Origins of Yoshinkan Aikido

[@Currawong]

Unfortunately, we now know that Takeda Sokaku was not a samurai. A genealogist specialising in Japanese family histories discovered that he changed his name from the "commoner" Takeda -- 竹田 -- to the samurai Takeda -- 武田 -- to give his art authenticity. None of his arts were secretive. In feudal Japan, everything was heavily documented, so that myth has been thoroughly busted. Alongside that, he made up many of the techniques -- the ones that weren't from Sumo and other arts. That being said, what he did was quite brilliant in many respects, and he is recorded as having taught 30,000 or so people in Japan.

[@joshuabrant3487]

If this is true it kind of explains how aikido is less legitimate than judo and karate lol

[@meg4m4nex7]

Could you provide a link to that information?

[@Catsincages]

As you have provided no evidence, despite being asked to do so, nobody should believe a word you say.

[@Currawong]

@@Catsincages You don't have to take my word for it. Plenty of people have done the research into the origins of Aikido and Daito Ryu. Start with "Hidden in Plain Site" by Ellis Amdur, for example.

[@JustMe-vz3wd]

Sokaku Takeda created Daito Ryu Jujutsu himself. Thats nothing unusual, all jujutsu have been created. Sokaku did train bujutsu since childhood though and he was a genuine martial arts genius...

[@RyanSlavin]

Love the video. If ever on Australia's Sunshine Coast, please drop in to train with us at the Sunshine Coast Dojo.

[@ninjamaster7724]

Aikido is beautiful to watch,even fun to practice,but very little of it actually works.

I am a 6th Kyu (Rokkyu) retired member of Aikido Kokikai.

[@dannid.8115]

Nishio vs yoshinkan? Which one is better?

[@baldieman64]

Aikido is not a "fighting system". It is an exploration of a particular aspect of how human bodies interact in combat, combined with exercise and a spiritual/mental element. It is to fighting, what the tea ceremony is to quenching your thirst. I would argue that it can improve ones ability to fight, but it's not a complete martial art by any means - there is a reason why Ueshiba only took students who could already fight.

[@krupalvithlani]

Beautiful

[@mickymorton7148]

thanks for sharing this video ?

[@raywest7222]

actually i would argue that sugawara sensei was more dynamic than gozo

[@regntonne]

This looks more like choreography than actual martial arts.

[@gordonames1892]

MOST MARTIAL ARTS ARE LIKE DANCES. SPEAKING PRIMARILY ABOUT THE JAPANESE AND CHINESE ARTS ITS FLOWING MOVEMENTS LIKE A DANCE. I BELIEVE IN AIKIDO THE RANDORI MOVEMENTS ARE LIKE A DANCE, ESPECIALLY GOOD DEALING WITH MULTIPLE OPPONENTS!!

[@openmindedfist4655]

Matrial art of plise shake my hand and i will hurt you

[@cnchee708]

akido seems more like Taiji and more useful than judo. U could see Aikido Ninjitsu.. which is interesting.

[@asdfjkl981]

Aikido is not as useful as judo. It is as usefull as tai chi and yoga.

[@gordonramsey5903]

@@asdfjkl981 yeah, really wish the arts were kept better. Now adays it's just yoga and moving slow

[@perrypelican9476]

Again, absolutely no resistance. It looks great but how about a real fight when the opponent wants to kill you or at least fights back. It is very impressive and probably good to prepare for the real thing. I want to see just one demonstration of an aikido master fighting opponents who have some fighting skills and fight back, and do not leave limbs extended to be easy as possible to be manipulated. Strikers typically punch or kick and recoil their arm or leg. They never leave their arm extended. Ok for practice but very silly if you want to show off the effectiveness of a fighting art. The danger is to lead a young student to believe that he/she is learning an effective martial art that will do him well against an attacker. It will only do him well against another aikido practitioner who is playing the aikido game of one person attacking and the other throwing the cooperative attacker around like a rag doll. Imagine the surprise of the youngster when his attacker keeps punching and kicking and never leaves an arm out there to be wrist locked or arm barred. I wonder how many of those disallusionec students have been badly hurt over the years. It's sad.

