THIS is What We Do Instead of Chiburui (Blood Shake) and Why

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Жыл бұрын

Chiburui means “blood shake” in Japanese, and it is the movement that is done at the end of Iai and Kenjutsu Kata. It is often explained as the movement to remove the blood of the katana after a fight. Most Ryuha styles of Iai/Kenjutsu have it, but does it actually work?
So today, Seki sensei, the 22nd headmaster of Kobudo Asayama Ichiden Ryu with 400 years explain to us his opinion about the purpose of Chiburui. He will also explain and demonstrate why we don’t do Chiburui in our Ryuha. I’m confident that you will learn shocking new facts about the Chiburui, and also finally find out what this stance is about, which we always do at the end of our Kata.
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@letsasksekisensei
@letsasksekisensei Жыл бұрын
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@mikeshramko8331
@mikeshramko8331 Жыл бұрын
Nice video. Is there a name for when you strike the handle of the katana with the side of your right hand? I saw it briefly in the video. Is this also chiburi?
@dongleseon8785
@dongleseon8785 Жыл бұрын
All his move for sheathing blade feels like they are made for a tight space such as in a corridor or a room. Wonder if that's part of consideration for all of his minimal range of movement.
@Fish-ub3wn
@Fish-ub3wn Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much, I understand Zenshin now. Blessings to both you and Sensei.
@johncartwright8154
@johncartwright8154 Жыл бұрын
In Mugai Ryu, chiburi is understood to be purely symbolic and is much simplified, and even omitted from kneeling kata. Our Sensei also proved that chiburi is ineffective in shaking blood off when a student unfortunately managed to stab herself in the upper arm with an iaito.
@JunKishibe
@JunKishibe Жыл бұрын
​@@ivanfiorani1363 That is not entirely true. Budo was often performed at shrines and temples, where no bloodshed was allowed, for various religious rituals. (this is a very old tradition, going as far back as the Heian era) In the Edo era, since it was a generally peaceful time, most martial arts were done safely inside Dojos for physical training or entertainment. Other sword-based performances like test cutting or kenbu were performed in the streets, in front of crowds, as a show of skill and to earn a quick penny.
@jyunte
@jyunte Жыл бұрын
And yet, one of (if not the) oldest extant koryu schools, Tenshin Shoden Katori Shinto Ryu absolutely does have chiburi. To claim that this isn't a true samurai system would be a mistake.
@johncartwright8154
@johncartwright8154 Жыл бұрын
@Salty Member this was after first aid was initially administered , and the woman was taken to a Minor Injury Unit. Poor woman is somewhat unlucky though. A few weeks ago I broke her finger during kumitachi.
@user-pj1ec5om5g
@user-pj1ec5om5g 10 ай бұрын
@@johncartwright8154the fact that she returned is proof she’s strong but damn she’s unlucky lol
@23Disciple
@23Disciple 4 ай бұрын
@@jyunte Did you read scrolls from 15th century or how you know its original form? What i understood, even oldest koryus evolved in time.
@jamesfrankiewicz5768
@jamesfrankiewicz5768 Жыл бұрын
I have a personal theory on the origins of chiburui, and that it may have a combative use, but that the name was a partial euphemism to hude some of the grotesqueness of it's purpose. I came to this idea through a story recorded by Ueshiba Kisshōmaru (2nd Doshu of Aikido) recounting his father Morihei's time in Mongolia. During that time, Morihei carried a sword as a bodyguard to a religious leader, and they had a skirmish with some bandits. After cutting through many bandits, Morihei found the build-up of human "fat" was preventing his sword from cutting well, and that he had to quickly learn the importance of tsuki ("thrusting"), in order to survive. So, it could be that chiburui was meant as a still-in-combat motion to shake off the worst of the human fleshly bits that had accumulated on a sword, in order to continue to be effective with the sword through the engagement, rather than something done only at the end of the engagement.
@bannedmann4469
@bannedmann4469 Жыл бұрын
This makes sense to me. Viscera test anyone?
@Siphlex
@Siphlex Жыл бұрын
It would make sense also because blood is corrosive to metals, and getting it off while it is still liquid is easier than getting it off when it has dried.
