Orion Review | Kings Island's B&M Giga Coaster

[@EdwardmWhitney]

Orion IMO is the most underrated coaster in Ohio. After 7 rides on it yesterday, I came to this conclusion. It doesn’t have a ton of elements, but the ones it has are perfectly executed. Specifically one of the best hits of floater I have ever experienced!

[@tinaholbrook9719]

I rode it yesterday for the first time, and I completely agree with you. For how fast it was, this was the smoothest ride by far at kings island (diamond back is 2nd). Every single turn, twist, or hill was just pure joy. It felt like you were just gliding through the air. And it made my belly drop countless times. Even the shorter hills got me! The speed and smoothness of the ride were out of this world!

[@AshleyA93]

Even the last hill to the break gives amazing air time 😂

[@journeytree]

diamondback is way better for floater and overall as a ride. On a very hot day, Orion is arguably too forceful. Everyone I know wants nothing to do with it beyond 80°F because of the area around the camera that is extremely forceful, and made worse in hot weather.

[@SharpCinema]

It's like that song from the 60's -"Where have all the floaters gone?"

[@craigperry3779]

I would kill for this at SFMM! I hate seeing people complain about a 30 million dollar B&M.

[@johanlenox]

same. and we dont even have a good hyper lol

[@jackcrola1076]

Completely agreed. It seems to enthusiasts nowadays that if it isn’t an RMC, then it’s not that good.

[@austinshaw6269]

I think the reason why people complain about Orion is the the KI Giga was such a hyped up concept for so long. It was expected to blow Fury out of the water. When it was announced, people were quite disappointed. But still, KI got their Giga, people need to stop tearing this ride apart. Orion (Onion 287) is still fun to make fun of though, coming from a person with Six Flags St Louis as their home park.

[@ArrowThrills]

The only problem with Orion is the horrible layout, it's not as good compared to other Giga coasters.

[@nohaybanda3061]

johan lenox x2 is a hyper

[@marcouuuu]

Lets get ElToroRyan to explain the soil of kings island

[@cedarpointfanboys5130]

Yes.

[@thomasbarlow4223]

Hahaha itd be a 24:00 min video too

[@ducksfan_1149]

Bjorn Means Bear el toro Ryan actually has personality

[@Phailsku]

Take a shot every time he mentions block brakes

[@Jackrabbit7]

King Turt In conclusion Kings Island is alive and uses magic from its soil

[@julien3032]

It annoys me that everyone calls Orion a “budget” coaster. I get that many felt underwhelmed by its layout, but Orion literally cost the same $30 million as Fury with 1,300 feet less track.

[@josiahhall1821]

price of steel has increased since 2014/2015

[@josiahhall1821]

@Zacheroni Yeah that’s a good point I actually think they’re included in the whole area 72 as well

[@TonyKimtheamusementparkfan]

Yeah, I agree. No coaster is going to be Fury 325, let's face it. From the position that Carowinds was in with trying to tap into a new market with their growing demographic, that made sense. Kings Island doesn't need to make this super long. It's a giga coaster, and it looks very fun. That's all I care about a roller coaster. I'm an enthusiast who just wants to enjoy the ride for what it is. I don't like comparing roller coasters to each other, since they're all different. Just take Orion for what it is, and enjoy the ride. It did kind of annoy me for people to compare this to Fury 325 or any other giga coaster. Not all giga coasters need to be the same. It's meant to draw in crowds, and that's all it needs to do. Like people need to stop complaining about that, the long B&M brake run, like come on. B&M knows more about building a roller coaster and knows more about them than we do, so let's not complain about that.

[@hellacia8151]

I could say it's a budget giga. Definitely not a budget coaster.

[@starryagent9936]

@sam deathdealer the same can be said of Fury and Intimidator, or Behemoth and Leviathan

[@dcross446]

Its probably just me, but I love the sound of the chain on the lift. It gets me excited

[@SaherHaroon]

Me too. I like hearing it on the beast.

[@eriklakeland3857]

I think you really hit the nail on the head when you combined missed opportunity of terrain interaction and low to the ground elements. Separately those are worthy critiques but they have a compounding effect together. That’s a great example of the kind of analysis I watch this channel for.

[@woody72691]

Fanboy

[@joewilson5286]

Also have to remember that he hasn't ridden this with a full train. That extra weight will cause the coaster to run much faster thru the elements and especially that 1st wave turn really needs that full mass (another 2000+ lbs) to really get that airtime that the designers intended for that element. Don't think Kings Island is built on soft ground (Florida has much softer earth and some of their B&M's are glossy smooth) but I think the cause of the rattle on Banshee lies elsewhere (some say it's because the vests suction you in so tightly against the seat you feel every imperfection along the track especially in the back rows) Funny but I know people who have ridden Banshee hundreds and hundreds of times and never noticed the slightest rattle or any roughness. Guess it just depends on your standards

[@woody72691]

@@joewilson5286 finally someone speaks the truth

[@therideanalyst6794]

@@joewilson5286 Nah its a 7, also I know dozens of other people who prefer other rides to orion

[@smuella]

@@joewilson5286 You're only half right unfortunately. A full train will have more mass and therefore more inertia, meaning it is not as susceptible to drag of friction. That means over the course of the ride, it will keep the speed better. That does not mean though that it will be noticeably faster from the get-go and at the top of the first element. You will notice it more and more towards the end of the ride though.

