Ortgies 32 ACP Pistol Mouse Gun Review

[@johnroseman9087]

Just received one yesterday from my friend. Her father passed away and wanted me to look at it.So grateful for your help. It's blued.

[@UncleDonDon]

A well-built pocket gun almost 100 yrs old. Tons of sentimental value for me. My grandfather brought one of these back from Europe while in the Navy in the 50's. He traded a guy for a carton of cigarettes. It got handed down and I disassembled and cleaned it. Nice little shooter that will never leave my family. I would like to find an additional mag, though. Perfect nightstand gun because it can be operated blind. I don't know anyone who wants to get hit with a .32auto. I've never seen one polished/plated. I think that's an afterthought. I would assume that's why your pin is walking up while shooting.

[@audiehollon4292]

Your reviews of the vintage firearms are my favorites.

[@Emil-ul4kb]

.32 acp is excellent for carry/home defense. I have a Bersa Thunder .32 acp and also a Kel Tec P-32. You can put 2 or 3 fast shots in center mass with the low recoil of .32 acp.

[@JamesZ-py1xl]

I found one for $410 at my local mom and pop gun store and I'm going to buy it! I freaking fell in love with it when I held it in my hand and going back 2mrw to get it first thing in the morning! I'm so excited!

[@MrPrimitiveman]

Great posting! I bought one of these back about 1985 or so. Mine has some unique marking. I have put a few hundred rounds through it. Only time I had a problem is if I didn't grip it firmly. Amazingly accurate. Thanks for the great video!

[@getx1265]

I have my grandfather's (died in 1956) that he carried as a US postal worker back in the 20s-30s. Nice little gun and well made. Nice review. Thx!

[@billpohlman803]

Appreciate your history research. It was my pistol of choice as a boy. The Germans loved their .32's and didn't turn them in after WW11 like the British did with their pistols. The Germans were a nation of "pistoleroes" during WW11.. Beautiful pistol!

[@DAVIDTORRESANI]

I love my 32 Ortgies pistol. I'll cherish this gun till old and grey. My grandfather gifted me this Great pistol.

[@thetobaccoguy1751]

I've really fallen in love with the .32 acp cartridge. It's a prime candidate for bullet casting. Very accurate little cartridge.

[@frankbaker9117]

Love mine, pretty acurate for what is , well made, being German. In origin I. Wouldn't expect anything less.

[@billpohlman4014]

sootch--You are the "mouser"..Excellent job on the research, etc. This pistol was my 1st love; the ergonomics was perfect. My generations saw "bring backs" from ww11 vets and being inquisitive boys we knew where our fathers squirreled away these momentoes. I've never seen one in nickel or chrome and yours looks to be perfect! Again, I appreciate your research and excellent review!

[@Struwelpeter62]

I had to have my "sootch" fix today so I checked this video out. I love the way you explain firearms inner workings and functions as well as the history behind them - which makes your videos my go to source for firearms related info. Thanks for the video and long live the "sootch" Republic !

[@undertaker4518]

dude love your reviews especially the bloopers. shows your a real person not just a perfect robot like some of these guys. your one of the good guys!!!

[@tomcat6487]

Hey Sootch, the barrel will come off, you have to pull it sideways, not twist it for it to come off. I had one also it took me a little bit to figure it out, hope this helps,

[@476429]

Love .32 ACP! Thanks for reviewing these classic guns.

[@ActiveNorte916]

Dwarf?

[@476429]

@@ActiveNorte916 Elf?

[@ActiveNorte916]

@@476429 yes from the woodland relm

[@GR46404]

Forty-odd years ago, a first-rate gunsmith named J. B. Wood wrote an excellent book titled "Troubleshooting Your Handgun". It has a very good account of the design flaws (weak firing pin, delicate disconnector, poor grip retention, etc.) You can probably get it cheap on Amazon or Ebay or ABEbooks, and learn a lot about many other guns too.

[@Oldtimecarpenter]

Thanks for another "well done " video and sharing a little piece of history! Very much appreciated!!!

[@mnguy98]

My aunt just gave me my grandpa's old Ortgies .32. Very interesting little pistol.