@DerJuvens
@DerJuvens Жыл бұрын
@@Siphlex The blood would still remain on the blade. As suggested, it's about more solid things that accumulate after longer period of fighting. The weapon would be cleaned afterwards, corrosion takes time, hence it wouldn't matter for a well maintained blade.
@doggodoggo3000
@doggodoggo3000 Жыл бұрын
that story reeks of embellishment. fat build up on a blade isnt really a thing. ive cut loads and loads of fatty meat with knives and "fat build up" keeping the blade from cutting is mostly fiction. Though in a battle situation, prolonged use without time to maintain a blade edge. The cutting ability would diminish just after a few cuts, so a sword edge becoming dull enough to need to focus more on stabbing techniques actually does make sense, but not because of "fat build up". cut through a few sets of clothing and its not going to be as sharp, to the point clothing might actually put up a fight. At meat packing plants, you sharpen your knife OFTEN. Alot of them just have electric knife sharpeners at the work stations. In one shift of cutting meat you will sharpen your knife multiple times. my super sharp kitchen knives get a hone with a steel rod almost every time i use it. idk, but it having a grotesque name, to me, just lends more credence to senseis theory that it stems from samurai performances.
@DerJuvens
@DerJuvens Жыл бұрын
@@doggodoggo3000 You're mixing up knives with swords here. A knife for fileting has to maintain much higher sharpness than a sword in battle. It's not about just fat built up, you probably misinterpreted that, as it's about fat, blood, pieces of human flesh and other fluids and viscera. Additionally swords were made for this with different types of steel than knives in modern use, they'd reach less edge sharpness but would retain the edge much longer. I feel like your experience with using knives is embellishment in your story as it's barely related at all, meanwhile there are thousands of first hand experiences written down by people who actually engaged in swordfights and battles. As a side note, I personally don't have any sword battle experiences, I do however have experience in HEMA, did own multiple swords and actually used them frequently. I also cooked, so jokes on you, i also got filetting experience 🤣
@thatotherperson2
@thatotherperson2 Жыл бұрын
In gunfighter classes, some instructors finish drills and courses of fire with a scan. They often lower the muzzle low enough as to not obstruct their view, and then turn both ways. The idea is to assess if it's appropriate to back out of the fight, as well as to break lingering tunnel vision. The practice is debated and subject to mockery, but that's how it goes. Thanks for the post.
@ricardodemarco3486
@ricardodemarco3486 Жыл бұрын
My sensei's sensei said that his sensei (a matrioska of senseis indeed) learned that chiburi was there only as a shake of the weapon although not to shake off the blood, but the tension that has builded up in the arm. It is unavoidable to grip the sword harder than usual due to stress and adrenaline of the fight, so might as well have some countermeasures even as if these are as simple as shaking the sword. Also, he also taught the "sheathing the weapon while both stepping back and keeping the awareness/attitude" move.
@markfergerson2145
@markfergerson2145 Жыл бұрын
So if I understand correctly, in systems that use chiburi it is the closing formulaic element of a kata signifying "I have completed this exercise" and is immediately followed by sheathing the katana, whereas zanshin signifies "I have completed this exercise, but I am still prepared for more" emphasized by the longer pause before sheathing the katana. I also want to note the similarity of the posture to what in Western swordfighting is often called "fool's guard" which is intended to make your opponent think you are a fool who does not know to keep the point of your sword toward your opponrnt, inviting them to attack without the caution they would ordinarily use (making them the fool).
@valer342
@valer342 Жыл бұрын
I don't see why people think it should be one or the other. Both are used in some old iai styles. And that makes the most sense when you first use Chudan Zanshin and then Chudan Chiburui. Or Jordan or Gedan. Zanshin first to pay the respects and ready to reengage in the fight if needed and to check the integrity of the blade. Followed by Chiburui to formalize the end of the sequence and check the stability of the katana (mekugi, etc.)
@richt63
@richt63 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I think the blood shake is more ritual than using in actual combat. I have no doubt in battle the samurai of old wipe their katanas clean later after a battle with a piece of silk cloth that they carried perhaps on their obi or sash
@AstrixCloud
@AstrixCloud Жыл бұрын
Would definately not want to leave blood on the blade due to the iron in the bloody would cause it to rust.