[@Sara_Diamondheart]

I think Orion has been an amazing addition to Kings Island! The more I ride it, the more I fall in love with it. Every ride gets better for me! I even got the opportunity to ride in the front seat for the first time and it was absolutely fantastic! I honestly don't understand why this coaster would be getting any hate. This is a spectacular coaster and I think it fits Kings Island really well. Kings Island is my home park and I'm so thankful they added Orion to the park. We also can't really compare it to Diamondback. Orion is a giga and Diamondback is a hyper, although they look similar, they produce very different ride experiences. Hypers like Diamondback is focused more on airtime, while gigas are focused more on speed, height and unique/special elements. While I do slightly prefer Diamondback due to the airtime hills, I absolutely adore Orion as well! Easily my second favorite coaster at Kings Island!

[@wutduh8697]

One thing you have to take into account is that you didn't get to ride on a full train. So at half capacity, this is what your review is.

[@maxwendling402]

lmao thats what happens when you set your expectations too high. I set them too low and was blown away. Best ride at kings island and 4th favorite overall.

[@CoasterStudios]

Believe me, my expectations were not high. I didn’t go in expecting much at all.

[@ArrowThrills]

@@CoasterStudios could you do a rollercoaster battle video ??? Orion vs Millennium Force video.

[@adray239]

MTF he hasn’t done any of these in years...

[@jonfrank9090]

Yeah some people have to look cool and not be impressed with the new "big thing". Makes them feel sophisticated

[@trkepler8969]

Agreed. Perfect pacing and really kept it's speed throughout

[@ryansublermedia]

I share many of the same thoughts. Few disagreements though for me. Here's my thoughts: 1. Seatbelts don't bother me a lot. 2. Although the wave turn is a little forceless and gives no airtime, I think it's a fun speed element none the less! 3. First ride, I thought it sucked in the back row because the first half was lame. By ride 3, I sat in the middle and in between and I had a few 1st half grey out moments. 2nd half I appreciated more and more because of that insane airtime. And the second half is actually better to me as every ride the trims hit different. 3 hit harder than 2 on the same day! I love Orion but Fury wins for duration! As for the rattles, I believe it is actually the wheel quality!

[@farfetched1660]

I completely agree with you that it should have stayed more low to the ground. Orion is basically Diamondback but larger.

[@alessio2968]

Most giga coasters are like hyper coasters just larger and are more intense

[@zacharyjanus8944]

Well next season when social distancing hopefully subsides, I believe the experience will be much stronger since the trains will have more people. More people means more weight, more weight means better speed, better speed means better pacing and better pacing leads to a more intense and awesome ride.

[@adray239]

True that... I didn’t hear a lot of people mention this

[@henryyurboijones9118]

Are there limits when it comes to seats

[@sedricgranger]

Henry yur boi Jones yep, only 2 riders can sit in a given row at most. So the train only is running at half capacity (16 riders) at most (instead of 32)

[@zachbisselberg1906]

I got my first ride on this today and thought it was great. While it doesn’t stand up to some of the more elite gigas I think it should be appreciated for what it does well. The speed hill, helix, and last banked airtime hill are all super fun moments. That’s not to mention the theming and overall atmosphere of Area 72, as well as how great the ride looks in the skyline. I understand why many people are underwhelmed by the length and some elements, but I am definitely pumped to have this thing just 20 minutes from my house. Definitely a great addition to my home park. Great video as always

[@logancoasterroasterlockwoo163]

Rank all 7 giga coasters next! Edit- very next day, it’s up, thanks Taylor

[@KennyHavoc]

Love that idea

[@lukeledwon6449]

Not that you care but IMO the definitive ranking is 7. Dragon 6. Red force 5. Intimidator 4. Leviathan 3.Orion 2. Mille 1. Fury

[@nuccidasuperior4827]

TheChacoTaco ur an idiot lol

[@lukeledwon6449]

Nucci Da Superior nah Mille is godly also *opinion*

[@nuccidasuperior4827]

TheChacoTaco nah. U put I305 at 5 lol

[@alyssamumaw2345]

I remember a couple years back I was riding Diamondback and at the top of the hill my seat unclicked one notch and loosened up. I was holding on and felt it pop up right as we went over the hill. Never been more scared. So yes, clamshell seats do need seatbelts.

[@mahindeshmukh5069]

no they don't apollo's is one example that doesn't use seatbelts or silver star

[@J.Braxton]

Clamshell that mouth of yours Alyssa -B&M fanboy

[@kevinjohnson-ep9ox]

Ride operators were the very best. One excellent crew of people. I was impressed. Between dealing with COVID-19 and ensuring good ride capacity, this group deserves some credit. I was there this past weekend and wanted to give them a shout-out.

[@haydenuhlenhake9562]

Ohio soil is very soft and fertile while Florida’s and Virginia’s is much rougher so that honestly might make a lot of sense

[@trkepler8969]

Yeah but you'd only have to go deeper to hit rock or soil with good bearing capacity to lay the footers. Banshees rattle is accentuated by very tight restraints and Diamondback/Orions rattle is nitpicking

[@MrEvldreamr]

its the clay, florida is also swampy as hell, alot of the theme park locations had to be filled in and cleared if im not mistaken.

[@FinesseBTW]

Cedar Point's B&Ms don't rattle so it might be just the region that KI is in

[@Neglected-Nostalgia]

@@FinesseBTW Gatekeeper is definitely getting a rattle.

[@FinesseBTW]

@@Neglected-Nostalgia only at the bottom of the first drop. The rest of the ride was fine when I rode it last August. Rougarou had a slight rattle.Valravn was fine and Raptor was fine

[@garrettlamb9916]

I really wish KI would give way to the whole out n back theme and try something new!

