I think Orochimarus goal never changed (knowledge of "all") . His immortality-shenanigans were needed to have enough time,but with the new jutsutype on the table he needs otsutsukification and thats why he went with the mitsuki-road.
@FolkBoyify2 жыл бұрын
Otusukification.. I like that!
@brycel.82912 жыл бұрын
Well people are forgetting that he is practically otsutsuki and he mentions this sort of when fighting victor, he says he has perfected his immortal body and literally heals in an instant from getting his arm blown off faster and better than victors. He most definitely used zetsus body who is either deemed as an otsutsuki or what I think is a karma manifested as a being by kaguya. He might have powers to then manipulate karma seals. The point is your right though, and supposedly he’s been hard at work whenever we see him in boruto, doing what??? Also he seems unfazed by everything that’s been happening which tells me he knows a lot more than we do and posses power likely beyond naruto and sasuke at this point. He participates in the victor charade briefly then mentions oh an incomplete divine tree and destroys his assistant without even moving. I also don’t think Mitsuki is his only trump, he’s definitely made himself capable or will use mitsuki in the future for his own personal gain. He’s never been good, his goals literally align with the otsutsuki. He’s to me on the same quest as all to reach shibais godhood.
@gustavosifuentes39912 жыл бұрын
@@brycel.8291 awesome 😎
@BHLFPS32 жыл бұрын
orochimaru may just be from the land of eddies..his knowledge of their imperfected karma seal and other jutsu are far to extensive to ignore. Him having karin around isnt a coincidence either. He may be playing the end game to transcend into godhood OR may just be the one to save the world in the end
@rajaryan44242 жыл бұрын
Man just the idea sounds so cool, hopefully Orochimaru gets some screen time so this doesn't feel like a Zetsu moment if it actually happens
@khalilp252 жыл бұрын
These are great theories but mitskui was affected by eida ability, so with him being a clone of orichmaru wouldn’t he be affected too hinting at the fact that he isn’t related to shibai.
@zeppelincraft14432 жыл бұрын
Orochimaru finally transcending the mortal plane to sit on the throne of god that keeps an eye on humanity seems strangely fitting.
@insight1239 Жыл бұрын
What if it's an Aizen moment
@SpammytheHedgehog2 жыл бұрын
Remember when people made rumors about Mitsuki being the love child between Orochimaru and Toneri? 😂
@alexwasherefirst2 жыл бұрын
I thought people were saying Kabuto clapped Orochimaru's cheeks
@Hawk.1232 жыл бұрын
@@alexwasherefirst don’t say it like that man 😂😂😂
@goldenwolf_gamingYT2 жыл бұрын
@@alexwasherefirst sounds like an orochimaru thing too🤣🤣🤣💀💀💀💀
@maagic20312 жыл бұрын
i mean i think its all but confirmed that kabuto clapped orochimaru's cheeks. the only mystery is if that resulted in mitsuki or if its a completely unrelated event
@alexwasherefirst2 жыл бұрын
@@Hawk.123 how would you put it lmao
@derekwallace19552 жыл бұрын
For me the two strongest pieces of evidence that you presented were the curse mark working very similarly to the karma mark and the fact that grafting orochimaru's DNA onto Kabuto eventually lead to Orochimaru's consciousness influencing or taking over Kabuto. Maybe it had to do with his strong will to survive and live forever, but there has been other times where DNA from one person was grafted onto another with no emergence of anther consciousness. Which kinda points a finger towards the fact that there is something unique about Orochimaru's DNA/ heritage. 🤔
@danielestrada33902 жыл бұрын
Or possibly, he got taught by an otsutsuki or found a relic from an otsutsuki.
@jamestitus4722 жыл бұрын
@@danielestrada3390 yeah it could be an obscure jutsu, which is what i think was the original intent. But now that the Kaguya plot has become the central focus of the series since the end of shippuden, I think it's shifted to one of those 3 options. Or at the very least, is ripe opportunity for new lore that makes the case.
@jamestitus4722 жыл бұрын
Ditto. Curse seal bit hit me like a truck.
@chriscollins32252 жыл бұрын
Like with Danzo he didn't start to become hashirama Same with Madara Uchiha
@williamswain23032 жыл бұрын
Thats actually what I compare the karma mark to lmao
@QuincyShears2 жыл бұрын
Orochimaru= God of Roaches
@unique_storm_7772 жыл бұрын
😂
@Trinichaos74502 жыл бұрын
God of little kids
@darthnovius32812 жыл бұрын
Lol this man is still living while all y'all favorites are dead
@adrianblanchard4162 жыл бұрын
You can't kill him, so fitting
@m0ist01202 жыл бұрын
oROACHhimaru
@joaquincasascortes6242 жыл бұрын
The fact that both the curse mark seal for Orochimaru and black zetsu for Kaguya work in a simillar manner to karma for the Otsusuki is interesting, Kishimoto already planted multiple hints about it very early in the story.
@AzA6092 жыл бұрын
Orochimaru is the OG Otsutsuki. Everything they do and have already done is what the Otsutsuki strive to currently do. Both Orochimaru and the Otsutsuki clan (the alien one) have the same main goal, which is to acquire ultimate knowledge and power and both recognise to achieve that you first need immortality. Their methods of immortality is done the exact same way by finding a specfic perfect host, apply a curse mark, then that mark gives the host insane power amps and a new appearance but all this power is a mere side effect to the real goal being a "checkpoint" to revive Orochimaru/Otsutsuki. Whenever Orochimaru or an Otsutsuki die... THEY DON'T. They cheat death. They cheat the people close to them all to achieve their ultimate goal of divine knowledge and power. They both have their own cults and have people who worship them despite their obvious villainy because Orochimaru/Otsutsuki lure their followers with near impossible promises that only gods can do (e.g. bring back the dead or bless you with ultimate power) and these promises are things that Orochimaru/Otsutsuki can actually successfully do. Orochimaru has been there and done it all before. I always thought it was strange how the Boruto story is copy and pasting Orochimaru's character narrative onto the Otsutsuki, but calling Orochimaru an Otsutsuki is something that fits far too well. Orochimaru eventually became chill and good so maybe the current evil Otsutsuki will eventually copy and become good guys. Orochimaru knows a whole lot more about the Otsutsuki. The Boruto story likes to ignore the original characters in favour of the new ones but Orochimaru and Mitsuki are important characters, which means Orochimaru has an important role to play. Amado and the Otsutsuki could never dethrone the true OG.