@maartencdegroot6968
@maartencdegroot6968 7 күн бұрын
well now u just kill him why not use his obi ?
@tn1881
@tn1881 Жыл бұрын
Books that mention Chiburui include Urashima nendai-ki (1722) and Kawanakajima Tōto nishikie (1876), and Chiburui seems to have been common knowledge for people at the time. Schools with Chiburui include tenshin-ryū, Eishin-ryū, and others. If the katana is covered with blood and put into the scabbard, the blood will clot and the katana will rust. Chiburui's actions alone cannot wipe the blood completely. So, in fact, it seems that the blood was wiped with paper or wiped with clothes.
@tn1881
@tn1881 Жыл бұрын
@@aren8798 Knowledge and martial arts are not lost. On the continent, when a dynasty was ruled by a foreign race, the previous culture was destroyed and the history books were burned. However, in Japan, one dynasty has continued for more than 2000 years, so the history books were not lost. Influenced by Shinto, Buddhism, and Confucianism, Japan values its ancestors and tries not to lose the martial arts developed by them. That's why in Japan, old martial arts were not discarded as worthless. In modern times, communists in East Asia tried to make people turn to a new idea, communism, by making past culture worthless or inferior. Misinformation about Japanese martial arts is actively spread by communists, but there are primary sources of information, so those who want to find out can find accurate information. Westerners tend to like Japanese misinformation made by East Asian communists, and communists take advantage of that Western habit.
@Muschelschubs3r
@Muschelschubs3r 4 ай бұрын
​@@tn1881 OMFG. In Europe, stuff that is deemed obsolete is simply discarded. And there is no such thing as "race" in humanity. The mere concept is, well, racist. Always has been.
@anotherhistoryenthusiast5874
@anotherhistoryenthusiast5874 Жыл бұрын
In Shinkendo there are three types of chiburi. Jodan chiburi - It's similar to the one you showed in this video when doing an Iaido kata. It is told to be an aesthetic gesture, something purely ceremonial you do when you have an audience. Chudan chiburi - It's a standard chiburi, it's also told to be ceremonial, but less fancy. Gedan chiburi - You make the chiburi while stepping back, the tip of the sword is below your knee level, so the sword is protecting your lower right quarter. This is the more practical one. The idea is basically that the opponent is on the ground, but for extra safety you step back and defend your lower body if he decides to attack from the ground. There are katas where there is no chiburi too, only noto. In my opinion in the dojo chiburi also has the functuion of showing when the practice is over, since katas are not always fixed and people can also make mistakes. It's more elegant than shouting stop.
@user-sq3fe5sy9v
@user-sq3fe5sy9v Жыл бұрын
関先生の精緻な体捌き、残心から突きをされる際に刀が全くブレないのを拝見すると、自分の拙さが良く分かります。 いつも勉強になります、ありがとうございました。
@Ikaros---
@Ikaros--- Жыл бұрын
Definitely seems like a more efficient style. The only use I can think of for Chiburui is if there's literally guts or connective tissue wrapped around or impaled on the sword, but the likelyhood of that is extremely low in combat, and nonexistant during Kata. In such a case, it could get stuck in the Saya and possibly prevent you from drawing the sword again once sheathed.
@clayweaver2066
@clayweaver2066 Жыл бұрын
Quite an interesting take on Chiburui. The method(s) of Zanshin presented resonated with my rapier training. Our rapiers were very point-centric (not totally, but mostly), so the Maestro would say to always protect yourself by "keeping your point in contention". Very similar to your three steps of ending an encounter, ease back, stay able to protect yourself, and then sheath your sword when you are sure its really over. Thanks for an interesting and informative video!
@KateJohn2013England
@KateJohn2013England Жыл бұрын
👍🙏 Thank you 🙏
@jjs3890
@jjs3890 Жыл бұрын
Once again, this confirms what I was taught that goes against the norm. Thank you!