[@sedricgranger]

They will eventually! Something will have to replace vortex

[@bristles5]

Really hard to do when the park is shaped like a donut.

[@scottyjbd]

bristles5 how about a coaster with a course like a donut

[@garrettlamb9916]

Sedric Granger I’m 87 percent sure a dive coaster will end up there!

[@SchrodingersCat8813]

In fairness SFMM has one of the best coasters I've ridden...I mean ya got a ride that is 2 RMCs for the price of one! I agree enthusiasts are often ridiculous...I've gotten so much crap for loving Millennium Force bc to many its basically hot garbage covered in pee lol but idk this ride looks just OK. Bigger and cost isnt always better. Twisted Colossus tbh seems way better

[@obamaalert6602]

No more RF2 review petition now it's time for the Woodstock Express review petition

[@97.3greensports]

We need to RMC Woodstock express

[@spaghettibowls7278]

Planet Coaster review

[@obamaalert6602]

@@spaghettibowls7278 the legend

[@coastercraziness]

We need a Lil Phantom review

[@zacharystewart5344]

Fluff dat! Review the legend! That thing is nuts!

[@jieransmikenna7010]

unpopular opinion but I just wanna put it out there that the turn around is possibly my favorite part of this ride. I've ridden it 12 times so far and absolutely love it! It has a weird effect where if u sit in the back row on the right side, it gives an almost upside-down effect which is amazing! On top of that, u can really feel the drop on the turnaround too, its a whipping feeling that is just amazing. Totally respect your opinion, I just wanted to say that I personally love it and that's why.

[@Nostalgicnicolerhodes]

Such a fun ride! We saved this ride for last, however, we didn’t want to ride it for the first time at night. But time got ahead of us, and we rode at night, in the rain, in the VERY back. I do not regret it. The experience was out of this world. I really felt like I was riding a nebula lol

[@fxjrulpzxi]

SAME. Can’t believe people are saying “meh” like wtf this thing is a MONSTER!

[@JJJJ-he8bz]

Orion is easily the best ride at Kings Island. I felt it blew Diamondback out of the water and made it pointless to me. The only I didn’t like about is that it’s the same manufacturer and the similarities between them. I like the Magnum, Millennium combo much more because they are completely different. I felt Orion ruined Diamondback because you instantly noticed the difference.

[@DanielsTruths]

bruh, especially in the front, its a whole new experience...

[@sedricgranger]

I disagree! Diamondback just gives you the dose of pure airtime! Orion gives you a better mix of elements! I’m not complaining to have these lovely B&M’s in my backyard. Two is better than one!

[@sedricgranger]

Plus I’d take Diamondback over magnum any day IMO (magnum has a lot of charm though with its Jankiness) and I personally like Orion slightly more than Millie

[@showbizwisconsin8350]

@@sedricgranger I thought Diamondback was better then Orion. The airtime on diamondback is some of the best out there, especially compared to my local park's hyper, Raging Bull.

[@mr.intamin1081]

Ride leviathan… best giga and the first.

[@brennankuhn]

Now all kings island needs is an rmc and they will literally be the perfect park

[@JoshSmith-me7oe]

Brennan rmc the beast in the coming decade would be awesome. But probably won’t happen.

[@thecoasterfollower3564]

Like their up north neighbors, except with an actual good wooden coaster a

[@HeatherBurns47]

They need to rmc racer it takes up a ton of room and you could do something like twisted colossus at magic mountain Bcz it has really low rider ship

[@bluepenguingaming1690]

Baseball fanatic 47 I was gonna say this but you beat me to it

[@HudsonDiTomaso]

Kings Island - 10/10 Cedar Point - 7.8/10, *Too much water* around it.

[@thequackenscoasterchannel2927]

I never thought Diamondback had a rattle, and I rode it 8 times last August. Banshee was a little jittery, but not bad at all

[@DanielsTruths]

agreed

[@josiahhall1821]

(insert joke of diamondback having a rattle as in the snake)

[@lars4356]

Here we go again with Taylor complaining about roughness

[@SharkyCartelRailroad]

I have ridden it and didn't thought it had a rattle. It was gloss smooth!

[@SuperCavaliersfan]

I rode it twice opening day and was underwhelmed both rides, but it was as smooth as a mint coaster should be. No roughness experienced other than 7 instances of downtime during my waits.

[@Zrj19]

Have ridden it four times, definitely a little shaky but it is TOTALLY tolerable, it’s just something you notice, doesn’t take away from the ride experience at all

[@Jackrabbit7]

Lars But it rattled

[@asterisKs1]

@@Zrj19 its kings islands ground, b&m couldn't do anything about the smoothness

[@k-2l91]

Now it’s time for the Orion Parody

[@gavin2954]

Yesssssssssssssssssss

[@triplej755]

My thought too!

[@sonicthehedgehoggamingfan8028]

Same here. It'll take some time and we will wait for the parody until 2021 or this year

[@_trxzy_2671]

“Banshee is flat out rough”... I hope that was a joke

[@NotDavidz]

@Keptix ^

[@NotDavidz]

@Keptix that means agreeing

[@zzzsleepingdragonzzz]

Ummm it depends on where you ride n what time of day…

[@axlthepaxll]

it was so smooth bro what

[@NotDavidz]

@@axlthepaxll next they'll think all B&M hypers are rough

[@ShagWagon]

This coaster had soo much potential. It had enough speed for some awesome turns, loops, ext. All that speed just to have a rough brake check into the station. At least just 1 large loop would have bled some speed before the brake check and would have been an awesome feature to a gig coaster

[@crashcoaster3852]

Banshee is ROUGH? I mean I knew it was rattly but not that bad.