@767Shadow2 жыл бұрын
Maybe.... Otsutsuki are different type of mitsuki created by orochimaru in the future... They send them back in time through some space-time nonsense.
@Valkyrae1232 жыл бұрын
@@767Shadow please no, that sounds horrible
@derekwallace19552 жыл бұрын
So this kinda leads to sort of the chicken or the egg debate right? Like is Orochimaru so similar to the Otsutsuki cause he is some how descended from that Klan? Or are the Otsutsuki like Orochimaru cause as they are just trying to recreate Naruto in Boruto by using character motivations that they know work? So basically which came first the Otsutsuki or Orochimaru? In the series we are exposed to Orochimaru long before we hear about the Otsutsuki even though they have existed in the Naruto universe for thousands and possibly hundreds of thousands of years?
@phanieachiaabonsu64132 жыл бұрын
@@lorddoomer7271 Hopefully we might see that if the novels are officially announced as canon
@swed85062 жыл бұрын
Shit would be the biggest retcon of all fucking time
@Light05852 жыл бұрын
I had a theory that mitsuki was a clone of orochimaru with some of toneri's dna, which explained why his snake sage mode and his appearance is so simmilar to Toneri. Then that would also make mitsuki an otsutsuki. But he was affected by eida's charm which kind of proves that he does not have toneri's dna. But the thing is what if mitsuki getting affected by eida's charm is an act. What if Orochimaru told mitsuki to act as if he's getting affected by eida's charm. What really adds up to the theory is that eida's charm is not a shinjutsu and it was confirmed by Momoshiki and sarada and the class rep were not affected by it in chapter 76.
@ElMachoGringo472 жыл бұрын
I think Mitsuki is smart enough to realize himself that he should fake being effected by her jutsu
@Light05852 жыл бұрын
@@ElMachoGringo47 that can be the case, Mitsuki is definitely more intelligent than the others of his age
@fresleybrock82592 жыл бұрын
Or the reason being is that he doesn't have enough otsutuki DNA to not be affected cause naruto and sauske are released to indra and ahura but they can still be affected be eda
@brycel.82912 жыл бұрын
I think theyll end up just explaining it through pheromones that otsutsuki body’s can’t be manipulated by idk, I also can’t remember if it worked even when she wasn’t present. All I know is that ability is gonna have a whack explanation lol
@travismiller14912 жыл бұрын
Tbh I think females aren't effected by her jutsu because they don't have attraction to her to turn in their heart and mind. It's the perfect way to make sarada useful against her. Lil plot armour.
@dann35742 жыл бұрын
Another theory is that Orochimaru could have been an early prototype by Kishimoto testing out the themes and characteristics of the ootutuskukis he would eventually reveal literally at the end of the series
@DaGamerHemZelf2 жыл бұрын
I dont think that is the truth, mainly because i think the otsutsuki were introduced to extend the life of the series for money by shonen jump which pushed kishimoto to extend the series and he added the otsutsuki so that boruto can be made and make more money, The show ended when madara died, What is after madara's death is done for money.
@EssUchiha2 жыл бұрын
@@DaGamerHemZelf kaguya was only made to finish the story because kishimoto was rushed to finish the series
@SimSim-dd2yr2 жыл бұрын
@@EssUchiha Kaguya was made because the only way Kishimoto could think of to kill madara was either naruto or sasuke had to sacrifice themselves. But then his editors suggested creating a different villain for them to defeat. The reason he didn’t kill either naruto or sasuke is because he thinks that the show/anime/manga mainly focuses on their friendship.
@EssUchiha2 жыл бұрын
@@SimSim-dd2yr I do prefer it that way but kaguya didn’t have to be the final villain it could’ve been anything else
@SimSim-dd2yr2 жыл бұрын
@@EssUchiha The information I told u was straight from kishimoto. Yeah they didn’t have to add Kaguya but if they didn’t Naruto would’ve died. If not Naruto it would be sasuke. And if one of them dies their friendship wouldn’t be full which is what kishimoto thinks the story is mainly about. (Info is from kishimoto)
@DonnGassMusiQ2 жыл бұрын
Orochimaro is really a rear specimen
@MikeBoomie2 жыл бұрын
Orochimaru is the character we need a backstory on fr fr.
@Dildo-Shwaggins2 жыл бұрын
Ong
@mjrtaurus2714 Жыл бұрын
I really hope Orochimaru hits back with something like this in the series. He was always my favorite villain, and still has those obscure motives.
@gregparker86042 жыл бұрын
Hence why Orochimaru was closely followed and possibly still followed by Yamato. Orochimaru is still planning something. Edit: the kaguya clan do not have dojutsu yet they are descendants of an Otosuki and the one surviving clan member worked for who? You guessed it. Orochimaru.
@ln84962 жыл бұрын
He didnt just work for orochimaru. Kimimaro was set up to be his next vessel, and a permanent one at that. Orochimaru met itachi, lost to him, met kimimaro and thought he was in some way comparable as a vessel to itachi. He wanted the body of an otsutsuki.
@gregparker86042 жыл бұрын
@@ln8496 what? Ok.
@alphablob78852 жыл бұрын
@@ln8496 the closest things to an otsutsuki are the kaguya clan and inbred clans of Uchiha and hyuga
@theA731N2 жыл бұрын
I used to tell my friends Orochimaru was literally the God of the show.