[@franks9549]

Love your reviews - wholeheartedly believe in them and sincerity and knowledge. Cool bloopers at the end were a nice touch. Keep up the great work man - thumbs up. Go Air Force and God Bless America ALWAYS.

[@rang123yea5]

I have all three. .25, .32 .380 I can say at least 1500 collectively between all three not on failure or jam. I love them fun little toys.

[@colin1818]

These were produced in the Weimar Republic between the world wars. Since Germany was being punished for WWI they essentially got shut down and were forced to dump large quantities of their existing stock on the import market. Apparently about 48,000 were sold to the United States for $0.66 a gun in the early 1920s. Even with inflation that's less than $13 a gun in today's money. There was a second smaller batch (of unknown quantity) that were also sold to America for $0.75 a gun. Most of what you find over in the Americas are from these two groups. The pistol was very popular in Germany though despite only being produced for about 5 years. Hitler apparently gave one to Eva Braun.

[@Dietzeeeee]

Love the mouse gun series. Although polymer single stacks seem to dominate the CCW market right now it is really cool to see the older designs.

[@johnpagdilao6075]

I really enjoy the mouse gun series, the diversity of weapons and history to go with them. Thank you sir for all the fantastic videos. Thumbs way up. 👍

[@glockerbob]

Love the looks of this gun. Had the one with oh on grip a long time ago. Really cool series brother.

[@bigbadfnmonkey]

My middle daughter loves to shoot, and wanted a purse gun for CCW. Only problem...she cant deal with heavy recoil(bad flinch). After trying maybe 30 different guns from my safe, she really loved a full size 38 spec.(too big for her CCW), and a 32.acp(just right size). I gave her an S&W mod. 15 in 4 inch for the range and home defense, and a slick lil Seecamp in 32.acp. The 32. was a big hit, and sumpin she practices with alot, which you really gotta do with your carrygun. Always a slick vid, brother Sootch, best to you n yours, MIKE.

[@mattmarzula]

Michael McGee After "purse gun" all I heard were excuses. Ask yourself what is the first thing someone is going to take from your daughter? Her purse. Now, they have her gun along with her bank and credit cards. Shouldn't be too long before they come to get the PIN's and shoot her with her own gun. Take self defense more seriously and shoot that flinch away.

[@FarrisMayo]

The barrel actually turns to the left when looking down on the pistol and comes right out. I'm not sure if you knew that, the twisting motion you did in the video didn't seem like you did I just wanted to inform you otherwise! Great video I love mine, I have been having a hard time finding decent magazines for it though even on gun broker.

[@jjones9143]

Man my buddy found one of these in his grandparents attic under a board when they passed away. Sold it to me for 80 bucks. It was missing the magazine. Got a cheap remake. It worked but didn't go in smoothly. I ended up selling it later on for 250. I really wish I hadn't of sold it. Great video btw.

[@mikedee6173]

I really enjoy your reviews of mouse guns!

[@joshbar6704]

love the mouse gun reviews keep up the good work😃👍

[@smartacus88]

I think that has the most interesting saftey setup of any pistol I've ever seen.

[@DAVIDTORRESANI]

@Smartacus88 I agree. I love my safety button and pushing it in. I use my thumb more so Palm. But it is my favorite feature. Get one

[@13BravoBiggunsM110SP]

Like the 32 acp and the 25 acp in these pistols, almost bought them in this caliber, have seen them in other options but I like the 25 and 32 ,, wish I would have bought them back in the late 80s and early 90s not seen them in the nickel, but have in the blue and dull nickel,25 and 32 are excellent caliber pistols for back up and a pocket carry, I carried those caliber pistols for back up and in a spare handcuff case when I was in law enforcement in the 80s also carried a charter arms in 38 special sometimes and two spare 5 shot speed loaders,, also i like charter arms pistol , they were a favorite EDC off duty, had a 44 spl and a 357 magnum, , but had to sell them when I was moving to a different part of the state ☹️

[@Tbone42tx]

love that...i want it!!! love 25acp's and 32's

[@JTrientaYOcho]

Tony Tyler same here. Tired of people saying the smaller calibers are anemic.

