding up and downs with the fans was crazy

[@SkeezyFPV]

Yeah that should have been cropped out imo. I think speed ramping works best without any external motion ‘giving it away’ so to speak like the fan did. That bothered me more than anything else. It looked very amateur to me.

[@OriginaldoBo]

You can ramp with fans however has to be done correctly

[@krazywabbit]

My first impression of “their” edit was the music used. I didn’t think it was terrible until I saw your edit. WOW! Right to the point, music and fx were a TON better. Strong work sir! (Peter McKinnon would approve of the pace!)

[@MediaByMatias]

Love this video and seeing i’m not the only one who can’t find a good video editor. I tried a good one just as you did and paid 50+ and ended up having to edit something myself, i’m baffled they’re able to charge 50-150$ for an edit and it still doesn’t come out great. The noise and color grading is the part that always gets me. I don’t know how they get so much noise and get the WB so off. I’m trying to improve my quality for video and I recognize my editing skills aren’t there yet. Any tips for editing especially when it comes to avoiding the noise and nailing the color ?

[@OriginaldoBo]

I think they raises the luminance in the walls to give the appearance it was brighter. You can tell as the color shift in the bedroom is terrible. I use slog 3 and aim for 2 stops over exposed

[@MediaByMatias]

@@OriginaldoBo Thanks for the tips !

[@trosencrantz]

What lens do you use on these wide angle room shots?

[@rashadpennphotography]

Recently found your page good explainations not sold yet for a subscribe but getting there. Your edit was very concise with way better color however it seemed darker. I suspect the noise in the first video was because they tried to lighten the shadows too much. Would like to know more about the difference in color and contrast. Oh and yeah the reflections in glass and mirror was ridiculous. WHYYYY did they leave those in? Too often editors edit but never shoot nor deliver to a client so they just dont get it.

[@OriginaldoBo]

I usually film in S-Log 3 expose for the brightest window. Typically 1.2 to 2 stops over slog 3 on the newer cameras is good. They had to bump the luminance in the house to create that noise. Even with me pulling the exposure there was no noise which I though was interesting

[@rashadpennphotography]

@@OriginaldoBo i see and yes upon a re-watch now i can see that difference which makes sense. Thanks for the explanation appreciate it.

[@Kana7782]

Agreed about being too fast paced. I couldn’t enjoy each room

[@greenlightstudios3469]

YOurs looks good for sure, Maybe a little dark for my liking but natural. I like starting outside and not right for the front door, that way you can get a lay of the land and understand what you are looking at.

[@OriginaldoBo]

I was trying to protect the window highlights best I could

[@YellowRoseDrones]

I didn't really notice anything wrong with their video, other than it was longer than I would have done. But once you pointed things out, then compared it to the version you did, the difference is very clear. I don't know that I would have been willing to edit the video for only $50 however. Keep up the good work.

[@OriginaldoBo]

in countries over seas thats more than here hence why outsourcing doesnt take place in the states

[@ScottGeorgeson]

I think their video looks overexposed grainy and to many ramps are to fast and repetitive.. and too long... Would you consider an editor for Photos?

[@Joe_Fotoleo]

I thought there's was decent, but yes I saw some flaws. The ones you pointed out are also really helpful in things to watch out for in my own work flow. Your edit was amazing, too. Really a big difference. Nice work! 🤘

[@Joe_Fotoleo]

also Ken, my DJI FPV fly more kit just arrived from Drone-Works...should have the actual quad in a few days! Can't wait!

[@patrickeul]

More vids like this... More vids in general! Love your channel.

[@OriginaldoBo]

Yeah I want to start doing more critical break downs the stuff not being talked about

[@sparx-86]

it wasnt that bad. the mirrors were the worst part, i didnt notice noise and color shift until you called it out. it was too long, and they did show too much though. but in the end it looked good, just minor flaws and not what the customer wanted.

[@loudandclearmedia]

Okay, I’ve now watched their edit and have not yet heard your thoughts or seen your edit. Here are my thoughts on the outsourced edit. First off, I need my eyes to readjust after being blasted by light. Taking the whole thing down at least a stop would make a huge difference for the better. The other global thing I didn’t like is how there’s a speed ramp on nearly every shot. Because of this, I feel like I don’t know what the house looks like, only that I might hit my head while orbiting a frying pan. Now to some of the individual shots… That is quite a poor choice for an establishing shot, especially since the first thing I see is the photographer in the door reflection. That shot would’ve been better a few shots in and trimmed to roll after you walked through the reflection. Noise, most egregiously on the pool table, and lastly I’m not really diggin the ice cream truck soundtrack, but that’s a personal choice. All in all I’m 100% with you. These videos are quick turnaround which means there will be some rough edges to them, but this was absolutely undeliverable.

