Orthodoxy, Fordhamites, and Homosexuality: My Conversation with Fr. Peter Heers

[@haignahabed]

Please pray for us here in Greece at this difficult time

[@CarlylePhelps]

Homosexual affirmation is to Christianity as what abortion is to healthcare.

[@TranslatedAssumption]

Terrific analogy

[@aaronwolf4211]

Public Orthodoxy exposes itself for what it is through its tagline - “Bridging the Ecclesial, the Academic, and the Political”. These aren’t atomized disciplines to be “bridged”. There is ONLY the Church, and anything “academic” or “political” should come out of the Church or be filtered through Her. The Church isn’t just one of many “areas of life”. She IS life! Anyone trying to bring academics, scholars, politicians, and activists into the realm of the Church and place them at the same level as clergy should be kept at arm’s length and viewed with suspicion.

[@elenav.4355]

Thank you, Jospeh. Fr. Peter is a treasure trove of patristic knowledge. Great conversation.

[@goydivision5311]

Thank you Joseph and Peter always quality and uplifting content. Bless you both too.

[@mariaugarte6785]

Thank you Joseph!

[@Cyrus_II]

This priest in that panel kept saying "who they are" when referring to homosexual people and their desire.This is an upside down way of seeing reality. Your identity is supposed to curb, cut off, or align your desires; Your identity isn't defined by your desires. Your desires aren't supposed to define your identity.

[@Christianity_and_Perennialism]

Interesting channel, and so relevant to everything that’s going on today. I was born and raised Roman Catholic and the current situation breaks my heart but honestly, from what I saw growing up Catholic in New York in the ‘80s and ‘90s, it sadly doesn’t surprise me. It has been in the making for decades, from both the clergy and laity.

[@adamnice-kj9bo]

Thank you both for this important and truly loving message.

[@tompalm64]

Fr. Peter was excellent! The truth cannot change. It’s very sad that Fr. Matin has had so much influence within the Catholic Church. Look at the African Church and its reaction to the recent Vatican document . I for one remain Catholic and follow the true teachings of the Church and of the Saints and the Apostles.

[@pah9730]

Teachings alone, without communion, without being with, and following in word and deed, in time and in space, the Saints, do not save/transfigure us. The path to salvation today is very narrow. The problem is not just the extreme sicknesses like discussed about in this video, but the older more fundamentally innovations that were rejected by the Fathers - such as the filioque and papal supremacy.

[@countryboyred]

You can’t follow the teachings of the Church when you aren’t in the Church. Rome left the Church a millennium ago.

[@josephjude1290]

Great commentary as always Joseph

[@mariaugarte6785]

I am sure Saint Paul forgot to put a footnote in his letters especially for fr Martin😁

[@EOShorts]

Lord have mercy. Thank you gentlemen 🤍

[@Xeniathefool-11]

I watched a “debate” video featuring the Fordham panel. The priest actually said Christ acted or essentially was a kind of queer because he turned things upside down. I’m quoting but that the general sense. I was very shocked that he was using that to support a more accepting stance.

[@Xeniathefool-11]

…And one of women on the same debate panel alluded to the idea that monks in close quarters likely practiced homosexuality- without any proof of such activity.

[@miastupid7911]

And Christ said: "Go ye therefore and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,and teaching them to obey everything that I have commanded you. And remember, I am with you always, even to the end of the world"

[@MachoMaamRandallSandwich]

An eternal struggle between those who have the capacity for self-reflection, and narcissists.

[@stevanstevan763]

Hi Joseph would you ever be interested in Interviewing Father Abbot Arseny Jovanovich? He wrote this book Titled God and Rock and roll. It would be interesting person

[@TranslatedAssumption]

5 years after I converted to Catholicism I looked into becoming a secular priest. I dodged a major bullet that would have been disastrous for me in the long run. I have been astounded by how many people I know that have gone to seminary or even went the full course and were ordained to the priesthood in Catholicism, only to discover certain things and then they got away from it as fast as they could. I know that I did not find out as much about certain things as others have but I also think that I'm better off for not knowing too much, I am already scandalized enough by what I do know through my experiences in Catholicism in a well known uniate ecumenist religious community.

[@orthodoxboomergrandma3561]

Sin is not “going away” bu any other means than admitting it’s sin and repenting of it continually

[@traceyedson9652]

And sometimes God allows us failures for humility’s sake.

[@retxedjr]

Thank you for speaking boldness on this Topic Father Heers and Joseph. I was listening to this while driving and I have to say that priest sounds like a homosexual.