[@gcart7675]

@@JTrientaYOcho they are compared to other rounds and if theyre on drugs or something like that you definately want quite a bigger caliber than them for self defense

[@HillbillyNitroUSA]

Interesting little pistol. I really like the mouse gun series of videos. Great job Sootch! 👍

[@sootch00]

Thanks- it's been fun

[@henricvs]

How funny! I have this same pistol, albeit in blue. I thought I was the only one who bought one. They are a very interesting pistol. Great review.

[@SCVGun]

I have a blued one in .32 acp. I bouggt mine many years ago for less than $80 from what I remember. What I find interesting is that most of the old defensive pistols are in weaker cartridges than what we would consider adequate, such as .32acp, .32 S&W, .38 S&W, maybe.380. And, they didn't have "good" bullets, but fmj and round nose lead. I wonder sometimes if we're not over powering them.

[@NyxJinxxx]

I own a 1919 32 ACP Ortgies

[@drmaudio]

That is a very classic looking pistol. It just screams 1920's.

[@USMC--me3ig]

Looks like a browning design... Neat gun

[@chrisloUSA]

You should also look into the FN 1910/22, another striker fired 32 ACP from Europe and the same era. They made far more of them too, so they're generally cheaper.

[@ctapmgriley]

Really, really, really, really . . . . like your videos. Keep up the good work!

[@danielboydcooper6850]

in this season of politics i've been watching videos that have made my blood boil, i want to thank you for bringing me back to the fun of youtube. i will never own a mouse gun (maybe a .22lr) but i loved this video.

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[@danielboydcooper6850]

joe batters good one joe

[@CrashandTrash596]

Excellent review, as always. If I had to carry this thing I would grind the sights off it. Who ever you shoot with that .32 is going to jam it where the sun don't shine.

[@cavalrymajor]

If u depress the guide rod from the striker spring into the notch thats machined for it, you ll have an easier time and wont need to use a tool to get the striker depressed passed the slide n safety. I have a 7.65m/m Ortgies with a waffenamt stamp from the 3rd Reich

[@11e40r8]

Just a historical note on this weapon, it was one of It was John Dillinger's favorite guns!😅

[@Pappy_1775]

You rotate the barrel 90 degrees (make it look like the letter T) on the round dovetail that is under the barrel. Take a look at Forgotten Weapons Ortgies video to see how it is done.

[@frederickhuicochea46]

Sootch, I hope you can answer this question. In your presentation here you stated the .32 barrel can be removed and replaced with a .380 barrel and the orig. .32 magazine can be used for the .380 round. Is that right? My real question here is can the same be done with the .25 to bump it up to a .32 also using the orig. .25 magazine? Hope to hear from you on this.

[@1970HondaCL100]

It cannot. The .25 has a smaller frame than the .32/.380 which share the same frame.

[@rang123yea5]

No only the .32 and .380 have the interchangeablity

[@00Klingon]

Wow that really looks like a Browning designed FN 1910. The safety mechanism works different although it looks very close.

[@gwidwock]

You sure know your Ortgies. I have three of these. One in 25, 32 & 380. Two I picked up at auction and one on GunBroker. All in blue and all in 95-98%. Love the style. I have a document on the factory and I believe it burnt down in 1924 or 26. Thanks for the video.

[@OldManMontgomery]

Nice pistol. Somehow I have two, an Ortgies and a Deutche Werke. I suggest the nickel finish is not original. The left side slide address shows a bit of 'dishing out' from the polishing and the proof mark on the right side of the receiver shows even worse. As you said, whoever did the polish and refinish work was quite good.

[@GunCollector007]

Similar to the FN1922. Beautiful gun.

[@mattmarzula]

All of those extractor pins seem to work loose. So common to that pistol. My sights? Spot on at 10 yards. Amazing accuracy.

[@FalconXit]

Lehigh defense has developed a little solid copper round for .32 cal that looks interesting. 32 Auto 50gr Xtreme Cavitator Ammunition.. 13 inches of penetration and over a inch of disruption from a meek .32 cal 50 gr. slug.

[@toomanyaccounts]

it looks like it can be loaded in an old gun since hollowpoint 32s often don't work with a lot of old semi autos.

