Why Pak Sao Isn't A Part Of Jeet Kune Do

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[@charleslaures]

"Its better to attack another opening than create a new opening, because while you are creating that opening, you are vulnerable to an attack". i love it. This is like water. You block it and it will just find another path. Thank you Sifu!

[@christhecelt]

Uncomplicated, and simple, Many thanks. 👍🏻

[@thomasthorne4010]

One word: Efficiency

[@guererodelluz]

I'm not an expert but I'm always thinking in terms of principles as I was taught and directness is one of them. I took about 20 private lessons in wing tsun from a Swiss German teacherbin Thailand (for some reason whenever it's German lineage I see on youtube the principles are there and what they do is efficient, and 90 %of wing chun videos out there even from famous Chinese teachers are rubbish and betray basic principles)... Anyways in these introductory lessons , the first think I learned is that contrary to popular belief the pak Sao is not a block amd that for those who understand the art there are no blocks on Wing tsun... The pak Sao he said is a punch or a finger jab , because if you can "pak" past his centerline ( like water doest stop) you can cut his punch by going forward to eyes or throat, and shouldn't even be thinking about it. So he's never thinking of a block but a centerline attack, if it reaches target game over if not the next one is already there.

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[@SenseiMaharaj]

Greatly explained about why "Pak Sao" has rejected in JKD. "When there's opening, don't try open"... That make sense. And it's a direct and simplistic approach. And that's JKD. Thanks a lot sir! Peace and harmony, Sensei Maharaj 😊

[@infectionsman]

The main thing that always bothered me with these wing chun guys starting in that arm to arm position is that you would have to circle around the opponent to the outside just to get there in the first place.

[@luxurybuzz3681]

I use Pak Sao in BJJ Tournaments and MMA fights all the time. Someone comes up to clinch me I do a Pak and now they're in my clinch or I go for a Judo throw/trip. Great against the cage.

[@kennethwong3747]

Absolutely practical and effective. For sure.

[@realamericannegro977]

Yep if you see and opening there is no need to pak so.

[@pascal0868]

I remember seeing a black and white photo of Bruce when he was very young doing a pak sao and kicks a wooden dummy leg..beautiful. I loved pak sao. I secretly loved bong sao as well. But seriously I think these shapes were designed to operate in close range and represent transitional positions. You can see in chi sao. This is a dangerous range happens to be clinch range. Trying to make it work in boxing range results can be seen on KZbin challenge matches.

[@benjaminboot2340]

Pak sao is one of the main techniques used in medieval sword and dagger fighting. kzbin.info/www/bejne/sKmunJ-ZhZKdoac How do you explain this?

[@ThomasMarxJeetKuneDoIFO]

Look at fencing, how fast that goes. You really think you'd pull that off for real...

[@benjaminboot2340]

@@ThomasMarxJeetKuneDoIFO Clinching is not allowed in fencing. Did you watch the link I posted? kzbin.info/www/bejne/sKmunJ-ZhZKdoac

[@leenvdsteeg8147]

Pretty cool clip. I never thaught of it in that context. People in medieval Times did not play around.

[@ericmeric1920]

In my opinion, in self defense situations, clinching range is usually where its at. Few styles really teach this. Wrestling, Judo, Muay Thai come to mind. All of these use a elbow push similar to what they do in the fencing clip. Never knew they called this Pak Sao in CMA.

[@ThomasMarxJeetKuneDoIFO]

@@ericmeric1920 people want to do all kind of stuff, instead attacking direct the targets. They rather want make circles around it before. Its like Hollywood.

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[@UrbanAghora]

Great

[@Mrmemphisbones]

Sifu, just a quick question, i was wondering do you practice jao sao (running hand) in your JKD or is it out like pak and lap ? It can be nicely done even with boxing gloves on. Thanks in advance for your reply, i really enjoy your videos.

[@ThomasMarxJeetKuneDoIFO]

Thanks! No, we don't practice any wing chun.

[@Mrmemphisbones]

@@ThomasMarxJeetKuneDoIFO Thanks for your reply, i really liked the analogy that Sifu Tommy used about JKD and wing chun, that wing chun is the core, but we eat the fruit and throw the core away. Sometimes i feel i really need to empty my cup, and try accepting the fact that some parts of my JKD knowledge might be actually old and outdated....

[@ThomasMarxJeetKuneDoIFO]

Yes Bruce said that, relation between JKD and WC is like apple to its core. You take the core out, what is left is the nice softy apple.

[@ThomasMarxJeetKuneDoIFO]

It basically means, his martial art development started with WC, it developed around it, later on he moved away from it entirely as the development went into entirely different more practical direction.

[@realamericannegro977]

I can see this still has its uses but you are most likely be set up to hit first anyway

[@elsorzis5692]

My friend, this is not how Pak Sao works. Of course it won't work if you do it like that. I don't blame you. You probably learned all this from someone else, but this is not Wing Chun. With all due respect, please investigate further before telling people why their martial art does not work when you don't understand it fully.

[@WingChunGungFu]

Yeah when you do pak sau like THIS it’s not going to work. Pak sau is just the wing chun name. Pak sau in correct application is really just a parry used by many arts and combat sports.

[@ThomasMarxJeetKuneDoIFO]

Really, parry is something totally different. Pack Sao works only if opponent leaves his arm long enough out, which nobody does who attacks you.

[@WingChunGungFu]

@Professor Tell us, what am I wrong about?

[@WingChunGungFu]

@@ThomasMarxJeetKuneDoIFO You don’t understand pak sau. What you were taught is not pak sau. It was a watered down modification from multiple generations of JKD practitioners. This is why you posted this video. It simply shows your misunderstanding of a technique you were never taught correctly from an art you never actually learned.

[@ThomasMarxJeetKuneDoIFO]

Why slapping the arm, if you can slap the target. By doing so, you are giving the opponent additional opportunity to attack. Simple math.

[@minecraftotalwar]

Could you talk about the possibility of using "trapping" more like some real fighters do it, like Vasyl Lomachenko: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oWfWZ2WNhLlqjqM

[@ThomasMarxJeetKuneDoIFO]

Boxers don't use trapping, they parry.

[@minecraftotalwar]

@@ThomasMarxJeetKuneDoIFO I know, but look at the way Vasyl use his lead arm like a fencer do. Please watch the analysis in the video. Could you talk about how to implement those with jeet kune do?

[@ThomasMarxJeetKuneDoIFO]

He is angling of and using footwork, that's pretty good...