[@user-nj7lt7mu1x]

Excellent talk! We need you both on the Greek TV newsrooms to provide straight answers to the public because the hierarchy that are being interviewed are sowing confusion making them canon fodder for the media. They are making all kinds of proclamations without backing up their claims (the cancer issue correlation). They are fumbling their way that is not convincing the masses because they have never been prepared to respond to this issue in a secular world.

[@Bros60]

Courage only does one thing. They maintain the behavior. They never talk about getting out of the lifestyle.

[@charlesnunno8377]

I love your content Joseph, and I have huge sympathy and respect for you, and believe your life story. I have to impose a non-religious explanation for why I think it is "better" in Orthodoxy: In Orthodoxy most Priests are married. This creates a situation where the wife controls the man's economic functions, and it creates a sub-bubble which is homosexual-excluding by virtue of the fact, that it is not a "caste" in which homosexuals can have an "easy job" with "privileges." A place to hide. It's a place for straight men who are excluded from other options to hide instead. ( They would be "losers" forced to work hard and work fair like any normal straight man otherwise.....but less likely to be "Gay." ) Furthermore, as a 4th point, the Bishops are strictly selected from the Monk "caste." This creates further exclusion from authority and privilege. Which is very accidentally "wise." Because the ONLY WAY a normal man, especially in the age of the internet, can EVER be truly chaste and celibate IS PREICSELY and ONLY by total separation from all sexual temptation. Thus, even if a homosexual DOES MAKE IT TO THE TOP of their system, they will be few in number, and you will get a situation where at least 70% or more of men will be more or less "normal" even at its worst. In my explanation, as someone, who does not want to destroy your Faith, but cannot share it, this is the most parsimonious explanation ( cynical if you like ) for why Orthodoxy is "BETTER." ( Removing or destroying these 4 systemic decisions that they evolved over time, would DESTROY the Orthodox church, even more than the cunning introduction of the Gregorian dates, which that Greek Masonic "CIA" Bishop introduced to split you from the old Calendarists. )

[@downinthecypressswamp2234]

Thank you Joseph. We really need folks like you to be used by the Lord to hold back the alphabet onslaught. If you could, please reach out to other online apologists to get a platform. I support you 100 percent. God Bless!

[@maryjaxheimer6050]

Fr.Peter and Joseph… I can’t believe that we are discussing this… it is by no means a homosexual relationship is acceptable. Didn’t St John Chrysostom address this topic? They need to teach repentance and to deal with this unnatural behavior and repent and ask for forgiveness for thinking and acting on unnatural acts. May God forgive us that this is going on in our world.✝️🙏🥲🇺🇸🇬🇷

[@stevelenores5637]

By definition if it's not Orthodox than it's heterodox. Gay affirmation is by definition heterodox.

[@premodernprejudices3027]

Rev. Dr. Harry Pappas is a priest in the GOArch, with a PhD in Old Testament from Harvard (which he loves to remind people of). I've met him, having known his daughter and son-in-law, who were fellow parishioners in a church in New England. Very liberal people. He's a thoroughly unlikeable character.

[@traceyedson9652]

Whatever the case may be re: his thoughts & relationship to the Truth, likability is subjective & irrelevant.

[@orthodoxboomergrandma3561]

The church better not “listen.” We, I need to listen to the Church and conform myself to Christ with God’s Grace!

[@archimandritegregory7730]

Fr. harry Pappas was pushing for women's ordination in the 90s while at St. Mary's in Minneapolis. Not surprised he is into this mess as well.

[@archimandritegregory7730]

The one great difference is that we are composed of multiple jurisdictions who held together by a common faith. If some quarters go woke then the others will stop communing with those who are on their way out.

[@archimandritegregory7730]

The current bergolian s apostacy affirms sinner in their sins.

[@d.aletadrawdy7584]

I would like to know if the Orthodox priest who is advocating the woke agenda is in good standing with the Church.❣️🙏 He speaks apostasy.😢

[@tomjull1106]

The 1st ecumenical council in Jerusalem had only 4 laws for the gentiles. Of those, only 1 is highly relevant in modern society: no fornication. Anyone who asserts that sodomy is not included in fornication, is nothing less than deluded.

[@alexandervb8860]

+!

[@georgesbackyardgym]

I'm Jesus would have sent them on there way and sin no more.

[@OvidiuCotrus-yz1ih]

The Catholic Church is not a church anymore

[@PhilAlumb]

Joseph, you interrupt and even attempt to talk over your guests. It's not professional and it's tiresome. You cut off your guest here numerous times and often you were talking more than him.

[@MexAm120902]

Agree. You have good things to say, but please allow your guests to speak.