[@sedricgranger]

CrashCoaster no it ain’t rough at all! Kings island is my home park and it’s not rough. It has some bad days but majority of the time it’s just fine. I’d say it’s much smoother than Raptor at cedar point for reference

[@funny.gon-12]

Yhea but raptor is old and banshee is the newest invert as of 2020 and for another two years I belive .

[@molestingfood]

Dude banshee is hella rough

[@rosspro6466]

Banshee is easily my most favorite ride in the park. It's kicks so much ass!

[@bananabri14]

Kings island is my home park and I've noticed recently that Banshee consistently gives me headaches (not to mention the restraints are uncomfortable on your hips). It shakes so much now...if it has "bad days" then every time I go to Kings Island must be a bad day for Banshee lol. It still has some great moments though, the first drop and the slow roll at the end keep me coming back

[@jojo_hendriks]

Idk what you saying but Diamondback didn’t have a rattle last year, and Banshee also is Glas in the very front and back

[@sedricgranger]

Kärnan Fanboy Agreed. Taylor has ridden a lot of coasters so maybe his idea of smoothness is different than our definition of it

[@TheAlternateYT]

As a Kings Island home park person who went to it 20 times I agree with Themeparkworldwide in saying Diamondback is so rough it doesn't even feel like a B&m but does still have good airtime. Banshee is definetly not smooth but its my most marathoned ride at Ki throughout all of my visits but its still currently my fav ride there pending riding Orion

[@PrinceRoyceFan667]

IKR its possible Taylor may have different definitions of smoothness than the rest of us. rides that I think are rough like Kumba and Kracken he thinks are smooth, and some coasters that I think are smooth like Diamondback and Banchee he thinks is rough. I guess coasters experiences are subjective.

[@Morgetiud]

Banshee? glass smooth? no... ive ridden several inverts and most are glass smooth like Raptor, Banshee has had a bad rattle from the day it opened and has only gotten worse every year I come back to ride it (still a great ride but smooth? No, it may be the roughest B&M invert out there)

[@OklahomaCoasterFan]

I rode Diamondback & Banshee last year, and both were very rattly. Diamondback was so bad, I got a bad headache every time. Some people either don't feel the rattle, or it doesn't give them a headache. I wish I were one of those people.

[@danieldupont5276]

My Father is a Mechanical Engineer, and I asked him why the larger rides at the park vibrate. He said that the soil in southern Ohio is very soft, which causes the foundations of the roller coasters to shift. This in turn, causes the supports and groundwork to be out of place. He also said that the reason why you especially feel it on the B&M's is because of how much heavier their track design is compared to other manufactures.

[@Tacoaloto]

Once it starts running full trains, this thing will start to haul a lot more, making that helix crazy.

[@ducksfan_1149]

Tacoaloto B&M trims are adjustable tho I don’t think that’ll be the case

[@SharkyCartelRailroad]

That's what I was thinking

[@AirtimeThrills]

Aw man, now I gotta wait in line for 15 hours to get 5 rides before I start liking it

[@bengalsosu2545]

I went to kings island on June 6th, They are doing a system we’re they give you a ticket for a time period, during that time period you give your card to the people at front, and your able to ride, You can only ride it once per day unless the lines are short at the end of the day, then you can get more rides. I am a subscriber to your Chanel and also coaster studios

[@sedricgranger]

Bengals OSU hopefully the lines get down lower because I’d love to ride it more than once on Thursday

[@ryanmai7997]

I waited around 15 minutes on a FRIDAY

[@sedricgranger]

Ryan Mai yep you can get some crazy good lines at times! My friend and I did Orion 7 times in one hour

[@ryanmai7997]

Sedric Granger Yea they weren’t even handing access passes out either

[@jasonsmith4255]

It's very interesting seeing all the reviews. You're the first I've seen say it's got that shimmy. Most have said its glass smooth or has a slight rattle in the middle of the train. Also an 8 is the lowest I've seen by far. Maybe your expectations hampered this. I'm not saying it's perfect but I dont think it's as low as you rated it. Also saying banshee is rough is a new one for me. My family and I ridden it several times over many years it's never been rough. Diamondback has always been pretty smooth for me with a slight rattle at times but nothing crazy.

[@paulcorso]

I’ve been thinking that KI’s ground could be the cause for the B&Ms rattling but have never heard anyone else mention it, so it’s nice to hear someone else mention it!

[@ArrowThrills]

How ?

[@TonyKimtheamusementparkfan]

@@ArrowThrills It's because of the fact that if you don't have stronger ground and soil, the footers can shake and vibrate due to the forces of the trains cycling the track. It's more noticeable when the ground changes overtime. So the track is not the problem, but the footers that bring that vibration from the ground, up to the supports, and to the trains, which cause that vibration.