@grosey11
@grosey11 2 ай бұрын
As an outsider I was always impressed by chiburui. It seemed to be a mental rehearsal of a victory. As similar in sports psychology the principal for an elite athlete to mentally rehearse a victory in very minute detail. It engenders confidence in the individual’s mindset.
@delducja
@delducja Жыл бұрын
Seki sensei is someone who I greatly respect and admire as a role model. Thank you!
@TheCCBoi
@TheCCBoi Жыл бұрын
I like Shogo’s explanation on his channel. Seems like a good why to check if your Mekugi is still intact.
@AlexanderYamada
@AlexanderYamada Ай бұрын
Aside from its traditional, aesthetic, and ritual purposes, I've always found chiburi to be a good exercise of wrist control.
@huskiefan8950
@huskiefan8950 Жыл бұрын
I have studied kendo for a few years, and we do the chiburui in our form kata even while using wooden katana(not bamboo) WITH THE UNDERSTANDING that any kata movements you use in real combat, are to be adjusted or even skipped if that movement is not wise in that specific situation. The purpose of kata is to make efficient and smart movements part of muscle memory, not to follow without thinking. Awesome channel, shogo. Thank you for allowing those of us who do not have opportunity to go to Japan, to learn from a japanese master. Respect 🗡️
@GuagoFruit
@GuagoFruit Жыл бұрын
By kata, you don't mean nihon kendo kata do you? I'm not aware of any chiburui after the kata, just zanshin elements.
@huskiefan8950
@huskiefan8950 Жыл бұрын
@@GuagoFruit actually kata is not the word I should have used. I just know that most will understand me if I say kata and get the basic idea right. We actually do it in certain practice drills which are similar to kata but are not from the traditional Nihon sources, however Im sure that every movement has a reason, even if it's more of an honoring of the tradition than for effectiveness in battle. 🗡️
@GuagoFruit
@GuagoFruit Жыл бұрын
@@huskiefan8950 Yeah ok. It's just that you said you said you practiced kata with your kendo. In most cases that would mean nihon kendo kata or bokuto waza, but I guess you mean your club does their own kata as well? Just wanted to clarify.
@huskiefan8950
@huskiefan8950 Жыл бұрын
yes my instructor just includes some drills which look similar to kata which either he created or his teacher created, I don't know. One of these drills includes the chiburui. We include the drills in our practices along with all the traditional kendo kata that you will find anywhere. 🗡️
@GenkiGamer009
@GenkiGamer009 Жыл бұрын
Great video, so much meaning in every move. Thank you!
@melissadivozzi4435
@melissadivozzi4435 4 ай бұрын
Love this! I learn so much from your perspective. Thank you 😊
@TatraScrambler
@TatraScrambler Жыл бұрын
Thank you Seki Sensei & Shogo for addressing this question!
@chainreaction8977
@chainreaction8977 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely fantastic presentation as always!
@rolandgdean
@rolandgdean Жыл бұрын
This always seemed to me to be more form that function. I'm pleased that you confirmed my suspicion about that. Another great and very informative video.
@knucklepuppy824
@knucklepuppy824 Жыл бұрын
All of the heads that burst from this info delight me. Thank you for sharing.
@stephensimmons7140
@stephensimmons7140 Жыл бұрын
This was amazing, thank you Shogo
@albro8853
@albro8853 Жыл бұрын
Another very insightfull video, I simply love the effeciency, the rational and the explanation of both behind every move that Seiki does! On another note, would be amazing to see Seiki perform that 5 opponents kata on the next video ! 😊
@rhedd5911
@rhedd5911 Жыл бұрын
That was very impressive. Thank you!
@robertschlesinger1342
@robertschlesinger1342 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Many thanks.
@Sojiro-bb7zx
@Sojiro-bb7zx Жыл бұрын
Practical and realistic! Much respect to Asayama Ichiden Ryu, Seki Sensei, and any other instructors
@jerkchickenblog
@jerkchickenblog Жыл бұрын
incredible technique. love the clean movements with no energy wasted.
@DuongSinhThucPhap-jf7nl
@DuongSinhThucPhap-jf7nl 2 ай бұрын
Thanks Seki Sensei. I have learned a lot from your techniques.
@gomcse
@gomcse Жыл бұрын
You have rapidly become one of my favorite channels.