@darkerdaemon77942 жыл бұрын
Orochimaru was and still is obsessed with Justus, even stealing ancient scrolls from heavily guarded places, planning ambushes and even kidnapping and committing murders trying to practice such Justus. Since Otsutsuki have such a long and intertwined past in Naruto's world's history, I find it more than feasible that Orochimaru learned about and based a good deal of his Jutsu from Otsutsuki in some fashion. Even if he himself didn't know it specifically, we all know Orochi just reading about some of Otsutsuki feats and descriptions would get homie more bricked up than Jiraiya spying on Tsunade in an onsen.
@mozthegoat92372 жыл бұрын
This theory makes so much sense! The fact that Orochimaru has this obsession over visual jutsus and you can’t just “kill” him under normal means all points towards him being part Otsutsuki. I feel like he is a 2nd or 3rd descendant of the Otsutsuki that bred with snake sages. All we know about Orochimaru’s childhood is that he’s an orphan. His parents and lineage were never explained…He doesn’t even have a last name either…👀👀👀
@ZerMetalFight Жыл бұрын
🤯DAWG
@ZerMetalFight Жыл бұрын
🤯DAWGG!!!! YOOO THIS IS JUST- YOOOOOO
@anarche4900 Жыл бұрын
Wrong he’s just an orphan just like kawaki didn’t have a last name either or mitsuki
@Eric_Smith26622 жыл бұрын
I'd always thought that Orochimaru just never needed to switch bodies after he took over Zetsu since the Zetsu don't need to eat or anything like that
@babygurleatsshickennuggits42012 жыл бұрын
Zetsu was the perfect vessel for him. It was strong enough that he's able to live in it for many years.
@NxJers2 жыл бұрын
Don't need to eat and don't know how to shit
@m.k.o76102 жыл бұрын
@@babygurleatsshickennuggits4201 plus he can clone a new body for himself
@orochimarupr2 жыл бұрын
He has the best regeneration in the verse
@babygurleatsshickennuggits42012 жыл бұрын
@@m.k.o7610 he's so good at regeneration he can grow back entire fucking limbs. Sakara and Tsunade can do that but only with their seal activated. Fucking epic
@sheer_12 жыл бұрын
I think he's trying to perfect Otsutsuki cloning so that he can sacrifice them over and over to achieve Otsutsuki godhood without the usual process.
@onyebuchiogu27252 жыл бұрын
Also Orochimaru for sure has sage in his DNA,because Kabuto only take a piece of Orochimaru’s body and was able to use sage mode in his fight with Itachi and Sasuke. He even grew a horn. Which begs the question, is the most powerful lost otsutsuki clan a clan based on dragons, because they usually say the snakes and dragons are related.
@georgecleaveley6060 Жыл бұрын
The fact he grew a horn could also somehow play into the fact of orochimaru being otsutsuki
@terrancepemberton46482 жыл бұрын
Yo I freaking love this theory. Oro has always been one of my favorites and seeing how he has survived up til this point I feel Oro is meant to serve a much bigger purpose. Whether it be him becoming like a main villain again, or him playing a huge whole in fighting all the big baddies. I for real think something big is coming involving him.
@kiravampira1456 Жыл бұрын
Wish I could upvote your comment more than just once. And even though I'll watch Orochimaru no matter what, as he's beyond handsome and has one of the most alluring voices in the world, I *really* hope they make him the main villain again. Him being a gOoD aNd cHiLL gUy just doesn't feel authentic and it's so much less interesting.
@terrancepemberton4648 Жыл бұрын
@@kiravampira1456 haha I totally agree to that...good guy Orochimaru definitely isn't authentic lol. I just wanna see more Oro no matter what side he's on. He's just dope, and like you said HIS VOICE. I still think he's the best, or at least my favorite, villain the entire series has had. All I know is one of my favorite parts of Boruto was during that arc when they were fighting Deepa and Victor and Orochimaru made his big appearance. He just fucking vaporized that one chick in a fraction of a second 😂😂😍That was the most hype shit ever! I love that dude. If Kishimoto doesn't utilize Orochimaru in a big way in the future of the Boruto series I will be very disappointed and it would be a huge waste of potential. Oro is just beyond intriguing and we need more of him.
@kiravampira1456 Жыл бұрын
@terrancepemberton4648 Once again, I agree with every single word of yours :) To the producers: no matter what, just show Orochimaru more, but definitely better if he's the villain. And not just *any* villain, but the main one again, as no one else can even come close to his dark snake charm. He's actually my all-time favourite animated character and it's great to see other people also getting excited about him🐍 My theory is that he wanted to punish that random character for stealing his signature move (the kunai-licking) and not doing it properly, haha. Also, you calling him "Oro" makes me smile, as that's how my Naruto-fan friend also calls him. We even used to play Naruto characters in middle school (at that time me being terrified of Orochimaru, but also deeply fascinated and somehow attracted to him:).
@peacemaker48292 жыл бұрын
This all makes way too much sense. The color of the skin, everything you said about Mitsuki, like even the logic behind why mixed with Orochimaru's personality it all just makes so much sense. Maybe Orochimaru grafted skin from Shibai or Toneri, or maybe after Shibai transcended himself he left Orochimaru in his place kind of like a more advanced Karma mark. I mean after he's transcended he would definitely be able to create a much more advanced version of the karma mark. Either way I absolutely love this, and I think it would be awesome to see Kishimoto use these ideas in the future
@FullNGagement2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to also point out that Orochimaru's Curse Seal of Heaven looks quite similar to a 3 tomoe Sharingan
@Jolt2112 жыл бұрын
I always questioned why Curse Seal of Heaven looked like a 3 tomoe since it was his strongest seal which you could make the arguement that "oh it was because he was trying to get an uchiha as a vessel to learn further about the sharingan" but then it would be a bit confusing on why he gave the Curse Seal of Heaven to Anko. It could just be that its a coincidence that it looks like a 3 tomoe sharingan and the Curse Seal of Heaven was just the first iteration of his many curse marks.Thats my theory though ._.
@UnitedGaming420 Жыл бұрын
@@Jolt211 it's likely due to the fact they both involve a similar phrase. So it represents "heaven" or something. Similar to the way handsigns used to be similar to each other if the Justus themselves where similar.