[@trkepler8969]

@@TonyKimtheamusementparkfan This is possible since Ohio does have nice fertile soil but eventually you'd get deep enough to hit rock or soil with good bearing capacity. You would hope that the engineers wouldn't short change on the foundation in this manner but maybe they feel Good enough is good enough. Either way if that is the problem the fix would be fairly easy and cheap to remedy. Maybe it just needs to get really bad before the problem is addressed

[@alegsb3943]

“You see a satellite on top of the building” the space nerd in me is pissed

[@CoasterJawn]

Totally agree with front row but I think this is the newest most underrated coaster, it’s my #1 at Kings Island

[@matthewb9241]

When I was a kid walking into flight of fear looking over that flying saucer spaceship was enough for me to question my decision to get on that ride. It was pretty scary for a kid. Flight of Fear....or for the OG’s, The Outer Limits is one of the best coasters at KI.

[@willemfleming7041]

Everytime i hear someone say something bad about a coaster this size or something so spectecular i feel so weird, cause in the netherlands you don't have rides like this and even a b&m hyper would probably be top 5 in the Netherlands. So not seeing this coaster getting a 10/10 makes me wonder what is bad about a coaster like this.

[@larryjerry1]

It's not that it's bad, it's just that it doesn't tick all the boxes most coaster enthusiasts use for "this is the best coaster ever." This kind of ride as is designed for a more wide-spread appeal to the general public.

[@andrewpike2398]

It just feels like a taller diamondback almost if it stayed low to the ground i would liked a lot more but it's not bad it's my second favorite in the park probably

[@sedricgranger]

Since Kings Island is my home park and so sentimental to me as well as this being my first year I’m old enough to buy my own season pass and go to the park when I want as an official adult, this coaster is my dream! I’ve been waiting for a gig a for the park I love so dearly for so long and this is everything I could’ve asked for! These are critics, so they are supposed to find some things the ride can do better for our entertainment, but ,at the end of the day, all I care is if the roller coaster is fun and enjoyable. If it’s fun and enjoyable then it’s going to be great in my book!

[@wozborne88]

This is a very good ride. A lot of coaster enthusiasts compare this to another similar coaster Fury 325, and see if it reaches the bar that was set with that coaster, and end up getting disappointed. Almost every theme park would love to have a ride like this. It is a very good coaster (right now toss up with Diamondback for best KI coaster), though if it just had one or two more elements, making it a tad longer, it would be even better.

[@williamjones7589]

@@andrewpike2398 Leviathan and Fury are taller diamondbacks too its just a bias towards this.

[@MOUNTAINOUS]

i was there for 2 days. i had not rode a coaster for 25 years. and i had only done that one day in my life. i went last weekend. this was my first ride in 25. i am a old dude. it was so fun. scary climb. i was like oh my god but i rode tons at kings island. i will be editing videos of the haunts and the roller coasters. the bmx show. i will be editing 2 weeks and putting out i bet 12 videos on kings island. what a epic ride. this coaster was so awesome. i loved mystic timbers and diamond back a lot also. so fun. your video is epic man. and i just subbed to you also

[@adrenalinerush5862]

Great review, but do you like it more or less than Leviathan? I was hoping you would make that clear during the video but you didn’t.

[@arjunski]

He gave Leviathan a 9/10 and this an 8/10 so I THINK that he probably likes Leviathan a little more...

[@adrenalinerush5862]

AJB True, but his final scores should never be compared to one another, Taylor stated that himself.

[@arjunski]

Adrenaline Rush gotcha, never mind then tho...

[@blacklisted351]

In his new video, I think he ranked Orion higher.

[@arjunski]

@@blacklisted351 yup he did, tho if it weren't for the theming, I think Leviathan would be slightly higher, I don't know, it could go either way...

[@the_synack]

When I road Orion it felt pretty smooth to me, but maybe I'm less sensitive to those sorts of things. I really enjoyed Orion, and I can't wait to get back to King's Island to ride it again.

[@danthecoasterman22]

8 is tough for a giga for an enthusiast. So much potential, I feel like a giga has to be at least a 9. At the end of the day though, it’s about the GP, and they will eat this up and give it a 10/10

[@joewilson5286]

If you go into a ride with an overly analytical mind then your views will be clouded. Orion's a great fun giga coaster similar to the one's built before it with it's own unique layout. Some wanted a record breaker which would probably be too intense for the general populace. Note how the lines for i305 are usually quite short due to the rides excessive intensity. Cedar Fair learned it's lesson and went with B&M for it's last 3 Giga's after i305...they want people to actually ride the ride and the name of the game is to make money

[@thecrazycoaster6635]

I rate it 8 1/2 out of 10 because Orion just doesn't have that wow factor like Fury but it's really good ride though I'm being serious

[@ArrowThrills]

KI should have gotten a mack giga.

[@MrMjlanahan]

I do agree with you! I only rode it once, but I loved it right away. I was distracted, however by having to hold my sunglasses on my face because it was at the point in the day where the sun was blazing and just starting to go down. Super fun and can’t wait to ride it again!

[@iceblade019]

so the giga ranking is coming?

[@journeytree]

Kings Island should receive an award for most rides that you can only ride once due to the headache they provide.

[@coasterdaddy7123]

Good review. I went opening day and could only manage to get one ride. After waiting four hours I ate and rode a few other things and by the time I got off Mystic Timbers it was 7. I will definitely be back this year though I believe, mainly for more rides on this. For that single ride I was assigned to the front and I was impressed. Definitely way better than what I could've hoped for. I'm a Diamondback fanboy but I think I may slightly prefer this to Diamondback.

[@EgansChannel]

This will probably be my first giga, possible even first over 200 feet depending on when SFGAm opens, and I’m pretty excited

[@matthewcasale892]

If your talking about great America they can’t open till phase 5, which is when a cure or very efficient cure is widely available. It really sucks

[@hellobooom]

@@matthewcasale892 at best I bet they'll be closed deep into next season.