@Oddzilla51
@Oddzilla51 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! In our Aikido dojo when we have trained with the bokken, our previous sensei taught us the Chiburui. But this makes much more sense to use Zanshin in this manner. I will definitely research and practice this more to pass on to my students. :)
@cpuuk
@cpuuk Жыл бұрын
Thank you for imparting your knowledge.
@IPLayedVR42Long
@IPLayedVR42Long Жыл бұрын
Now this is completely new to me! Amazing technique!
@evandroantonucci2653
@evandroantonucci2653 Жыл бұрын
Amazing! Thanks for sharing!
@A1N2D3R4E5Y
@A1N2D3R4E5Y Жыл бұрын
Wisely on zanshin. Not only for particular movements but deep concept. Thank you, gentlemen.
@michaelholt8590
@michaelholt8590 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the lesson. I could watch this man with his sword all day.
@Thomasnmi
@Thomasnmi Жыл бұрын
Very graceful and disciplined
@Bj5m17h
@Bj5m17h Жыл бұрын
Incredible technique from Seki Sensei. The theatrical origin of the Chiburui reminds of elements of kung fu, in that sometimes symbolism or flashiness for recruitment or fund-raising, may have been just as important as the practical martial application of the art.
@thirion1850
@thirion1850 Жыл бұрын
Every stance continues protecting or being a passive threat to the center line. Really cool!
@kurtschlichting1903
@kurtschlichting1903 Жыл бұрын
Very cool. learned something new.
@UrsaMajorPrime
@UrsaMajorPrime Жыл бұрын
This was a great way to demonstrate the concept of zanshin.
@lordstephen7813
@lordstephen7813 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting thank you .🙏
@grafsideonepolishguyharo1988
@grafsideonepolishguyharo1988 Жыл бұрын
Gratings to you good sir I just found your channel and I love it. And now if you don't mind, I will go and watch more content.
@randallpetroelje3913
@randallpetroelje3913 Жыл бұрын
Love and respect.🙏. Cleaning the blade was a must from what I was taught. Blood will corrode the blade. The blood groove might capture some, but I agree that the universal chiburi is more symbolic than anything else. I love the technique and your style. Asayama ichiden ryu is a very old school. Much respect.
@beng6805
@beng6805 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for these videos, Shogo!! This is adding so much to Seki sensei's videos. There is one thing that I always wanted to know and I don't think that Seki-sensei has made a video on it: for the Asayama Ichiden Ryu, how do you measure the blade length for yourself? And what kind of blade is he using himself: it doesn't look like a real katana (the blade looks too silverish)? That would be great also to know what kind of gi and hakama he is wearing.
@allanturmaine5496
@allanturmaine5496 Жыл бұрын
Seki Sensei seems like a great dude. I want to have tea with him and a translator.
@DevInvest
@DevInvest Жыл бұрын
I prefer a nice vanilla shake, hold the plasma. The Zanshin you practice seems much more tactically sound as well, it is a very elegant, yet practical “reset” or opportunity to reassess your situation and strategy I really enjoy your channels content and flow 🌊🙏🏻🙇🏻‍♂️ 😊🙇🏻‍♂️🙏🏻
@matthewmcmatthewson6578
@matthewmcmatthewson6578 Ай бұрын
I would guess that it's something of a meditation ritual, or a cadence, like the outro of a song. It gives a sense of finality, and tells the body and mind that the battle is over. Also because it looks cool.
@jimanHK
@jimanHK Жыл бұрын
Simply beautiful
@sparda74
@sparda74 Жыл бұрын
Zanshin is such a versatile step that maintains combat readiness even when the fight seems to be over. I've seen in media where the swordsman would slowly sheathe their sword after a battle and I thought this was for dramatic effect. Now knowing Zanshin, I see why.
@michaelabraham9177
@michaelabraham9177 Ай бұрын
I always appreciate the instruction from sensai. Hope I spelled that right.