[@FalconXit]

And it seems to function extremely well at only 700 fps. A benefit for older models like the Tomcat that can't take today's +P ammo.

[@martinkavanagh196]

That loose pin - Try just giving the pin a sideways tap to slightly bend it - that should tighten-up its fit.

[@danielm7585]

I bought a used matched set of those in 1974 w/ a military double flap holster gun belt w/ the shoulder strap, in .25 auto nickle w/ pearl grips. I paid $75. I wish I still had them. I always thought they were Russian.

[@dobypilgrim6160]

There was a test done in France in the 1970s using live goats as the "victims". The .32 ACP actually outperformed the .380 when using the FMJ ammunition of the time. Penetration was better I guess. I think they killed something like 1000 goats. PETA would have a fit nowadays. It's amazing that so many European police forces used .32s up until the 1980s. I sometimes carry a Savage M1907even now just for "fun" when knocking around in the desert. I may have to get an Ortgies after this, since my all time favorite gun maker is Ludwig Loewe/DWM.

[@CoolGuyThings]

Hi Sootch00, Great review as always. I have one of these in nickel as well. I'd like to send you some pics if possible. I believe I read that Dillinger was carrying one of these the night he was killed outside the Biograph in Chicago.

[@11aston11]

Dillinger was carrying a Colt M1908 Pocket Hammerless in 380 APC. It was his preferred firearm when he traveled in public as it obviously fit in his pocket and was easily drawn when needed. Bonnie Parker busted Clyde out of jail by hiding a similar colt taped under her dress between her legs.

[@zerovalon6243]

this is a interesting pistol its one of the first I ever shot

[@454pakr]

Love dem mousers!

[@kevinbaker6168]

Not as desired a pistol as the Walther PP/PPK, or the Mauser HSC, but still looks like a nice little pistol, and would be very serviceable.

[@Coltgov191145]

that barrel is an a circular dovetail. you grasp the barrel and turn it along the vertical axis 90 degrees and it will come off

[@stonewalljackson6168]

Is this effective on truck hoods?

[@nlesiak3]

lol "ooohhh snap..."

[@sootch00]

+Theodore Probably not : )

[@jamesamescua8647]

Lol.

[@PennsyltuckyBubba]

Doh!!!

[@RJM1011]

Nice looking .32 thank you for the video.

[@DougKlueh]

Have you had any issues with the firearm going into battery with a round being stripped from the mag to the chamber? I replaced the firing pin, since the OG one was broken. Any help would be greatly apprecitated.

[@robstegura3134]

very cool thanx for sharing this

[@geraldsloan9808]

your ortgies knowledge has wow me over. the barrel twists out sideways, like a faucet lever, not around and around. The back of the receiver has a notch to retain the firing pin and spring, for reassembly. Please, read a take down book before hand.

[@b.griffin317]

Nice little fun gun. Must have been imported before 1968. Can't see that thing surviving GCA.

[@starboy3735]

Dont push the firing pin in like this, there is a groove in the top of the slide that you can compress the firing pin spring and set the metal guide rod into when reassembling the pistol

[@DavidMN-]

The woody grips look great ;)

[@Acemate352]

Nice design, retro. If only turkish manuf would consider cloning the model in .380. Definitely would add to collection.

[@johnniecameron8829]

I carry a 40 but I would carry a 32 .there cool and there bullets flying out the end

[@shadowwolf7622]

I had one of these. Wish I would have kept it. It was a nice gun. I've carried and used several 32's over the years. Used them on the farm for varmit and pest control. Believe me, the 32 auto is very underrated by many. 32 revolvers are nice too. I've never had a problem with either, autos or revolvers. I've Dropped big beef and hogs with them. I know they will work for defense against 2 leg critters.

[@skylerphoenix8880]

Sootch00 -- So what's your top recommendation between: Ortgies vs Armi Galesi 32acp? Would your recommendation be different for .25 vs .32? How does your recommendation change when put up against the Colt 1903 .32?

[@Harleysandguns]

don I just got one of these last week I also need grips missing the left side did you sell the old grips? my mouse gun collecting is getting larger

[@NelsonReyesJr]

It looks just like my Colt .32 auto from the same era.