[@OriginaldoBo]

This is where my issue occurs with scaling… get so busy and can’t be everywhere at once. This time it cost me time

[@Bill14886]

My 1st time ever watching a real-estate video. 1st one looked really cool. I like it a lot. Nice job. DEFINITELY HAD EXSPOSURE ISSUES , NOT COLOR GRADED LIKE YOUR DO.

[@Voyagephotography]

Here’s a question. Cause I just went through the exact same thing recently. Do you pay them or not if you’re not going to use the product they created? Like having to pay for a shitty steak at a restaurant. It doesn’t happen. You don’t have to pay for the shitty steak. So what happens in this instance..pay or not?

[@OriginaldoBo]

I paid them and asked for revisions never got them which is annoying. Their communication was horrible

[@Voyagephotography]

If you had the choice and they did the work then asked for payment..would you of paid? I’m assuming you wouldn’t of. Which I didn’t pay them not one cent. Now they’re slandering me to my clients they found on my IG. Threatening me to pay otherwise they’ll continue to contact clients. Lol! Crazy ass shit

[@braddahkai]

My unprofessional opinion is, 1st seemed to bright, outside shots looked washed. But dude, at mark 6:02 that fade, NO. 2nd video was nice and rich. I enjoy seeing your work. Keep it up, keep it unfiltered.

[@TroySwezey]

You could perhaps write the $50 off as 'education expense' as it did teach you something and was a matter of you seeing what the 'competition' was doing. (I am NOT an accountant or tax specialist, so consult a professional. Just saying what I may do in this situation.)

[@scottievee330]

The noise was ridiculous but a $50 edit is what you got. Someone willing to do it for that should have been the alarm bell. JMHO.

[@FrankieAdams-FGV]

Damn your edit was on beast mode...do you charge for your edits??

[@JimmyJinIA]

Kudos man, you have some pretty high standards...which is commendable and appreciated. Gotta say though if I was spending $1M I could see what was for sale, but you're comments are 100% valid (too long, color shift, etc). Final video is soooo much better. And as a result I realized I'll probably never be a 'great' editor...☹️ I'd still buy the house with either video, but yours sold me...lol! Ugghh...4 hours...damn!

[@jamesdansereax]

Editing 30 sec commercials helps a lot to learn flow

[@alexannis4740]

Two advices, 1, Trust no one. 2, Go back to number one.

[@cspencer9141]

Honestly I didn’t think the outsourced version was bad, but it WAS too long. And I would not have noticed you in the mirrors until you pointed it out. Gotta agree that your edit was definitely better. Just shows that you are a pro at this and have high standards which will only increase your business. What’s the old adage about if you want it done right do it yourself, or something like that.

[@OriginaldoBo]

Yeah that’s sometimes the way it goes, you gotta do it yourself

[@DoronBond]

Dude you’re in Tampa?! I’m in St. Pete!! Definitely would like to connect!!

[@OriginaldoBo]

💯

[@KNIGHT-FLIGHT]

Glad you let your beard grow back,,, you was looking real clean cut there for a minute... You seemed like Neo decided to take the green pill...😅🤣😂🤣😅🤣😂🤣😅🤣😂 DOBO,,,How you been Player,,, come on back to the coffee beans Bro,, ill be here waiting for ya...

[@OriginaldoBo]

I’m going to take you up on that coffee brother

[@RonaldBrown59]

Your edit was much better, when you showed the outsourced video and could see way to many speed ramps. And it was way to long also, your version was perfect. Thanks for sharing.