@circejean
@circejean Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@richardwebb9532
@richardwebb9532 Жыл бұрын
Chiburi is a ritual. On another note, slow is smooth, smooth is fast.... Awesome moves by the Master. Respect🍻👍
@pseudoconscious
@pseudoconscious Жыл бұрын
Lovely video, as usual! Domo arigato. The idea that the performance of chiburi is derived from street performance is a very provocative idea. Zanchin was the first thought that came to me. I would be very interested in seeing the performance and thinking behind the intention of zanchin (or others!) at the end of the kata.
@pseudoconscious
@pseudoconscious Жыл бұрын
Chiburi is part of the practice that I have seen, and from what I understand, chiburi is part of the exercise of the within iaijutsu to emphasise the difference between movements within a matrix of strong/fast and weak/slow. So different kinds of chiburi adds to the practice by incorporating combinations of movements within the kata. Everyone agrees, however, that chiburi is not “practical” as a means of cleaning the sword (for the reasons sensei provided); however the thought is that there is nonetheless benefit in the motions as they fit into the strong/fast or weak/slow matrix. Although; I did very much agree with Seki Sensei’s thoughts on how he incorporated zanchin into the kata. Quite excellent!
@tacticaltemplar875
@tacticaltemplar875 Ай бұрын
I had heard that it was a way to check that the swords' fittings hadn't been damaged or loosened during the fight (checking for rattles, for example.) This would also explain why in so many kata end with the right hand grasping the kashira- to make sure it was still tight and in place.
@calamitysangfroid2407
@calamitysangfroid2407 4 ай бұрын
As someone who's had to clean bloody surgical tools as part of my job, baffles me that people genuinely believed you could shake blood off. That stuff needs detergent and a good scrubbing. And I'm working with stainless steel!
@az-6262
@az-6262 Жыл бұрын
it could also be used to check the pin of the sword, if its damaged or not
@rileysimmons6572
@rileysimmons6572 Жыл бұрын
I’ve heard this too. I’m very curious
@phoenixcraft9940
@phoenixcraft9940 Жыл бұрын
No. If a katana is properly made, even if the pin is broken the sword will not come out of the tsuka with a swing. The pin must be completely removed.
@valer342
@valer342 Жыл бұрын
@@phoenixcraft9940 Properly made is a good concept. You go by manufacturer? Personally I would be afraid to snap in half anything made in China
@phoenixcraft9940
@phoenixcraft9940 Жыл бұрын
@@valer342 Nihonto. The smith of mine is long dead, however I purchased it at an auction. I do not buy the stuff from China. They are illegal in Japan.
@rileysimmons6572
@rileysimmons6572 Жыл бұрын
@@phoenixcraft9940 that puts this myth to bed then. Thank you
@ren7a8ero
@ren7a8ero Жыл бұрын
When I practiced Iaijutsu, I remember the chiburi being akin to the zanshin demonstrated in this video. It was not the fancy movement spinning the sword or hitting the tsuka, more like a fast move always pointing to the "fallen oponent".
@jyunte
@jyunte Жыл бұрын
And yet the fancy spinning of the blade and hitting the tsuka is the main chiburi used in one of, if not the oldest koryu - Tenshin Shoden Katori Shinto Ryu, a true sword (and other weapon) fighting style.
@TheGhost-fk4eo
@TheGhost-fk4eo Жыл бұрын
I would love to see the Kata where you fight 5 opponents.
@immanuellimbong4802
@immanuellimbong4802 Жыл бұрын
That teach us always aware our nearby.
@dradamov
@dradamov Жыл бұрын
I like the approach that I learned from Iai Batto-ho where chiburi is taught in a few different versions (taught with classic MSR katas, but also with variations) - it is a traditional aesthetic (btw everyone always laughed at the idea of sticky blood magically disappearing and so on;) ) element and training tool to teach you importance of blade manipulation after the fight (there are some drills where you start sheathing but come back to re-engage). It was meant to be a question: you defeated the enemy, what now?
@theoriginalmakaaka101
@theoriginalmakaaka101 Жыл бұрын
It's mostly to shake off the debris than to shake off the blood. For example, when you go fishing and gut a fish, doing a Chiburui is not going to make that knife clean, but it will fling off most of the large pieces. Likewise, you don't want that debris to build up inside the sheath, so it is a battle-scene action where you can't stop to pull out the cleaning kit for your sword, but you have to sheathe your sword which has stuff on it, so it's just a way of using inertia to make fluids move along a blade until they are flung off.