[@TheJustgetitdone330]

I haven’t ridden yet but you’ve pretty much summed up my thoughts based on POV’s, which usually aren’t always good indicators. But when you’ve ridden over 150 coasters, and many B&M’s, you can gauge what the experience will be like since many, if not most of their elements are cookie cutter. B&M is great for chain parks because they are extremely reliable, they’re people esters and they aren’t scary to the GP. And that translates into revenue because let’s face it, most parks and coasters do not cater to the enthusiast. There’s a lot more of them than there are of us. As you said, they have tons of land to use and had the opportunity to go huge. But from a dollars and cents view, it doesn’t make sense to do that.

[@Ky-hc5hw]

omg "Orion's Belt" that's adorable💕

[@coasterexplosion4428]

Honestly kings island has the best themed coasters in the country when it comes to amusement parks

[@sleepdeep305]

I'd say that Cedar Fair as a whole has an amazing grasp on theming their amusement parks, but I don't think that KI is their best park to show off that side of them (Even though Area 72 is one of my favorite areas in any amusement park, ever)

[@Coastoons]

anyone know why leviathan has weird track at 3:54 then transitions into regular B&M track

[@metrofilmer8894]

Most, if not all, larger B&M hyper models have a larger box beam to support the lift hill. They go up and then down with the track, separating when the drop starts to level out. What you saw was that larger box beam on the first drop of leviathan.

[@97.3greensports]

I’m just glad Kings Island got a giga

[@CMH-aviation]

That helix is crazy depending on the speed of the train and time of day and ill add im wondering if the trim on the air time hill before has something to do with how fast you fly through the helix.

[@Terrell2119]

The ride is great. It is different from other coasters. I been to Cedar Point almost every year for a long time. I think Orion has it's own characteristics. I wouldn't want it to be like any other ride. It fits in great with what the park already has in context. Who knows what Cedar Fair will put in there next. They have tons of land to grow.

[@germancoasterenthusiast3123]

B&M the only manufacturer that can build a 300ft high and 5300 ft long coaster that doesn't get preferred to a 98ft wooden coaster that cost half the money.

[@gavin2954]

Hahaha yep

[@JJJJ-he8bz]

😂 the first drop on this alone is better than all of mystic timbers

[@eriklakeland3857]

For coaster enthusiasts, sure. Orion will be a GP crowd pleaser.

[@bbolin5626]

I think because Cedar Fair doesn’t want a repeat of what happened with I305.

[@gavin2954]

@@bbolin5626 Thats a good point

[@zacmoylan4317]

Will you be going to Hersheypark anytime soon

[@CoasterStudios]

I will at some point this summer

[@anthonyweigel1910]

@@CoasterStudios cant wait until you come to HersheyPark and then review Candymonium

[@danv4295]

@@CoasterStudios Can you give a candymonium review if you do? TY

[@ItsDavidU]

Candymonium packs more of a punch for being only 210 feet.

[@dubvuchyea502]

I just marathoned this ride 15 times today and I'm a firm believer in tbe front seat. I did notice a bit of vibration but it's not something that's distracting or negative for me at all. It's still glass smooth.i thought it was forceful and engaging and I really enjoyed it.

[@jcspotter7322]

I rode diamondback today, its much smoother than last year, probably newer wheels and axles maybe?

[@DanielsTruths]

i haven't ridden a bnm that ain't smooth lol

[@PersonLabeledN0AH]

That turnaround looks like a reversed treble clef. Thanks for the review Taylor! 👍👏

[@PersonLabeledN0AH]

13Shelby #facts

[@expeditioned2821]

The question is, what will Vortex be replaced with next as it's just weird to not see the classic Arrow Looper there now. Orion can still smash the area former

[@ducksfan_1149]

I personally feel King’s island deserves a ground up hyper hybrid, but it seems like cedar fair wants a dive at all their major parks. I’m guessing an infinity dive for 2023

[@rumizuums]

So true

[@rivelite8433]

Kings island needs a modern launch coaster.

[@HeatherBurns47]

Mock launch

[@bluepenguingaming1690]

I hope something like Copperhead Strike goes in place of Vortex

[@Beatin722]

I remember going past kings island several times when the ride was being constructed and it towered over the diamond back

[@ThrillsofColdplay]

That’s odd that many of these steel coasters at the park rattle

[@TonyKimtheamusementparkfan]

Especially when they're B&M coasters that shouldn't do that. But I guess Kings Island's soil is not very good for some reason.... :( The B&Ms at my home park, Canada's Wonderland are very smooth (well Behemoth does have a bit of a rattle, but that doesn't bother me). Leviathan and Yukon Striker are glass smooth tho.

[@Deadsphere]

@@joewilson5286 Honestly, Banshee has a pretty bad rattle.

[@lukerides3900]

@@Deadsphere i have never felt a rattle on banshee. maybe it's the train you sit in?

[@OklahomaCoasterFan]

@@TonyKimtheamusementparkfan Yes, Leviathan & YS are so smooth. I was so impressed by that last year. After riding Fury & Valravn, both great but still extremely rattly, I was not expecting Leviathan & YS to be so smooth.