@kingtt72132 жыл бұрын
Remember the time when we first heard about the Kara organization, we saw a scroll with a few different markings and later found out one of them was kawaki's karma designs. My theory is that some of the other designs are a clue to the two unknown otsutsuki cause a Karma has the design of its otsutsuki's horn( look at kawaki's shoulder when activates his karma and then compare it to isshiki's head. )
@thesourpatchkidd5792 жыл бұрын
To add to your theory we see Hashirama's dna being grafted onto people but his consciousness doesn't try to take over their body and neither do his cells. They do have to suppress his DNA or it will erupt like a tree and they'll lose it, but taking over someone's body is unique to Orochimaru and Otsosuki's, so there must be some reason why their dna behaves differently than everyone else's when put in the same situation.
@NoESanity2 жыл бұрын
there are two simple reasons for the. 1, Hashirama isn't a douchebag, trying to take over other peoples bodies. 2, kabuto isn't walking around half orochimaru... meaning orochimaru didn't take over his body, kabuto was a hypochondriac who wanted to grow up and be orochimaru, he needed lithium not an exorcism.
@joaquincasascortes6242 жыл бұрын
Also the fact that, just like Karma, when someone runs out of chakra, both Orochimaru and Momoshiki could take over Sasuke in Shippuden and Boruto in well Boruto
@marcramirez20932 жыл бұрын
Dude you release videos every single day. And they are good videos, I appreciate the work you put in.
@brycel.82912 жыл бұрын
Ok there was a great theory pulled from all of this that basically explains the earths story and otsutsuki. He brought up the two missing otsutsuki symbols and this has always peaked my interest. Here’s what I think it means in fuller detail. Shibai was on his conquest to keep ravaging planets for fruit, he eventually comes to earth and either performs the same or had a different realization to obtain the power he sought the only reason I say this is because our planet wasn’t destroyed, his partner who was supposed to be sacrificed if he had one or possibly it could still be that it was a solo mission since he didn’t want anyone in his way and he sacrificed himself to cultivate a new essence of being that the other otsutsuki aren’t aware is possible but let’s just say he did have a partner maybe that lineage again could be tied to orochimaru though honestly I think orochimaru is just a mutation and nothing else but now he is somewhat otsutsuki given that he stole zetsus body so that will definitely come up later in the future. Let’s get back on track, isshiki has been focusing on following shibais instructions for so long to become the ultimate otsutsuki that he finally finds his last known location Earth and he attempts what the divine tree but we know what happens kaguya desires to be free from her clan or either achieve godhood as well in the same way shibai has and steal the fruit basically both knew that earth was special even in this time period before chakra flowed through humans. Remember shibais body was likely found on earth like he said otherwise how would Amado be able to get his hands on it and yes I reasoned like you are propably right now well jigen could have found his body in a different space time and had him retrieve it but I find that highly unlikely since ishhiki is always attempting to gain power and he would use it for his own advantage and that’s not possible because amado had made eida and daemon in secret because they would be stronger than him. I kept thinking about what kaguya said in naruto, that she would protect this planet, she had her own dimensions and planets yet she valued earth so very much that she was willing to sacrifice everything else for it. That tells me that the most likely reason for this is that she was trying to achieve what shibai had after isshikis motivation and to revolt against her clan. I think the reason the stone tablets are destroyed of the previous otsutsuki is because shibai was covering his tracks, he doesn’t want anyone else possessing his power and he has clearly shown disdain for his clan given that he has not helped them in any way or form to accomplish the same which is their like whole life’s mission. He is revered by them now at this point as a myth and legend and it’s interesting that this has happened to along ago because that what the stone tablet time frame makes note of and when we do meet him I believe while he is or was selfish he is for the most part nuetral and good. He’s beyond the ideals and values of his clan. My theory is he is the reason for life on earth as well maybe he’s the reason earth is special and had sage energy running through it, the timing makes sense and earth had taken so long to find by the other otsutsuki because he had been hiding it. I believe earths space curvature was abnormal even before the events of kaguya. Lmk what you think of my theory
@brycel.82912 жыл бұрын
Btw I believe Ishhiki had spoken to Amado about him which is why in the latest chapter amado somehow knows a lot about his history. It literally makes sense that ishhiki has been following in his footsteps as well as telling code farewell with a representation of his idol shibai with all of those pure eyes to become a god. He found the planet shibai was last on but couldn’t find his body but supposed that performing the divine tree would give him the same power which is why I think shibai did something different on earth to get it because we saw the result of what eating it looked like and kaguya didn’t transform beyond a physical state thought at that point shibai had eaten likely many fruits. I still think he did something different on earth. Anyways, Amado finds his body, and keeps it sercret as well as manipulating his cells to create eida and daemon who were again made in secret. So yea it all makes sense now. My only question is how shibais body was preserved, like how?? His body has been dead for thousands and thousands of years how is that possible and how would it be possible to detect? Was it preserved in a shrine or sacrifice from old? I need more information on how his body was discovered.
@Austipawsti08 Жыл бұрын
@@brycel.8291 im sorry but do i have to read all of this?
@brycel.8291 Жыл бұрын
@@Austipawsti08 no, you have free will
@skoota772 жыл бұрын
1. Orichimaro said that he was on Sasuke's side and wanted to see his path. However what happens if Sasuke dies does Orochi go back to his old ways. 2. Was Orochi making Mitzsuki clones in attempt to make an Otsutsuki vessel for himself so he can eat a chakra fruit? Orochi mentions all the studies he did on divine tree when fighting Victor and that humans can't eat the fruit.
@georgecleaveley6060 Жыл бұрын
That is true
@technician00962 жыл бұрын
Honestly the title of this video itself was essentially enough to convince me. I mean his curse marks, his skin color, his power level. It fully makes sense even without any explanation
@isaacvale9182 жыл бұрын
I honestly believe Orochimaru is like Jugo, someone born with Senjutsu/ sage chakra. It explains his snake affinity and his innate power/skill aparent from childhood.