@serijas737
@serijas737 Жыл бұрын
Wow how crazy the Zanshin is in the motions, ready at any moment.
@badtothebone7613
@badtothebone7613 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Is there any form of hakuda/kenpo/yawara in the ryuha?
@SnowblindOtter
@SnowblindOtter Жыл бұрын
I've always seen _chiburi_ as a flourish or an embellishment at the end of a kata, and nothing more, so I largely leave it out of my practices when I'm attempting to learn from studying texts. If I'm not mistaken, through my studies of Hyoho Niten Ichi-Ryu, I've gathered the impression that Musashi Miyamoto specifically decried it, but still encouraged the use of flourishes, such as _chiburi,_ spinnning, orbits, and other embellishments as a means to maintain dexterity and strengthen one's control and awareness of the blade, among other things that I haven't been able to identify yet.
@TenchiBushi
@TenchiBushi Жыл бұрын
I've seen Chiburi in movies, demos & katas in different systems. In the practices I attended in Noda-shi, I haven't seen it at all. We learned & simulated wiping the blood of the sword from standing position & horseback but no Chiburi.
@NPC_-mf4dw
@NPC_-mf4dw 3 ай бұрын
That was very interesting, never been aware some stiles do not have any chiburi, but personally I always wondered if chiburi is truly meant to shake off blood, because as a paramedic I know this is not gonna happen easily, let alone sufficiently. The other explanations, be it zanshin or even spiritual reasons seem more likely to me.
@niki3151
@niki3151 Жыл бұрын
The easiest explanation is most often the right one. Feel that his view is very probable
@drifter-donosadventureobsc9565
@drifter-donosadventureobsc9565 Жыл бұрын
Interesting, I've talked about zanshin a few times on my channel as well, but I've never seen the seated one or the one with the kissake pointed at the floor before.
@yoshi658
@yoshi658 Жыл бұрын
Oh I also love wakakoma channel videos
@ShirouneWF
@ShirouneWF Жыл бұрын
wow, I've never heard of this technique
@AnthonySell
@AnthonySell Жыл бұрын
In my studies, particularly from the writings of Taisen Deshimaru, I understood Zanshin to be described as "Mind's eye like the moon," which is a poetic description of a state of awareness of your surroundings. Is that term used in a similar way in this system?
@stepbro4978
@stepbro4978 Жыл бұрын
In ritual and ceremonial magick,there is opening and closing gestures and procedures. It could be similar, to Mark the end of a technique.
@al-eteos-imhotepheru-bey3271
@al-eteos-imhotepheru-bey3271 Жыл бұрын
Arigato Sensei!!!!!!!
@barriereid9244
@barriereid9244 Жыл бұрын
During my early morning daily kata I never imagine less than five attackers.
@jonwesick2844
@jonwesick2844 Жыл бұрын
Soke Don Angier mimicked wiping the blade with rice paper in Shidare Yanagi Ryu kata before sheathing the sword.
@allengordon6929
@allengordon6929 Жыл бұрын
It looks to me like a combination extract/parry. The flourishes in HEMA actually have this purpose.
@DeptalJexus
@DeptalJexus Жыл бұрын
I found that Shiburi can't shake the blood off the blade completely, but it can relax your arm muscle from fatigue. I think i need to train with Zanshin now.
@everinghall8622
@everinghall8622 Жыл бұрын
Ahh, i can finally get rid of all this pesky blood, great tutorial guys
@mohdhisyam8813
@mohdhisyam8813 Жыл бұрын
Thank u So Much For Your Hard Work & Efforts To Provide Us A Very Important Lessons.. SaLute To Your Seiki Sensei Too.. 👍👍👍😁😁💯💕
@cristian.crixus
@cristian.crixus Жыл бұрын
I need learn de move of he feets...looks so natural
@gingerincgaming9721
@gingerincgaming9721 Жыл бұрын
Was Sensei using an O-katana or a tachi? Because that blade looked a little big to be a standard katana
@seancarter6492
@seancarter6492 6 ай бұрын
I'm still gonna get goosebumps when Jin Sakai flicks the blood off his sword after a fight 😆 That's really really cool though, I always wondered if it had a term. So then what about the one where they squeeze the sword between their bicep and forearm and pull the blade out? I imagine it's the same principle, but it's the one I see most.