[@TonyKimtheamusementparkfan]

@@OklahomaCoasterFan Yeah, I mean Yukon Striker is only a year old, and Leviathan has been around for 8 years, and still amazingly smooth somehow :)

[@NRGFLOGaming]

Good review Taylor! I am interested in getting out to Kings Island like whenever I can to ride Orion and the other coasters there. Funny, I didn't know that the KI B&M coasters all have this rattle/vibration to them. I didn't know that the ground which Kings Islands sits upon was not too strong or solid. Hopefully this won't bother me too much. Hopefully the KI B&M rattle isn't as bad as the rattle on Magnum XL-200 at Cedar Point.

[@HonduDan]

Same, the first ride broke my heart. I was in the middle, felt that awful vibration and just felt shortchanged. After having several more rides on Orion and getting the front seat experience, I love it to death. The last banked hill absolutely blew me away and everyone I've talked to was extremely surprised by that nice little element. It's the ride experience plus the fantastic theming, its great.

[@hannahfriddle4420]

I totally agree that the first time I rode this coaster I was a bit disappointed, but we came back at the end of the day for another ride just to see if we felt differently and we totally did. I'm not sure if it was because I had never ridden it and did not know what to expect, but the second ride was MUCH more enjoyable and overall a better experience.

[@braydenmunger8391]

Ok wow that makes sense because all there b&ms have a rattle

[@TonyKimtheamusementparkfan]

Kinda unfortunate tbh :(

[@Feuerfr3i]

Cedar Point B&Ms do too. I hear it's how the weight is distributed with people on it. More left side than right, more back than front, etc.

[@StubenRocks]

I could see the theory regarding the land being valid. I live about 5 miles from KI. When I built my backyard deck, I had to rent a full-size auger to dig 6 ft post holes - SIX FEET - and it was STILL a struggle. I can't even imagine how deep you have to go to put in a 300ft support post. But, yeah, our land is absolute garbage. You hit clay 6 inches down. Thanks ancient glaciers.....

[@squillz8310]

I forgot who it was, but another coaster KZbinr put it really well. As you said, you really have to focus on what Orion DOES. Not what it DOESN'T do. But the idea of Orion is different from that of Fury or Leviathan. They're meant to take the course really quick and focus on ejector and strong forces. Whereas Orion is mean to focus on it's large, sweeping elements. It's meant to be graceful, not incredibly intense. Think of the ride as you flying through the universe among the stars. That's the idea of Orion. That's why people warm up to it after a while. They get over why they don't like it, and fall in love with why they do. Still a unique coaster.

[@danieldupont5276]

As a local, I think that it’s very embarrassing that our Arrow suspended coaster is smoother than all the B&Ms in the park.

[@andrewpike2398]

Lmao true I love those coasters I wish they would bring them back

[@sedricgranger]

I disagree 😂 now the bat is super smooth but our B&M’s aren’t even that rough 🤦🏾‍♂️ I feel the whole coaster community has a bad perception of kings island’s B&M! Even if they have some shakiness the smoothness is no worse than a 7/10 on the smoothness scale

[@andrewpike2398]

@@sedricgranger it's kind of a joke but I think the bat will age better then any of our b and ms will imo

[@gibbles12]

I think I like the drop more in the front because you crest the top of the lift hill slower than in the back and you can see the track below you

[@DJGAMING-ev8zr]

This is the underdog of giga coasters

[@kyhellbillyify]

We’ve ride it 2 times. My wife liked the back and I liked the front. I personally think it’s a great coaster. Not necessarily all time great but still a great coaster. Your also right. It has the KI giggles.

[@bumgorf]

Thx for the review. I thought I had to form my own opinion for a sec

[@GregSkinner]

rode orion yesterday. didnt have high expectations but this ride is AMAZING! ive never experienced so much air time on a ride. my butt was only touching the seat for, maybe, 50% of the time on the ride!

[@maxhagenauer24]

Would you say it's better or worse than Steel Dragon 2000?

[@Metal_Groove45]

I think Steel Dragon 2000 would rank lower than Orion, because in his Steel Dragon 2000 review, Taylor said that the layout felt more like a hyper than a giga coaster!

[@blacklisted351]

In his new video, Orion is ranked higher.

[@maxarimany546]

Bruh what do you think

[@ajraine8728]

Carowinds sits on a mix of clay and old sand, and we definitely have the B&M rattle here- you can actually see the sway on Fury- so it likely has the same sort of "big give" supports they'd have at the sister park.

[@roxynano]

12:12 Wait a second what did you say? Banshee is flat out rough? Sure it may have an occasional shake but rough? Does Rougarou doesn’t exist anymore? That is rough right there.

[@3rectilefunction200]

Neither ride is rough at all lmao

[@deathrooster14]

I rode Banshee yesterday and it was REALLY bad. Probably the roughest BnM I've ever ridden.

[@maxhagenauer24]

I agree, Banshee is not rough, a little rattle but no heading, no large roughness, not enough to call it a rough ride.

[@andrewrichesson8627]

I had a really painful ride on banshee this year. Yes the rattle is bad.

[@GenesisLover2002]

I also have ridden Banshee relatively recently (last year), and I would definitely say it's quite a bit rougher than you'd expect.

[@nickmiller398]

I love this channel so much definitely in my top five including theme park worldwide etc this channel is very yet amazing

[@nickjo1492]

This seems to be a very polarizing coaster. Everyone seems to either really like it or just think it’s meh. Interesting, I’ll see what I think when I give it a ride soon.

[@CisForCoasters]

I got my first ride at sunset last night. It was beautiful! My daughter had a rough ride, lucky I didn't.