@darkcylander2 жыл бұрын
I hope Toneri returns at some point with his powers back, he was a really cool character
@rationallyjustified2 жыл бұрын
One thing I think that's important to bring up is that when the otsusuki showed up during the chunin exam orochimarus "clone" was about to use a "power" and one of the otsusuki took him out before he could activate it or whatever because it was too strong... so obviously there is some technique or something orochimarus figured out and imbued in mitsuki
@anarche4900 Жыл бұрын
Sage mode is super effective against otausuki
@jakstorm31808 ай бұрын
Sealing Orochimaru is the only way, but I could see Orochimaru being a huge protagonist in the very end, perhaps even the 9th Hokage
@Mangaka-Knight2 жыл бұрын
That is a very interesting theory. Now I'm really thinking about it. Also, with that being said, if Orochimaru is an Otsutsuki, then that means that Hiruzen was the first Hokage to have ever fought and saved the village from one.
@moch.farisdzulfiqar61232 жыл бұрын
and Itachi was the first Akatsuki member that beat him without breaking a sweat.
@DrWiki-po1hk2 жыл бұрын
Well, he's not, but the brain lore is fun to think about.
@fredericjuliard42612 жыл бұрын
Orochimaru : I'm licking this theory. Hmmmmm..., i mean..., i'm liking this theory.
@stevenjohnson72102 жыл бұрын
What if the Infinite Tsukuyomi was the best best-case scenario for Orochimaru? His main goal is to learn every ninjutsu. In most situations where we've seen the Infinite Tsukuyomi used those trapped in it see their "perfect scenario" in a dream-like state. Afterward, those trapped in the dream-like state can remember what happened as if it were a memory and long periods can pass by in seconds. What if he achieved his dream while trapped in the Infinite Tsukuyomi? Could he learn about lost Jutsu? Would he retain the information? What do you think?
@NoESanity2 жыл бұрын
having a dream that you studied isn't going to help you pass that test. A dream where he learns fake jutsu's in his own imagination is the antithesis of learning everything.
@vexal33932 жыл бұрын
Brah, Orochimaru is villain we shouldn't forget about, the most terrifying type of villain is those that lurk in the shadows...
@mattheller5131 Жыл бұрын
Theories: Orochimaru was a full fledged Otsutsuki who came to earth with his partner. One of them betrayed the other and through events "Maru needed to hide and in an emergency took over a child's body where through the way he took over or due to incomparability, lost his memories. Using the glasses you mentioned 'Maru will steal the Senrigan and do to his true age, will be able to see his whole past and regain his memories/powers and become the BBEG. In this version, the names on the stone wall are destroyed to help "Maru hide from others of his family. and being killed. or Orochimaru was a full fledged Otsutsuki who came to earth with his partner. One of them betrayed the other and through events "Maru was sealed into the body of a child, for 'solve for x' reason, and due to the seal or to incomparability, lost his memories. Using the glasses you mentioned 'Maru will steal the Senrigan and do to his true age, will be able to see his whole past and regain his memories/powers and become the BBEG. In this version, the names on the stone wall are destroyed to help keep 'Maru from being released from others of his family.
@NikolaGenchev-ob1yi9 ай бұрын
this got really relevant with the last chapter of buruto 2bv with them living at his hideout
@samsunglg66712 жыл бұрын
O. has all the credentials of being an Otsutsuki from implanting others' DNA into himself as if zombies were getting upgrades to being immortal and all. Also very reminiscing to all the Leaf's Missing Nins: Madara, Danzo, Obito, Sasuke, and even his own child. Looks to me like there's a strong hint that he will get his own piece dedicated for him in the franchise. (Me rubbing my hands)
@kratosorokai1546 Жыл бұрын
orochimaru being a fallen god trying to become a full god again sounds like a cool theory
@dustin38172 жыл бұрын
Man Orochimaru is my favorite character in the Narutoverse and these theories are certainly interesting, especially with Mitsuki and Toneri. Also the fact that Orochimaru no longer needs to find a new vessel due to taking over White Zetsu's body gives him all the time he would ever need to set any plans he may have in motion..
@GenesisMuzik2 жыл бұрын
I’m happy to hear someone has a respect for O. Pain and Gaara are my most relatable characters but Orochimaru is like that favorite Uncle lol
@SpammytheHedgehog2 жыл бұрын
I'm waiting for Orochimaru to meet the Otsutsuki Clan.
@rarerelent2 жыл бұрын
I think this another one of the cases where the fans think of something so cool and possible but they wont let us have it cause they didnt think of it or never heard the idea. That would be a literal chefs kiss for oroachimaru character. The fact he is thinking he needs others power and the genius he is didnt realize he was one of the most broken races. Ahh that would be so sick. Remember geniuses know alot, not everything. Man oh man that would be so cool
@Dodehak Жыл бұрын
U have some good points and stuff to make this theory viable.... and if u look at the 3 legendary, granny is only one we seem to know family history of . Pervy and snake we don't at least to my knowledge.
@shockwave98332 жыл бұрын
Weird thought I've had with Orochimaru is what if he is the key to defeating the Otsutsuki? Even if this means he can learn more and keep doing Orochimaru, Mix this with your theory it could go either way. Also another random thought is what if Boruto was the one to gain snake sage mode?