[@OriginaldoBo]

Thanks Ron appreciate you

[@takeone22]

finding a good video editor on a "low budget" is harder than finding a true love :-) your editing is 10 times better

[@georgefranklin2430]

Transitions and overuse speed ramping

[@maximumdrone5334]

I find your edit much better Ken! But I think the cuts should be on the beat and sometimes they are not. Example @10:42 it,s not tight on the beat sadly and that annoys me as an editor myself haha But overall, great job (Maybe its just KZbin who screw it over also)

[@OriginaldoBo]

might be KZbin, But client delivery always goes through Vimeo

[@maximumdrone5334]

@@OriginaldoBo Yeah Vimeo is way better to keep the quality haha. Keep up the great work Ken! Love your videos :)

[@JordanHandwerker]

Those whip pans at the beginning make me dizzy 😵‍💫

[@tfdrealestate6238]

Here is my advice for outsourcing editing for real estate videos: 1. Don't hire someone completely new, last minute and expect them to know exactly what you and the client want. (I understand you were in a pinch and had to try) 2. Plan in advance, Post a job ad, request samples and provide test photos to be edited and submitted with application (if also hiring for photo editing) 3. Narrow down your candidates, offer 2-3 people a FULLY PAID test job. One that you also have time to edit yourself to deliver to client if the tests come back terrible. 4. Pay more. I pay $100 per video edit & $50 per photo batch. (keep in mind this is CAD) but this is also approx 30% of what I make for each service respectively. The upsells with floor plans, drone, agent hosting etc is how I make up my margins. 5. Hire and editor! Not a one-off job. Find someone who is onboard for semi-consistent long term work who you can offer X amount of hrs per week to incentivise them to adapt to your style of editing and have them go through several of your videos to help get that down pat. Coach along the way. I mean this all respectively - but this helped me find a QUALITY editor to take the majority of my editing work off my plate and was a game changer for scaling. . . and my mental health. Worth the investment fo the test edits etc. All the best

[@beldavius]

I think a lot of what I pick up on are personal preference here, but didn't like the music and I feel like a lot of the sound effects were overdone. I thought the color grading on the drone footage was horrible, and on some of the inside shots the editor did not edit out shots with your reflections in the mirror at least twice. There also seemed to be something strange going on with the color on the pool table, but I can't be sure if that was the edit or not (guess I'll see when I watch your video!)

[@beldavius]

So you nailed the video! The colors were so much better and no noise. Also, I want to buy that house. Is it in or near Tampa? We currently have 2 horses in NH, and I fear I won't be able to convince my wife to move unless we can bring the horses!

[@pj.pavadore]

Do you use after effects to reduce noise?

[@OriginaldoBo]

No, I use a program called neat video. Neat video is quite amazing

[@pj.pavadore]

@@OriginaldoBo thank you! I did some night time footage and was looking for a solution. Gonna try it

[@GolferChris68]

I was surprised by the low $50 charge until I saw the clarification about the overseas outsourcing. It would be interesting to send video to several different outsourcers, at different price levels, to see how each does versus their cost. Besides the other issues pointed out... the color grading (if there was any) on the outsourced edit of the drone footage was a mess. If I had a company selling property on a regular basis, receiving that original edit would have me looking elsewhere for this service.

[@OriginaldoBo]

Vietnamese

[@Tropicusa]

$50 learning Experience! Nice Job on the Editing!

[@Krunked]

the compression or bitrate they rendered at is bad, everything looks multi-pathed with rainbows haha.

[@OriginaldoBo]

They added the analog filter 😂

[@Krunked]

@@OriginaldoBo haha mufuckers lol

[@robweaver9953]

Needed a decent aerial establishing shot or two. The over use of ‘accelerated’ movements within rooms and between rooms, combined with other movements, almost made me dizzy. The music sucked.

[@OriginaldoBo]

Aerials we’re tough here for a few reasons.. capped at 50 ft sadly

[@JasonLavarias]

Great comparison and redo of the video! I'm happy that you maintained your standard of excellence for your client. Hopefully the "hired help" you had, learned something from you for their future. Liked & subscribed from this video. I too have learned something new! $50 investment for knowledge that if you want something completed to your standard, that they need to be on YOUR team! #leadership Thank you.