[@alvaroasi]

I am not an expert... but I think that the 9mm "parabelum" es the sort, kurtz, or corto; because there was a 9mm "long" or "largo" that have a case several mm longer. Old people in Spain say: "9mm corto" and "9mm largo". I don´t know in other countries.

[@stevehellerud9480]

Cool gun! Sleek and simple. Now....I want one. 😒😒😑

[@_cru8368]

Assuming same "grade", how do these compare quality-wise to Galesi?

[@Jodyrides]

You didn’t show that the barrel rotates 90° when you have slide off to remove the barrel, like putting a key in a lock and turning it a quarter turn..

[@retiredafce3373]

Sootch, can you review a Colt Wiley Clapp 1911?

[@sgtwright14]

Hey Sootch, I was curious do you have any plans on doing a mouse gun video on the Savage 32 Auto pistols?

[@sootch00]

If I come across one in good shape I will. Too many guns and not enough funds : ) Thanks

[@sgtwright14]

I know the struggle believe me sir

[@danielross5292]

Wished Us Australia's can get Firearms like That!

[@AmericanCoinHunting]

I Really really like that pistol . I bet Nickel finnish is originol too .

[@HumanN8ture]

Great video! .......Really!

[@CoyotePathkiller1998]

I bought mine for 200 from my dad i have the one with marking on both sides of the slide, mine is like this one here but with black grips

[@diegofernandodiazsaldarria7074]

Hola saludos de Cali Colombia,buen video de estas lindas pistolas m encanta las pistolas ok

[@brasileiro5493]

very good

[@zonseeker08]

That .32 is almost a size match for the Springfield XDs .45

[@benthere422]

WOW, cool pistol! Great design, excepting the firing pin thing. Imagine; polymer frame, double stack mag, that grip safety. Using modern personal defense ammo, nice carry piece. But I'm dreaming.

[@Bowhunter3651]

Have the 32acp model. Anyone know of good IWB or OWB holster? Mine had weak firing pin, easy fix and very accurate!

[@doctoreff1]

Spicy!

[@rayhanes1347]

That thing fired well. This is a decent grandma gun, better then nothing.

[@sunso1991]

really wish it came in .22LR

[@l.a.schiereck5696]

Supposedly John Dillinger carried one, presumably in .32, Wikipedia's Ortgies entry has the reference. Bet it was nickel-plated...hmm... see if you can dream-chat w. Dillinger and ask him the serial no.

[@brettmitchell2318]

i love these pistols. My local gun shop has a mint one in 25 acp. They want just over 300 for it... strongly considering it. It has the stylized D on the grip so its the older model. Good investment / range toy? @sootch00

[@toomanyaccounts]

the h is the older one. stylized cat d is the newer grips.

[@mozzberg590]

Still waiting on mouse gun revolvers sir.

[@garyhowell6261]

Didn't the 32acp the caliber of our WW2 officers pistols? (The thought being suicide preferred over risking interogation.)

[@toomanyaccounts]

32 acp was used and still used in certain machine guns. it kills people. most handguns that were full size for an officer would be 9mm or 45 acp for American.

[@Gamberbro237]

It's weak, flashy, and retro; the side arm of choice for hipsters

[@Gamberbro237]

Well obviously no one likes to get shot but I'd rather take a few 32's than a few 45s.

[@sergeantbigmac]

Im not sure the 'Hipster' moniker applys so much to firearms because there are some people who genuinely just like older firearms.

[@trishooty4513]

+The Exile I liked old pistols before it was cool... *donned fedora*

[@MaxMinXX]

Hahaha! That's a good one.

[@cdshull]

No, it's not a RoboCop ugly Glock.

[@marcoantoniocacereslimpias8558]

Que balas le emtra a esa pistola

[@BoozMcGroove]

.32 ACP

[@shelltech83]

looks just like a Fn / Browning M1922

[@marcoantoniocacereslimpias8558]

Que balas le entra ala auto

[@merlemorrison482]

chrome or nickel?

[@MaxwellAerialPhotography]

he says nickel in the video

[@merlemorrison482]

+classicMaxReviews I got that, but he was also a bit uncertain if that was the original factory finish. That being the case, either one could apply.