@dodinglaswadana76982 жыл бұрын
I believe he is
@shockwave9833 Жыл бұрын
Gotta add something to this because I'm getting more curious how close Boruto is to becoming a snake sage, with the new chapters that came out with mitsuki being effected by a certain someone would that kill this theory? Making Boruto closer to being able to be a full snake sage and mitsuki not being able to
@Reapzz552 жыл бұрын
This could also be why orochimaru wanted kimimaro from the kaguya clan. Perhaps he was looking for a more pure otsutsuki blood line 🤔
@user-yj4vs1xh7k2 жыл бұрын
Than he saw the reincarnation of indra, upgrades people upgrades
@Reapzz552 жыл бұрын
@@user-yj4vs1xh7k pretty much 🤣
@joshuadouglas67342 жыл бұрын
I think Orochimaru is the progenitor of the Otsutsuki via time travel shinjutsu techniques. I haven't fully pieced it together yet, but I think there is a huge Orochimaru/Amado/Otsutsuki connection that has been staring us in the face. Also, if you take the 2 greatest scientists ever who are both obsessed with very similar things, they both have major Otsutsuki features to the point many people have theorized that each are Otsutsuki. Also they each have the Otsutsuki features that the other doesn't. Only thing missing between the 2 is dojutsu.
@TheeGamingHamster2 жыл бұрын
Orochimaru: you fools, you want to know the reason I try to achieve my goals the way I do, instead of like the rest of the idiots? When you gain all the knowledge, you ascend to a different dimension, why would I do that instead of being the strongest here?
@chaselarkin87162 жыл бұрын
I’m intrigued by the idea that maybe he knew about the Kaguya lineage amongst ninjutsu using in general regardless of knowing if he’s a direct descendant, long before anyone else outside the Osutsukis, believed the more he knew about ninjutsu the closer he could be to taking on his own kama mark and becoming an Osutsuki himself
@schuttd0wn2 жыл бұрын
Imagine how pissed Orochimaru would be if he found out he was an offshoot of Shibai, making his motivations not be his own
@jamesk72562 жыл бұрын
I think it was implied Orochimaru was too weak to become a snake sage because his host body was decomposing from his body transfer technique. I don't think his original body would have had this problem.
@susear59392 жыл бұрын
The thing is Orochimaru first went to the snake sage in his original body. The great snake sage bites you and pumps in a lot of snake sage chakra. You die if you're not able to handle it. Orochimaru didn't die. Orochimaru got the ability to pull in snake sage chakra. His body just couldn't handle it. He may have ended up with an imperfect sage body. This would explain the Orochimaru form Itachi stabbed with his Totsuka blade.
@EssUchiha2 жыл бұрын
@@susear5939 this is why mitsuki has sage mode because he’s a clone or oro but mitsukis body can handle sage mode barely similar to oro that’s why he can use sage mode
@jamesk72562 жыл бұрын
@@susear5939 The Naruto wiki said multiple times that Orochimaru wasn't able to do it because of his host body decaying. I can double check their source, but I really think that's what the problem was.
@susear59392 жыл бұрын
@@jamesk7256 Orochimaru's first visit to become snake sage was in his original body. He lived but couldn't transform. Host bodies are weaker. That's why he was on a quest to find a perfect host.
@Friendly_G Жыл бұрын
Kabuto literally became a snake sage with orochimarus dna 😂
@Thato_5302 жыл бұрын
It's a great day when Nick posts a juicy theory
@tylersanto27189 ай бұрын
Orochimaru found his perfect vessel within a white zetzu, which are beings mostly comprised of the 1st hokages DNA. I truely do just think he was a greedy guy avoiding death. But i do think its weird that mitsuki knows what an otsusuki is at the chunin exams during the attack. And whats weirder is he says it like he knew they were coming. Plus orochimaru’s parents have always been a secret identity. And the resemblance between toneri and mitsuki are super weird. But mitsuki literally also refers to himself as the moon and boruto the sun. So this theory isn’t completely null and void, but its not full proof by any means.
@prestige_1232 жыл бұрын
This pitch reminds me of when the community first saw how Kawaki looked, ppl had all kinds of theories! I remember watching a video of a guy talking about how orochimaru made Kawaki from Naruto and Sasuke DNA! and he took a DEEEEP dive into his reasoning as to how this was true and he had *strong* evidence too! But turns out he was way off 😂 Although this is really interesting and it would be cool to see this go full circle again ending with Orochimaru, I just don't think that's the case, the series has moved past Orochimaru as a villain and has for quite some time, but some really good points are made in this video though!
@Axilstealspie2 жыл бұрын
the theories fans make usually make way more sense than what actually occurs lmao.
@manosdestomago2 жыл бұрын
Good job on the research and theories!! Fun stuff. Can’t wait to find out.
@MLMcNabb2 жыл бұрын
Bro fr love you for making the vids the way you do. Makes me feel part of the fandom. I’ve been screaming Orochimaru otsusuki for a while with a ton of other fans! Thanks for covering it!
@davidharshman76452 жыл бұрын
I could also see Orochimaru and Ototsuki being a case of convergent evolution...his goals are similar to the Ototsuki results/goals, so his actions/symptoms are similar to those of the Ototsuki.
@seraphyna.2 жыл бұрын
i really love the character of orochimaru - he has a nice character arc, real development thru the series, and he’s actually interesting . each relationship he has is multi-layered, from his love/hate dynamic with hiruzen to the point of death, to that similar but reversed sensei role with sasuke, to even the odd but true love he has for his son. not to exclude that he is the literal definition of an immortal, mysterious genius with undeniable strength, he is a two-time war hero & criminal simultaneously. also: that i could use “she/her” to describe orochimaru & it would neither be accurate nor inaccurate without changing the way his character is viewed somehow is a feat in itself. believe it or not, orochimaru isn’t even my favorite character-although he’s definitely not far from it. AND without orochimaru in the story from the start, the entire plot of naruto would crumble…just fascinating. 🐍
@orochimarupr2 жыл бұрын
Orochimaru having that zetsu body grant him all the knowledge from kaguyas time. He can handle sage mode a lot better than Mitsuki and kabuto
@Mech2992 жыл бұрын
Personally? I think that it makes Orochimaru infinitely less interesting if you connect him to any big clan or group. Orochimaru is the ultimate example of a nobody bringing himself up to become something incredible, someone important. I think that Orochimaru doesn't need to be an Otsutsuki, and more importantly, I think that these theories have a few holes, not the least of which when Nick mentioned young Orochimaru slapping Shin Otsutsuki's DNA onto his.