[@dan8402]

Story Time: If you want something done right, do it yourself! COMMENTS ON VIDEO BELOW Honestly though. If OrigionaldoBo called me up and said hey, can you edit my video? I would shit myself. Then I would watch 10 or more hours of his videos. If he has specific LUTs that he uses, I would need those for color grading so that it matches his other videos. COMMENTS ON VIDEO: I stopped at 7:40 to put in my comments prior to hearing your take. Let's see if I was right. 4:39 Dissolve transitions. You use the swipe transitions to go from exterior to interior. 4:44 speed ramp hell! hard cuts from one space or position to another. Needs to slow down. 5:27 what is wrong with the exposure. I would think we would have adjusted things so the windows wouldn't look so blown out. Also speed ramping from one room to another. I would have broken them down show different rooms. 5:30 Yeah that master bathroom is amazing!!! 6:06 What kind of dissolve was that?? You never use that. 7:00 Reaching into my drawer for some Dramamine! Does my chair have a seatbelt??? 7:12 looks like it was shot in log and then no color grading and thrown into production WTF! Here are things I would have done to be a little better: I probably would have gotten a pull up shot of the driveway or approach to the home in the beginning, to round out the video. Use a side swipe from exterior to interior. Get a shot of the running faucet in the kitchen. Close ups of the appliance brand names. No SPEED RAMPS! Or at least not so many. Rooms are each separate shots, no going from one room to another. Post production exposure and color grading so the lighting can color carries though the whole film. These video are not meant to show every square inch of a home. It is like a good burlesque dance. It is enough to make you want to throw some money at it. Call the realtor and book a showing. MY TAKE ON THE DOBO VIDEO: I guess the customer wanted fast, so while smoother for sure, it isn't my taste. But if the customer is happy that is what counts. Color and exposure are much much better. It seems like you bounced between the pool and equine area to the front of home a couple of times, so it felt a little redundant. I probably would have given each area a little more time, and then move to the next area. Maybe mix in the aerials going from the front of the home to the pool then to the barn. I know this video was edited probably at 2 am with you cussing up a storm at having spent money on an edit that sucked.

[@msd835]

They also reverse-speed a lot of water footage, which turned out super weird as water is flowing from low to high... Wait, they only charge 50??? Guess my mom is right; you get what you pay for...

[@WindWalkerDrones]

For me before I watch yours I had a few things i didn't like. 1 way too long. 2 it looked grainy in a lot of spots. 3 No description at all. 4 Me personally I didn't like some of the transitions, but that's my personal taste. 5 Goes along with number 4. The transitions that were used took away from the flow. Again my personal taste. 6 goes along with 3 no mention of the reality company or listing agent. Otherwise it was ok. Granted these are things the realtors I work with expect. I by no means have the quality that you do or the equipment to do really great quality editing, but the realtors I work with are satisfied so I guess that's what counts.

[@tkimagesmedia3960]

Your edit was night and day different (better) that the outsourced version. I'm going to assume you shoot in a flat profile. They didn't seem to know how to manage that footage which is probably why there were odd colors and noise. Either way theirs was flat. This is why I always just edit my videos myself. I'm slow but normally get them exactly how I want them.

[@Bannisterpost]

I dont know I agree with the sentiment here but I’d find it hard to edit someone’s video for $50. It wasn’t good agreed but at minimum if it took you 4 hrs to cut we can assume you’re a “senior” editor in this situation so an intermediate would take longer like 8hrs lets say. I work in vfx outsourcing so the wages may be higher but lets say 40-50/hr $200-$400 seems fair for a good, and I mean a GOOD edit. So not knocking anything I wouldn’t outsource this stuff wither unless like a Bardwell I had an editor I’m familiar with. The amount of notes I give on a shot in a day is insane when its outsourced overseas its brutal.

[@OriginaldoBo]

Read the pinned comment I further explained. The editor was based in the Philippines. The only thing they do is real estate. $50 to them is 2600 pesos essentially and cost of living compared to the states is relative. 1200-800 there can last a month. They work in teams. What I’ve noticed is many don’t understand this business and this particular genre in regards to video. You aren’t going to make money editing but as teams they do.

[@Bannisterpost]

@@OriginaldoBo yeah sorry I read it after but felt it was still somewhat relevant. I work with companies in India a lot for roto it's about 1/4 the cost but the level of "care about your work" is less than zero. It's hard to keep motivating those that just don't care about the art.

[@BAMDrones-MichaelBelshe]

Ok before I watch your video I'll say what I saw in the first video. I didn't like the rapid movements around. I didn't like how he transitioned from one area to the next. Finally, I saw you filming in two different mirrors.

[@BAMDrones-MichaelBelshe]

Ok, now I know why the rapid movements! My eye just doesn't catch the color shifts that you talk about. I have a lot to try and learn! Thanks for sharing!