[@johnmaisonneuve9057]

Why does these Aikido demonstrations always look so fake. Who in the real world really believes that these are really effective in actual situations? It’s so unrealistic for actual defensive needs . Hence, it seems Aikido is more a religion than an effective method of self defence. I know I will be criticized by the true believers

[@colin.k6263]

thats because Aikido has its roots originally meant for swordsmen. It's not strike based because it's not really viable to punch stuff in a suit of armor. The religious stuff was the transformation of it as swordmen were no longer of great value leading up to the Meiji era. In fact, the Japanese Self Defense Force(their army) has a method developed through aikido, jujitsu, and karate emplying short strikes and takedown/grappling of the enemy as to suit the average combat wear of a jsdf soldier

[@colin.k6263]

it's basically been transformed to a religion today to keep it alive as nobody really needed it anymore

[@colin.k6263]

@mark daniels based in religous pretext within the Shinto religion. The original followers were essentially monks of the trade similar to the Shaolin monks or other martial arts based monks, almost all at minimum had their upbringing in the name of religion

[@asdfjkl981]

@Legba daniels Bull shit. If something is called a MARTIAL art it needs to work and be able to compete with other martial arts. If i call something a racecar i cant just glue some sheet metal together and stick a note on the pile of junk saying "this is a philosophical racecar, it wins by default" . Either it is fighting than it must prove itselve against other fighting styles. or it is dancing. than you must not label it as martial art.

[@asdfjkl981]

@Legba daniels Are you high? Who talks about a battelfield. The one with the gun wins. next step. the one with the knife wins. After that there is the unarmed fighting. and someone who can punch (boxing) and understands some ground techniques (wrestling, judo, real non aikido jiujitsu, bjj) is most likely the winner if you even can kick (kickboxing) its awsome but basically boxing and wrestling work fine. aikido is not a martial art, it is fancy dancing.

[@bfnew4440]

Footnote - ur ‘dazzling fight skills’ won’t work against a trained fighter

[@QuattroPogjeena]

BF NEW it will, just not in a ring. It doesn’t work if the person knows it’s coming, because then they won’t try to attack you with everything because they’re be weary. The principal is like that of a roller coaster. You don’t see the massive things bumping the cart to make it change direction, but instead it uses a circular track to change the direction of the cart. If the cart is ‘programmed’ to just go back and forth just before the turn, then it’s not going to go anywhere, but in turn, the track also won’t change directions. Just like if a person doesn’t attack fully, they’re not going to really do much damage. There’s a difference between aikido and bullshito. Bullshito is aikido being taught terrible and without proper attacks- which is sadly the most common form.

[@posho9308]

@popasmuerf jajajaja "aikibitches" LOL

[@TylerDurden-oy2hm]

oh i guess you know more than the japanese riot police eh pimp...??they shouldve got YOU to train their officers eh..cos you know so much

[@colin.k6263]

@popasmuerf actually, some clarity on that. The Japanese riot police do infact practice high levels of Aikido, check out the senshusei course they have. Aikido really works great for cops in Japan having to take down perpetrators through Aikido and many other martial art styles adapted to police use. How often do you see a cop punch a dude in the face over taking him down? fun fact, they have a strong basis in kendo training as well to train them with their poilce batons as those are often used by the riot police. I'd say the most focused martial arts for Japanese police and military agencies are Karate, Judo, Aikido, and Kendo. In that order for the JGSDF who operates under a specified Karate based system with short strikes for their combat attire but for Police, switch the karate and aikido spots as they seldom focus on strikes of any kind other then those with the baton

[@colin.k6263]

@popasmuerf wow, i didn't know you were Japanese and held insight in these things or bothered to research as I had as I am both Japanese having seen these first hand and researched these. I agree with the fairy dust things but the entire first half of your comment is false. It is def not 100% judo and karate and you would know why by reading my comment where i explained the applications of other martial arts into the JGSDF and the Tokyo Metro Police's respective combat system's