@kayurien8452 жыл бұрын
Good point, m8
@TheeBlackGuy2 жыл бұрын
the mystery surrounding orochimaru and his backstory/lineage is what makes him such an intriguing character imo. Sometimes its better to just leave things up in the air for the reader to try and piece together or theorize rather than just outright giving us an answer that probably won’t satisfy most hardcore fans.
@Imp3rdLord2 жыл бұрын
Reminder that neji was right. Birth is what matters in naruto.
@Outcastic Жыл бұрын
Orochimaru's like that meme where the crying wojak is telling him he can't do something and orochimaru is the chad just saying "no"
@xabedraper2 жыл бұрын
Orochimaru has always been my favorite. I remember playing him in the Storm games and clapping my friend over and over. Good times good times
@shauryasaurabh13642 жыл бұрын
After reading that title I thought to myself that "what in the world is going on in boruto?" but then I realised that it's a nchammer video XD
@hoopdroplooptop3602 жыл бұрын
oeochimaru and his knowledge. his ability to take over bodies and live as long as need be. he will definitely either be the madara of Boruto, or will be a key factor in the end of Boruto.
@Tonycottencandylover2 жыл бұрын
Orochimaru could make a sharingan and give it to kakashi
@B_ILL4162 жыл бұрын
I JUST BROUGHT THIS UP UNDER ONE OF YOUR OROCHIMARU VIDEOS
@B_ILL4162 жыл бұрын
AW GAVE ME AND THAT ONE GUY CREDIT FOR OUR THEORY GLAD U READ THE COMMENTS 🙏🏾🫡🤣🤣💯
@johnkiggs1082 жыл бұрын
Always thought it was interesting how orochimaru's consciousness was able to take over kabuto from just his skin, yet Hashura's didn't take over any of the thousands of bodies that had his cells.
@willdiesel84312 жыл бұрын
Orochimaru is corrupted and came to power through ill-begotten means. It should be one of the more obvious benefits since he desperately wants to endure through the ages.
@johnkiggs1082 жыл бұрын
@willdiesel8431 still doesn't explain how his consciousness can exist within a patch of his skin.
@willdiesel84312 жыл бұрын
@@johnkiggs108 how does it not when he can inhabit bodies when the time comes for his current body to reject him? His DNA probably resided in Anko longer than anyone else and he knew of everything when his entire body was released from the curse mark he left on her. A mere part of him having the consciousness isn't 'remarkably' uncommon for him.
@johnkiggs1082 жыл бұрын
@willdiesel8431 because doing it through those very specific practices require specific means. Otherwise, why wouldn't he just graft a chunk of skin onto every child he abducted? Sounds a lot easier than wasting his guinea pigs that could be used for other experiments. With the body swap, he has to wait 3 years and even then, it isn't a guarantee he can win the mind battle. With the curse mark, it only succeeds on 1/10 people. It would just make way more sense to plop skin on some random than to go through all the processes of the other methods to pass his consciousness
@willdiesel84312 жыл бұрын
@@johnkiggs108 I'm guessing the reason it's not done in that manner is because he wants to practice some form of autonomy on both ends. He lost interest in Anko but she has the curse mark forever. No amount of body modification will change that. Kabuto went mad when he grafted the skin to himself WILLINGLY. Imagine what would happen if there was zero choice in the matter. It's much easier to counter act the DNA with the medical advancements in the present day and time within the story.
@Just_Kanji Жыл бұрын
18:52. Ahh yes. Mitsuki is fighting Kawaki. :)
@_.violyse._ Жыл бұрын
huh? why would Mitsuki ever fight Kawaki Uzamaki? this guy doesn't know what he's taking about, smh my head.
@Just_Kanji Жыл бұрын
@@_.violyse._ I don’t think you got my sarcasm.
@batman-37johnson Жыл бұрын
I do! 🤣
@_.violyse._ Жыл бұрын
@@Just_Kanji I don't think you got mine 💀💀
@Just_Kanji Жыл бұрын
@@_.violyse._ yeah I was kind of thinking that…😂😭
@Josephextreme Жыл бұрын
Please give orochimaru a huge role as the final villain in Boruto. PLEASE
@Rei_0_2 жыл бұрын
imagine lord jashin is one of the otsutsuki and the other is like orochimaru's ancestors
@andrewnorman31632 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of Orochimaru being an otsutsuki but why would his body not be able to handle snake sage mode.
@fademeansfaded2 жыл бұрын
Because he abandoned his original body so he can't do snake sage mode
@orochimarupr2 жыл бұрын
People dont know anything about oro, he has a zetsu body so he would handle sage a lot easier
@trafalgard.187 Жыл бұрын
Things i want to see in boruto: Rock lee opening eight Gates (and dying, unlike Guy) Orochimaru going all out to protect Konoha and sacrifice himself
@orochimarupr Жыл бұрын
@@trafalgard.187 Facts, ive been saying that for awhile. We still haven't seen those 2 at full power
@trafalgard.187 Жыл бұрын
@@orochimarupr yeh i hope the authors wont miss this opportunity
@cawix7014 Жыл бұрын
Then Kabuto, who has Orochimaru cells inside his body, is also an incomplete Otsutsuki
@SpammytheHedgehog2 жыл бұрын
I'm waiting for Orochimaru to get his hands on a chakra fruit.