@kingfish4575
@kingfish4575 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see these practical techniques in a video game like ghosts of tsushima.
@malarkythompsonwilson9981
@malarkythompsonwilson9981 Жыл бұрын
Sorry my natural language is spanish so... Hay una teoría mucho más acertada a la realidad y es, el chiburui estaba hecho para revisar la integridad de la hoja en relación al tsuka, con el movimiento se podía notar si un mekugi estaba roto y necesitaba ser reemplazado
@valer342
@valer342 Жыл бұрын
That is a good point. First you check if the blade is chipped in Chudan for example when you turn Ha to left and with the actual Chiburui movement you might defects the instability with mekugi
@bjornf8518
@bjornf8518 Жыл бұрын
Is there some reason for having the thumb stick up when supporting the blade with your left hand? It seems to me (not at all versed in sword fighting) like it would increase the risk of your thumb getting cut off (6:03).
@drummer_mtseng
@drummer_mtseng Жыл бұрын
I practised Iaido by myself a few days ago, but my left knee hurts after this, did I did the wrong stance while kneeling down ?
@BMikeAD
@BMikeAD Жыл бұрын
If I don't have a rag around when I remove substances from my tools I use the crook of my arm and drag it through.
@mikki429
@mikki429 3 ай бұрын
I thought it was one of your videos that posited the practical reason for chiburi is to check the integrity of your mekugi.
@Lucasolvalou
@Lucasolvalou Жыл бұрын
As a 9 year student of Mugai Ryu this holds true. I was taught that the various chiburui in all ryuha are essentially just kamae or stances representing and enabling further zanshin. In reality if you were to cut someone, after performing chiburui you would absolutely wipe down the blade when you felt it was safe using a carried cloth rag or tenugui before noto. Then later at home thoroughly clean the blade with powder and oil. That's not present in most kata because it is not "interesting" to see or is otherwise assumed to be done. Just like it isn't too interesting to see someone use a rag to wipe sweat from their brow. In practice chiburui only has a chance to remove chunks of flesh or solid matter if you had a particularly messy cut. Ask me how I know >.>
@dango470
@dango470 Жыл бұрын
How do you know?
@dsgdsg9764
@dsgdsg9764 Жыл бұрын
I was told that rather than to get the blood off it is to indicate you are finished with combat
@saberserpent1134
@saberserpent1134 Жыл бұрын
Chinugui - wiping blood on the hakama is a practical way of blood removal. But, katana are so highly polished, they don't really gather a lot, anyway. And, samurai carried rice paper specifically to wipe their blades. I don't know that I buy the "street performance" thing. There's koryu arts with chiburi from the Sengoku period. And it's almost universal among ryuha, in all but execution.
@althesmith
@althesmith Жыл бұрын
I have a feeling swordsmanship became romanticised in Japan in much the same way as Sir Walter Scott romanticised European knighthood.
@jeffhunter3402
@jeffhunter3402 Жыл бұрын
So how did the Swordsman clean off the blade prior to resheathing?
@WilliamZuest
@WilliamZuest Жыл бұрын
I like this video a lot. I think of/use Chiburi as more of a way to clear distance than I do clearing the sword. Like, "Hey, other guy(s.) Keep away or you're going to lose that arm;" type of motion. I make it aggressive. But, I'm a brute, so what do I know? *laugh*
@rhedd5911
@rhedd5911 Жыл бұрын
I’m curious about the step to the side at the very end, though. Is there a purpose for that?
@letsasksekisensei
@letsasksekisensei Жыл бұрын
Yes, it is another movement to move away from your opponent! To not be in the same line as the fight.
@mikloskoszegi
@mikloskoszegi Жыл бұрын
What bugs me even more is when people wipe their "bloody" katana on their sleeve. Seriously, who'd want other people's blood on their sleeve?!?
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