[@flowerblightganon5449]

This ride is easily the best in the park, remember that we are not mechanics and we cannot complain about the price tag because we dont have 30 mil laying around

[@cockyjeremy]

I wouldn't say easily. Banshee and Mystic Timbers are right there with it. Diamondback too.

[@ramseywondersek3216]

It's finally here!!!! Thank you Taylor!

[@Coolsomeone234]

Should have given it a tunnel, wrap the helix around the drop and smaller airtime hills

[@sedricgranger]

Someone 234 yeah helix around the drop would’ve been pretty dope! That is a great idea! I do like the view or Orion’s Belt though from the area 72. It’s cool looking

[@smuella]

Why even call it a wave turn? It's a wall stall at most since it is not bent outwards. It's even bent inwards a little. Has B&M or the park called it that way?

[@mattmarrillia4907]

I think we’re all over looking the fact that it’s a giga. Can we really complain? Other parks would be begging for this thing, I say take what ya get

[@Koasterking212]

Seriously. So many people would kill to have this at their home park. It’s easy to see why enthusiasts are being spoiled.

[@Varadict]

I figured out why the Anti-rollback system is so quiet. (Or at least I am assuming this is the case) There seems to be a small metal fin adjacent to the anti-rollback track on the right side. When the ride is slower you can definitely silently hear the antis clacking quietly from the padding, but when the train is moving at full speed up the lift, it disappears completely. I feel like it might be something like a magnetic fin to hold the Anti-rollbacks up while the train is moving quickly, and then it drops as the train slows down.

[@mrmuffins951]

Raging Bull at SFGAmerica has an element at the end very similar to the “unique” Orion’s belt element.

[@Chezburger8]

But Raging Bull isn’t like the other B&M hypers so it must be bad!!!!!!!!! I hated his raging bull review

[@Air_Tr3]

Three stages to Orion: 1: Ehh 2. OK! 3: Great but not the best in the park Very interesting! We felt the same on our first ride on Wednesday!

[@coasterhockygamingboy9549]

Will you make a top 50 in 2021?

[@CoasterStudios]

No

[@coasterhockygamingboy9549]

Hmmmm A top 30?

[@NoOne0716]

How is banshee rough? The only rough thing is the fact that it goes upside down I've been on that ride 4 times and it feels so smooth

[@wade31786]

I just rode it for the first time this Saturday and I agree. It was a super smooth ride.

[@tiedough7481]

Great pumpkin coaster review still waiting 🤬🤬🤬

[@maxhagenauer24]

This is going to be a massive meme in 2021, I just know it.

[@tiedough7481]

Max Hagenauer Meme? I’m being serious >:(

[@maxhagenauer24]

@@tiedough7481 I thought you were joking because I highly doubt he will do a review of this. He only does reviews for Thrill coasters and sometimes family coasters, not junior or kiddie ones.

[@tiedough7481]

Max Hagenauer great pumpkin is in my top 10. I haven’t ridden it but I have dreamed about it so much to the point where I know the ride experience. It’s up there with medusa at sfdk.

[@maxhagenauer24]

@@tiedough7481 That's fine if it's in your top 10, but it's still a kiddie coaster and I hate to brake it to you but as I said, Coaster Studios doesn't review kiddie coasters, but if it's one of your favorite coasters then that's fine. Everyone has there own opinions. (:

[@cardio8133]

I rode Orion for the first time in the front seat with my brother and it did not disappoint

[@indiram5934]

In which order would you place all the giga coasters?

[@CoasterKid93]

So I recently went to Kings Island for the very first time this past Labor Day, and I *immediately* fell in love with this ride. I could do without the dumb trim brake on the second airtime hill, but I loved every other moment of Orion. (The only other giga is I305, which I prefer just by a smidge.)

[@MrClean36]

Did you prefer this or Leviathan? Ride experience wise.

[@kylebetz9684]

My guess is that this is his second or third least favorite giga, just in front of Red force and steel dragon 2000. He has hinted at this being a little worse than Levi

[@Florida-mAndrew]

I went to KI for the first time last year. This was a great ride, but why did CF decide to put it here? there are a lot of parks that would love a B&M giga, yet they put it right next to Diamondback, which felt almost exactly the same...

[@disciplerocks13]

Uhhhhhhh, Banshee is not rough. King's Island is my home park and I've been on Banshee a bunch. Never had a rough ride.

[@sedricgranger]

Dan Harding agreed. When Taylor said that, I shouted “BS” at my ipad😂

[@andrewk6712]

I’ve had a few bad rides on banshee but it’s not rough

[@3x_Leo]

Banshee isn't rough and I did not feel the slightest rattle on orion. Kings island is my home park as well and everytime someone says banshee is rough I just scratch my head. Also when he said Orion had a rattle I rolled my eyes

[@sedricgranger]

Wesley Michael me too. Now everyone I’m the coaster community is going to say that King’s islands B&M’s are rough thanks to this review. Taylor has a big influence on the community as a whole so some of his opinions are easily adopted so now people are going to look at our B&M’s as rough when in reality none of them are even close to being rough

[@rosalindstevenson8614]

If you want a rough invert go ride Raptor

[@zz6-z]

Will you do a Coaster Fight for Orion and Fury 325?

[@Scxrpionz]

“Orioion Two-hundred Eighty Seven Jigga coaster is a nightmare to the rider.”

[@braxtonhill417]

I went to Kings Island this past summer and I absolutely LOVED Orion. Got 6 rides on it, including a night ride, which really gives you the illusion that you’re flying through space. Also, Banshee is NOT rough. (at least when I rode it)