@biggameboy2 жыл бұрын
This is one of those videos where you see the title, and go "I think I know where Nick is going to go on this one"
@metrolining2 жыл бұрын
Nick's iq is Shikamaru level in Naruto knowledge
@mittalarnav6842 жыл бұрын
When you say that mitsuki is obsessed with moon. There is one more thing that in anime they show that boruto is mitsuki's moon or mitsuki consider boruto like his moon and according to a theory boruto is a kind of son of hinata and temari. This all is somewhat related
@patrol2omega2 жыл бұрын
During Shippuden I remember telling my friends: Orochimaru will be the final boss, the true villain. No matter what happened later on with Kaguya and Madara, I believe he's still planning things out after all the knowledge learned
@ahsenwaseem32632 жыл бұрын
Orochimaru created the Otsusuki and Amado for fun
@teamkaioken67592 жыл бұрын
SEEEEEEE!!!!!!! This is exactly why I want you to switch your vote. First off I’ll say I love this video. You just threw some very interesting theory’s about the best villain in the franchise. Don’t get me wrong I like minato a lot like my 3rd favorite but he don’t hold a candle to orchimaru. No one comes even close. Orchimaru needs his story told past present and future. Even if you don’t change your vote thank you for this video because I know many of the fandom and your viewers are way more excited my orchimaru now. I never put 2 and 2 together about the white skin but you just blew my mind. And the whole theory with kimimaru was just fantastic along with showing the similarities between mitski and tonari. My hats off to you sir you nailed this video.
@spliffsforbreakfast Жыл бұрын
Having a source of limitless clones does essentially give Orochimaru plenty of bodies to live forever. I definitely think he’s just trying to create the perfect vessel.
@say6hows72 жыл бұрын
Also, can we talk about the fact that he basically developed the same kind of mark that implants itself on someone’s body and allows him to eventually take over their body if he dies. Like he basically develop the exact process, they use to survive after death.
@grimgolum6068 Жыл бұрын
Also his tomoe earring reminds every otsutsuki wardrobe decorations...these are tomoes too...
@eriklawrence2530 Жыл бұрын
Orochimaru is the personification of Taoism in the naruto world,the yin yang symbol is constantly referenced with him
@donthousand32962 жыл бұрын
Orochimaru really had a kid without Toneri's consent
@STREY342 жыл бұрын
Orochimaru obtaining Kimamarus Kaguya blood would have ended the series early
@yadielpena45542 жыл бұрын
25:19 What about Sai ?? 😄😂
@Oz14552 жыл бұрын
I didn't think of it this way, but I do feel it's not farfetched he'll return at some point, kind of like they did with Frieza in the latest DBS chapters.
@Thehellskid Жыл бұрын
This would make so much sense which meaning jariya knew the whole time about orochimaru plan
@wolfstorm539411 ай бұрын
For years I've been asking the question why does Orochimaru have pale skin and snake eyes, at first i thought he probably fused with some sort of snake later on in life, until i saw flashback episodes of when he was a kid, and the question came back, if he had this appearance since he was a kid, then why? What did his parents look like.
@metrostatistics98072 жыл бұрын
My personal head cannon is that he is a hybrid of some level and is at least vaguely aware of it, he just doesn't care unless it helps with his research and over the years he basically became a toxic otaku that didn't care what lines he had to cross so long as he got his information. Then after he mellowed out he realized he previous methods weren't the most efficient in the long run and is now pursuing knowledge simply for the sake of it regardless of how strong the technique actually is.
@arcguardian Жыл бұрын
He's no alien, just a badass.
@athenabaker94302 жыл бұрын
Mitsuki actually looks like he has Kabuto's DNA as well, which would make sense since Kabuto had grafted Orochimaru onto himself., and part of the "resurrection" of Orochimaru involved flesh from Kabuto. Though Orochimaru abandoned that body to enter into Tsetzu, it seems Orochimaru tends to carry alot of the acquired DNA from his previous hosts with him during his body switches. As I recall, Mitsuki also has limited medical ninjutsu. With them keeping the same pattern with the teams, though changing up the characters with it in this team (boruto being the Sasuke/ Orochimaru type character, Sarada being the "hokage" character ect.) I could see Mitsuki becoming the medical nin of the team, between having Orochimaru as his parent and all the medical/scientist knowledge that goes with that. I wouldn't be surprised to find out there is still some loose connection between Orochimaru and Kabuto. As for Orochimaru being an Otsatsuki, they travel in pairs...so one would think the Otsatsuki God had a partner. It is possible that that partner was abandoned when he assended and was trapped on their world, possibly founding a snake clan with a snake sage which ended up producing Orochimaru, and said clan was wiped out like so many other OP clans like Uzumaki and others, hence leaving Orochimaru an orphan. It is possible that he suffered something similar to what Sasuke did, in seeing not only his family wiped out, but his entire clan.
@alexw7629 Жыл бұрын
I feel like this could be true, the things orochimaru has done is so similar, also remember when orochimaru said to Mitsuki that he’s been male female and even something out of this world, also when momoshiki and kinshiki appear in the anime mitsuki sees them and says “otsutsuki” as if orochimaru might of told him about them
@luckyguner50032 жыл бұрын
Could you do a video ranking and explaining all nature releases or ranking top 10 lightning jutsu
@ggjb18922 жыл бұрын
I put all of these pieces together almost over a year ago I’m glad someone with a platform agrees and says it out loud 😂🤝
@Tobi-mp2ds2 жыл бұрын
Same!!!!
@deityjc Жыл бұрын
I always found Orochimaru's alignment shift in Boruto to be uncharacteristic, especially with the knowledge about the Otsutsuki being revealed at the end of Shippuden. He's not the kind of person to just ignore literal celestial beings (or at least not make studying them a top priority). It'd make sense if he was actually looking into becoming an Otsutsuki and playing nice with the Leaf to throw some suspicion off of him.
@worstgenerationrecords2 жыл бұрын
Mitsuki being effected by Eida power debunks those Otsutsuki theories
@ryigen832 жыл бұрын
I almost got canceled before it was a thing saying the same thing. As soon as info on kaguya and her people grew it's kinda obvious but people hate him so much it's like they dont want him to be that guy. I do he my favorite. I APPRECIATE YOU FOR MAKING THIS VIDEO. you explain it in such detail. This amazing.
@PumaPants2482 жыл бұрын
Otsotsuki or not, if Orochimaru was able to perfect a snake sage mode he solos the entire verse
@effingwrecked19172 жыл бұрын
No. Sasuke would’ve put him in a izanami. Itachi jutsu!
@sociedadesecretadosviloes2 жыл бұрын
about the cursed mark i think its wrong because the mark was made based on juugo skill